CSGO hysteria & forgotten TF2 design

Cosmetic items and visual consistency.
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[@paradoxinraindrops141]

1:32 _"The goal wasn’t to put users in a position where they were gambling; it was put them in a position where they had random chances."_ So... gambling?

[@paradoxinraindrops141]

@Anne Isopod True but sometimes it's just baffling the mental gymnastics they try and pull, you know? Like that EA statement on lootboxes being "surprise mechanics."

[@ThePepe969]

@@handlethesenutz Slot machines is 100% random, and you can't improve your chances playing with them, so are you telling me it's not gambling too? That makes no sense. The definition of gambling : "Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the primary intent of winning money or material goods". Skins may be virtual goods, but that's exactly what gambling is.

[@jynxed66six54]

@@ThePepe969 so by definition, its not gambling then. you do not earn money or material goods. the part you are contesting is the fact that its "an event with an uncertain outcome". by choosing to make this necessary, you automatically ensure that you are wrong unless every part of that definition is met. which is isnt. so its not gambling by the logic you use

[@ThePepe969]

@@jynxed66six54 or maybe the definition was made before any "virtual goods" existed, you dont need to be some type of genius to understand how this is just like gambling in a casino on a slot machine, its even worse because you spend money in hope to get VIRTUAL stuff

[@jynxed66six54]

@@ThePepe969 im not making any arguments, i just cant stand watching people claim something while going against that very same claim in the process

[@Rohtix]

"None of it was really yours."

[@Rohtix]

@reciprocating social lobotomy There are more like us, friend. Let my existence be a reminder to you 😉

[@Scaramouche122]

@@Rohtix dude

[@nutsuloid1887]

All of the money you threw away was.

[@eliegbert8121]

@@Rohtix dude your KZbin account is 11 years old. Respect.

[@nativechatter999]

"You got all heated up about it for a while."

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

"It's not gambling, it's random chances, there's a fundamental difference" Gambling is literally that.

[@gachigasm3210]

Valve are lucky they said it pretty early, if they said it nowadays internet would shit on them just like they shat on that EA lady that said gambling is "surprise mechanics"

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

@@gachigasm3210 lol. Surprise mechanics :'D

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

@@fake11end I wonder what the legal definition of gambling is and how in the world it doesn't apply to the crates lol :')

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

@@fake11end oh, I see. It starts to make sense, thanks

[@nieildilsonsouza4747]

"It's not gambling, it's random chances, there's a fundamental difference" Gambling is literally that. this is a reminder-post

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

The best sensation in TF2 is seeing a default character dude destroying the server

[@PvZPlaying]

but what if he isn't cheating. people call him a cheater anyway, because if you don't have any cosmetics, you are being called a bot.

[@artyom1792]

@@PvZPlaying it doesn’t fucking matter anymore lmao. I’ve seen so many people with expensive Halloween-exclusive 500$+ unusual hats and unusual weapons, Australiums, etc. that blatantly use ESP/aimbot. Most of them don’t bother replying to you when you say it. Some of them don’t even try to deny it. VAC is just a joke now

[@OYXOT]

@@artyom1792 reminds me of a time when I just joined a casual server and got immediately kicked because some fuck head on the mic said I was a bot. Literally just finished picking a class moved 2 feet looked around casually in confusion because no one was around when I was accused and then boom back to tile screen 😪

[@MMMercia]

Default Character Dude, the 9th class of Team Fortress 2

[@bishdish2445]

Not true.

[@satanisacomputer4215]

"How long did you have to walk down that road before you see where it leads" Damn

[@VITAS874]

for a very long , someone is lucky to see, someone no

[@NubSwitch]

Depends on how much you really wanna see.

[@VITAS874]

people need to change in better side

[@floydpinkerton7090]

Remember, this is the company that once made Half-Life.

[@sexhaie]

+Floyd Pinkerton from a time when Steam wasn't the virtual Wal-mart....

[@John190assman]

+Floyd Pinkerton And then they made Half-Life 2 the bad sequel to a great game.

[@MNanme1z4xs]

+Floyd Pinkerton RIP 1/2Life

[@私の名前を翻訳しないでください]

What was wrong with Half Life 2

[@John190assman]

Bob The Smoker Its a great game but its not a great sequel that Half life 1 deserves. It features redcon characters, boring guns compared to hl1, story that doesnt tie with hl1 and also a bit of fanservice for hl1 fans. Overall it doesnt deserve the title game of 2004. And thats it there are more problems with it but I wanted to tell you the BIG problems and thats pretty much it.

[@DickButtox]

Remember when you made your own spray. That was a good time.

[@brandonle-torres854]

Yeah, now you have to pay for them

[@tomasjakubec9104]

Yeah, I member

[@hquwhjher]

I remember someone spraying a waifu on the sewers in 2fort. And let me tell you, that sewer become the Spy's nest, due to amount of backstab in that area. So, those days have passed now, is it? The day when a guy could spray a picture of tits, and basically destroy the team?

[@SonicChaocc]

Eventually, TF2 will get the same treatment. (CS:GO first had weapon skins, then eventually TF2 got weapon skins) Eventually, you'd have to pay 9.99 to play a different class in TF2. (Scout would be free. Other classes would cost 9.99 dollars, or 39.99 as a package and get one free hat that costs 4.99) And its only temporally, after a month you'd need to buy the class again (Following Nixons micro-transaction scheme) Then, in order to actually each classes secondary and melee weapon slots, they'd need to pay 4.99 each (More slots, the more you pay). The TF2 in 2020 will not be the same compared to TF2 2007. Good times.

[@WiigWiig]

Imagine if one day Valve makes it so you actually have to pay $20 to play TF2. The greedy fucking bastards! Oh, wait...

[@PlanetarySponge91]

You’re a genius gaming journalist that hasn’t said a single word. You understand the lunacy that exist in the gaming market, and show it in such a way that says nothing but everything at the same time. Never stop what you’re doing.

[@EnZo1rst]

He finally stopped and left for god knows how long

[@holobolo1661]

@@EnZo1rst I really hope he comes back with a Cyberpunk video.

[@buzzhonky]

@@holobolo1661 well, well, well...

[@destheoren]

im from the future, he's back

[@Ojthemighty]

Just presents the truth. The truth needs no altering

[@Fl0yd-]

This dude roasted the entire csgo player-base under just 6 mins

[@PeterTeal77]

Dude screw csgo, he roasted all consumerism and materialism.

[@mewsterx3679]

@Brian Treves hell yeah it does.

[@martinbbela4378]

And didnt say a single wore

[@ICantSplel]

@@martinbbela4378 You had one job.

[@noir1362]

@@ICantSplel lol

[@KLON_TV]

"Skins give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

[@TheItalianFun]

You're pretty good.

[@KLON_TV]

@@TheItalianFun *What took you so long* to comment here?

[@andreacaneva2445]

@@KLON_TV Kept you waiting, huh?

[@KLON_TV]

True

[@JBrander]

@@KLON_TV "Twelve shots.....this time I've got *_twelve_* shots"

[@MultiTerminator85]

"...Then what?" This was deeper than I expected it to be.

[@user-qx7tm5df8j]

my fat ass mom fucking stomps so fucking loud that i can hear it upstairs in my room:

[@FatalTaco]

Then you'll live your life knowing that you've wasted thousands of dollars... betting.... on virtual items that barely do anything other than being considered rare in a niche society

[@somedecidueye7292]

Fatal_Taco That's one hell of a quote.

[@stevo2862]

How far do you have to walk down that road...before you see where it leads?

[@itslooez7513]

CptBurn1 I know saying when someone's gets so excited ...they die

[@hellfeesh]

Came back after CS2 just made 40 million dollars for the first 40 minutes of case opening

[@tayloryeates9484]

Asmongold reaction brought me here

[@maxemore]

Counter-strike has gone from "wow this new muzzleflash effect from gamebanana looks really fancy" to "Remember the days when you could choose your player model when spawning"

[@lajenehuen260]

I mean, there are skins now in csgo

[@treetoon_]

fpsbanana!

[@C..J]

now you can choose your player model with money!

[@francopaz8185]

@@lajenehuen260 if you pay and play like a bitch. And they give you advantage in some maps.

[@ShadowBaofu]

I'm old enough to remember modding in coke cans for grenades in old school CS.

[@baronungern7034]

this is dark af

[@Lukespellwalker]

Didn't think a video on csgo and tf2 crates would be so fucking dark

[@bigdukethestank]

Baron Ungern it's so dank

[@bobdylanlovr69]

Tortilla door it should

[@ramendiety5873]

Now it makes me think that I should stop wasting money on keys...

[@jeremylim2421]

That last 30 seconds got you thinkin?

[@soulhunter91]

reminds me of what Revolver Ocelot said "engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

[@kiduke1337]

soulhunter91 That's a big boss quote, homie

[@GJ-qt2kk]

Kiduke It's both. Big Boss said it first but Ocelot passes this on to diamond dogs trainees.

[@novikovPrinciple]

Bongor Big And after Ocelot passes it on, Big Boss looks at him funny.

[@Skerp129]

naked snake*

[@eliteslayer145]

Grandfather_Paradox yes "big boss" gave him the look. Because there is only one big boss amiright?

[@LateNightHalo]

This is basically every game now. Nothing has an “art style” anymore... it’s just a mess of neon rainbows, brand tie-ins and silly hats. You can get a “world war 2 game” nowadays and the in-game art style is the end battle from Ready Player One

[@d1d4ct85]

War thunder would like to argue

[@CB-zq1ky]

Well said sir! Well said!

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824]

@@d1d4ct85 War thunder is ww2 to cold war era or to todays time

[@d1d4ct85]

@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824 and op said world war 2 game, mate getting from ww2 to cold war easily takes around a year. So basically its jjst repetition ww2 simulator

[@gabitobito]

Uhh no

[@DanLekin]

The most unique skins are the standard skins, as nobody plays with them.

[@wulwul5067]

Dan Lekin not really

[@awesomedonut8228]

Dan Lekin I do cuz I’m broke af.

[@_Maroi]

I've been in a match of csgo before and 3 people asked me what my skin was since I re named it. It was the evil daimyo skin and no one knew what it was. They didn't believe that it was a 10 cent skin since it looked good.

[@caidee]

@@_Maroi stfu lier,evil daimyo is more than 10 cents

[@YaMamasAss]

@@caidee Oof, *that's* what you get triggered at?

[@Crayator]

A really eye-opening video that actually made me think about my in game spending. Although I'm not a big purchaser of gaming skins, I have in the past and now I've really started to regret it.

[@WorldWendell]

Very, Coming from a guy that had 3000+ in CS im glad I cashed out

[@WorldWendell]

LSD You seem like an EXTREMELY narrow minded individual that makes blatant assumptions. I only put about 50$ into counter strike and the 2950$ rest of it was from making profit and trading up and grinding shit for the next 6 months. But it was all in fun and I sold the skins and got a kickass laptop from them... Yeah... I got something REAL from virtual items that I had fun trading and collecting. So maybe next time you are going to make an assumption about something you have NO FUCKING IDEA about, you should to some research... Have a good day.

[@LSD_93]

O v e r T i m e What's more retarded: spending 3k on le epic virtual items, or spending hours literally "grinding" towards them, then getting offended when someone takes the piss? Both. They're both wrong.

[@WorldWendell]

LSD People can spend there money and time on whatever they want. Your opinion towards something doesn't make it "retarded"

[@haloblackops117]

Lol, the difference between spending 3k and what you call "grinding". Spending 3k is spending 3k and you get nothing but pixels. Grinding makes you money,. REAL LIFE money, that you can spend. And no, you don't sit for hours on end non stop quit your job trading, you just arrange some trades, do some shit, check upo on your trade offers every once and a while. You can still have a life and be a csgo trader. It's like a hobby. Not even that, like a part time job. You work, you get paid. You so fucking narrow minded you missed the analogy? You think that people who pick up trash or unclog sewers are retarded because they are getting paid for work? Or are you so fucking rich the concept of a hard days work doesn't compute? Work is work, money is money. A little extra on the side is always nice.

[@aegisfate117]

one of the only real channels out there. crowbcat never die

[@aegisfate117]

SKINSANITY

[@GraveGround]

oh wow, just saw this video, subbed and saw his frontpage, ive watched all his other stuff, awesome channel indeed :D

[@vman339]

It's hard to be fake when none of your content is yours. This isn't an insult, it's actually probably his most clever element. He takes other people's quotes, videos and content and places it in well edited format with some music to set the tone and lets you piece things together. Proof you don't need to be a shithead mouthpiece to communicate and be popular in the current climate.

[@SANDVlCH]

The fact he refuses to narrate is perhaps his greatest asset - the viewer is presented clear and concise pieces of evidence that imply an argument, structured in a logical way to enable the viewer to draw their own conclusions. Almost documentaries, these videos are.

[@dugesn0591]

+vman339 holy shit🔥🔥

[@Childish360]

The same is going on in the COD community right now, i remember buying a skin for 1€ in 2013 now they are asking kids to buy a 50€ battlepass every few weeks or so....

[@steamwallet52]

wow childish love your cod content bro

[@Orbit-line]

Yeah even in mobile game. Battle pass is quite popular feature to all of the game (my opinion).

[@thatoneantoid51]

Can't you earn some cod points in the free battle pass and eventually buy the battle pass without technically paying anything?

[@Orbit-line]

@@thatoneantoid51 well I think there is cod point in free pass but it need effort to put in

[@MotoMadness567]

@@Orbit-line Dude, CoD Mobile is literally asking for money. Everything in the store costs money. Just for a rare weapon skin that is the color gray, like 5 dollars

[@Skurk_]

This actually is depressing as fuck, I needed this thank you

[@savandquit7897]

Skin Insanity

[@funkymonk255]

SavAndQuit Skinsanity

[@ok-se9jf]

now regret putting all my summer money into csgo and i pat like 95% of my money

[@gabrielarchange4680]

@@ok-se9jf lol i was about to comment ''that's not soooo bad'' then i read your comment.

[@giahuynguyenkim6389]

Hey at least I never purchase anything anyway

[@mache4748]

Ok, seriously what a great video. It presents an argument without a single bit of narration or text from the video creator, just videos and audio stitched together that still has a clear purpose. This is some very, very impressive editing.

[@aidysfan]

Ikr, I don't know who crowbcat is or what he looks like, but I feel like I know him. His videos have more personality than most youtubers that do nothing but scream in front of a camera. Just goes to show the power of editing.

[@TheBrownieSundownHD]

@@aidysfan His videos are entirely what the popular opinion is at the moment. Notice he has tons of low-view videos where he tried to be a KZbin before realizing that the lowest effort possible can gain a massive following.

[@aidysfan]

@@TheBrownieSundownHD I get your point. Yes, his videos are straight forward, and they stay pretty safe, including this one, but I enjoy them a lot more than someone like H3H3, who just sits in front of a camera and makes coughing noises while screaming "THEYRE LITERALLY TEACHING CHILDREN TO GAMBLE FUCK VALVE! GAMERS RISE UP!" Maybe it's just because I've gotten more cynical and I find most youtube personalities insufferable, but Crowbcat manages to keep me entertained without even speaking a word, it's just simple editing. And his videos aren't super "meme-y" too. There's more talent here than even someone like Pewdiepie, but that's just my opinion.

[@PaldBenis]

I mean yeah it's pretty good but I wouldn't dickride it too hard lol

[@justanotherperson7774]

"Don't tell it just show it"

[@prodf]

That ending was right in the feels, thank you Crowbcat

[@qwemlhjsi4386]

This video made me cry

[@KoeSeer]

adding to the last speech: And a year later, none of those are worth something anymore. What was once seems like golden rare stuff, it seems like pixels painted over a 3d model

[@bigmac5051]

Fanático whats the sauce on the ending? if its a movie i gotta see it

[@vanargrand3199]

me too. i need the source

[@bigmac5051]

ChuckFinley357 nvm dude check the description its not a movie

[@johnclement189]

CrowBat : your just buying virtual items and wasting money. CSGO players : NOOOOOO YOU ARE WRONG! CrowBat : your just buying virtual items and wasting money. TF2 Players : I know.

[@syn-theo6749]

As someone who owns an Unusual. I have to agree. But I got mine during the Crate Depression, then sold it and bought items that I actually wanted. Barely put money into the game after that

[@johnclement189]

@@syn-theo6749 the crate/unusual depression time was a curse and a blessing for some

[@577niccy]

i got 500 hours on csgo and a mecha industries collection that im proud of flame away kiddies you're told to dislike crates prove me wrong

[@n3bloons23]

@@577niccy waste of time and money my g

[@nuulcoolpro]

"haha tf2 players are cha..." Shut up :)

[@jamaalshad1018]

I don't think people are getting that this also applies to life. Not just video games.

[@mooganify]

Jamaal Shad The final speech especially.

[@SeniorAdrian]

Its more pathetic to buy a skin that its virtual than to buy something like clothes which at least exists in the physical dimension and they are practical.

[@raven75257]

@Ivan Maldonado buy cs go - get expensive skin. Sell it. Buy good game

[@raven75257]

@Ivan Maldonado You still had to buy it if you want inventory access

[@ncrranger6327]

Exactly. It has a "creepy" feeling to it because it's more than Valve and CS:GO. Way more.

[@captinbuggie]

4:33 This is the one part of the video that keeps me up at night sometimes, it's just incredibly haunting because it's real, it's not a what if, it's not a small statistic, this is constantly happening in real time.

[@Prinz_Kasper]

Anybody know where that audio clip comes from?

[@saltysoysauce954]

@@Prinz_Kasper John Ortberg - What Matters. I have found several clips of him telling this story but I don't know which one CrowbCat used

[@saulgonzalez1645]

Keeps you up at night? Haunting? Lol wtf are you on?

[@gladio4336]

Prinz Kasper I guess it was from Zeitgeist

[@JohnSmith-yy2uj]

@@saulgonzalez1645 lmao

[@nurduwek7768]

"and the thrill wears off... And it will wear off" goosebumps man

[@TedFausak]

Nur Duwek read the book Ecclesiastes in the Bible for more

[@IgorMacIgor]

This guy doesn't even say a word, yet his content covers the gaming industry better than any game journalists.

[@solspade]

Something about this video was legitimately creepy. Maybe its the music, or the disturbing insight into human nature, idk but it gave me chills.

[@GothicThought21]

SpadeSol it gives you chills because you're seeing the dark truth of society.

[@praveensharma9893]

Disturbing insight? It's just people wasting money, not publicly talking about their deepest fantasies...

[@negative6442]

SpadeSol I think what got me was the fact that these reactions are the exact same as those of people who win jackpots at a casino. And all for what? A few pretty pixels on a cheap game?

[@PaisleyBiscuit]

It's the music. Not the dark society, not disturbing insight, but the music. Calm down

[@negative6442]

Dorian Hill The music isn't even creepy. Calm down

[@WrenchNinja]

remember when valve made video games and not glorified slot machines

[@HAZARDOUS88]

Valve doesn't

[@memopamp]

WrenchNinja Among all the games they own, there is not more than 5 "Original Valve" titles. They bought Counter-Strike, they bought Team Fortress, they bought DotA...

[@VoxelPie]

I member.

[@gvngm9ne672]

We ate too much member berries XD

[@Eox3]

It's like Konami and pachinko machines

[@Skelatalmaniak]

This video is genuinely terrifying holy shit.

[@Cavs191]

CH33K1BR33K1 and now ea is being sued for letting minors gamble. This has been ten years in the making.

[@ianchristofer5412]

Nice name lol

[@ncrranger6327]

Just like Eatmyass said, it gets scary because you know there's more to it than you see.

[@tommyblade8093]

@@Cavs191 oof 2 years ago

[@Dusthandle999]

The video is reading your soul

[@JD-xo4le]

I am convinced that the 4:50 black screen is meant for you too look at your reflection while you listen to John Ortberg's question. Amazingly chilling...

[@CoolSs]

Name of the video?

[@etherr6461]

holy shit, thats probably true

[@NoobwithaBaseballBat]

I look ugly

[@TylerMcVicker1]

Dang dude, awesome video.

[@lottagall_1423]

+Valve News Network You should make some videos like this mate!

[@John190assman]

+f0rt1ss1m0 _ I think its not even worth making.

[@nickkolasg]

hi

[@ps3pic255]

Eyy VNN!

[@tf2portello]

Dang sure brah

[@crossroads2361]

So classic knife just released in Csgo.. it’s already valued at over 100 dollars. I assume it could reach in the thousands. That knife was literally free just one game earlier. Wtf valve

[@aj6690]

Really? I heard the classic knife got released, but 100 fucking dollars for a re skin from older CS games? It fucking proves that will monetize anything just to reach the wallet of the consumer.

[@jerry3306]

@@meduck18 "doesnt do anything good" like every other skin lmao

[@PartyCrasher04]

Yeah, because they fucking made it to get profit.

[@forte609]

@@D00000T it is just the demand making the prices insane. The value of these items would be lost once Valve issue more of these items

[@mewsterx3679]

@@jerry3306 it proves the kids are to used to seeing skins on their guns lmao. Dude like the regular skins the guns come with is good enough!

[@oimrqs1691]

One of the best channels on KZbin.

[@charanko2971]

I's Agree👍

[@45calibre5]

+Henrique Almeida agreed i get excited everytime i see a vid from crowbcat

[@every_username_is_taken]

+Henrique Almeida "One of"? When it comes to games, I can't think of a single channel that beats CrowbCat.

[@uvlight33]

Absolutely!

[@stadusunids]

+Henrique Almeida O cara usa de quase ZERO de edição, não comenta, não coloca vinheta, mesmo assim consegue atravessar seu ponto com clareza imbatível. Realmente um dos melhores, se não o melhor.

[@xtlm]

This is going to be applied to NFT's and even more wild stuff in the coming future. Skins were the baby step.

[@burntpoptart853]

It’s hilarious to see people bash people for buying pixels despite the fact that the same people have bought pixels before.

[@BudokaiMan-mr9tw]

Thank God nft's are dying faster then may flies.

[@OperatorMax1993]

I know right ? Gaming is dying, but i really hope NFTs will just die

[@roxinim6479]

NFTs and cs go skins are the same

[@OperatorMax1993]

@@roxinim6479 pretty much

[@wckiid]

that last part is completely true

[@thatscuteasheck]

ye, he has a good point.

[@brandonferguson8021]

i need a link to this lol

[@luksgar97]

Zeitgeist - What matters?

[@xehP]

the whole video is true.

[@alucardha9659]

John Ortberg "It All Goes Back In The Box" hes a christian

[@Cettywise]

I'm starting to think this guy is a prophet

[@seaofthievser]

Starting?

[@umanasilos2311]

+Mark Schoner the truth...

[@brettkeaneaudiounscamblers4962]

Think?

[@anguswilson1724]

Cettywise, is he a prophet, or does he put things into the public conscious

[@ryancrist9565]

Cettywise, they say he is the darkness that has coalesced from all the putrid shit that the video game industry has plopped all over the world. The spite and malace of this industry reached a breaking point and all the hatred, sorrow and regret radiating from us, the consumers, has created a beautiful demon called Crowbcat.

[@HankWank]

Seriously, you're brilliant. Your videos inspire me.

[@jofall91]

HankWank 🙌🏻bless your soul for using your and you're in the right way

[@sarsona_3611]

jofall91 Yeah, they're should be more people who use the correct vocabulary !

[@tiberiustheweaponsmaster4621]

People keep commenting that this video is "dark" or depressing in some way, but haven't articulated why. I believe because what you're looking at is addiction and a very explicit example of dopamine-exploitation being done to people through something as "innocuous" as videogames. These people are having a very fundamental aspect of their psychology being hijacked to a point were they are slaves to the wills of random chance because the brain is being maladaptive in this case. It's sad, it's not what games should be and never should have been.

[@grease_monkey6078]

Nailed it with "dopamine exploitation" it's disgusting they manipulate players and all for self gratification, will they be able to get that money back? No , will they have a phyisical version of the purchase? no. So why do it? because they are addicted.

[@ha9phtfpaehs]

"b-but muh bideogames can do no wrong because only karens think that!"

[@niga3]

@@ha9phtfpaehs gaming

[@avatardepagan]

That "dopamine-exploitation" is the same that people who like gambling have

[@rh_BOSS]

In 20-30 years people will look back on these practices with the same disdain we look at cigarette commercials in old cartoons.

[@am2350]

That ending line... "none of it was really yours." That gave me chills

[@sulphurous2656]

Being an active trader for several years and having made many regretful late night decisions along the way for reasons unknown, it is especially sobering.

[@vhozonian]

It stings even worse when you realize Steam's terms and services makes it very clear that everything you buy there is really not yours and if they happen to dissapear, they will take everything from you without refunds.

[@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff]

HECKING CHILLS BROOO

[@yakivpopavich]

@@vhozonian And they can choose to close your account at any time. Don't use an edgy avatar or user name. Could lose your entire game library. After all, it's not really yours.

[@vhozonian]

@@yakivpopavich That too, thankfully, I no longer have Steam.

[@milesdean8802]

I like cosmetics in games, and I like personalizing characters and whatever, but this is straight madness.

[@feliciaf8]

pure consumerism

[@Orbit-line]

Same

[@fort809]

@jbt jbg the house never loses, that’s how gambling works

[@gortalla5474]

@jbt jbg the entire point of gambling is that the house never loses lmao

[@gortalla5474]

@jbt jbg I agree, but in casiono gambling the house always wins in the end because they are a business, which as my point. I agree with what you say about valve always winning though.

[@princealivision]

You don't play the game , the game plays with you

[@batachops]

Mr.Torgue/Altek deep

[@d4nielDayZContent]

That's so true. Why doesn't this have more likes?

[@VITAS874]

Nick bellick words you changed. You didn't change the game, the game changed you.

[@wellnotme9354]

Crowbcat, you are great at ruining things for me, and I don't say that in a bad way. This is the most effective way to get the truth out there, not using your words, but those who experienced it first-hand and supported it.

[@busterboy_22]

"I found this new website......."

[@cookieface80]

*founded

[@hivny8830]

*foundeded

[@winlover37]

Artur Mattern *foundst've

[@lonelystage6139]

enumoly

[@smugsona]

winlover37 founded'd's've't'll

[@x-rayofmyhand8875]

I still rewatch this, it still sends a chill to my spine because of how well the issue is addressed in the video and it comes in a clever way of storytelling and editing. And most of all, we learn something important from it.

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

did you really learn something? was all of this not already completely obvious?? i definitely agree with you, it's a great video. but it's just common knowledge being told in an amazing way. well, at least i thought all this knowledge was common...

[@PeterTeal77]

@@cheekybananaboy3361 Unfortunately some of us were raised by materialists who scorned any deeper meaning or purpose. But all love brother, not trying to reject your point about the self-evidence of the video.

[@everythingsgonnabealright8888]

​@@cheekybananaboy3361 If it was that common knowledge and sense - we wouldn't be having this problem in this industry, friend. Smart and vigilant sadly are outnumbered.

[@feliciaf8]

@@PeterTeal77 common sense nowadays is already gone

[@Luka2000_]

@@feliciaf8 sadly true

[@CameronfDrums]

“How far will you have to go down that road.... Before you see where it leads?” The tone and overall way the narrator says this is just absolutely terrifying, paired with the music too.

[@holobolo1661]

Would love to know the source of that and the other quote if anyone knows.

[@erikruder3360]

@@holobolo1661 in the description brother.

[@Mr_G87]

"The goal was not to put users in a position where they were gambling, it was to put them in a position where they had random chances, and there's a fundamental difference there." where difference ?

[@qinoga]

I had absolutely no idea weapon skins were such a big deal to people. This is really weird.

[@NolzadCS]

+qinoga Weapon skins worth real money?

[@thebrokencable156]

+Nolzad Nope

[@BBDSmint]

+alex vergara Yes you can. The skins in CSGO are bought and sold on the market. Once you buy them or open them from a case, you can sell them again. So if you decide to buy a certain skin, you can sell it again for real money. Or, if you're lucky, the skin has appreciated during the time you have it.

[@g1gabyt3]

+Nolzad Do weapon skins cost real money? Yes they do. Some of which exceed the price of $10k. Are they worth purchasing with real money? Of course not: you are not paying for the work of a texture creator, you are paying for the ability to overcome a random number generator. These skins are not art pieces, there's no historical or influential value behind them, but only artificially created demand in an environment that can provide an infinite supply of goods. The system is based entirely on scamming people.

[@HardstyleJinx]

+qinoga its even better when they taunt you for not having an expensive skin :^)

[@ampersandman757]

it's a game we play on ourselves

[@drifter402]

The downfall of Valve is entirely the fault of the users.

[@neilmarceau5980]

Engraving gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever

[@IR-Fan]

Neil Marceau you're pretty good...

[@eslaweedguygrey]

you idiot!

[@m33m63]

It doesn't. It was worse in the old games, because in those games you could actually make a custom spray of various character models and place them at common angles to bait out a shot. Now that all the sprays are forced to stay cartoony and the color of cotton candy, its just more aestheticc

[@SwagOfficerSuccubus]

Neil Marceau x

[@Juan_shot]

M33M metal gear....

[@mikestakeon]

This makes me so confused what to think about Valve. Maybe it's my own perception of them, but they seem to hold this rare, mystical status of being one of the last developers who are respectful to their orignal IPs - they waited 13 years to continue from HL2:Ep2 to ensure the technological advancement had progressed enough to meaningfully contribute to the experience. They haven't offloaded their other IPs like TF2 L4D or Portal for quick cash grab sequels. And yet here you have evidence of them almost single-handedly kicking off the absolute garbage that is the lootbox craze that pervades almost every online game nowadays, and absolutely shitting on their own design philosophy of early TF2, to the point where it's almost unrecognisable. TF2 in particular just really hurts, given how much effort they went into creating the whole world, the characters and all the animated shorts. It could've been a series that could've lasted for eternity. Now, some of the first connotations you have someone says TF2 is "hats; bots", NEGATIVE stuff.

[@wanderingwobb6300]

It's good that your eyes have been opened at least. So many people hold Valve in unbelievably high regard without even realizing that they're the company who started it all with lootboxes.

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

BUT THEY MADE HALF LIFE 2!!!!!! STFU MAN!!!!

[@Lyu-Phy]

Yeah Valve is heavily overlooked, but so are people. It's because people have severe cognitive dissonance or are outright braindead. People dont really prioritise, they just go with the flow. No offense, it's often better to dwell in sacred illusions, but it is what it is.

[@demoknight.]

"Surely you understand...it'll never be enough...

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

I’ve looked everywhere to try and find where that comes from, but no dice.

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

@@MichaelMcCallister097 i saw a comment saying "it's a sermon by a preacher called john ortberg" i hope that helps buddy

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

cheekybananaboy gross, you mean I have to listen to him talk about Jesus to hear that great speech? I only care about the anti-materialism part.

[@jtrev492]

@@MichaelMcCallister097 *tips fedora*

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

jtrev492 cheeky

[@FirstMetalHamster]

Still highly relevant.

[@michaelbiland5575]

People just need to stop supporting the stuff Valve is pulling in these games. I'm hoping Valve would just go back to pioneering new IPs and creating awesome story-focused experiences. Right now, Valve is doing extremely well financially, but rapidly degrading as a quality company.

[@mishka1569]

Valve isn't the only issue now, almost every triple a title has the exact same shit in them, even if they're $80+

[@marshmellow9281]

It only becomes more so as time passes, I'm afraid.

[@daedalus6433]

@CMN2K Not really, they developed ONE card game and it was generic trash.

[@daedalus6433]

@CMN2K They started and then stopped because they made an inept product with no appeal to anyone.

[@Meerzie]

honestly no joke, this vid changed my life. sold all my csgo skins

[@Meerzie]

update: £170 in steam wallet for summer sale, thanks crowbcat.

[@githreepi136]

Its not a retarded choice. It's the right decision to abandon the gambling system for oneself. Even if it may not be the immediate "right" economic choice. The choice sets the mindset for the future. You can still enjoy playing the game, no question, but the skingambling is a black hole

[@bourbon2605]

@@githreepi136 Im saying its a retarded choice cause he could've earn more money if he saved it.

[@akalineweb]

@@bourbon2605 Then again, pushing your luck is a 50/59

[@RampantWolf]

@@bourbon2605 found the hoarder.

[@lolschrauber]

Every aspect of it was gambling. -Random chance for an item -Items have a clear monetary value (steam market) -You can only safely cash out for steam wallet money - the house always wins.

[@OperatorGreg]

Truth is, the game was rigged from the start

[@romcaluag4087]

New Vegas!

[@crazydave9093]

Aint that a kick in the head

[@SandmanURL]

Buying hats almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@shart70]

*johnny guitar starts*

[@SrSacaninha]

ring a ding baby

[@connorforce01]

When your business hinges on how stupid people are, you know you're going to be a billionaire.

[@seabass425]

Connor Force *Apple

[@brianfigueroa1119]

lol

[@joshmoritty]

Man, that's a really good quote.

[@klinkersgas]

This reminds me of the guy who sold pet rocks

[@agris8859]

I just sold all of my hats....

[@agris8859]

P.S. Best decision ever. I rely fully on skill.

[@probablypublic1596]

I want to sell all of mine for paypal money but idk how

[@agris8859]

ProbablyPublic Look up how to do it through OPSkins.com, it's possible that way.

[@probablypublic1596]

snugs tf2 stuff too?

[@agris8859]

ProbablyPublic Yes. Look up tutorials.

[@Willwillows]

What are all these 'This video didn't age well' comments? If anything this video proves itself more accurate every day

[@vgamedude12]

Dumb soyboys who spent money on a png some intern spent 5 minutes making for free. People I never would've thought would get sucked into this nonsense I know have spent hundreds if not thousands on cs go skins

[@demonabis]

Imagine if this was a giant Skype Call

[@HoChiMints2007]

+demonabis RIP ears

[@bloodsuckern]

at least the guild accomplished something

[@Zeda02]

WHO USES SKYPE? DISCORD IS BETTER

[@demonabis]

I'm personally on Teamspeak and I think it's really good, I've tried Discord and used Skype a long time ago

[@zxcvbnmllk]

It's basically a gambling addiction

[@YourCRTube]

My thoughts exactly. Worst part is - it is purely the addiction part, because you can't really win, like in casino or lottery.

[@ubiquitous6072]

It is completely gambling by definition. You spent money for a chance to make money. Yes you can get real money for your skins. There is plenty of sites that will let you sell them for real money or just cash them all out. I used to have a knife a friend gave to me and I cashed it out for like $60 usd to my paypal haha.

[@pnutz_2]

it's like the sideshow at the carnival - you still pay several dollars/euros/rubles/shekels for a piece of garbage that's dug out of someone's bin, the only difference is you don't have to smell a carnie that's been sleeping in his clothes for the past year

[@champdude17]

+Ubiquitous The people who open loads of cases don't sell them, cause all they care about is the thrill of gambling. If they really cared about the item, they would just buy it for probably 10x cheaper than what they spent gambling to get it.

[@VITAS874]

True, Worse thing is govs do nothing with it, they with corruption and gambling.

[@RageJ]

this is crowbcat's most important video

[@EnigmaShadow03]

RageJ fucking truth

[@mehcaca]

Most of his other videos just give me a good laugh from seeing fuckups and mishaps from individual games/companies. But this one...legit gave me chills. This speaks to the state of humanity as a whole. Consumerism, gambling, and addiction combined in an unholy trinity. Only now made easier with the advent of the internet and gaming.

[@matheusribeiro8523]

I would say this is one of KZbin's most Important video!

[@micha3502]

yes, but children are still born :P

[@breakingbadreactions5282]

It's legit narcissism and addiction. Why i still play Source, better gameplay anyway. If you are that obsessed with looks just download personal texture modifications for your guns and alter your files. Sure only YOU see it but if you are that obsessed with yourself and your guns look in a game that EVERYONE needs to see it...-...man. There is some real issues with you.

[@Peanut_Arbuckle]

This is one of the most important videos on the internet. Look at how many games have taken up similar ways of selling cosmetics since TF2 and CSGO. Nothing has changed, they just found smarter ways to manipulate you.

[@VITAS874]

This should be shut down

[@PaulCPKZ]

Damn the music and the comparison to the Greek myth really made this video depressing

[@rbvilla90]

1° Gets a rare skin 2° Killed by a dude with normal skins 3° Rage and Toxic 4° Repeate What a time to be a gamer

[@lightningbolt4419]

*Repete

[@blabboo]

*erpaet

[@kianbidari8121]

958 people either work at valve or have shriveled up and died

[@endraegon744]

There haven’t been any dislikes in a month

[@tellemking4507]

Endraegon I have bad news from the future

[@chinois11]

why Valve's workers would not like this video ?

[@Loyal_Death]

958 and counting

[@FictualKyle]

That Dude on the Internet i jave badder news from the fitire

[@johnnyhun1]

I remember in CS: Source I could download any skin from modding websites and then use it in game without paying a damn tree-fiddy

[@nothsa615]

0:43 the dude at the bottom left started cutting his hair lmao

[@yigitbilgilii]

Cause he gets a absolutely useless pixel that dont effect anything.Just let himself waste all of his money and hair.He is not controling the game,the game controls him

[@jerry3306]

@@yigitbilgilii let him cash it out

[@TheRenegadist]

Kootra.

[@GameboySR]

It was part of a challenge where he would open 12 cases every day for the whole December, he didn't get any knives and this was on the last day of the challenge. So it was just a mixture of happiness and overreacting for the video.

[@mooganify]

Jeez

[@therruefalse9984]

If a person was locked up in a room with nothing but mirrors, he would either break them, or stare at his own beauty, both leading to his death. This was the best video of all time showing how pointless this is. What do you do with the skins? Stare at them. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pointless, and yet people actually spend time and money for them to stare at something.

[@GermanPeter]

Mate if you lock someone in a room he's going to die no matter what he does Also I have no idea why skins are apparently "pointless" because all they do is look nice. In that case, clothes are pointless too, just wear potato sacks. Or Video games are pointless, they just entertain you. Books are also just words. And paintings, don't forget paintings, they're worthless because they just look nice. Art? What is that?

[@AndroidSaga1]

+SuperCoolBadBoy watch it again yourself , he's not criticising the whole skin thing, he's criticising the whole gambling buisness behind it , something more present and akin to true gambling as time goes on on. I love skins in videogames, but gambling to get them? nah thanks.

[@X02Overdose]

GermanPeter Watch the video again dumbass

[@auntgroaker9039]

GermanPeter It's true that every recreational thing is useless if you choose to look at it like that, but the absurdity comes from these skins being especially useless. You're paying for a fucking texture. It's not fun like a game, not knowledge enhancing like a book, not something that you can show off like real clothes.

[@ReviewPimpUSA]

+GermanPeter the knives are virtual dumbfuck, the virtual knives don't help you in a job interview, the virtual knives don't help you look good in front of a woman Jesus christ ur a fucking loser

[@gregrothschilds8453]

I’ve came back to this video so many times just to see the final speech at the end. It’s such a powerful message and the realization just washes over you while your eyes widen about just how true it is. It’s so effective at making you realize that this is really a perspective on what gambling is and the sinister signs of what it does. That final quote at the end “how far will you go down that road, before you see where it leads” just sends a chill down my spine every time.

[@joaco4927]

Greg Rothschilds. Same. Do you know where the last quote comes from?

[@Waldorkin720p]

@@joaco4927 i want to know too

[@Waldorkin720p]

i wish i knew where the story of the boy in the lake came from, the original reading

[@adamb1593]

@@Waldorkin720p That's the roman legend of Echo and Narcissus. Well worth looking into

[@FiftyFivePercent]

I think the audio is from the zeitgeist movement. Remember it from my acid days, ironically. From what I remember it was a scathing critique of the global capitalist system. Better electronic waste than real waste, IMO

[@dagbot8297]

I've been playing TF2 for many years now, and in the process have accumulated an inventory that anyone in the trading scene would consider "built". When I was active in the trading scene several years ago I came to the uncomfortable realization that I would eventually sell off my inventory, for a variety of reasons. Flash forward a few years to today with the current state TF2 is in, and I think that time may be coming soon. While I love the game and am proud of the results of playing it for what is rounding up to 9 years of on and off activity, something I've come to recently realize that at the end of the day..... Its all just a bunch of pixels.

[@cramyt]

i dont think thats a problem, as long as the items carry a value even if its not real. as long as the demand is high then as far as i am concerned it is worth money.. i have a decent cs inventory and people can say its a bunch of pixels but in the end if you have disposable income, why not use it? its basically a hobby for me to collect skins by now anyway so how is it different to any other hobby? what i dont like really is the gambling because that can put you in real trouble

[@TheGreatPooyah]

I cringed so hard at the reactions that I almost broke my spine

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

They need to entertain their embryo audience in order to get that fat paycheck and sponsorships

[@mooganify]

You don’t cringe backwards

[@IncognitoBambino]

I gave my friend a $20 steam card for his birthday back in like 2015. He decided to use all $20 on csgo cases (thats only 8 keys/cases). He opened a $300 factory new bayonet doppler in one of the cases and me and my friends were freaking out because it was just crazy at the time. Im glad that loot boxes are fading away but I have to admit, csgo in its prime (specifically when skin gambling websites were still a thing) was one of the best times in gaming. Call me cringe but this shit was nostalgic to watch sadly. Im not saying that all the gambling was a good thing, im just saying that it was a very entertaining time.

[@Vdk758]

I thought it was funny how they overreacted to what they got

[@borov788]

@@Vdk758 id want to look at you just spending 3$ getting 500

[@omegablender]

I'm glad i'm too broke to be dropping cash on micro-transactions

[@issabeganovic8822]

me too

[@AlyphRat]

I'll only spend money on hardware, that's necessary. Micro-transactions, nah.

[@fluffy-hellhound]

I'm glad putting money on my Steam account requires getting up and going to the store. It gives me time to think about what I will do with this money.

[@FeatheredBiped23]

Haha I am so broke I can't even buy a fucking game

[@afromans170]

3edgy 5me haha im so broke i had to steal this phone to make this reply

[@l.pietrobon3925]

Ah, yes, the gaming community. Known for loving gambling, and hating gambling.

[@cangrejopendejo4909]

@@MacenW Everyone says they hate micro transactions, but they wouldn't exist if they didn't sell.

[@merucrypoison296]

Gamers be like: FUCK EA FOR THEIR GREEDY GAMBLING SHIT Also gamers: Ay bro I just gambled away thousands of dollars for this shit skin woooo

[@Shteven]

@cangrejopendejo4909 90% of the income comes from 10% of the players.

[@eitherslashor]

"none of it was really yours, you got all heated up about it for a while" 4 years later and i still remember this line from time to time for some reason

[@goico6223]

VERY powerful video. Well done.

[@bigdukethestank]

goico the only people I can see bothered are the ones this video woke up, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen

[@Kaipyro67ALT]

It's kind of scary, because one day I found myself adding $50 dollars to Steam JUST to buy keys, and then I stopped and thought; "What the fuck am I doing? I'm spending all of my money on pixels." At that point I stopped, because I felt dirty, like I'd done something morally wrong.

[@REDEEMERWOLF]

@Sausyk r/wooosh

[@johnbaines2969]

I bought a $2.45 key, for a laugh, and got something worth almost 50 bucks. Australian dollars.

[@karambadodox]

@Mister Guy you just won the best comment award

[@andre-li7qo]

@Sausyk pixels and audio.

[@AB-lx2zi]

I feel it's justified as long as the game you are investing in has a considerable amount of play time. For example most story based AAA games span a Max of 20 hours for $60. Playing a game like csgo or tf2 for 100+ hours also means you didn't spend $300 on AAA games. Sparing $50 for a cosmetic, weather its for personal profit or just to have a satisfying skin on your loves weapon is not the bad of an idea (TBH I have spent 370hrs in tf2 without spending a penny)

[@PoontJadmi8421]

The part where the guy talks about the Greek myth of Narcissus gives me goosebumps every time. It’s like, we’ve been doing this for thousands of years, for hundreds of generations, and we still haven’t learned our lesson. This is an excellent video.

[@wanderingwobb6300]

It's fucking wild how EA took the full brunt blame for the lootbox controversy in gaming while Valve walked away scott free. Valve literally were the ones who started it all and remain beloved by so many people to this day.

[@thetechdog]

Lord Gaben can do no wrong /s

[@Omabatfartsbruh]

thing is valve started a fucking economy, while others locked the vault to themselves

[@wanderingwobb6300]

@@Omabatfartsbruh Yeah valve's system is even worse. Double dip on sales on the marketplace, cause massive price inflation for rare items ($1000 knives are literally no better than NFTs), and make a market ripe for scammers/gambling/money laundering. It's actually unreal.

[@CrysisFear]

@@wanderingwobb6300 The Chinese were literally washing their dirty money trough steam it insane how the government doesent know sh1t.

[@steiner_01]

use translate... la verdad el principal culpable de todo esto es Team Fortress 2, es decir, Valve utilizo el juego como campo de pruebas para ver como los jugadores reaccionaban ¿no me crees? mira como lentamente cambio Valve a partir de los sombreros por alla en el 2008 y como poco a poco esta politica se extendio a otros juegos, mientras tanto TF2 siguio decayendo y financiando la fiesta de CSGO, nieguenlo todo lo que quieran pero CSGO y DOTA2 por largos años estuvieron comiendo gracias a TF2, ¿y que nos dieron? un juego mal optimizado y apestado de bots en los servidores

[@victorespinosa2805]

Man this some twilight zone shit right here...

[@atypicalinternetdweller4997]

Vic Espica Dodododo Dodododo Dodododo Dodododo Dodododo

[@atypicalinternetdweller4997]

Jackson DeCourcy Really? Damn

[@frz1148]

Valve's forgotten game Day of defeat :(

[@Wollen173]

Ricochet

[@cralo2569]

Ricochet is fucking forgotten. I once buyed it and there was no server at all.

[@nox3154]

and what about Deathmatch: Classic? holy shyt

[@Suzukaze_Tk]

Mr Ass it was actually resurrected by the people who made insurgency

[@zackl2000]

meme Ricochet should have another game. The idea has so much potential to get better and its just been sitting there.

[@thegoblin8269]

1:52 thats a nice hat design in the white board

[@theadhdunicyclist]

I still think this is your best video ever. Incredible and well written.

[@aggserp4340]

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

[@Nothing-pb8hu]

Aggserp4 Too true.

[@OlviMasta77]

No but Albert Einstein did.

[@leprechaunluck24]

Aggserp4 nice vaas

[@SmileytheSmile]

You didn't, Vaas did.

[@greeny6184]

Aggserp4 the best gaming line ive ever hear in my life

[@faeinthebay]

Wow, perfect documentary style.

[@ooo8720]

The fact behind all this, is that these people recording themselves tend to overreact to attract a greater viewership，both on twith and youtube. Viewership brings money (adrevenue in youtube and donations on twitch). Thus overreacting=more money. When the kids see their beloved streamer/youtuber winning skins, they gamble themselves.

[@rnrailproductions5049]

Peter Herceg Like TmarTn who ran that rigged CSGOLotto website and did those fake reactions when he won those skins, yet he already knew he'd get them. And I still wonder why the fuck he isn't in prison yet for committing that crime.

[@iratepirate3896]

Because our legal systems are twenty years behind at best.

[@TheGringuish12]

The 2nd reason I love Crowbcat content is the comments like this, straight fact accuracy, unfortunately...

[@Honestry_]

I lost 200$ dollars worth of skins which I put money in. I lost it on gambling websites and it's not worth it. I comeback to this video that these items are just pixels

[@iShredStreets]

For me, this is his best video. Short but powerful. I come back often to rewatch this masterpiece.

[@gothicspoon]

I just opened a tf2 Halloween chest about 10 minutes ago and got a conga unusualifier. A few years ago, I would have been ecstatic and would have proudly paraded throughout servers. Instead, I sighed, whispered "finally", and put it on the market for sale so that some sucker can fund my future purchases of games on Steam. Edit: I sold it on OPSkins instead, and used the money to buy myself a fancy espresso machine, a shiny new toaster, and a new coffee table. My breakfasts improved drastically thanks to that crate, lol.

[@GraveUypo]

a coffee machine AND a toaster? how much is that shit animation wort-- i mean how much does it cost?

[@klinkersgas]

GraveUypo it used to be very expensive but now it’s worth almost nothing.

[@mariodacostamosteiro7262]

A breakfast inusual? Sounds nice.

[@CunningCondor]

Yeah I now just put all my crates up for a penny on the market.

[@MyKeY_]

These screaming streamers are the reason why we won't have Half-Life 3/2 Episode 3.

[@WELSHGAMER99]

valve truly has lost their way.

[@LolLol-og3vw]

The colossal worldwide downward spiral is happening.

[@washboardman7435]

It feels like the human version of the Beautiful Ones.

[@DangerB0ne]

Cunt Sniffer look up the Calhoun rat utopia experiment, "the beautiful ones" were rats that became reclusive, only occupying their time with grooming, solitary activities, and feeding when other rats were asleep. They were rats that lived an utterly hollow existence and only came about when the rat utopia was on the road to decline and collapse.

[@ramirez2383]

AMEN

[@MSB_Rich]

You saved me from myself with this video. Thanks dude.

[@kankeydong2500]

This actually life changing

[@IdleInsomniac]

The fact your icon is Kaiji gives this comment a different meaning to me. Gambling is dangerous indeed.

[@normalhumanperson8858]

As a TF2 free-to-play, I can confirm that wearing exclusively free cosmetics is an unsurpassable style Gibus forever

[@C.A._Old]

How about 2007-2008-2009 Era ? that was awesome Classes major updates.

[@nicolasm5225]

It's a smarter choice to buy a $300 knife than to open $300 worth of cases. Once you buy the knife you can sell it later when you realize what an idiotic purchase you have made.

[@chenchen6150]

Put in mind alpt of csgo youtuber that peomote those skin gambling site were paid like thousand bucks just to shut their mouth or there will be a bullet in your head.

[@Username-ky3lr]

well said

[@Username-ky3lr]

@Cole you are welcome

[@YataTheFifteenth]

I don't get the people that waste hundreds of dollars into a single skin. I really don't.

[@tripster1235]

@@YataTheFifteenth some people buy expensive skins to hold onto till they go up in value and then sell

[@Val_Loves_En]

"Not gambling but having a random chance" WTF, DUDE?! Not woman but female, man!

[@netkid5460]

Valery Nikitenkov Problem is: Csgo gamblers doesn't recognize that...

[@hr1meg]

"Not mods, but micro DLC" -Bethesda

[@coolchouzhao]

Valery Nikitenkov pretend you’re playing one of those 777 games, you see the images, you click it, but it’s not random. The tf2/csgo cases are truly random, you can’t stop on one

[@RSHOE]

the preview with the skins scrolling is premade based on calculations done as soon as you unbox a case. what you get is determined at the very beginning and there are set chances for how rare the item is

[@Toxicotton]

random chance implies there's no cost/investment or that effects have unprovoked causes. Randomization is inherent to gambling anyways, so I don't think this dude even knows what he's trying to say...other than "Don't sue us"

[@TheAxeLord47911]

I never thought Valve would go from making games to making over-glorified gambling simulators designed to prey off of the weak-minded and addictive, but here we are. Absolutely disgusting.

[@cacomeat7385]

Boyd the Reaver To be fair you're not required to buy into any of this, you can still play the game normally without purchasing a single cosmetic, but Valve indirectly led it's entire community to self force it upon themselves. This is what happens when a decentralized company model grows to AAA proportions. Valve started out as a very small company so the whole latiezz fiare (I can't spell that phrase for shit lol) business model worked beautifully. But as valve grew more successful and they made more money, they kept using this business model without ever realizing what it could do. I know Gabe Newell isn't directly responsible for this, he has much more morals than that, but since he never took the time to monitor his own company's development (no one really did for that matter), this shit was allowed to occur. As gaming continues to grow into a mainstream form of entertainment the amount of legitimacy and love drastically go down the drain and instead it becomes an over-capitalistic fuckfest

[@TheAxeLord47911]

True, Gabe Newell isn't the type who would support this sort of thing. But you still can't deny that this is some abhorrent business practices. TF2 went from a game that was all about fun, balanced multiplayer shooting to a game that's LITERALLY a digital casino, to the point I've gotten fed up with it enough to leave the fandom. Preying on the weak for money is something *no* self-respecting game company should do. Sorry, it's just outrageous to think about is all. =/

[@tamedpassions9523]

tfw to intelligent

[@mymanpaddymcnair1950]

It's what we in the trade call 'business'

[@joaopaulodealmeidabrandao3526]

we asked for it

[@namesurname8474]

Thinking about how TF2 is so unique from other shooters in many ways, yet something as preposterous as hats are what people recognize it from.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

the hat simulator joke used to be funny 10 years ago, but now its a sad reflection on what tf2 has become

[@laius6047]

It was so good. Everything was polished it my opinion. Then they started adding the new modes that were importing the game even more. Until the cosmetics started. Then the downfall began

[@mylifesogood217]

Well, for example, I’m not interested in hats in the game at all, this one is just a fun addition for me, nothing more, I spend more time just playing and stuffing hours.I don't have a very powerful computer, so the game runs at high settings with almost no brakes and I just have fun in the game. But sometimes there really are people who play only for skins,and for me it's kinda weird

[@KingYurtleOfTurtle]

*Sees screen full of girl gamers* *lowers headset volume*

[@wildwasteland5821]

Yeah, girls tend to be much better at faking orgasms.

[@JustCraftItNow]

KingYertleOfTurtle i think everyone did that

[@adisturbedpistachio223]

SAAAAAME

[@killika9846]

KingYertleOfTurtle but what about the begining of the video?

[@TheOnlyGimmeturben]

KingYertleOfTurtle so fuckin true

[@FlipZFox]

As a 2007 TF2 veteran and a early CSGO player, I am absolutely disgusted how both of these games ended up being Valve's quality neglected hyper-Casinos. I do however still play Dota 2, but even that game has taken the road of skins that cross the line. I hope Valve's lack of morality will one day stab the company in the back.

[@Beghty27]

Flip ze Fox I honestly hope the same thing happens. I am grateful they made tf2, but it had so much more potential than what valve did to it.

[@lamarek2011]

amen

[@depralexcrimson]

Yeah I know right? 2013-2014 was acceptable, until they started adding millions of particles and what-so-not that at a certain point you can't understand anything in a team-fight.

[@davidambroz6660]

dota is already becoming casino. Remember the old days at source 1 and drops from cases.

[@depralexcrimson]

David Ambrož I remember the times when Valve wasn't a whore and were giving items at the end of the match randomly, but the bad thing was that only leavers and noobs with 0-319391318 were getting the items. Was so frustrating.

[@nonautemrexchristus5637]

if we ever get an English task for examining a video for it's components, this will be me fucking go to choice to deconstruct

[@oslodapig5239]

General Rommel Never knew Nazi generals watch this channel

[@JohnDoe-xp9zk]

Oslo Da Pig Rommel if you think about was no 'Nazi General'. Sure he had to fight under the banner of The Third Reich, but he was personally against it's policies. Hell, he was executed because he was part of Operation Valkyrie. (The failed attempt to kill Hitler)

[@dannylamb456]

Post vid when you do it?

[@nakbearevalo]

This is indeed a very interesting subject.

[@oslodapig5239]

The whole situation is a depressing downwards spiral for some people, some have spent all their money on this. I'm glad someone made a video to put it into perspective.

[@whatsappgaming920]

That ending speech sounds like exactly what g-man would say, if he asked about weapon skin gambling...