8-BALL CLIFFHANGER | Shane Van Boening vs Oscar Dominguez | 2018 US Open 8-Ball Championship

[@markabrice]

Freddy and George are hands down the best pool commentators in the business.

[@thangs]

Oscar is a real treasure to the game. He's a true gentleman and even when he's down he shows real sportsmanship. It's awesome to see him shooting so confidently against someone of Shane's caliber. He has to be one of the hardest working players in the sport, with the new baby and new pool hall purchase and all. Hat's off to him.

[@marshalcraft]

I don't know, throwing chalk onto table when shane, come's off one ball to any random spot not blocked for the 8, inches off pocket (and just barely pocketing 11 ball hitting side wall of pocket) seem's like a "you only won cause you got lucky" type thing which is hardly … great sportsmanship. That said, dry breaks got him, but he certainly brought a challenge to SVB. But yeah again, I detected a bit of rushing the table and "oh hey you want me to move the triangle for you" when it's SVB's turn at the table, all bullshit head games stuff Oscar is trying to use to gain advantage. Fortunately SVB has seen them all, and is amazing underpressure. He only loses when his opponent is truly playing better then he is and even then I don't think I've seen a better player in our current times (ie. Efren and others) maybe the boy in philipines Antwan Ragga.

[@marshalcraft]

And in my opinion it's okay I expect Oscar to be pissed, he played great all tournament, but that's the way things go, any pool player should know that, the sport can be so cruel. But to go out and start talking about "sportsmanship" when we all know players are dirty as fuck trying to play mind games instead of letting opponent player their best. Just stupid do you want to play pool or psychology?

[@phillipwilliams2249]

@@marshalcraft Ive seen a number of oscars matches, and he has never Impressed me, although his father..Ernesto has Impressed me.

[@rickshanteau3211]

I'm with you buddy!

[@lemonadegrave]

​​@@marshalcraft I feel you with Oscar not moving the rack for him, even though he had dry breaks where he cleaned up the rack for Shane previously, but don't move the magic rack for shane at hill-hill! fuckin' Thelma wouldn't have even done that for Louise. The chalk was probably thrown with a smile and no contempt for a poorly hit key ball. Oscar doesn't seem like a poor sport, he seems high minded, but I don't know him.

[@lstone234]

These are two of my favorite players. I was at this event last year and got Oscars autograph and Shane signed my cue case. it was really cool being there in a room with all the people I watch on a regular basis.

[@marshalcraft]

SVB autographed 8 ball with white ink would be cool thing to have. Also one from Pagulayan, haha 2017 final was awesome.

[@Occupuyourspine]

Cool that you met these champions mister. 🤠

[@matternst5310]

This is a top notch match. I've been watching a lot of CueSports videos and at first the commentating seemed lackluster but I've actually grown to really respect the commentators and their input. They can't see every angle and what is blocked or free, the pro's can change patterns on a whim making their comment null and void. But they deliver an excellent perspective. All around, top notch video, commentating and pool playing. It doesn't get better!

[@marshalcraft]

oh yeah, it's been few years now with these guys and they grow on you, now it makes this tournament what it is with their commentating, even if they piss me off most of the time haha.

[@butchlewis3503]

i want to be like Shane when i grow up heck i am only 70

[@tjfree04]

Are really 70? If you are , age is just a number bud . (I'm only 15)

[@davidparker8475]

These two players are champions and a true pleasure to watch.

[@RT-Ford]

It's very enjoyable if you mute the sound and make your own commentary.

[@ryanmoon05]

Omg, these videos are quickly becoming annoying to watch.

[@MikeyD22]

I'm a huge of SVB but it's impossible not to like Oscar. He's a class act and an incredibly smart player. This was one of those matches where you sit back and enjoy and whoever wins, no problem.

[@jrbr549]

I watched this right after watching one of Tor's videos on pattern play. Good stuff.

[@1-Random-Subscriber]

Game number 4 is what makes 8Ball game so much more than any other version, be it 9 ball, 10 ball, straight pool etc!! Loved it!

[@krautmasterr9719]

Great match, thx for post & actual HD.

[@KayOScode]

I really like how oscar called the game before the 8 ball shot. Not letting your opponent shoot an easy moneyball is a sign of respect

[@MrKeysersoze1981]

38:07 after he knocks in the 8 ball. Look at the table and tell me the best shot Oscar has if he misses. He's practicing his defense as he pockets the 8 ball.

[@AGSkaary]

Great content but I could go without the intro playing 6-7 times at the start of the video.

[@marshalcraft]

the video is over an hour long and you're complaining about nice, professional looking intro that last 7 seconds.

[@user-hh9ni8su3p]

Hahaha agreed

[@physicsguybrian]

@@marshalcraft He didn't complain about it lasting 7 seconds, he said "I could go wihout the intro playing 6-7 times". There is a difference and I agree with him. It is not the time, it is the content. No need whatsoever to be redundant like that.

[@Occupuyourspine]

when Shane was getting his Cadillac car washed he noticed that the guy working at the car wash was someone that had bullied him over his impaired hearing in high school. I expect Shane had a big grin at that moment.

[@billiardsgeek4416]

Great match. I will continue to practice my break.

[@clicgear100]

What a match.

[@Occupuyourspine]

IMHO: 🤠 The cloth should be dark green with recognizable Brunswick centennial balls. These girlish blue tables make it HARD TO FOLLOW games, sheesh!

[@Dweller777]

I don't think the logo was displayed enough at the first of the video. Only eight times? I wanted to see it at least ten!!

[@llltrac9143]

lol

[@danrion8839]

Psychologically any player will lose half the battle if they know their opponent is Shane Vanboning.

[@levilozier9609]

With all due respect to the commentators, pool will never gain viewership with commentary like this. Golf is a boring sport to watch, but look at their viewership. Follow their lead CSI !!!!!!

[@RajeshJustaguy]

have to agree... cant really stand the commentary...

[@BimaKahfi]

Oscar is really a Gentleman.

[@RajeshJustaguy]

Okay the commentators.. plss just my opinion and feedback. You dont have to keep talking all the time. It's best to have quality over quantity. Sometimes its okay but not all the time. 29.06- talking about where he put his cue point. 40 seconds of rambling. The commentary for that moment would not have added any value. If you watch that whole rack without any commentary you will realise how good that clearance was. Oscar was really good.. especially the last 4 balls potted

[@ashupashu5559]

2:52 how did he break without moving the 8 ball!?!?!

[@BaconFrisbee]

39:14 Imagine hitting a break like that every time... the game wouldn't even be fun anymore

[@ryanmoon05]

For you or your opponent?

[@RT-Ford]

A little light jazz is nice also.

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

How many matches can a player have per day and how long is the average match? (Plus some of these guys practice at the tournaments too?!)

[@neuvocastezero1838]

An alternative to the "hand wave"? The "Efren chuckle".

[@Spoodlewok]

I can't believe there's a crying baby at a tournament championship. Great game! Loved the seemingly drunk announcers.

[@shadowjack8]

I wish there was an option to remove the commentary.

[@phillipwilliams2249]

UNDERSTAND.. i MUTE MY SOUND.

[@zwerrell]

Awesome game, but this game cannot be described as a cliffhanger... a cliffhanger leaves the audience without resolution-like the end of an episode of most tv shows. the better word would be "BARNBURNER" or "NAILBITER" or something else along those lines

[@jamest3552]

Oscar seems like a good dude.

[@orsonboggs7753]

this Dominguez dude looks like James Dewar the singer in Robin Trowers band back in the 70's...I keep thinking that he remined me of somebody and that's who...

[@bryandominik9333]

I disagree with everybody. I love the commentary. They may not know what shot Shane or Oscar is going to play every time but they see the other shots they could play. If you're new to pool I would definitely listen to everything they are saying.

[@physicsguybrian]

Bryan Dominik: If you were new to pool and listened to everything they said with a naive perspective it would damage you forever as a player. New players need sound applicable advice, not a barrage of anecdotal ramblings by commentators who don't know when to be quiet. You can learn more by watching pattern play in action. It speaks for itself.

[@bryandominik9333]

@@physicsguybrian watching pattern play doesn't mean anything if your new and don't know your English. I have several students who love watching these videos specifically and have learned alot from them by watching the patterns and listening to the commentary. But none of that matters if you don't have a teacher.

[@bryandominik9333]

Im also talking about intermediate players who know their English. Not players who have never picked up a pool cue in their life.

[@darrellmccall6100]

Shane is so sick........its ridiculous 😩😂

[@FirstWayHockey]

Do someone knows what is a "hand flip gesture" they speak about at around 43:25 ?

[@AdamMurrayLive]

Sounds like the commentators are eating and trying to talk between bites at the opening of this one.

[@turalrzazade8626]

guys, why do they hit a ball each at the same time in the beginning?

[@jaker5837]

“Lagging” for first break shot. Closest to head rail wins..

[@SKYGILB]

22:30 Oscar probably should have banked the 14 (blocked Shane's 3 if it missed) and if he made it, the runout would be easy. Never ever like a full-table shot jacked over a ball

[@lukepoole6293]

That puke green 6 ball is bad for the sport. Normal colored 6 balls please.

[@bigdaddycoool2485]

The only criticism is you guys are constantly wrong predicting the players patterns. make the comments after.

[@stephenbarnes7881]

Question: Why doesn't Shane have to shoot the eight ball at the end of game two? Right around minute 19 if you want to look for it. There's probably a simple answer, but I don't know all the pro/ tournament rules.

[@willied9033]

Stephen Barnes Oscar conceded the game and considered the 8 ball made.

[@barnabasbartha3507]

He has to, unless the opponent concedes as Oscar acknowledges the win.

[@frankieduvall5642]

He could do this or this or that. Ohhh he did that of course.

[@corbinbarrus5914]

I’m confused at 19:05 he just stops the rack before Shane sinks the 8?

[@procrastinator6902]

It because he conceded the loss. He knew he'd make the ball so just went ahead and continued on to the next game.

[@adambaldwin258]

Are they playing all ball fowls? Rack 7 Oscar accidentally cue taps and moves a solid

[@barnabasbartha3507]

I dont think he touched it. The cue ball moved that one. As far as I could see

[@elbee_12]

The cue ball hit it.

[@FilipAltnp]

i like domingues cue a lot,, do we know how this wood is called

[@bane_37]

Oscar is still listed on Mezz's website as a player and I know Mezz is going to be releasing it's own carbon fiber shaft so while Im not certain, an educated guess tells me its a Mezz butt with a prototype carbon fiber shaft.

[@FilipAltnp]

@@bane_37 thnx bro

[@danny_5283]

Oscar is shooting with a Predator Revo now: www.predatorcues.com/pro-team/oscar-dominguez/

[@brutalion2295]

Can someone explain to me the first rack. He pocketed 2 solids on the break. Doesn't that mean he chooses? Why is he able to hit the stripe on the opening shot. (ima pool scrub)

[@kylemiller6146]

With the rules they are using, it is still an open table after the break regardless of what balls are made. Therefore it is legal to hit the striped ball first to pocket the 4 ball. He is then solids and must hit a solid first from that point on

[@brucewwwwwayne1229]

Where’s referee?

[@dennisschell5543]

If only SVB would listen to the mouthpieces in the booth right?!? 😒

[@scotty193]

The commentary was brilliant, Dominquez had made 3 shorts and they called everything wrong talking fucking shit. If they could not deduce that initial 5 ball passed the 10 they shouldn't even be there..........What a bunch of clowns.

[@pulixpulix2420]

Do they both use the Predator REVO shaft?

[@hawkwind769]

Think Shane's is cue tec

[@pulixpulix2420]

@@hawkwind769 The butt, yes, it's cuetec. But the shaft .... you can hear the sound that is NOT wood. If Cuetec has the same shaft or a homologue .. I don't know

[@hawkwind769]

@@pulixpulix2420 cue tec just released a carbon fiber shaft a few months ago

[@pulixpulix2420]

@@hawkwind769 I understand. Ok, thx

[@rubberducky1853]

Oscar is using the predator revo. Either 12.4 or 12.9. Shane is using the cuetec cynergy shaft on his 15-k cue. He’s using the 12.5 with a kamui brown medium

[@michaeljohnson731]

Can’t get over the smacking from the commentators!! Annoying as hell

[@10efranco]

Americans: Shane Van Boening is the best player in the world. Europeans: Joshua Filler is the best player in the world. Asians: Ko Ping Chung is the Best player in the world. 🙄

[@ryanstocking6367]

27:17 "Yeth" lol

[@lukepoole6293]

If these anouncers shoot like they commentate they wouldn't be able to make 2 balls in a row ever.

[@MadMatt-bs3xv]

Can anybody tell me who the manufacturer is of that rack their using? Or any suggestions for a good one? I bought a shitty one off Ebay and it sucks. What do the pros use?

[@landonwilliamson68]

I believe the rack is called magic rack

[@rubberducky1853]

Lag at 1:17

[@josegomez-no1up]

Thanks

[@outdoorvideos3825]

Good lookin

[@mikelessard7492]

Shane is an amazing player top world player but he also has one of the strangest voices of pros that I've heard before lol

[@thangs]

He was born almost entirely deaf in both ears, something like 15% or lower hearing capacity, iirc from watching his biopic. Plug your ears and talk for a while, you'll see how much we rely on our ability to hear ourselves in order to correct speech patterns on the fly. It's not automatic. Imagine doing that your whole life. Apparently, he really busted ass to overcome his hearing impairment. I think he sounds great, personally.

[@mikelessard7492]

@@thangs o wow I never heard that before....considering all that...ya most deff

[@robertovelez8147]

Oscar cheated @ 44:22 into the match....please comment if you see it to POOL TRICK SHOT SLEEPING CUE BALL..... Oscar moved the 7ball with his stick after shooting the 14ball allowing the cue ball to pass without hitting the 7ball....WOW crazy no referring on that shot.....

[@barnabasbartha3507]

What do you mean, the cue ball hit it lol.

[@elbee_12]

The cue ball hit it. If Oscar hit it, Shane would have said something.

[@ev6558]

I'm watching on my phone and I can still see his cue never touches the ball. Sounds like you need glasses.

[@mikelessard7492]

Oscar squashed him..smfh 🤦‍♂️ pool is soo rediculous...bad beats take out the best players while others get 💩luck

[@MilkAxe]

New videos... fuck yeah! SVB, get me pregnant!

[@klixtrio7760]

Commentators should stop trying to guess what shot is next gets old real fast

[@paulkrogjensen]

Watching muted due to bad commentating 🔇

[@pcbn2u]

Two things, those new "racks" affect the trajectory of the balls and Shane's vertical pumping of the pool cue really bothers me. I know he is a sharpshooter and hits what he aims at but that pumping up and down disturbs me. :)

[@phillipwilliams2249]

robert johnson, I think we all would like you to shutup, or get your daddy to speak for you.

[@physicsguybrian]

"Cliffhanger", "Nailbiter", man I guess hype is what brings views? I thought it was people's love and passion for the game but all along it turns out to be nouns. Learn something new everyday!

[@plzitzjustmahcheezits909]

You’re composing about... the title? Boomers like you is why pool doesn’t grow.

[@kristinmajkozak4274]

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[@Smartdevildog06]

1:06:37 that was an incredible safe shot my god

[@phillipwilliams2249]

ON THE TOPIC OF SHOULD SLOP BE ALLOWED ? Well lets see what do you gain and what do you lose. The advocates say it adds excitement to the game.. such a statement reminds me of when ignorant people clap when they see a ball slop in, granted theirs shots that werent actually slopped in and to the unknowing eye appeared to be, but the skilled player and the knowledgeable watcher USUALLY can tell the differance, as far as the added excitement, personally i never get excited over shit in balls..at least not since i had 1 month experiance in game...say when i was 13 yrs old. NOW imagine the players are hill hill for state championship... one player shits in 3 ball then proceeds to run out the easy remaining rack..whereas without the shit the opponent would have run the easy rack..what we gained in some eyes ( the ignorant few) was a bit of excitement. What the opponent lost was his bid for title, that he may have practiced for twice as hard as the lucky ass. What the spectators lost was the answer to the question who is the states champion, simply put absolutely no one knows..they can guess at best...I say the dubious excitement to the knowing is to high a price to pay....Now thats just one shit shot that could have caused this travesty of justice..in reality ive seen numerous shit shots in a few minutes, like we all have, and thats just for state title...how much more terrible for world title, And for the idiot that says its an even chance for both players to slop balls in, i say such an ignorant person is not from this planet, because everyone knows some people are luckier than others on any given day, For the retard that says well it wouldnt be 9 ball without slop, many many games and sports progress thru rule changes to better the event. I say, dont change the rule on any game unless it could change the outcome in an unfair way..say costing player or team the most important thing they have trained for for years and years...Or lets forget players/teams of countries and there hard work and let the few ignorant get some false excitement. Now we all realize ever since we were in 1st grade theres going to be some crybabies who will lay on the floor, kicking their feet, wailing etc. If the more skilled, trained or superior individual has the advantage every time. so the unskilled crybaby will lobby the teacher or parent or principle to allow in a measure of luck. then the namby pamby person of position will say..yeh lets make it more even..as if thats more important than finding the most deserving, i love pool but this one point im so tired of debating for the last twenty years..im ready to stop watching pool and instead just watch two unskilled morons flip a coin over and over to see who,s the best at flipping....how exciting

[@bradleyburton2664]

Please come off the rag before going on an hour long rant. 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@phillipwilliams2249]

@@bradleyburton2664 get a life.......boy

[@bradleyburton2664]

@@phillipwilliams2249 get a life.... bitch 😂

[@phillipwilliams2249]

@@bradleyburton2664 Its hard for little bradley to find someone willing to read him the longer letters, so he complains when folks write them...go back to watching your soap operas little bradley....grown ups are trying to discuss things.....punk.

[@bradleyburton2664]

@@phillipwilliams2249 you speak as if you're a grown up but you whine and complain like a 12 year old girl that can't get her way. You're probably one of those crack heads trying to hustle someone in a pool room for 5 dollars with your shit breath and half rotted teeth 😂😂

[@ReyBanYAHUAH]

Always remember to repent of your sins (sin is transgression of YAHUAH’S LAW: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy) And Have Belief On YAHUSHA HAMASHYACH. HE Died and Rose Again On The Third Day So that you can be forgiven of your sins! HE Loves you! Come to HIM!🙂

[@brendenkurtyka2772]

God these guys talk wayyyy too much.

[@tedcontreras9729]

The commentary is horrible!!!

[@arbitrage2141]

Give them a fucking break. Its really hard to commentate 8-ball. Theres so many variables in 8-ball. Its not like 9-ball where as long as you make something on the break you literally just win, and 9-ball commentators know exactly what ball the player is shooting for next because they HAVE TO. 8-ball is extremely different and difficult to comentate. I think they did an okay job.

[@sphinxishtah429]

Terrible decision

[@garradlester6443]

Great pool, rubbish commentary.

[@BostonSecret45]

i didnt even know oscar flamingo was good at 8 ball

[@lapnguyen2898]

When you are a pro, you should be able to play 8-ball, 9-ball, and 10-ball. One any given day, anyone of them can beat the other. One-pocket and straight pool are different though. Some of the top players in the world don't play one-pocket, and Shane doesn't play straight pool that much, but he is great at one pocket.

[@danielopher9594]

Hell of a game