8-BALL THRILLER! Shane Van Boening vs Thorsten Hohmann | 2016 Poison Challenge | Race to 21

[@Bloodkenp]

That was by far one of the best matches I've seen.

[@charlesfair1582]

Sorry,had to turn sound off. 21 racks of George,Freddy and Jay analysis would put me in a straight jacket. Great shooting !

[@darynelee9745]

Some of the Best Commentators of a Pool Match that I have seen and Great Match by two World class player's.

[@MARK-f4p8g]

cant see commentators. you hear them

[@nautica7084]

13:30 Check out the flex on the cue when you break. Anyone noticed?

[@AngrierGorilla]

which is completely normal on break shots

[@geezus1201]

I love watching professional pool players bc I learn so much from them. I used to play pool every day when I was younger but now im disabled and can't see or walk good enough to play but I still love watching it.

[@saltyidiot2495]

Sorry if it sounds rude, but how can u see when u said that u are disabled and can't see?

[@MARK-f4p8g]

@@saltyidiot2495 cant see enough to play dipshid

[@homersimpson8561]

Jay Helfert: "Y'know Shane once told me something I'll never forget..." *forgets to finish the story*

[@IrWinRawr1]

Peadar He ended up finishing the story lol.

[@homersimpson8561]

Civilmk Haha I commented before he finished it. I just thought it was really funny

[@6sIXsIXs9]

he has no capstone

[@dsauce223]

It was funny, you are right.

[@adekbudi72]

Fucker

[@owenmonast9582]

Ever time I watch this game I learn something new from either the commentators or the players

[@thegodofpez]

One of the finest battles I’ve ever watched. Bravo to both.

[@Mickydaint]

39:35 ''they look like they're related'' ahahahahahah gold

[@bigjerm210ify]

LMFAOOO

[@asmodei]

LOOL ikr why is that comment even necessary

[@tylerwilliams7219]

Tyler Williams. Love your videos! I've learned a lot over the years

[@mariusalexandru3409]

great great great great 10x great game real pool. Thank you very much CueSports International and those Sponsors/Contributors. Cheers

[@theErikOrton]

Rrs

[@slowedmusicforyou]

what is this kind of the table ? I see it smaller than 9 pool table .

[@lordcerberus4894]

I was on the edge of my seat for this! Very, very good match!

[@TheOneNickel]

" Earl looks like a hockey goalie these days" hahahahaha!

[@tb68whiskey45]

I'TS PRONOUNCED "TORSTEN" FFS!!! You'd think by now they'd figure it out... That being said, this was a hell of a match. Thank you for uploading it, CSI!

[@lawryprice9717]

They are the worst commentators iv ever heard cant do simple math made 4 balls so there is 10 left to pick from race is 2 to 7 if he wins this he will be within 3 these to guys are idiots

[@fredhugard7444]

He's actually said he prefers "toasty". Seriously

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

I heard from a match a while back that you can pronounce it Torsten or Thorsten

[@fredhugard7444]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 he can call himself whatever he wants...I'll send him home crying in his sauerkraut. Lol.

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

Fred Hugard well prove it on live television

[@BeanstotheBones]

1:45:30 what a nice shot from hohmann, wow !

[@freedomhard2310]

Shane is a freaking machine! And Keep America Great!

[@hectorortiz4498]

What a great approach and run out by Shane on the last game. Played it like chess and just great playing

[@marshalcraft]

Svb basically had to run out, that was it hill hill. He was lucky to even get a chance, Thorstons break.

[@hoangson690]

ccc

[@steveclapper5424]

They both played unbelievably clean till the end.

[@MARK-f4p8g]

he ran out, no chess game

[@botacoghic]

is this an 8ft table?

[@jackzhang631]

so when did Shane started doing the soft high five instead of a hand shake? noticed that also before his us open 8 ball match against Bustamante. is this a thing he do to familiar players?

[@geezus1201]

The way Shane studied his shot on the last rack was all pro. I play very amateur pool but learned how to play from my uncle who was a legendary snooker ball player in New Jersey and I love how I know the shoes the pros are going to take. Shane is awesome and I would love to meet him and play against him once for the heck of it if course I know I will loose but it will be fun. Keep up the great games Shane

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

I thought I was the only snooker from new jersey!! Where did your uncle play?

[@MARK-f4p8g]

self proclaimed "very amateur player" but yet you know the exact shots professional players are going to shoot......hhmm ok....

[@georgearway33]

Shane is such a stud. I'm new to the game and I'm a huge fan.

[@golfrrrr]

13th game rack had 2 stripes in the corner positions. Don't the corners have to be different for a legal rack?

[@brandonwirick6814]

What size is this table?

[@bg81973]

a lot of people fail to realize that 8-ball on a 7 foot is one of the toughest games. 15 balls in such a small area causes a lot of problems.

[@intothepark]

Maybe strategy wise but that's not the main reason why we should watch....more safety play/having to bump more balls/having lots of balls to shoot at/SUPER easy pockets with all short shots makes 8 ball Very very random. The tables need to all be 9-10 feet (for shot difficulty/publicity from the general public) and the pockets need to be the same width to ball ratio as snooker. Pool is just sooo luck based right now... The difficulty of the game based on random chance means nothing, difficulty based on tough shots will usually give you the better player. If you try and go pro right now without knowing you're a s good as shane... You're not the brightest fella with all this luck they allow... I refuse to pay Winner break tournaments. Fucking luck fest joke

[@fredhugard7444]

Nit warning...

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

It’s still the same concept just on a smaller scale

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

Just gotta be more careful with your stroke but the math and everything else is still the same

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

It how’s handle it mentAlly

[@markyMKV]

Explain please why they hit cue ball at the beginning

[@oantrung2082]

3:31:20 what happend here ? seem like svb touch the ball with his cue to me Or is it visually confusing by the camera angle

[@Dweller777]

The volume in this video is too high. It about blew my speakers when it started! Please lower it.

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

U have volume control deaf ol farts like me need the volume and it’s the adds that hit u

[@clicgear100]

One of my fav tournaments all time. Wish they would play these matches again.

[@mikehunt2445]

I havent seen a comment about this on any pool video ever, but does anyone agree that this triangle thing they use on the break instead of a traditional rack is a problem, i noticed that it influences how the balls move especially when they are slowing down. Does anyone have a comment on this?

[@roberthunter5728]

at @18:15 he calls shane a deaf mute. I know he is pretty much deaf but hes not a mute, I talked with this guy before.

[@MJStraughan]

Robert Hunter The commentator says a deaf mute managed to develop into a great player. At 19:08 it is explained that he didn't start speaking until he was 3 years old and how difficult it was. So it was meant that he managed to overcome his speaking trouble, is still deaf, and is now one of the best pool players in the world.

[@breannathompson9094]

Robert Hunter does he have like a mafia accent because it looks like he would despite being deaf

[@garygwinn4256]

Robert Hunter Right you are correct. Shane had speech issues in his youth, but he has pretty much overcame that. He has high-powered hearing aids, but he spent a long time as a young child without sound. That's a lot of adversity to overcome. Shane is the best pool player in our generation

[@bobbyjojo]

@@garygwinn4256 Shane is not the best. I can play just as good and I don't play professionally. He is one of the top 100 worldwide professional players. There are probably thousands of people that can play just as good if not better that cannot afford to play professionally.

[@cannonwar1]

@@bobbyjojo I know ur right sir......

[@josephnewcomb5670]

Would like to see them go back to the old racks and see how many runs they have then

[@ncvander]

audio is too quiet. the ads are killing me.

[@8329kelso]

Who was the other commentator with Jay?

[@xTBCGx]

Sorry if this is dumb but I always thought 8-ball racks had to have solids in every corner. In this league, is it just the 1 in the front and the 8 in the middle?

[@raymondcoolidgeiii1664]

The official rules are back two corners cannot be the same.

[@rudyalvarez8726]

Hi Mrcueball. Many people need translation. Thanks for the video.

[@larrycoffey8076]

that final rack was surgical

[@janicejagneaux7062]

The iPad overhead projection system, where can I get one?

[@janicejagneaux7062]

Sorry, spell check corrected. IPA

[@zombienectar]

if these guys played like the commentators thought neither one would ever win a game.

[@vebnew]

This was an excellent match - - - Shane the man

[@energy102]

Didn't they call Tom Cosmo, "The Cosmo Rocket".? Saw him play an exibition at Ralphs Pool Hall in Pinellas Park, Fl. He was with Minnesota Fats. That was late 60's. Never heard Cosmos' name again until this video. He did a lot of trick shots.

[@MALTHEMASTERBARBER]

Danny DiLiberto brought him up quite a bit in the Accustats videos going back to the 90’s, as there is a term in pool called “ a cosmo” it’s an easy runout! Danny D would mention him and how he glided around the pool table entertaining the crowd while running out as Cosmo would set the balls up that way! That is where the term came from Cosmo nickname!

[@energy102]

@@MALTHEMASTERBARBER Hey thanks for the info....always wondered about what happened to him. Those guys gave a very funny show. I remember a photo journalist asking Fats to make a ball so he could get a good picture of him. Fats said, as he walked around the table, standing straight up, shooing the balls in..."start taking your pictures anytime now...I'm gonna make all of'em."

[@AndreasRaiser]

Ist es ein 8ft Tisch? Sieht irgendwie klein aus...

[@jeffford2006]

Thank you for bringing the match for us to see....but chill with the commentary please cant think all the blabbering

[@jimwilson1817]

are you two aware the volume is too low to hear you speaking??

[@8329kelso]

Great match to the last shot!!

[@realmcneal2425]

What size table is that?

[@shaunmcguigan6202]

Real McNeal he said 7ft table in the video

[@adampaul1025]

Where is ken Schumann ?

[@bripi244]

Adam Jaros he had enough of people complaining about him

[@josephhepp3078]

Great match to watch and learn

[@sober_hiker]

What size is the table they're playing on?

[@MrJohnson141]

7 feet

[@Salty80556]

I am only half way through the match, but want to say; without doubt these announcers make one of the very best teams I have every heard in pool match. Not even sure yet what it is, but you are great! Now lets watch the rest of the match. BTW, I am very much an SVB fan.

[@PostUp_Time]

*SHANE BLEW MORE BALLS THAN A MANHATTAN HOOKER* LOL

[@breannathompson9094]

Its driving me crazy how many times it seemed like that plastic triangle messed up some of the balls.

[@jeremygibson9006]

Breanna Thompson I commented that earlier watching a match between Allison fisher and aiming Chen. The magic rack messed with the natural path of the balls like every single rack, it was bad

[@VikingMan44]

An old school rectangular wood rack is usually not very good at getting a tight rack but is gone after the break. Where as the magic rack gives you tighter balls but you have to deal with it's presence after the break. Pros and cons to each.

[@markonikolic1386]

@@VikingMan44 On high quality table that they have I think it would be fine or even better to use the triangle, but on most club tables a magic rack is almaost a must if you ask me.

[@jeffgould1386]

The volume on the adds is some next level shit!!!

[@zachsnyder5444]

That last game by Shane was monumental! so fun to watch

[@hnryg1971]

D fnd Nf l

[@souljamac1953]

I still cant believe he took that shot at 15:41. If he wouldve taken the corner shot he couldve broken up the 3. Must've have been nerves against Van Boening

[@josephnewcomb5670]

Shane is putting on a show

[@my240-vdi-6]

That last breakout by van boening was sick

[@1Andypro]

Haha Fred: "he's gonna drop the deuce." Nice faux pas. ;p

[@MARK-f4p8g]

18:25 *SVB Cue Wrap made larger diameter with Electrical Tape.* Goes to show cue diameters are way too narrow, too small diameter these days. 2023 definite but this back 2016. Earl uses larger wrap increase diameter. Fred Gorst also tried a wrap on top of factory wrap and kept it. butts are too narrow and taper too much What cue was SVB Breaking with here, in 2016? bright white lettering with sports wrap

[@037lazar]

What do these numbers and percentages mean bellow their names?

[@headhunter2833]

Ikr

[@fredhugard7444]

It's their fargo rating. around 780 and up is considered world class. Shane is currently number 1 in the world. I think his rating is like in the 820s.

[@fredhugard7444]

The % is just the percentage they have for winning the match at that point, based off their fargo rating and the current score. How is fargo rating assigned? Just from playing in fargo rated events. Other than that I think the algorithm is a trade secret...I may be wrong on that part, though; I'm no math major, so I never really cared about that part.

[@tripwarren]

This was a great match. Very good shooting and gamesmanship. Top Notch

[@nguyenmike5054]

Anyone know what cues do Shane and Thorsten using?

[@susanlittle2549]

looks like they are using Predators

[@fredhugard7444]

Shane uses cuetec Thorsten uses lucasi

[@bk7878]

Outstanding coverage and commentary!!! Thank you guy's for this, keep pool alive!!! 🎱

[@user-us4ws9px2s]

what the brand of vans cue?

[@vincentcoppola9832]

They said cuetec

[@samuelec]

are they play on a small 7 Foot table? :D

[@uyipoq]

samuelec was asking myself the same question

[@DamagerFX13]

what rules are they playing?

[@isaiah95786]

I think WPA

[@kyleguo2363]

They do have something that can cue makers can use to mimic the tape on Shane’s cue...the fishing and golf industry has deep using the wrap for decades

[@evansebast]

i'm sorry, who's that girl sitting behind Shane? Hehe

[@jamessansbury6787]

I don"t think that either of these guys have unintentionally missed a shot in 8 ball in like 6 years..... It is always awesome watching SVB play

[@robertmeadows1657]

2:55:42, catching the crappies.

[@letsgonow5641]

Great players both of them just Shane has the natural gift slight advantage.

[@stevenm6200]

Aweome match!!! Thanks

[@bryanrmcnair01]

8ft instead of 9ft table?

[@tylorlee7300]

It's a 7ft table

[@pazadasholanda]

Both using CUETEC?

[@fredhugard7444]

I thinkThorsten is sponsored by Lucasi. At least he was then, I think. Probably still is.

[@PeacefulVictorytoTruth]

1:06:37 WoW. What a shot

[@DolbzBruins]

Try watching this without commentary, its great lol

[@ellisfield159]

the friday night guys for some people that might be in the lead but alot of the amature league guys string break and runs and 8s on the 7 8 and 9 foot tables man comentators underestimate some of the league guys in this game

[@Stavrosg76]

really great match, suspense at the end

[@Cutlass7687]

Gotta watch pool videos to get ride of the scratch. Haha. Since all the places are closed due to this virus.. ☹

[@6sIXsIXs9]

you cant script it any better on the 41st rack!

[@kellingzvolz2936]

2 anh bạn này quá hay một trận đấu tuyệt vời

[@bassinbilliards6279]

Watching the first rack to the last rack shows what pressure does. So fluid to focused on making sure he just gets out.

[@muhammaduraidi9876]

MK😊😊MK

[@muhammaduraidi9876]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 😊

[@muhammaduraidi9876]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 😊

[@muhammaduraidi9876]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 😊 L

[@muhammaduraidi9876]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 😊

[@CosmicGiggleMusic]

Sometimes it feels like Shane let’s his opponents catch up to his lead just to make the game more interesting. What’s the deal with the volume? I gotta set my volume to MAX to hear the commentary, so every time an ad plays it wakes the neighbors

[@PostUp_Time]

*WHY DONT THEY HAVE LONG RACES LIKE THIS ANYMORE? TODAY 8/30/2023. BRUCE SPRINGTEEN PLAYING METLIFE STADIUM IN NJ. 8/30 9/1 9/3/2023. A TIME CAPSULE COMMENT FOR THE FUTURE. WHAT HAPPENED TODAY*

[@mitchervin522]

that last rack was tough..Shane is bad ass

[@sodi4069]

Shane the Goat

[@dennisschell5543]

MORE VOLUME PLEASE!!!

[@EdWong2012]

Small tables, what's going on? Long race on a short table, who's putting this on?

[@fredhugard7444]

My first guess would be poison cues...

[@nevinevi1307]

that is the best match ever well done shane

[@lDROlDl]

Wow that was insane at the end!

[@rynrussell4580]

why does the table look so small

[@NoobZilentGamerTVOfficial]

Ikr it doesnt look like 9ft pool table for me

[@fredhugard7444]

It's a bar box

[@user-lb8do4ew6k]

Maybe they are both particularly tall 🙄

[@silverx4388]

A win by 2 game of pool would be interesting, the thing is the game might actually last forever. Depends on their stamina and I think Shane has more of that.

[@lebavu8260]

Silver X I second that lol

[@napochulo]

3:35:32 "Not bad" is an understatement I would say. Wow..

[@napochulo]

ok well does 33:26 do anything for you?

[@larrycoffey4534]

1:45:30 great vision from thirsty

[@Shoaib1231230]

Amazing Match

[@jmh9801]

Ah, the break will humble you. The balls don't care that you are 20-20 in a race to 21, or that you spent 5 min making a perfect rack, or that you spent more time aiming it than a Z bank shot. I think as experienced as Shane is though (and wound up winning), that he (re)learned a lesson here from the 18-20 game. Looking back at that would be easy 5 ball run out, I could already seeing how he was smiling before that, just feeling a little too comfortable. He came up short on an easy but crucial match winning shot that he didn't put much energy in (mentally or physically). Confidence is great but a little nervous doubt goes a long way to keep you focused. Shane seemed to have lost that (I am sure partly due to his winning both the 8-ball and 10-ball tournaments). Yes, a little too comfortable almost cost him the match.

[@gmariet1391]

I do not like the light green ball colors !

[@cloud9847]

I wish for one time one of these channels that upload pool games would figure out audio controls Holy fucking shit is it annoying to go from not hearing anything to blowing my god damn speakers up.

[@vishybreh]

3:36:03 And the most awkward high five goes to

[@forza-marco]

Shane's look at 1:45:30. "well, that wasnt expected."

[@Pintomenos]

Hey csi add some more ads please!!

[@uyipoq]

Renos Efthimiou Your pfp looks like a mug shot