The Magnus vs. Hans SHOWDOWN in Paris Is OFFICIAL!! | C2 | Ep.67

[@MrKobayashi24]

You guys really dropped the ball by not tuning in to the Hans interview when Fabi mentioned it. Would have been a great reaction video.

[@prcbras]

Christian mentioned he had a class starting soon. But i'm sure they'll talk about it next episode

[@MrKobayashi24]

@@prcbras In the 10 minutes they speculated about the contents, they could have just listened for a few minutes. Also, if it's spicy, god forbid they skip one of the other topics. Christian could have made his appointment on time. In any case, too much structure missed the eye of the tiger for content sometimes.

[@ThePolymathlete]

Fabi the kind of guy to watch a silent interview

[@u.v.s.5583]

The facial expressions of GM Niemann speaks for itself!

[@jashepoon]

Guys premoved the episode

[@seanm3636]

Seriously!

[@turkiekhalid]

😂😂😂

[@macroma]

They did spot all topics 😂😂😂 that was 😂😂😂😂

[@TheMonster10RickSteves]

😂lmao

[@Yiannis-St]

Cmon Man! 40. minutes of Hans talk without talking about THE interview

[@dtbofficial]

Can't believe you guys didn't pause recording and listen to the interview

[@yanlopesteixeira]

exactly my though

[@112233JORDAN]

Sure, but they heard all of it before. Really just a repeat of whats been said

[@TylerOneOneOne]

That would have made their podcast much more interesting. It was only a 30-minute investment.

[@answeris4217]

Probably already knew what Hans was talking about. Dany asked a question and Hans went off the rails. Dany didn't attempt to stop the conversation and Hans was all to willing to speak.

[@kc910]

Everyone isn’t on Hans time. They clearly didn’t have time to do that and get the episode out when they wanted.

[@KappaBoba]

Regarding Peng Bo, i watched a couple of interviews from him. He played a lot of chess in china when he was younger, but stopped to go to university, at the time his coach said he would be around 2400-2500 fide rating. He also said he had a chesscom account with a peak rating of 2800 elo. He didnt play chess in a couple of years and only prepared for 2 days before the tournament started.

[@theowalcott102]

What I've heard is that he is highly competent in Chinese chess and that helps a lot to swap to western chess

[@Young-ep8ik]

This is a fairly normal situation in China in general. Kids pick up a thing that they study really hard, either because they love it or being forced by parents, with the only goal being to be good enough for a top college. Since the standardized test is a one shot opportunity it has a lot of variance. And being exceptional in something is one way to circumvent that.

[@MaximumPrime92]

A missed Chance for a perfect Timing! Waiting until today to record the podcast after the interview and after Magnus made it through :)

[@azctw]

Hey Cristian, you don't have to guess. Pang Bo gave an interview and said he played clubs and went to college and work instead of pursuing chess.

[@courageousknight]

Cristian is an amateur

[@answeris4217]

So I went to watch that Hans interview... it got intense. I think he asked the right questions to get it where it got.

[@FongYukYu]

26:32 Magnus gave Ian 5% odds against Hikaru in his post game interview 💀 Poor Ian, after he played 3 games against Hans for Magnus. I was rooting for their bromance 😂

[@Kimdk87]

I don't think Magnus will ever say anything for bromance reasons. He is always very direct

[@jire9831]

@@Kimdk87 Fabi is very similar to Magnus in that regard. No sugarcoating. I honestly prefer it over fake humility.

[@Kimdk87]

@@jire9831 Who has fake hummility?

[@thomasdequincey5811]

@@FongYukYu Hikaru has gotten to EVERY SCC final. Magnus and Ian being friends doesn't increase Ian's chances against Hikaru.

[@satyamjha9250]

Please listen and react to Hans interview in next podcast, was expecting that from this one from the title of the video!

[@Phymacss]

I hope you can include your reactions after watching the Hans interview for the next episode

[@Tolyadm]

Fabi, these rooks sacrifices against Alireza will be remembered! What a game

[@112233JORDAN]

Damn, I never suspected Danya to be the drama machine behind everything. Yep, makes sense. Props to him for making the chess world interesting.

[@harmevers2661]

Hey guys, love the pod, I always listen to this on spotify, could you please upload the episodes on there as well?

[@hilarycraig5360]

Yes please! I was also sad the last few have not been added to spotify

[@thinboxdictator6720]

Same

[@Phymacss]

Same

[@polasoliman6986]

Such weird timing, if ur releasing an episode how do u not listen first and then comment rather than record simultaneously and ignore it completely

[@user99-we7jj]

You guys should definitely react to the Hans interview!

[@kaivalyashah]

Wow that was quick

[@azctw]

Re: the Fide broadcast, they did have a stellar team with the undisputed #1 Peter Leko and another top commentator in Miro.

[@Najdorfc5]

Best chess podcast💪🏻

[@ra444vlz]

Please upload more often! A pleasure to listen to you guys as always.

[@FongYukYu]

30:05 David's face said a million words when he finally rejoined the broadcast 😂💀 The man had THOUGHTS and he was not sharing it with us!!

[@FongYukYu]

45:55 Is there a video of the 37 board simul?? 👀👀👀

[@stormixgaming8389]

That DGT alternative idea, is something I've been thinking about too. Surely there's a more consistent potential alternative

[@Zwellop]

Aint no way yall premoved the podcast

[@wolflink9000]

Who do they think they are, Hikaru?

[@FongYukYu]

!!! I'm so excited a new episode finally dropped! I needed this yesterday!

[@krybabykev]

Guys you still have a noise coming through the recording please fix it

[@xDEEZKNUGHTZx]

C-Squared covers it all - chess, politics, spider extermination...deathmatches with cats in British phone booths. Never a dull moment! 🍿🤓

[@u.v.s.5583]

Yes, but come the poisonous spider attack and conversation goes off like the space shuttle in the eighties!

[@illum-nati9806]

Is this a Premature attackulation?😅

[@EdenRester]

Yeah it is x)

[@u.v.s.5583]

What did he miss, why were you able to equalize so easily?

[@Michael-jv3rc]

so where's the twitch channel link

[@cuzx1]

There is a background noise. Something to work on for the future.

[@umarabbas3581]

Fabi didn’t even talk about the Alireza match

[@jgreen802]

If I was him I wouldnt wanna talk about it either.

[@peterhardie4151]

Yeah he did talk about it. Spent at least 3 minutes talking about it

[@hanspellegrims]

Friends, you really need to get Fabi the same mic as Cristian. The camera is irrelevant for us KZbin folks, but seriously. The impression is that one of the two Cs takes this seriously and the other one is on Zoom whenever he can be bothered. Spectacular footage throughout otherwise.

[@kc910]

They both sound fine to me. We’re not producing a blockbuster movie here…

[@VirideSoryuLangley]

Magnus should have just accepted the loss. Instead he ruined his own reputation and turned Hans into a superstar.

[@nikhildawani2913]

Whatt😂😂??all are supporting magnus over twitter insta and youtube and trolling hans trash,magnus is already in history books as the Goat,but magnus did a favour to hans but now hans will go in tge history books as yet another trash cheater

[@egjohnson7939]

​@@nikhildawani2913 Except that it was an over-the-board game and Hans won. There wasn't any cheating. The crybaby lost snd... quit. He became the Eric Cartman of modern chess.

[@beo74]

The big problem with the team Rapid and blitz - coverage, was that the commentators tried to follow too many games at once. They kept switching from game to game to game; we as wievers couldn't keep up, and lost interest. They should have picked 3-4 games, and stayed with them. The live-chat were full of people that were just begging for them to return to the big players (i.e. the Magnus games, or others), If you want to make it spectator-friendly, we need to be able to follow the developmwnt on the boards. And for us common chess-watchers; that limit is probably like 3 or 4 boards max in rapid/blitz.

[@macroma]

You cant do 1 hour pause in between games If you wish peoples watch

[@SoLolaDez]

bought the paris tickets weeks ago hoping to see you 😢 but I guess Magnus x Hans match will be an acceptable compensation

[@lfaz4296]

Please girl, that's the tea 😂😂

[@gregg3457]

Thanks guys for the interesting content

[@johnwest7993]

Magnus vs Hans! Paris! The Olympics is only the warm-up act! Next comes THE SHOW!!!

[@manmoth_1990]

I actually think Peter, Irina and Evgeny did a fantastic job commentating, very engaging and informative (as always), but they were short-handed by terrible technology and ridiculous relay problems with the boards. FIDE surely needs to step it up for future events.

[@Phymacss]

I’m thinking how this video would have been different if magnus lost, that was so quick!😂

[@MrSupernova111]

I fully agree with the opportunity for better electronic chess boards. DGT boards are way too expensive for what they do. And for those who don't have a sparring partner they need a better self moving board than what's in the market right now.

[@Navs006]

boys its time to strt considering podcasting as a serious hustle 🗿❤❤

[@davidbarnett8617]

I am a National Master and I definitely use ChessBase.

[@margeshphirke3534]

Bruh what's the point about talking about an interview if you didn't watch it lol. I can't tell if this is a tactic to avoid talking about it, or not but it's kind of lame lol

[@Tar_kat]

Missing on reacting at Hans's interview is such a big blunder. Also Christian is very repulsively narcissistic.

[@bandoytcx]

Hans is the biggest W

[@Five-Star-General]

That dgt board point and broadcast was kind of annoying. They kept switching back and forth for camera dgt and coverage. Didnt even say the results in the last stream

[@kc910]

Regarding DGT, I don’t know for sure but it seems it’s not as much a matter of needing new innovation from a competitor but the need to invest in improving the capacity for the existing product to do what it’s intended to do consistently and seemlessly? Enjoyed the episode as always! Best of luck in STL GCT! 🍀

[@Gangstrs]

Would the Paris tournament be over the board?

[@FongYukYu]

Yes! They're selling tickets, but the ones with live viewing access were sold out as of a few hours ago. They might still have tickets that get you access to the venue, but not the playing area.

[@Phymacss]

It’ll be on computers but they’ll all be together

[@percybyssheshelly]

@@Phymacss Yeah I figured that would be the case. It should be quite a spectacle.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Who is better, Peng or Ding?

[@gasaidjohn3499]

Pang Bo > Carlsen > Ding

[@u.v.s.5583]

@@gasaidjohn3499 Makes sense.

[@ranlit7717]

Brooooo a nice reaction video to Hans’ interview would have been EASY view count +++ You guys gotta have that content creation mentality hahhha. Too pure too simple, but that’s ok, y’all are the best

[@henkdachief]

i only watch because of hans!

[@SanjayKumar-n8h3s]

These guys want to comment on the interview without alluding to it

[@thomasdequincey5811]

@@SanjayKumar-n8h3s What??? They played a clip from the interview! They talked about the interview. How is that not alluding to the interview? You shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of.

[@egjohnson7939]

Maybe a crybaby shouldn't quit the Sinquefield Cup after a loss.

[@uditsharma29]

We want review of Hans interview!

[@Heygujvff]

Could have at least listened to the Hans interview before making this clickbate bs

[@kc910]

Not even remotely close to clickbait.

[@SurprisedAnglerfish-nq9sg]

They recorded this before the Hans interview…. lol

[@thomasdequincey5811]

@@Heygujvff I'm not certain you know what "clickbait" means.

[@davidmasse2829]

Who on earth gets an over the board rating of 1400 to start out??? Come on man! It isn’t that damn easy to get to 1400 over the board.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

It's the new bottom for fide,so not that hard. You should check your fide rating once in a while.

[@MrSupernova111]

I got 1400 within 2-3 months after my first otb game. I had been playing casual chess online on and off for a year with no formal training whatsoever. No books, no coaches, no courses, nothing other than watching a couple of different chess youtubers review gm games. This was pre covid.

[@davidmasse2829]

@@MrSupernova111 getting it and sustaining it over the board are two different matters entirely.

[@davidmasse2829]

@@thinboxdictator6720 I don’t have a FIDE

[@MrSupernova111]

@@davidmasse2829 . I agree. I don't have FIDE either since I live in the USA. My otb rating jumped to 1600+ within 6 months of my first otb game when I was rated about 1000. I wasn't working at the time so that definitely helped. I took a 6 year otb break and only recently got back to otb. So far up about 100 points and hoping to at least break 1900 by the end of the year. My goal is to earn an NM title someday - at least CM (uscf). Anything is possible if you work hard enough. Cheers!

[@Kimdk87]

I love Hans

[@iceninja9040]

Would they have deleted the video if Magnus lost? Or just edited because this came out the minute he won

[@thinboxdictator6720]

Or if squirrels took over

[@michaelf8221]

They were going to upload this episode regardless. Clearly, they just changed the title at the last minute once they saw that Magnus - Hans is happening.

[@davidbarnett8617]

Wesley So had a proctor and I think it negatively affected his performance.

[@u.v.s.5583]

To be fair, HMN probably had an extended session of colonoscopy before the match.

[@chesswithsamarth1004]

Faster than Hikaru

[@rtheben]

there is a possibility that magnus loses on purpose not to play Hans. is that too much to think?

[@FarCrySource]

When you have an unrated player to complete in a U2000 category its called cheating. Its legal but it's unethical and unfair. FIDE must change the rules period. Only rated players must be allowed to compete in these events. That's my take. And Ju wenjun said they have a secret weapon. Everything was planned. Bending the rules only shows disrespect to FIDE and the other players and teams.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

So which categories of tournaments would you say unrated players can join?

[@FarCrySource]

@@thinboxdictator6720 any category based on the guess the ELO evaluation. That's why the ELO measure is so good. It's a very close approximate of the truth. Because it's not that he hasn't played any tournaments. He hasn't played fide rated tournaments. And he has also played a lot online.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

@@FarCrySource I understand that you're thinking about this specific case. Maybe it could be applicable to that one situation,fine. but it's not realistic for applying in general. online doesn't count and shouldn't count,for otb. those are just different animals. as for when they are rated in their national federation but not for fide,there would have to be some equation for every specific federation to approximate their fide strength,to get them to "correct" category. like USCF - 200 or something like that,but even that would be just a rough guess (and it might be different after the recent fide ratings

[@FarCrySource]

@@thinboxdictator6720 btw hybrid tournaments count for fide ratings, just to clarify this.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

@@FarCrySource Your point? Are you addressing the "online and otb shouldn't mix"? Obviously when there is requirement to be somewhere physically,playing under supervision on specific accounts in specific time, that's a bit different than what is usually meant by "playing online", don't you think? Yea it's weird outlier, but you seem to think that special cases somehow prove something wrong in general. My point was, that there is no way to reliably check what specific player is studying,on which accounts they're playing,what coaching they're getting .. online. People are already playing on multiple accounts on multiple platforms,so if they want to play in weaker category than their strength, it wouldn't be hard to show "low performance" account anyway. On top of that,when you're playing otb tournaments,you really don't want people to know your online account, because that makes prep against you easier,so one more reason to not give chess federation account you're actually using. That's one of reasons why it's unreasonable to ask from any chess organisation to use online performance of unrated player, to get them to play category that is around their strength. Unrated was always included in the lowest category in a tournament, because that's where it fits in general.

[@umitkutlubay9834]

Cristian, you should fix backround voice. İt iş really annoying

[@apostle-of-attack]

Hans's section was very disappointing. You can't spend 30 minutes to watch the thing but had time to talk about it for ten minutes?

[@haggaisimon7748]

This drama is so beneficial for chess's popularity among many people. People usually love such cheap dramas. Me in particular:).

[@thomasdequincey5811]

Hans never shuts up. It's incredibly tiresome.

[@8964TS]

'Pang Bo' is pronounced more like 'Pung Bore'.

[@mattchess356]

The board exists. Chessnut.

[@alexreeve1346]

1400 is the rating you get when you first start playing chess…. Oh cheers Christian!

[@simonkim8646]

Everyone commenting that they should have tuned into the hans interview mid-podcast don't know what hindsight is. Nobody knew that hans was gonna go off like he did. Imagine they just sat through a dull cookie-cutter interview

[@searsino]

It’s wild when people try to sit on the fence around what Magnus did to Hans. If you want to know how bad it is, just watch how most people in the industry who won’t even call Magnus out for his despicable behavior. It’s absurd that everyone won’t address what was said in that interview. And this is exactly why Magnus got away with doing what he did. He’s treated like an untouchable god. HOW IS NOBODY ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT MAGNUS TURNWD AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON A TEENAGER WHO BULLIED AND SMEARED HIS CHARACTER. Even here you guys are clearly not willing to call out the nepotism going on here. Do better.

[@searsino]

Yea I’m out. It’s so despicable you won’t even address what the content of the interview is. This is why that stuff happened to Hans. You are too scared to talk about what Magnus did. Clearly.

[@davidbarnett8617]

Hans is an admitted cheater and found to have cheated more times. Niemann has soiled the chess world. Now, Hans acts like a sociopath. I can certainly understand why Magnus wants nothing to do with a petulant child. Carlsen will crush him in Paris.

[@searsino]

@@davidbarnett8617 my response was removed because I called you a mean name. You have no facts or evidence for any of what you are saying. Zero. And to condone bullying on the scale Magnus created is a terrible look. By the way, are we just going to pretend that Magnus hadn’t lost a match just prior to causing all of this? You think that’s purely a coincidence and the logical reason is Magnus wanted to expose cheating in chess lol. Surely not him being heated and losing his cool so he cries foul play after losing a game against Hans. Which by the way, Magnus emotions are understandable because of the deity status people like yourself see and treat him as. It’s a lot of pressure. The issue is that he took advantage of having blind fools like you who will say anything without context or evidence and condone the bullying and hate which ruined a teenage boys life. Hans was forced to endure mass harassment and hate, of which none is warranted and entirely are based on lies, and was even blackballed from tournaments. He has never cheated otb or otherwise and to try claiming that a 16 year old version of him who made mistakes should be crucified and removed from the community is absurd. But what really bothers me is you seems to think Hans would have no reason to act out or seem like he’s a bad guy. How would you behave to a public that has thrown you aside and labeled you a cheater for some online games you did at 16. Would you come across as a nice guy when the entire community makes anal bead and personality judgements on you any time your name is brought up? You think you would handle dealing with that for years in a community you spent your life working and honing a skill, a community that then jumped on a bandwagon of false allegations, simply thrown to the wolves. Would you seem like a compassionate nice person in interviews from that same community during such a situation? Such ridiculous claims by Magnus and such an awful interpretation by you. Grow up.

[@jgreen802]

​@@davidbarnett8617you realize Hans cheated as a child right? They didn't decide to crucify him for it to until he beat Magnus like 5 years later.

[@davidbarnett8617]

@@jgreen802 You should be made aware that he cheated more than 100 times at least until 2020. That was just four years ago. You can dismiss him as just a child and you can continue to support a sociopath but it will always be true he cheated at chess and deprived honest chess players of rating and money.

[@bamdad19996]

No offense to fabi but you are not even close to alireza in bullet. He was literally sleeping cause he was gonna win regardless.

[@nnandogg]

long live Pang Bo!

[@vapingtom7189]

It would be better if you had seen an interview before you talk about it. It's pointless like this. I would have expected better from you.

[@issiesttv6860]

Guy's your video has a weird hissing sound !!!

[@u.v.s.5583]

Must be the snakes from the evil chess mafia!

[@ioancosma5075]

Magnus did not want to show he's preparation and Hans to exploit it 🤣 so now will be much more harder for Hans... Magnus did it whit Hikaru and Hikaru admitted that was a big mistake to accept that.. Magnus was very clever and sneaky 🤣 and he will not do that whit Hans even if it's one match...

[@confesorvalentin3687]

If karma is a real thing Hans Niemann will beat Magnus Carlsen and cement his name in chess history..

[@bharlesCabbage]

Uzbekistan captain for the olympiad is.... Vladimir Kramnik? 🤣

[@bluecloud6437]

any chance magnus has something against americans? I saw one vid where I felt he went out of his way to criticize bobby fischer, possibly bc many think he is the goat over mangus....pure speculation from me

[@nikhildawani2913]

Lol whatt??if you are talking about real Goat then it is Magnus,fischer is nothing but bug against magnus but If you are talking about wannabe or fake goat then it is fischer

[@bluecloud6437]

@@nikhildawani2913 well even magnus said he considers kasparov the goat over himself due to longevity. and by one year peak adjusted for relative elo bobby fischer is the best ever. my goat is tal bc i care more for creativity and artistry, but by that same metric fischer is much greater than magnus, but so would be, dubov for example, so it's not really a goat metric as much as subjective preference. that said, i think you and I are both right, fischer is way better than magnus

[@nikhildawani2913]

@@bluecloud6437 first of tal and fischer are not even in the discussion of all time great,both are overrated as he'll,and are you noob 20iq brainless kid???hikaru,vishy,kasparov and stats agree that magnus is the Goat that's it ,don't try to be oversmart by acting you know better than hikaru,levy vishy,and kasparov so just shut up

[@Phymacss]

@@nikhildawani2913bruh there’s something called having an opinion, it’s subjective!

[@heatwaves-glassanimals]

Dropped fast

[@Dr7Mac]

Hou Yifan is still the strongest female chess player, by a mile.

[@19372012]

why are they always talking about things when they know nothing about it? at least google it once before recording fucking hell

[@AhmadHashmi-n5c]

Bruh maybe first watch the interview and after that talk about it

[@paulsaglier5194]

I understand you wanted to drop your episode as quickly as possible once the final stage was set, but you talking about an itw you didn't listen to is a bit lame and pretty cheap. Sorry to say, big fan otherwise! :)

[@imeprezime1285]

Vidit is better than Quickamura and Quickamura is better than you ( in classical)

[@thinboxdictator6720]

Hans clip was hilarious

[@rsr22.3]

Did you actually listen to the interview before sniggering about the time of the interview to appease your egos? Just shows that humility doesn’t come easy.

[@eudesgeoffroy8416]

How is cheater niemann even allowed to play...

[@michaeloconnor6264]

Hans playing well,Anish not

[@t00mgoos]

respectfully if you think ian is beating hikaru in a 20 game blitz format at a 35%. then..... that sun-tan may have gone to your head 😂its probably more like 90% hikaru

[@nobelkamberi1829]

That's so true. Lol. I think 10%, 15% at most for Ian. Magnus in his interview only gave Ian a 5% chance.

[@brendanpolk6038]

Sup

[@Threesixteen3]

hans is insufferable. he entirely brought all thsi on himself.

[@Blue-sn7qm]

Cristian please stop drinking on the pod. It feels really nasty to hear you gulp!

[@Micleprechuan]

Let daddy gulp in peace :(

You could try researching a bit before recording bunch of missinformations and random thoughts...

[@petardiranirafali]

fake

[@MrGaryStaples]

How does a 2600 player spend 5 seconds searching for the word “position” to describe the position of pieces on the board when my 800 rated brain is screaming position the whole time?

[@Leipaa]

How would you say it in Romanian?

[@MrGeri98]

First? Maybe?

[@iamthemoney007]

28:30 crazy to say that when u lost even terribly to magnus magnus vs arjun-> 12:9 magnus vs fabi(2022/23 scc)-> 22:4

[@TyronGarbin]

Dont fight a cheater