CRYSTAL THROUGH-THE-LENS COMPARISON: Local Dimming On vs Off - Which Light Version To Buy?

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The Pimax Crystal Light is upon us! Now unfortunately you have to make one big decision: go for the version without local dimming for $699 or shell out at least $799 for the headset with local dimming. In this video I am giving you a through-the-lens comparison between local dimming turned ON and OFF in the Pimax Crystal.
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@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
Order Pimax Crystal Now: pimax.com/pages/crystal-light?ref=mrtv (Affiliate) Which version are you going to get?
@juanfran3924
@juanfran3924 Ай бұрын
A lot of the stars in those scenes just disappear with local dimming on. The picture at 4:30 pretty much loses all the stars. I have a monitor with 1196 dimming zones and it's not this aggressive. I think they do this to avoid the blooming effect issues that comes with local dimming. Oled is better for this, although you can get black smear, motion blur, burn ins, less brightness and other effects with oled.
@Sofian375
@Sofian375 Ай бұрын
Looks more like global dimming to me...
@ingloriousvr6538
@ingloriousvr6538 Ай бұрын
Local dimming with 2 zones
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
In the nie complex scenes yes. But if you have put black areas and highlights within that, you can tell it works.
@ingloriousvr6538
@ingloriousvr6538 Ай бұрын
Need Oled panels
@quantumsoftware1424
@quantumsoftware1424 Ай бұрын
Once he got his hand on pimax light pro micro oled. He will say, wow, no brainer, go for it LOL.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 Ай бұрын
OLED can suffer both mura and persistence issues (both issues seen on the psvr2). meanwhile on micro oled panels lose 60% more light than lcd because they need a polarizing filter. OLED is amazing in thoery, but when even the vision pro suffers issues (bad persistance, low brightness, high cost) I can see why many still choose lcd
@HypHipHop
@HypHipHop Ай бұрын
I heard that they wanna remove the screw which allows you to change the lens. While i totally understand the removal of track eye,battery ..and all that stuff, i disagree with the removal of screw. Maybe you can mention something about this on you next video about Crystal Light .Great review !
@kristaps2010
@kristaps2010 Ай бұрын
200$ is the difference local dimming or not. The difference is not that massive and also noticeable loss of detail appear with extreme LD. If you put these $200 towards a better GPU the difference in gaming would be way more noticeable than local dimming option. I'm lucky I can earn money so I chose local dimming version. I hope in P.Crystal Light there will be option to reduce LD from extreme to balanced. Another point towards Local Dimming is watching movies in VR, I would recommend it then.
@pondracek
@pondracek Ай бұрын
If you don't want controllers (I don't; roomscale is wireless or die) it's only a $100 difference. Wish there was a $100 cheaper option without dimming or controllers.
@CrispyCrusader117
@CrispyCrusader117 Ай бұрын
this is very nice comparison and seeing space looks great, does he different modes of Local Dimming have anything like movement effects at say extreme vs balanced or off? Or is it just purely screen brightness in scenes and no performance based issues at all. Thank you for this video as it helps a lot
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
Local dimming has no substantial performance effects.
@technikchegger7228
@technikchegger7228 Ай бұрын
A great video and good work.
@lukaszb3651
@lukaszb3651 Ай бұрын
Great comparison. How would you compare the level of blacks on your Pimax Cristal with LD Off and Meta 3? Which one offer better blacks in your opinion?
@robertpetrie2536
@robertpetrie2536 Ай бұрын
Great video! The VR community appreciates you and all of your comparisons! I wonder if you could compare the AVP vs the pimax crystal's local dimming?
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
The AVP is OLED and therefore much better with real blacks!
@PixelShade
@PixelShade Ай бұрын
Awesome video mate! I'm still holding on to my G2, but from what I can tell I will just wait for an attractive headset with micro OLED displays... What I like about the G2 was the image quality, price and the incredible built-in audio system. Sure, the controllers are pretty basic but I still appreciate their support for AA batteries. I know I lot of people would consider it an inconvenience, but personally I love it.. I use rechargeable batteries and they last for so long, battery life isn't even a problem. I can easily replace them once they get depleted, and when battery cells go bad, I can easily replace them (which isn't normally the case for highly integrated Li-ion devices). HP Reverb just felt like a nice, complete, AND future proof headset (Which was one of my primary purchasing goals). Until Microsoft decided to ditch WMR!👿Currently I dualboot into Windows 10 just for VR (and use Linux for everything else). Hopefully Valve and the open source community will help resurrecting WMR headsets with compatibility through OpenXR and SteamVR. One can only hope.
@icekuba
@icekuba Ай бұрын
Can you compare vision Pimax Crystal( local dimming off) vs Pico 4? I am wondering is Pimex has better contrast like VA (QLED) vs IPS paneles in TV
@FalconLX911
@FalconLX911 Ай бұрын
I hope you are getting the local dimming version and can provide the same on off videos when you receive your review unit
@EndersVRcade
@EndersVRcade Ай бұрын
Great footage! I think the Half Life Alyx example with the computer room raised a good point. It is going to be harder to see in dark environments but that you can choose what level of local dimming you want- and in real time from the Pimax software without having to restart anything.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
My experience with it was put it on highlights mode and leave it. Worked well in all conditions, bright or dark. Whereas extreme mode I think is mostly for showing off how dark it can get. I didn't find it actually usable in most scenes, dark or light.
@word2RG
@word2RG Ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@FalconLX911
@FalconLX911 Ай бұрын
I preordered the local dimming but I am waiting on your review
@curtisspain8631
@curtisspain8631 Ай бұрын
What I would like to know is, how is aircraft spotting in combat situations like great battles?
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 Ай бұрын
Well still deciding on which one I would possibly get. Want to see more video reviews with an actual Crystal Lite and with the lenses that they come with those units. It is nice that they have a Balanced setting for the Local Dimming feature. Seems full Local dimming even with full night scenes drop out allot of the detail. Is there any fine adjustments we can do with Local Dimming, or is it only just those 3 settings - None, Balanced, Full? So, it is still a wait and see final released Crystal lite products. I never buy anything on Day One because I buy devices to use, not to review and set on the shelf. Anyway, thanks for the video and take care.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
You can also set the local dimming more granular with a setting file!
@icekuba
@icekuba Ай бұрын
Thanks 👏
@lolokikou5521
@lolokikou5521 Ай бұрын
what about the blooming (light bleeding) on crystal light ? i heard rumors blooming can be very bad on crystal headset local dimming.
@REZZA2020
@REZZA2020 Ай бұрын
True Blacks were a key strength of the HTC VIVE PRO's AMOLED panels. Great to see first efforts at Local Dimming. Hope Varjo consider this in next model of the AERO!
@johnmann7o2
@johnmann7o2 Ай бұрын
What brightness was the non Local dimming? Can you compare 25%, 50%, 100%?
@Cofaciano
@Cofaciano Ай бұрын
MRTV, how about the bloom effect that others that have the crystal mention when using local dimming? The extreme option has the worse bloom of all. Others say it can be fixed by altering the file profile.json, in the pimax runtime configuration. Have you tried that? Are you using that configuration on your videos? Thanks
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
I am not using that configuration in this video. Everything that you see here is vanilla.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
It blooms badly if set to extreme. But I found just one level down it wasn't a problem anymore. No manually changing a file needed. I think people were changing this file manually before there were proper configuration options for it, and a bunch of them are just continuing to modify the file instead.
@matinprsd
@matinprsd Ай бұрын
Honestly it looks not so "Local" and more like "Global Dimming" in cases of dark scenes
@tomtomkowski7653
@tomtomkowski7653 26 күн бұрын
VR headsets that usually don't display static images should use OLEDs. OLEDs have downsides like general brightness and local dimming would be superior but screens need a couple of thousands of them and not a couple of hundred to work well.
@FunLion
@FunLion Ай бұрын
Ok, now I'm definitely waiting for reviews. The local dimming looks bugged, doesn't it? All I'm seeing is a darker image with destroyed highlights, at least in dark scenes.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
I also think that in Extreme setting the local dimming is just EXTREME and kills details as mentioned in the video. But there is also balanced mode.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
I found the extreme mode pretty useless in actual use. I think it's there to show off how dark it can get in select scenes. Highlights or balanced modes actually work in a practical sense for both light and dark scenes. I actually wish this video had focused on extreme mode less and instead focused on one of the actually usable modes.
@Eskoxo
@Eskoxo Ай бұрын
bro the amount of pimax videos you make mind as well rebrand to MRPImax at this point lol
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
I'd make just as many videos about other brands headsets when they excite me! And that's an exciting one that people want to know more about!
@CHROME-COLOSSUS
@CHROME-COLOSSUS Ай бұрын
Epic intro. Wtf
@angrybeaver6667
@angrybeaver6667 Ай бұрын
I'm torn because I want the base $699 version to save money but if the controllers aren't very good I will need to get the lighthouse faceplate for $200 which makes it end up being $899 with no local dimming and 2 useless controllers laying around. But if I go for the $899 with lighthouse faceplate I can not sell my index controllers and base stations.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
Index controllers are still better than inside-out tracked controllers. Especially on Pimax. If you're playing action games and especially FPS games, go with the Index controllers. Much of the Pimax customer base are flight simmers who barely need controllers at all, so inside-out tracked controllers are highly favored by them mostly because they're cheap and easy.
@poolhallshark
@poolhallshark Ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@batterynerd8779
@batterynerd8779 10 күн бұрын
Better than nothing for sure. Still OLED is winner in VR headsets.
@MrBreakthompson
@MrBreakthompson 5 күн бұрын
Local dimming just darkens the image. Not worth it, it seems.
@weirdgiven
@weirdgiven Ай бұрын
I decided to cancel the pre-order after I watched this video. The local dimming looks terrible.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын
Actually it is not terrible. You can set it to different levels and make it your own. But glad I could help you make a more educated decision.
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