Best Big Boys Bout #5 Vorazun | Starcraft II: Co-Op

[@jingxuanwang8674]

Void Rays and Immortals seems pretty fair to me.

[@vahidmoosavian6313]

Great video. And I believe the immortal/void ray damage does count. It's an extension of DA's power. Also, on power selection, I think pylon range would've been better. You only need to cast confusion at start and near end of Blackhole for maximum effdct, so not much change with extra time; and pylon range would've made energy regen and emergency recall much more viable.

[@benignsentient6772]

I would definitely count void rays and immortals. In a way, it's like counting a carrier's interceptors. They are an extension of the dark archon, an extension of their ability. Otherwise, I feel like we're not measuring the unit's true score if we don't fully count the unit's abilities.

[@benignsentient6772]

The same would go for the idea of counting a carrier's interceptors as losses, when it comes to counting mind controlled units as losses. Does it really count as a loss if the cost was 0/0 and it's a unit of fodder between the dark archon and it's enemy?

[@ryanmuirhead7832]

This was my favorite video in a bit. Would love to see more of the lesser used prestiges. Good work

[@lixnix2018]

Units controlled by Dark Arcons should count no matter which unit controlled

[@mateusinhogameplays2319]

I think you should count the damage dealt by all mind control units because they only attack because of dark archon

[@user-pr6jx5hz9m]

This was a really great video, I love the strategy of using Strike from the Shadows to knock down the rocks with Probes faster I'm definitely going to use that! One thing different that I wonder is Black Hole Mastery vs Dark Pylon range given that you make extensive use of offensive Dark Pylons and extending there range somewhat would make it easier to fight inside their range and actually fit your large Death blob. In contrast, 8 seconds of Black Hole would be enough if you are careful to chain the second Confusion before the Black Hole expires (would give 240-260 damage). Alternatively, splitting 15/15 would let you chain 2 full duration Confusions while still giving a nice area boost to Dark Pylon. It's also weird to me that you use a Cyber Core wall when Gateway wall is cheaper (and provides Warp ins) and Forge wall is cheaper and has more health/shields. Finally, I saw Plasma Shields level 3 but no Weapon upgrades, surely Weapon upgrades are worthwhile as I'm pretty sure Forge upgrades apply to possessed Protoss units (an Immortal can be seen at 12:34 with 1 Shield upgrade) as well as your Dark Archons of course (who go from 13.5 to 18 splash damage which is really good when combined with Black Hole)?

[@Mystyx-Sama]

I'll never forgive Blizzard for not making Dark Archons a thing in multiplayer, same goes for the Twilight Archon that never was. So much of the co-op units could have helped make VS multiplayer that much more fun, but w/e I guess. Great vid as always, dude!

[@mateusinhogameplays2319]

But I don't think should count looses, cause' they are amons units, you basically kill them without damaging so its reducing the possible damage in exchange of increasing survivability

[@Aburacrat]

I like Dark Archons a little too much. I treat the game like a shopping trip with Amon's units and keep rallying my new friends back to somewhere defensive. I Think my personal best run ended with around 350 supply sitting around the expansion on Miner Evac.

[@allenbocephus]

I kinda feel like it would be OK to count all mind controlled enemies toward your kills and damage since they are only available because of the archon ability. I guess to many wet blankets would be upset about it though... 🤷‍♂️

[@JulioST05]

I love that prestige, Its a lot of fun to use

[@ThisIsntAYoutuber]

13:10 I don’t see why you couldn’t count the Banelings. P2 prevents the production of free Banelings, and Zagara’s Baneling Barrage is counted separately, so it is very easy to discern how much damage Aberration-spawned Banelings did that game. You didn’t actually manually make Banelings that game did you? Likewise, you should count the damage done by mind controlled units by DAs.

[@darthvocrum5719]

By far the funniest one to play

[@jjolley3474]

Which Vorazun prestige do you think is the best?

[@BladeWinters]

It's archon time proper