YOU CAME THROUGH!!! The Rosette of Many Colors

[@aradani3]

No better way to start my morning, than looking at all this beauty! Cuiv: "I need to get into Spectrophotometric Color Calibration" Me: " I need to get into Pixinsight!" LOL

[@PaulymanAstro]

Amazing to see all the interpretations. Thanks for the shout out, thanks for the data and thanks for the challengeZ

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for your work! It was really super interesting!!

[@DeepSpaceAstro]

This was fun Cuiv! Thanks for putting it together!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lukomatico]

This was phenomenal to see! SO many different interpretations of the data, what a great response from your community bud! 😀 Clear skies!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It's really, really interesting! I'm floored by the variety of results!

[@deep_space_dave]

Hey Cuiv! Before I forget, I got a monitor calibrator for Christmas and it seems to work great! My colors on my monitor match my phone and other devices now. There are a lot of popular ones on Amazon. Thanks for the video and amazing work everyone has done👍. Clear Skies!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thank you! I guess I need to get to it then :-)

[@MazzifLOL]

Thanks for sharing your data and the results from the community. What a neat project!!!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for your contribution Mazzif!

[@gregorybchapman]

You're right, so many different results from similar processes. I can't even produce the same result twice. However, every time I work on this piece of data (I'm working only from the RGB file) I find myself thrilled with the quality of the data despite the gradient!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks Greg!! I think it's the magic of Hyperstar + Narrowband!

[@siegfriednoet]

Great video Quiv, very interesting to see all those different results and the two last images were very beautiful but the Markus image is out of this world, absolutely stunning processing work he did there. About the different color on different devices, well I've been working with color profiles for a lot of years now and would give you the following advice. - Be sure the monitor that you use for processing is calibrated, I use EIZO monitors but you can use any monitor if it is calibrated, so go for a Datacolor SpyderX Pro for calibrating your monitor, very good for its price. - If you have finished the complete processing of an image and you want to share it on the internet, than make sure you save it as an sRGB Jpeg file with integrated color profile, that is absolutely important for seeing the image the same in every browser. Keep up the great work Quiv, and I must say that your own processed image was really good !

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for the advice!! I'll definitely look into the calibrator!

[@fabricelamidey8539]

This is absolutely awesome. What a great idea you had Cuiv and what a great response from the community I would be interested to get more details from the processing of Gianmaria Raboini, it is absolutely stunning.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Noted, I'll look into it when I have time;

[@AstroQuest1]

Very cool and informative video plus you have a lot of informative information for yourself - good thing you have a lot time on your hands to sift through it. I am very happy to learn other people start in PI then bring it into PS and then bring it back into PI as I do that regularly. I know in the back of my mind that it is not efficient but I am comfortable doing it. I hope you do a video on photometric color calibration and/or the new version as I have never gotten it to work - it is most likely me doing something wrong so I never bother with it. Cheers Kurt

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks Kurt! Yep, I myself need to get SPCC to work :p

[@IceyJones]

would be great to make a workflow compendium for the different approaches

[@ChristianPsencik]

Wow these are all really stunning. A lazy geek discord server would be awesome!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'll definitely think about it!

[@southbronxny5727]

That PixInsight gets expensive after adding those extras....about $500 or more..

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah, I know... Still it's the one tool that I've kept using across all those year, probably more than any given piece of gear...

[@fulatoro]

Would be great to see the Markus Stein processing steps…The image is breathtaking.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Noted!

[@tymek9832]

In my opinion Cuiv did it much better

[@actudoran]

I got a challenge 😹 one that should be useful for the likes of us who haven't yet jumped the gun on Pixinsight.... process the data with Siril and Gimp ... and make a tutorial about it ... should at least be challenging :D but also highly valuable for the community! I hope

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Will be a lot of learning for me first :-(

[@actudoran]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I know... wasn't really directed at you but rather at community level to come up with a walkthrough for non PI users that can produce seemingly comparable results sans having to pay the price of a small scope for software it is rather clear that by the time you get PI and all the RC astro add-ons plus a PS licence ... one might end up with a nice travel rig 🙂

[@AlanJames]

Many thanks to all who processed this data and submitted their results. It really shows how much detail can be revealed in by working with the data, it's not always about buying a fancier telescope sometimes you just have to understand the data. Also thanks to Cuiv for being lazy enough to get other people to do the image processing for him :)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I just love being lazy lol

[@makrospex]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Laziness is not a flaw, it's a lifestyle ;)

[@elbass0]

You're awesome Cuiv. Nuf said.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha thank you!

[@User1dentification]

Regarding calibration of Monitors you can either buy an EIZO Monitor they are great for enjoing true coler, or try to fine tune your monitor using the SpyderX tool but your color range is limited depending on you monitor.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks! Yeah I guess at some point I should bite the bullet...

[@gianmariaraboini7952]

Hello Cuiv. I'm honored that you included my version in your video. Thanks again for sharing your data. If you are interested in my workflow I can gladly share it in the channel.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks so much Gianmaria!! When I have the time I'll reach out :-)

[@gianmariaraboini7952]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek hi Cuiv, can I publish the photo on my facebook page? thank you

[@peterlaubscher3989]

Love the image produced by Markus Stein.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It's really good!

[@markmayer9290]

Great presentation and for me really liberating! I've played with different color palettes in the past, and of course I know its false color, but I always felt guilty about distorting reality. Now, inspired by the great images shown here, I can go wild and not worry! One thing it would be interesting to know is how well Graxpert does on the gradient compared to hours spent working with DBE. Has anyone tried?

[@andy_bickley]

I think discord is a good way to share the knowledge in your community.

[@anata5127]

Hebert, Stein, Lewis, Raboini and Cuiv are the best. They show more details and dynamic range.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Always really hard to find a good compromise!

[@anata5127]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Yes, very tough for SHO images. So, I mainly selected by details and dynamic range, not colors. I especially liked Lewis’s picture.

[@gunnarjensen5910]

Mine was much darker. Zwo533MC, 85x5 -10 minute subs.. Excellent guiding. No idea how to extract such excellent colors..

[@josephwonsetler4981]

I'm not criticizing anyone's work. It is breathtaking. The elephant in the room is this question. With so many renditions, what do these objects look like, that is, how close do they come to Hubble, probably likely humankinds best, most accurate attempt at dodging all the limitations physics imposes? Is there a video needed to attempt to address that question? Something that breaks down the choices amateurs need to make and accept regarding budget for equipment and software, seeing conditions including sky, temperature and latitude and the individuals personal situation. E.G. I'm 71 and hoped to get a simpler telescope for visual astronomy. Too cataract surgeries and the fact my astigmatism requiring glasses and the challenge of eye relief, I decided that EAA my be my best opportunity to approach my goals after a 55 yr hiatus. Budget was an issue on a fixed income. For me, the Dwarf II looks very promising given my aforementioned limitations. Ordered it in December. Looking forward to the opportunity, better understanding the cans and cannots to better appreciate the hard work you all do to capture the known universe. Cuiv, thanks for your help inclusive of the entire community of observers. 👍

[@josephwonsetler4981]

Apologize for my typing errors.😳

[@mst-astro2820]

Hello Cuiv, first of all I want to thank you for sharing your data with us. I'm honored that you like my version of your picture. And off course - you can share my workflow to all other. Best regards Markus Stein

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks so much Markus!

[@MatthewHolevinski]

I need a reducer... That rosette would be like a 48 panel mosaic for me :(

[@actudoran]

haha ... i know how you feel 😂

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

But so much more details!

[@golfbiker100]

Hugs, best ever episode

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thank you!

[@nikaxstrophotography]

Was a great video Cuiv, one thing don't use a discord server I find it so 1990's in interface

[@marklowry4431]

For color on different monitors, maybe invest in a color calibrator (monitor calibration tool)? Something like the Datacolor Spyder? I think that a Goggle Pixel phone can also calibrate monitors with an app. I've heard that it helps making sure things look similar across monitors.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Oooh my phone is a Pixel, I'll check apps!

[@marklowry4431]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I saw it a couple years ago for the Pixel, but can't seem to find on the play store now. I found this one: "Camera Colorimeter" by Auralisoft But, I'm not sure how good it is. You need to buy a $2 program on Windows to use it though. A lot of the reviewers got mad because they didn't know they had to pay for a separate program, but some people found it useful. A dedicated colorimeter would probably be a lot better, but they are more expensive (probably around 100 USD).

[@xee1429]

Hey Cuiv, do i have your permission to post the 2 images I processed with your data on my astrobin account?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Of course!

[@xee1429]

Thanks cuiv 🙏🙏🙏

[@IndigoDVW]

Is not your many results on the Rosette really 'Astro Art' rather than 'Astro Photography' which should be a true representation of the nebula or any astro subject? After all we don;t take photos of people etc and give them strange colours. What is the 'true' colour of the Rosette Nebula?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Check Dr Becky's video on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5XQmoaVa76lfbc They're all true representations of the nebula that allow to represent details based on very specific emissions :)

[@IndigoDVW]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks Cuiv... A very informative video.

[@WhooptieDo]

Look Ma! I'm on TV!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Woohoo!

[@tommyozzy317]

Its something how in this hobby editing can make a really good image. Unfortunately its the part i enjoy the least. Been working on my own Rosette for over a month now. Get a good result, go back and re-edit and get a better result. Then i think the previous one looks awful.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'm in a very similar situation...

[@KMuffel]

The Photoshop part would bei Interessentin

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep! I've just never used Photoshop in my life!