Cult Expert details Jehovah Witness cult like activities

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University of Shawn Ryan

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@BoogimanBoogiman Ай бұрын

This religion has destroyed so many lives. The stress as a kid is very harmful.

@96t5wagon Ай бұрын

I completely agree

@sunneekee854 Ай бұрын

I so agree

@skippy1012 Ай бұрын

💯 agree

@sarahbelyeu6461 Ай бұрын

Absolutely

@nathanhaines1721 Ай бұрын

Yup

@dwttexjw4796 Ай бұрын

Make no mistake about it- THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE VERY MUCH STILL A CULT.

@SmalltimR Ай бұрын

It makes sense actually, and as we conclude Jesus was a cult leader by definition, then so-too would his followers - it's just simple really

@robertgrey6101 Ай бұрын

@dwttexjw STILL a CULT, always were and always will be.

@guido0412 Ай бұрын

@@SmalltimR well Jesus never employed the methods the governing body does and the freedom of conscience and salvation you find in Christian teachings are not present in the teachings of JWs. Being myself a JW I used this same kind of arguments towards people from the „world“

@SmalltimR Ай бұрын

@@guido0412 haha, talk about bunch of babbling nonsense lol

@Eric_01 Ай бұрын

@@guido0412 FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE????!! Wow.

@nickking8994 Ай бұрын

I was one for 30 years. 4th generation, left 23 years ago and never looked back. Was a cult then, still a cult now.

@svenwaddell Ай бұрын

Truth!

@maddog46 Ай бұрын

Thanks for getting out and welcome home.

@fadetoexadam182 23 күн бұрын

Absolutely. Cults don’t need a single personality at the top to still be a high control destructive group.

@jenniferm6141 Ай бұрын

I was born in 3rd generation on both sides. When my parents started to skip more meetings, the elders pulled my dad aside. The elders told my dad he was a bad head of household because we were not regular in attendance and barely went out door to door. Once they did that to them, we maybe went once a year to the memorial. Eventually the once a year turned into not going at all. Well one side of the family soft shunned us which meant they called maybe yearly to see how we were doing. The other side completely cut us off. I was close to my maternal side that completely cut us off. My parents never committed anything to get them kicked out or disfellowshipped. My parents were just fed up being on the hamster wheel for this PUBLISHING / REAL ESTATE COMPANY and didn’t want to be told what to do anymore. Well their children were shunned as a result. I grew up without extended family. Decades later my grandmother passed about a week ago. All I got was a speaker phone call while she unconscious already in hospice care. I loved my grandmother very much and this CULT SCAM took her away and that is what I was left getting. RUN FAST FROM THIS CULT!

@serafin1352 Ай бұрын

ExJw here. I can 100% tell you this is spot on! I have been shunned since 2018 for confession of sins and openly disagreeing with doctrine and not believing in their governing body. My own mother and daughter shun me. I will tell you it is very destructive to the family unit! They should be held accountable

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I know personally I didnt learn a lot about the JW as a youth. This video has helped with a lot of people commenting their own experience. I think this guest was honest from his own perspective.

@majecal1818 Ай бұрын

Other countries are removing their religious tax free monies and is the main reason they have recently changed the use of the word "disfellowshiped" to "removed'" but its the same action taken if one decides to leave JWs.

@Whatsnexttex Ай бұрын

They need to be dragged through the courts !

@Eric-iq1tg Ай бұрын

Sounds like your upset and are giving up eternal life.

@Eric-iq1tg Ай бұрын

Forcing blood on children… sounds like satans master plan to me. Every Christian knows we don’t actually die we just RIP. Silly heathens.

@ramluma Ай бұрын

I am glad many Jehovah's Witnesses are commenting. If at least one leaves this evil cult, it is a blessing.

@juteandolive Ай бұрын

It’s interesting that they are even watching this, no?

@trailtreker7002 25 күн бұрын

@@juteandolive The Ones inside the Organization are " comfortable " , its the ones who uncover the dirt of The Organization since 2000 , and how manipulative they are in covering it up , make it criminal to stay in .... they cant take the hypocrisy any more .

@trailtreker7002 25 күн бұрын

And the witnessing message .....That's what gets damaged , as there are still those who haven't heard the message of Christs Kingdom .

@Hallel-o-jah 22 күн бұрын

@@trailtreker7002 These are just Satan’s way of stopping the preaching works of Jehovah’s faithful Witnesses. Things like these are already expected, the Witnesses had been warned by no less than Jesus Christ. Of course it is Jehovah who is fighting for this faithful worshipers. And they are winning without lifting any finger at all. These critics and apostates have no clue the Witnesses continue to grow. Contrary to their expectations and assumptions. It is Jehovah who promised He will speed up everything in His own time. Probably this is the time.

@Eric-iq1tg 21 күн бұрын

@@Hallel-o-jah it’s true. People that hate JWs are letting the demons influence their standing with God

@rowdyredneck09 Ай бұрын

As one who has been shunned by JWs for over 27 years, let me assure you that when you disassociate you are in fact shunned as if you were disfellowshipped. We are hated and shunned worse than anyone thrown out for sin because we left loathing the organization's failed prophecies and spiritual abuse, not due to self-loathing. if someone tries to fade away without disassociating the elders harass them looking for a sin to throw them out for. There is no honorable way to escape this cult. Celebrity JWs like Michael Jackson and Serena Williams get special soft treatment due to green privilege.

@user-lo4wl6wd7f Ай бұрын

@rowdyredneck09 Yes, green privilege and marketing.

@juteandolive Ай бұрын

Exactly, my mom used to require me to send her an allowance when I first started to leave. I went away to college, which she didn’t agree with, but in the same year that I graduated HS a watchtower came out saying it was ok to go to college, so she was able to save face with her congregation. She always told me that Jehovah can bless you through wicked people. Basically saying she was free to use me in all my worldliness and shun me at will.

@guido0412 Ай бұрын

Well I am a lawyer, I was an elder several years and grew up as a JW. I left because of the negative psychological impact I saw on the members and the worship brought to the governing body. The JWs are definitively a cult and being an evangelical Christian now I can say that there are huge differences in being a member of a normal church or the JWs. It is good to see how experts from the outside detail the negative effects the JW cult has.

@kdrazalotg-usa6345 Ай бұрын

Good for you! Happy for you!😊

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Ай бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Ай бұрын

@phoenixrising7397 Ай бұрын

Yup. They are a horrible cult

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment and insight. I didn't know a lot about JW until I got older.

@newdawnfades263 Ай бұрын

If you think this is not a high control, damaging cult, then you’ve either been speaking to the wrong people, or watchtower is now paying for podcast advertisements. Here’s a solid guide to identifying a cult, and JW hits EVERY SINGLE ONE. Identifying whether an organization is a cult involves looking at its practices, leadership, and the impact it has on its members. Here are some key signs to watch out for: 1. Authoritarian Leadership • Charismatic or authoritarian leader: The leader is often seen as infallible or above criticism. This is the governing body to a tee. • Centralized power: Decisions are made solely by the leader or a small inner circle. 2. Extreme Devotion and Obedience • Members show unquestioning commitment to the leader or the organization’s ideals. • Dissent or questioning is discouraged or punished. 3. Isolation and Control • Members are encouraged to cut ties with family, friends, or anyone outside the group. • Social, financial, and sometimes physical isolation are used to maintain control. 4. Us vs. Them Mentality • The group portrays itself as the only “truth” and sees outsiders as enemies or inferior. • Fear of outsiders is often instilled to keep members loyal. 5. Exploitation of Members • Members are pressured to give money, possessions, or time far beyond reasonable levels. • Unpaid labor or other exploitative practices are common. 6. Manipulative Practices • Love bombing: Excessive attention and flattery to recruit and retain members. • Shame or guilt: Used to manipulate behavior and enforce conformity. • Fear: Threats of punishment, social exclusion, or spiritual damnation for leaving. 7. Suppression of Individuality • Members are expected to conform in dress, behavior, and thought. • Personal goals and desires are often seen as selfish or unimportant. 8. Harmful Impact on Members • Members often experience mental, emotional, or physical harm, such as burnout or psychological distress. • Ex-members frequently report trauma or difficulty reintegrating into society. How to Investigate Further • Look for transparency: Legitimate organizations are open about their finances, practices, and leadership. • Research testimonials: Compare accounts from current and former members. • Assess the exit process: Cults often make leaving difficult, while healthy groups allow members to come and go freely.

@Niafuerte1828 Ай бұрын

💯

@iyesis Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly! Although they said truth the title is completely wrong.

@PixieDustedTara 26 күн бұрын

You hit the nail on the head!!!

@ItsAllAShow 16 күн бұрын

Yes!! All of this!!

@chasewhatmatters8730 Ай бұрын

I grew up in this cult (it is still very much a cult) and when I escaped I did not get disfellowshipped or disassociate, yet I am shunned by my entire family. People who leave almost always get shunned, at least to some extent. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

@misterdoctor9693 Ай бұрын

I also didn't get disfellowshipped or disassociate. All that was needed for shunning was for me to not believe the same thing as them.

@phillipsugwas Ай бұрын

The actual content of their beliefs is so patently unsupported by scripture, or history it boggles the mind that anyone could choose to join them. Let alone remain. No one who follows Jesus in this life will ever be alone...

@kdrazalotg-usa6345 Ай бұрын

The rules change but are still very controlling. Now, if you disassociate like MJ did, you WILL be shunned.

@donnyetta Ай бұрын

True Karen. I tell you - When i handed the congregation secretary my letter of resignation (at his door 😀) it felt like chains were dropping off me as I walked away 🥳🥳🥳 God is good. Take care 💝

@96t5wagon Ай бұрын

@@donnyettaso glad you made it out! ❤

@jean-b496 Ай бұрын

Michael Jackson was never baptized so technically as a Jehovah witness you can still talk to him, and there is no shunning.

@OhioPIMO Ай бұрын

@@jean-b496 I'm pretty sure you will be swiftly removed from the congregation if you told the elders you had a convo with MJ, considering he's dead.

@donnyetta Ай бұрын

@@jean-b496 He is dead.

@YKAEYA Ай бұрын

Happy to say I know well over 100 people that have left this religion over the last 3 years. Being middle aged and loosing all of your ‘friends’/acquaintances for just stopping attendance is how this religion puts so much fear into its members. Jesus once said my load is light and easy…but there’s nothing east about being or leaving the JW’s

@decodynamo Ай бұрын

Well said. They keep you so busy so you won't have time to think about anything else. Covid shook a lot of people awake.

@jackiepowell7513 Ай бұрын

My yoke is easy, my burden is light. Nope in cults.

@markbody222 Ай бұрын

You can even be shunned even if not disfellowshipped by some who think you are not spiritual enough by their own standards. There is only one way to leave and that is to slowly disappear usually using health issues or something like. Any celebrity cannot do that, they must have special treatment (perhaps for fear of bad publicity) and then there are those still in who can do things that the average one can't for the same reasons.

@Jpfisho82 Ай бұрын

Extremely judgmental people

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

I was years soft shunned, so its real thing. Now I´m fully shunned my mom is also shunning me. I was step back and living JW only by paper, but its not real freedom, you still need to be careful what you do and hope other JWs dont see you doing sins. It was half life. I wish I would leave early.

@kdrazalotg-usa6345 Ай бұрын

I think this expert knows a lot about JWs, but I think he would change his thinking to “YES IT IS A CULT” if he saw all the propaganda and fear mongering and things they do to control what you think, who you ARE, changing you from an individual to all having the same beliefs and they are told to obey the leaders within the congregation, and anyone in authority according to the leaders at the very top. They keep saying to “obey even if it doesn’t appear practical in a human standpoint” “ doesn’t seem to make sense.” They recently keep telling people that it’s not good for them (old ones especially) to not be dwelling on memories of past good times. (I’m trying to think of the word, but it’s like fondly looking back, maybe wishing now was like “the good old times.” .) I’m sure it’s because the old ones are thinking how crazy all these new changes are, which I think is making them mention the False Dates (prophesies failed over and over, and maybe telling younger ones who have been lied to, by leaders.) One new rule is men can now suddenly wear beards, women pants at the Meetings, etc. I think they ARE a cult or Sect, just that the 11 men form as “one Governing Body.” The dramas they are showing are getting really nerve wracking, and they do not warn children in the audience about sketchy or actually scary topics, and the artwork shows violence. I had terrible trouble sleeping as a child always, and terrible nightmares even into my adulthood. They scared us in the 1970’s a lot about wartime persecution scenarios, and they make everyone think it’s going to happen to them at any minute(even to this day.) They’ve been getting them all ready to be imprisoned at some point (as usual) but now in videos, music videos, and deep discussions.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Ай бұрын

@juteandolive Ай бұрын

Agree

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Ай бұрын

@marmackk 21 күн бұрын

He knows that the JW's are very destructive.He says they are a very dark organisation.He runs the CULT EDUCATION INSTITUTE and has several articles about them on there and has gotten a lot of complaints from former JW's regarding the destructive nature of the group.He unlike other cult experts just uses a single leader criteria to identify a cult.

@JamesHill-lj2dy Ай бұрын

I was raised as a JW and left The Watchtower in my mid-twenties. I maintain that the "governing body" is a sort of "group entity" and that the JW personality cult still "worships" the governing body AS A WHOLE, even though the governing body is a group of several men. They seldom say "Brother So-and-so says..." but usually say "The Governing Body says..." and in the past couple of years especially the governing body has changed JW doctrines and culture several times. It ain't your Grandpa's Watchtower any more.

@tyedup8884 Ай бұрын

The biggest thing that makes them a cult is the way you are treated when you choose to leave. Everything they tell you to build your life around gets stripped away instantly .

@splendidlyimperfect Ай бұрын

I was born to JW parents. Since I reached consciousness I always knew that if they discovered my non-belief in the religion, they would not love me anymore. JWs are taught to love their religion more than their children. If a child turns their back on the faith, the parents believe that the child will be righteously destroyed at Armageddon, so they shut off their hearts and treat their child like they're already dead.

@jimingram7745 24 күн бұрын

Thats sad

@bevbranje3045 Ай бұрын

If you disassociate yourself ( not disfellowshipped) it is considered WORSE than being disfellowshipped. They consider disassociating yourself is leaving Jehovah...

@nolongerconfused6284 Ай бұрын

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@misterdoctor9693 Ай бұрын

right, because if you just misbehaved they might be able to "fix" you, but if you start seeing through their control tactics you aren't coming back, or worse you might start telling others.

@alissawatson2242 Ай бұрын

Hence why I think disassociating is such a powerful thing to do

@XOfebruarystarXO Ай бұрын

Dangerous organization indeed. My younger sister needed a blood transfusion the day she was born and my parents refused. The hospital acted immediately, got a judge to remove my parent's right to her, and rushed her to a different hospital all without my parents knowing. That hospital saved her life and I hold a grudge against my parents to this day for it 40yrs later.

@majafleur9646 Ай бұрын

I disassociated and have been strictly shunned for 15 years. My mother passed away two Christmases ago, and I had to hear about it 3 days after the fact from social media. Lost everyone I knew and loved... Including husband and home. The organization is beyond cruel in their attempts to ostracize.

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

My mom has been shunning me 5 years and I´m sure I wont going to see her before she will be gone. Lets see how long it would take I will get the info about it. This not normal, this is cult like way of treating people. But its totally normal to JWs, we knew it, if we will leave what we will get. It sucks, it doesnt help that you knew it.

@toriwolf5978 Ай бұрын

Thank you for such a detailed information on JWs organization I was in for 30 years finally got out 3 years ago !! Life is so much better now…

@realliving7340 19 күн бұрын

It is better once you leave the cult❤

@IrishConvert Ай бұрын

I was born in 2000; 3rd Generation Jehovahs Witness. I was confirmed in the religion (baptized) when I was 13. Disfellowshipped in January 2020. I was disfellowshipped after I admitted to having intercourse with my girlfriend and in the process disagreeing with ridiculous doctrines. I have been shunned by my family since. I was homeschooled as a kid and teenager. Everyone I had ever known in my life was one of Jehovahs Witnesses. My dad has some family members that never accepted the religion but we rarely ever saw them. So I lost everyone. My parents; my siblings; my grandparents, aunts&uncles, cousins, friends, everyone. The job I had was with an Elder in the religion. The night I was disfellowshipped I was told to pack my bags; and received a text from my boss that I was no longer employed. I’ve been putting my life together slowly over the last couple years so I can’t go into detail about how the last 5 years have gone otherwise I’ll end up in a depressive episode for a while. But the agony that comes from everyone you’ve ever known suddenly pretending you’re dead is something I wouldn’t wish upon my most hated adversary. This cult; has a strong hold on people, they are willing to sever whatever relationships they have and even give their lives or their children’s lives in a sacrifice to preposterous doctrines. Indoctrination is a powerful thing; there’s so many amazing people in this organization but they don’t even know what they’re apart of.

@ramluma Ай бұрын

You will have a better life not being around that cult. I avoid all Jehovahs Witnesses, except my wife. My wife is still a JW. My wife and I are like room mates. I left many years ago. They ruined my life. You are young. I am old. I am just waiting to die. I wish I had never joined that evil cult. I was in High school and taking college classes. They bullied me to leave college. I hate Jehovah's Witnesses.

@ASMR_Orangely Ай бұрын

Did your gf get pregnant that time?

@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын

Excellent Comment. So very very true!!! I wish you success. I was born into the cult for over 50 years. Watchtower is a very very destructive cult and should be deemed an extremist group just like they are in Russia.

@juteandolive Ай бұрын

Please stay strong! I faded away over a decade ago so I don’t know my status with the organization but my family that are JW definitely treat me like I’m dead and I return the favor at every little chance I get. My siblings that aren’t JW still pull away from me, I assume not to risk what relationship they have left with our mother. I lean in the little family that God has blessed me with and keep it moving.

@chasekeffeler7400 Ай бұрын

Can confirm, I stopped being a JW in 2014 at age 21. My family will not talk to me. Mother refuses to eat a meal with me. Disfellowshipping is real and strictly enforced

@trailtreker7002 25 күн бұрын

Find comfort in that we have all gone through this as well , you are not alone . I found comfort in addressing God By " Yahweh" as originally intended , instead of the Incorporated Jehovah.

@ResearchtheLies Ай бұрын

Born and raised in jw. Got married and had two kids. Wife still believes but woke up about 3 years ago. It’s hard, very hard raising kids with a believer.

@MrMrmetro Ай бұрын

He is very generous towards witnesses. While they may not fit the traditional definition of a cult, they exhibit many traits of a cult. They exercise way too much control over the flock. There is no friendly way to exit the religion. Even if you fade they "soft shun" you. They dupe their members into believing that if one leaves, they did something wrong. This is not always true. They also equate leaving the religion as synonymous with leaving God.

@alpaphoenix3252 Ай бұрын

You explained it perfectly

@abbywilson7498 Ай бұрын

You are in correct. Whether you disassociate yourself or disfellowshiped you are cut off. The only advantage of disassociating yourself is that you get to leave instead of being thrown out.

@youllplotzfilms5917 Ай бұрын

The Organisation is very Cruel 😢it’s all about STATUS and titles like CO PO pioneer Special pioneer regular pioneer elders wife BETHELALITE 😢

@nancyeutsey9576 Ай бұрын

No it isn't. No one hold a title. Nor are they called by a title.

@brothersinarms5524 Ай бұрын

As someone that was in the religion for 40 years, I can absolutely positively call you a liar. The titles of status is of the utmost importance to those in the Borg

@coldboltlighting1237 Ай бұрын

@@nancyeutsey9576sorry to say yes it is you may not have experienced hurt or a lot of pain with your experience as a Jw! But a lot of others have lost family members that no one can replace! Please please think outside of the box of the Jw world it’s so freeing! The fact you’re here means you’re curious! Please do your research and critical thinking! Wish you the best!

@96t5wagon Ай бұрын

@@nancyeutsey9576are you serious?? Are you saying that none of the titles just mentioned, exist???

@phoenixrising7397 Ай бұрын

@@nancyeutsey9576you are a brainwashed mind controlled puppet if you think that. We are all exJW’s here, born in or tricked in and will testify that you are out of your mind blind to what that BORG truly is. An occult religion masked as Christian. It’s an abomination and JEHOVAH will hold all accountable that are a part of it.

@bethany45101 Ай бұрын

I was born into the Jehovah’s Witness cult. Baptized, disfellowshipped, shunned and reinstated… I went through so much and still didn’t wake up until I was about 25. That was almost 10 years ago now. My parents are still very active. Changes have been made but they are still very much a cult.

@Hallel-o-jah 22 күн бұрын

@@bethany45101 You have nowhere to go right? Everywhere you look at are falsehoods. Truly, there’s no truth outside Jehovah’s organisation.

@misterdoctor9693 Ай бұрын

I was a JW for 40+ years. the only correction I would make is that since the governing body started putting themselves on camera for their online broadcasting it has very much been leaning back in the direction of a cult of personality.

@phillipsugwas Ай бұрын

And they are hardly appealing to anyone !

@Niafuerte1828 Ай бұрын

My thought exactly.

@lukedygert1256 Ай бұрын

I can add my voice as one who disassociated as well. The shunning, and arrogance of belief are alive and stronger than ever. Great job highlighting the insane pain this cult causes. My JW family has never met my 2 yr old daughter

@ElleRenoCoaching Ай бұрын

I grew up in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Shunned at 16. I list everything and was sent away. Now I help JW’s free themselves and tell their healing stories on my channel ❤️💕✨

@trailtreker7002 25 күн бұрын

Nice Plug , arent we selfish ....

@alissawatson2242 Ай бұрын

They still shun anyone who leaves. No matter what way they leave. Disassociated and instantly was shunned by all family. Mind you we are grown adults with our own children and they lost all family as well. This cult is beyond dangerous and disgusting.

@natashapoirier7597 Ай бұрын

The witnesses do have a text book that regular JW don’t see, it’s only for elders. The elder guide book. I too have lost my JW children I disassociated myself because my spouse was abusive, he was an elder. I have not seen or heard from my children in four years. This is called parental alienation and is a horrendous crime against my children and myself.

@ramrod576 Ай бұрын

It's called Shepard the flock! A must read before going join. All the secret rules!

@brothersinarms5524 Ай бұрын

“ Shepherd, the flock of God”

@fadetoexadam182 23 күн бұрын

I’m in the same position as I left JWs. My wife left and took my kids. I have not seen them for near five years.

@juteandolive Ай бұрын

I’ve never understood how my mother could trade her family for “friends”

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

Thats my mom. I´m dead to her.

@kizzyshealingpraktijk 15 күн бұрын

Surviver Here, I understand 👋 it was just my parents, the rest of the family who are no JW are blocked out (within a day).

@Little_ninja_larry Ай бұрын

I grew up as a Jehovah witness just left And I can say this is a 100% true

@markblades6790 Ай бұрын

Born and raised one and I'm still screwed up left thirty years ago.

@trailtreker7002 25 күн бұрын

Your faith isn't screwed up , just your approach in life . Try new things in line with your conscience and Yahweh will connect with you , He did with me and still does intimately , wakes me up , calls my name , gives me inclination warnings , He is more streamlined than ever just by addressing him as he did when he approached Moses as " Yahweh " .

@Despertadohoy Ай бұрын

Listen to the thousands of EXJW leaving/waking up stories on here and see for yourself if you think it’s a cult or not

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

Very good point. If someone leaves and says "It just wasn't for me" That is normal I think, but some of the things I've seen described in the comments goes a bit further than that.

@anon681 Ай бұрын

They were called Russelites by their opposition. They called themselves bible students.

@decodynamo Ай бұрын

@@University_of_Shawn_RyanThe problem is: they have some unique doctrinal insights which can't be honestly ignored. Their hubris is their downfall, since they equate their order with the only Almighty God. I like what Alan Watt said about not getting confined, but using what may be authentic as a "booster rocket to higher truth."

@user-jt2vv1zj6z Ай бұрын

I'm neither disfellowshipped or disassociated and my family has very little to do with me and most of my old friends have nothing to do with me. I don't even speak against the religion to them. I was very zealous and then started having doubts and life was so stressful. Then I found out about the prevalence of CSA and I could not continue as a JW. I just never went back after the pandemic.

@ItsAllAShow 16 күн бұрын

The Watchtower has destroyed so many people’s lives. Their lies have contributed to division and so much pain for far too many people. I was born and raised a JW. 3rd generation. Left when I was 18. It was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. NO REGRETS. That was over 25 years ago. It was a cult then and it’s a cult NOW. Watchtower has such a hold over their members. My father, mother, and only sister are still stuck inside that cult. I never was baptized but it doesn’t matter to any of them. The minute you speak out about the bad things going on, they cut you off and want nothing to do with you. It’s a CULT.

@SmalltimR 8 күн бұрын

Of course they are a cult, as Jesus Himself was a cult leader And moreso, that followers of Christ will therefore be cults by definition. Though this in itself doesn't mean anything really. The fact is, Churches need to keep their houses clean And moreso, that those subject to discipline by said Churches, will almost always revolt - it's classic human behaviour

@maddog46 Ай бұрын

I was born in and left a nineteen and never looked back. It felt like a cult to me.

@janmarie63 Ай бұрын

I’ve been shunned by friends for 37 years after leaving after 15 years in. Fortunately none of my family or my husband ever joined. After 15 years of devotion to the Org I had a Damascus Road experience with Jesus Christ and was out of there faster than you can say ‘religious cult’. I just KNEW that what they taught was rubbish even before I read ‘apostate’ literature. This billion dollar real estate corporation is the worst religious scam ever perpetrated on mankind. The way to define whether a religion can be classed as a cult is easy……. Does it have a leader or a group of leaders who claim to be the sole source of information that God is providing to enlighten mankind in these last days - all other faiths/religions being ‘of the devil’. I don’t think there’s any doubt that the WTS is a very dangerous CULT.

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

I'm glad you are out but sorry you have been shunned by your friends :(

@jeffj2730 Ай бұрын

We disassociated and are shunned

@majecal1818 Ай бұрын

That organization is determined to break up families...so much so that the shunned/disfellowshipped/"removed" individual is left without any support system at all. Some have been so devastated that it had led them to suicide.

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

I´m lucky that I´m still alive, it was close call. You will loose all. Everything you were, its miracle if that doesnt effect your mental health.

@Wtfbroward 7 күн бұрын

Yup it happened to me. I lived it all. I left that org 8 years ago.

@jeremywalsh6126 Ай бұрын

"It is very difficult for the parent who is not a witness to work it out with a witness parent" - amen, brother

@ranles1 Ай бұрын

My faith died with the 1914 generation. The overlapping generation BS was the last straw for me. Promises ended up being lies.

@jordanerdman90 Ай бұрын

You absolutely cannot “navigate” out of that religion. No matter what you will be publicly or silently shunned. But other than that he is dead on.

@joJo56976 Ай бұрын

Des familles détruites, des personnes qui se laissent mourir pour refuser une transfusion, des personnes qui mettent de côté leur potentiel : pas d’études, s’empêchent de fonder une famille, coupent leur liens avec les membres de leur famille non JW, des personnes qui vivent en hypervigilance, qui se sentent coupable dès qu’elle manque une réunion, qui vivent avec un idéal de perfection irréaliste, qui se font manipuler, etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Et ce n’est pas destructeur?

@jca857 24 күн бұрын

Destroys a human down to the cellular level

@earthgirl7861 Ай бұрын

At one time, dissasociation did allow a softer departure, but in the late 80s they viewed it the same as disfellowshipping.

@ramrod576 Ай бұрын

Yeah they can't have exjws telling JWs why they left. There would be ZERO JWs.

@BigGamePlayer-hi9lu Ай бұрын

Viewed worse in my old cong !

@YKAEYA Ай бұрын

Wasn’t that because of the former governing body member Ray Franz turned whistle blower? They needed to make him appear to be an ‘opposer’

@alissawatson2242 Ай бұрын

I had an aunt turn in a letter to disassociate in the 70s and they disfellowshipped her for it. It’s insane!

@skippy1012 Ай бұрын

It’s a cruel organization. Stay far 😅away

@cult2Christ Ай бұрын

20 years in the tower, disassociated in 2014 after reading "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" and then questioned many other teachings that I found to be false. The fallout after leaving is devastating to many who lose family, "friends", and often income.

@Austden Ай бұрын

I’m ex Mormon and the parallels (with different lingo) are striking

@ItsAllAShow 16 күн бұрын

Yes! Lots of similarities between JW’s and Mormons. It’s like they are sisters/brother religions. Isn’t it?

@peony2353 Ай бұрын

As a former JW just want to clarify a few things in the video. The point about Michael Jackson Disassociation. I believe back when he did it, it was a way for someone to leave without repercussions of shunning. Then one of the governing body members left the JWs and they changed the rules around Disassociation where it is treated the same as Disfellowshipping. MJs family may have reasoned that at the time he left was prior to these changes so it’s still ok to associate with him plus the added fact of him being a celebrity. Recently they changed some rules around disfellowshipping. It is now called removed or being removed. They no long use the term disfellowshipping. This change is very resent as of this year due to them trying to appeal to the Norwegian government to get their religious status back and thus the money that comes with that. A few details have changed after the name change to removed they still shun but they can invite or encourage a removed person to the kingdoms hall and Greet them at the kingdom. Some JWs may use this as a opportunity to connect with removed/ disfellowshipped family or friends but it is still limited I really appreciate the video and making known how evil the practices of WT are and how they destroy, intervene and control family relationships through brainwashing their members using the Bible

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I didn't even know about the MJ thing until this video.

@grantshort 27 күн бұрын

I was staunch through the 90's. And am in full support of the no blood belief. Transfusions are medeival and forced the medical industry to step up it's patient management. But the message started to change especially recently and it appears the BAR attorneys have completely taken over. COVID was my big wake up moment when their precious 501c3 status was more important than the lives of the beneficiaries in their Trust. I still love the congregation but corporate lost me forever.

@rowanbowyer6560 Ай бұрын

I was bought up as a witness my father was an elder and held other positions that gave him authority over others, I never saw my father use his influence over others for which I was grateful for. My mother died as a result of not taking a blood transfusion when I 15 yrs old, I remember the “ powers that be” came to the hospital and told my parents that NO BLOOD /OR BLOOD PRODUCTS, no blood FRACTIONS….. now when it come to fractions at that time NO fractions were permitted……LESS than 12 months later the VERY FRACTIONS that could have saved her life but REFUSED were now allowed. No one can convince me that this religion is not a CULT. And at the hospital there were four elders who monitored our every move so as not to weaken, when a group of men tell you what you can do and not do to the point it costs a life it’s A CULT. I ended up marrying an elder ( we have walked away form it now) and I also worked as a nurse and I’ve known some people have blood ( secretly) and I’ve never said a thing it is simply non of my business… in fact id always take extra care of them, anonymously of course. By the way I went back to university without telling anyone because i knew if I said anything i would be spoken to . When our son went to university my husband was told to step down before he was removed because we allowed our son to go to university, yes it is a CULT

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

I didnt even go to high school, yes its a cult. My dad was also an elder.

@jimingram7745 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for helping the ones who took blood , I have a very special friend who is a JW and I think about and worry for her always

@victorbledsoe1227 Ай бұрын

It's a Cult

@gregegg-ef1kl Ай бұрын

The long-term association with this group ruins your interpersonal connections with people, you can't even just have mutual friendships without having a common denominator such as religion.

@CL_G Ай бұрын

The cult expert stated facts about the religion, not opinions and I would say this is a very well made video.

@Therealcarolinaguy Ай бұрын

I was gonna say the same. He was like that about all of the ones he talked about.

@96t5wagon Ай бұрын

Except for the fact he said more than once, “in my opinion”.

@beeftango3735 Ай бұрын

absolutely disaster of a cult. grew up in it sad as hell childhood

@beunkalolita 14 күн бұрын

Born and raised in the JW religion. Left for good at 28 two and a half years ago. Never got baptized and happy I never did. The trauma I went through as a teen and young adult could be made into a movie. Everything stated is true.

@jesse86jesse Ай бұрын

Ex JW here. The Witnesses were and are a cult. I lost the best years of my life being a stupid witness. I didn't go to college because I was told the end would come before I even made out of high school. I'm 38 and here we are still 🤣

@RS-kk3ow 21 күн бұрын

They said that in the sixties when I was a kid! College education was free in California!

@jesse86jesse 20 күн бұрын

@RS-kk3ow I was Born and raised in southern California..and college wasn't free by time I graduated HS

@nolongerconfused6284 Ай бұрын

Some experts argue that for a group to qualify as a cult, it must have a single charismatic leader, and this gentleman seems to hold that view. However, I respectfully disagree. In groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses, authority doesn't rest in one individual but in a collective leadership, such as the Governing Body. This group functions as a single, authoritative entity, making decisions that dictate members' lives and imposes harmful discipline for those who deviate from their rules. The insistence that there must be one leader can be misleading, as it gives the impression that the Watchtower is not a cult. This perspective risks confusing those trying to help individuals trapped in this oppressive organization that is indeed a dangerous cult, in my opinion. The absence of a sole leader doesn’t diminish the cult-like control or the harm inflicted-it’s the centralized authority and the resulting damage that define it.

@KC-gi9ol Ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out. Well said. The body of work done by numerous cult experts points to the JWs being a cult. Those who’ve been able to escape for sure know it is. For those of us harmed by this cult org and trying to raise awareness that the WTBTS *is* a cult, this feels like a regression to hear a cult expert call it a ‘destructive organization’. What cult isn’t destructive? What high control authoritarian group isn’t destructive? By their very nature, cults are destructive. No additional qualifier is necessary. Did the JWs transition from a personality cult to an organizational cult? Maybe. That could be the discussion. One could argue the governing body is a personality because they operate as a singular entity of one mind, in one united thought. No one who thinks differently is allowed to remain on the body. There’s no need to sugar coat this group with a definition other than cult. So many people are duped by them that watering down the label does more harm. While this discussion seems to revolve around semantics, it’s not just about semantics; it’s essential for harm reduction to label the JW org for what it is to hopefully wake people up and also to help support survivors like myself understand more fully why I am the way I am and to be able to fully heal. I think it’s offensive for this guy to attempt to re-label the destruction done by this organization and its members as anything but a cult. It serves no meaningful, tangible purpose. It’s perhaps more suitable as one’s master’s thesis.

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

Its a cult, no matter if there was one leader in the past and now its group of men. They still have full control of JWs life.

@nolongerconfused6284 29 күн бұрын

@@KC-gi9ol 💯 agree with you, well said.

@mindovermadder6668 Ай бұрын

I lived this! But my kids choose to not become JW ! Lloyd Evan’s channel was a huge help during that tough battle !

@fadetoexadam182 23 күн бұрын

Shawn needs to have someone on who actually knows about JWs and cults and explain how dangerous they are. The largest cult in plain sight.

@heathergriggs4463 Ай бұрын

This guy doesn't really understand the difference between disassociation and disfellowshipping. Currently disassociation is worse than df because leaving the org(Jehovah) is considered worse than being kicked out for committing a sin.

@satanicpanicattheddtable2604 Ай бұрын

I married one and I am fighting the long battle and letting her see that their rules and nonsense are not in the Bible

@jimingram7745 24 күн бұрын

How can they not see that ? The 1914 stuff is so full of 💩

@toddhayes3506 Ай бұрын

Pure Evil IDOLATRY

@fadetoblack172 Ай бұрын

Glad to hear this on Shawn ryan

@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD 25 күн бұрын

SPARLOCK THE WARRIOR WIZARD approves of this video.

@paulcarroll7054 Ай бұрын

I disassociated myself in the days of MJ, yet I was TOTALLY shunned. MJ was treated with a different rule because he was MJ

@glennbentley4226 Ай бұрын

What about their gang stalking activities?

@serafin1352 Ай бұрын

Just yesterday a plain clothes elder drives by slowly and sees me out front of my house. He stops gets out and walks up and asks me if I am keeping up to date with “the organization” i said yeah not interested still. He said he will mark the chat down and be back in 6 months! Told him no. I have no doubt he will go and report on the fact that he saw me smoking a cigarette on my porch and have an American flag proudly on my house.

@vytrocorp6754 Ай бұрын

They stalking via members like pioners ,what are you doing,talking. They snitching to elders

@steve7384 Ай бұрын

They destroyed my family

@jimingram7745 24 күн бұрын

Thats sad

@victorlegret9036 Ай бұрын

As a born-in to the JW cult, spent 40ys in it, serving as an "elder" over a decade (JW label for a priest/clergyman) and currently an exJW activist, I feel a ned to correct few: 1. Russell (a 1st spiritual leader of the movement called Bible students and the 2nd president of the Watchtower) was not a totalitarian cult leader. He was just a publisher of christian-like literature, selling it and it created a community of truly independent congregations and individuals, majority of them members of different denominations. All Watchtower subscribers and readers had absolutely freedom to believe what they want and nobody controlled it or punish it. So in organisational sense, not concerning their dogmas, they were kind of similar to the 1st century christian congregations. Only and than when Rutherford took the wheel, he created the totalitarian cult ticking all definitions of a cult. It did not ended with his death. Knorr continued the same. Just after Knorr the Governing body came to the scene. They continue the course of absolutistic leadership. Only they can create and cancel dogmas, they control the obedience and they punish it in severe ways. The main point I disagree is: The fact that the leadership is just one or a handful of "self-appointed" individuals does not change the definition of a destructive, controlling and punishing totalitarian cult. JWs are one and many countries like Norway, Spain, Australia, New Zeland, and many in the process, confirm after independent investigations and hearing thousands of victims (child molesting, blood, shunning etc..) that it is a correct definition applied. Besides a little differences Rick has written a briliant book. Anyone who is, was personally in or has a dear one close to any cult, this is a must to read.

@LOVE4REVOLUTION Ай бұрын

Disassociation leads to shunning most of the time. And jw celebrities do get special treatment. Serena Williams can participate in her child's Christmas pageant very publicly but a regular witness would be disfellowshipped for celebrating Christmas privately with their family. My theory is that 1) celebrity jws donate a lot of money to the watchtower organization and 2) the watchtower tries to avoid the negative publicity that would come with disfellowshipping the celebrity. We know Rebecca Vardy and Luke Evans have shown a lot of light on the jw organization in their esposés.

@LOVE4REVOLUTION Ай бұрын

Correction: Serena Williams did a cameo in the Nutcracker.

@Lifeisgood0222 Ай бұрын

Make this go viral.

@floydgraveling3256 Ай бұрын

cant divorce just after leaving the religion has to be based on the grounds of adultery

@aaronkuntze7494 Ай бұрын

You can't spell culture without cult

@quintonburkham50 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for doing this podcast

@DerabtrünnigeJehova Ай бұрын

Such a nonsense, they worship the governing body! They call it jehovah, but its only the will of the governing body!

@jordanmiller3947 28 күн бұрын

I was the witness during a divorce/custody issue. There 100% is a textbook for custody battles. You can request it from the elders. They’re nothing if not organized. To the host’s point about making children hate their non-witness parent, it’s not exactly that. It’s that they’re supposed to distrust literally everyone who isn’t a witness and hate everyone who tries to pull them away, parents included. I remember after my divorce, my daughter asked me, “why does mommy want me to die at Armageddon?” I didn’t tell her that, and I don’t think anyone else specifically said that about her mother. It’s just the natural, logical progression of the crazy teachings that are routine in that lifestyle. A parent would typically be the one trying to help their child the hardest and most often, so they would receive the most hated. But make no mistake, anyone can receive that treatment. Grandparents, teachers, social workers, etc. I’m glad I woke up before too much damage was done

@SmalltimR 22 күн бұрын

Do you love Jesus Christ?

@ramrod576 18 күн бұрын

@@SmalltimR I don't. Never knew him. Sounds like a cult leader though. Maybe an alien.

@cubic9960 Ай бұрын

And now the governing body now say obey us even if it doesn’t make sense. The watchtower is a business they have free labors they build Kingdom Halls then sells them off. The governing body/ watchtower are billionaires.

@ramrod576 Ай бұрын

This is so dangerous. They already killed people with false teachings. Like organ transplants are cannibalism and banned for a decade! Yeah that doesn't make sense. And people died. Jw cult is dangerous. Tell everyone!

@jamesdewart1772 Ай бұрын

My son hasn’t acknowledged me since the week he baptized. He has never met his half sister. She turns ten next month. My eldest daughter did the same a few years back. Excuse after another about some religious event and why she couldn’t come over anymore. Then nothing. After the recent two Florida hurricanes I messaged to see if they were ok. At that point they messaged they have moved out of state together with their mum. I can empathize with your fellow worker, it stinks.

@bbi8384 Ай бұрын

I am very sad ,my grandson has stage 4 cancer, and his parents, jw, not allowing him to do blood transfusion. It is hard not knowing what's happening next no help.

@Eric_01 Ай бұрын

I don't know the details, but even though they do not allow full blood transfusions, they've caved on blood derivative treatments.

@debatememe4638 Ай бұрын

So sorry to hear that😢

@tiiatuuli339 Ай бұрын

If kid is under age atleast my country they will give the blood anyways no matter what parents say or even the kid. But if person is 18+nothing what we can do, if he doesnt want it. My own mom was almost died cos she lost alot of blood when she lost her unborn baby. I was almost growing up without my mom, cos this cult´s rules. The worse thing is that there are elders that come to hospitals and even talk with doctors and taking care that you wont take blood. Its called Hospital Liaison Committee. The pressure is real, need to be strong person to say go away and taking the blood. Most JWs rather die and take it and members of Hospital Liaison Committee sure will try to do all for that.

@lonster3000 Ай бұрын

He’s just quibbling over semantics of what the definition of a cult is. The truth is they do have a leader, it’s called “the Faithful and Discreet Slave” AKA the Governing Body. He is wrong about MJ too, DAd are treated the same as DFd. Most of his family are not JW so they had no reason to shun him.

@JamesHill-lj2dy Ай бұрын

You are correct. If it walks like a CULT and quacks like a CULT, it is a CULT, regardless of how many individuals comprise the leadership.

@nolongerconfused6284 Ай бұрын

💯 agree with you. Some experts argue that for a group to qualify as a cult, it must have a single charismatic leader, and this gentleman seems to hold that view. However, I respectfully disagree. In groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses, authority doesn't rest in one individual but in a collective leadership, such as the Governing Body. This group functions as a single, authoritative entity, making decisions that dictate members' lives and imposing harmful discipline for those who deviate from their rules. The insistence that there must be one leader can be misleading, as it gives the impression that the Watchtower is not a cult. This perspective risks confusing those trying to help individuals trapped in this oppressive organization. The absence of a sole leader doesn’t diminish the cult-like control or the harm inflicted-it’s the centralized authority and the resulting damage that define it.

@Eric_01 Ай бұрын

It's hard to get a solid answer on whether or not MJ ever was baptized, but it's leaning towards not. That would make a huge difference "technically" to the believing family members.

@nolongerconfused6284 Ай бұрын

@@Eric_01 he was definitely baptized. Our CO who we were close to served in Michael's congregation in Hollywood/Los Angeles.

@lonster3000 Ай бұрын

@@Eric_01 of course he was baptized. You can’t be DF’d or need to DA if you were never baptized. They never would have gotten him to say he was wrong to make the Thriller video and put a disclaimer at the front of it if he wasn’t a JW.

@Jpfisho82 Ай бұрын

They only make changes when they get called out, they definitely weren't ready for the internet age where members can find out what really goes on

@floydgraveling3256 Ай бұрын

this guy doesnt really know the full extent of how bad it is

@mikekent1490 Ай бұрын

They did not call THEMSELVES "Russellites", it was their opposers or others that called them that. Many called them Millennial Dawners or other names. They refused to take those names officially. There is a difference between disassociation and disfellowshipping (Now called "removed). Disfellowshipping means the cult puts you out whereas disassociation is where you put yourself out either by deliberately telling them you're leaving or by an action. They class a person who disassociates themselves as worse than a person who is disfellowshipped or removed. The act of disassociation is an act of virtual treason. It is harder for a person to get back in who has disassociated themselves.

@ramrod576 Ай бұрын

So you can't leave without losing your family? You give up your freedom of religion of you join?

@mikekent1490 Ай бұрын

@@ramrod576 Unless you do what they call, "Fade". That is quietly leave, stop going to meetings but for someone with family in the cult or close friends that is very hard, if not impossible to do. It means living a lie and constantly worrying if someone finds out. I am in that situation. I have no family but am very well known in many countries where I served. I still receive many texts and calls from those friends and if the subject comes up, which it does very often, I either change the conversation or make up something. It is not easy to "fade" out of the cult. If it becomes known that a person is no longer living the JW lifestyle then the trouble starts. If it becomes known that you have publicly stated that you're no longer a JW or it becomes known that you have done things not allowed by the cult, you will be asked to speak with the elders to explain yourself. If you refuse, which you can and they feel that they have enough "evidence" it will be announced that you are no longer a JW and then you will be shunned by all.

@brothersinarms5524 Ай бұрын

My wife and I were both born in to the religion/cult. We tried to fade after being in for 40 years. I currently have not been disfellowshipped/removed and I have not disassociated. My wife and I, Are three children and one grandchild are being completely shunned by everyone we knew. My father lives about 45 minutes away and has not ever even met his one and only Great granddaughter. My brothers and sisters will not allow their children to play with mine. Despite all of this, we couldn’t be happier because we have found the true Jesus and worship him!

@adamantiumbullet9215 Ай бұрын

He didn't say they called themselves "the Russellites". He said they were called the Russellites because of their close association with Russell.

@adamantiumbullet9215 Ай бұрын

@@brothersinarms5524 Same here. 4th gen JW, not disfellowshipped ("removed") or disassociated, but completely shunned by every JW I've ever known because I stopped attending meetings (after learning the real truth about the organization and its doctrines). Not one of my JW "friends" asked me WHY I stopped attending meetings. They just shunned me. To a person.

@matthewvaldez83 19 күн бұрын

can't leave an org without shunning? YOU MAY BE IN A CULT

@anna-y6e6b Ай бұрын

A JW mom told me that kids don't need to celebrate birthday and Christmas, they still get presents on other occasions. I was thinking 'wow, what kind of mom is that, have you ever asked your kids opinion? ' i feel bad for her kids.

@michaellinden-p4d 29 күн бұрын

You know what....I never got more than 3 presents my entire childhood as a JW. I got disfellowshipped at 14yrs in '84....still struggle at times over that horrific cult.

@jessewhite5930 20 күн бұрын

100% a cult!!!

@SpiritAnointed-k8r Ай бұрын

Was raised in that Religious Organization, was an elder and pioneer, woke up by Christ in 2015 and no doubt Watchtower Leadership uses next level, supernatural mind control to lead its congregants into ungodly behavior.

@QuëstionšnÅňşwęŕż Ай бұрын

Disassociate and disfellowshiping is the same. Your information is harmful if someone listens to you

@OhioPIMO Ай бұрын

The truth about "the truth" is liberating

@JC-be5cc Ай бұрын

Jw's information is harmful. How many have died due to the ever changing blood policy?

@robertgrey6101 Ай бұрын

@Questions and Answers. W R O N G !! Disfellowshipping is being put out of the Org or congregation by the committee but walking away is doing actions by yourself to have NO further spiritual association with these false shepherds.

@QuëstionšnÅňşwęŕż Ай бұрын

@@robertgrey6101 no your wrong disfellowshiping and dissociating is not different. They are the SAME and have the same negative and harmful effects. The announcement is exactly the same for both and the audience will automatically assume they were disfellowshiped thinking they did somthing bad and you will loose your family either way. THIS VIDEO IS HARMFUL for anyone contemplating dissociating and not understand the consequences.

@JamesHill-lj2dy Ай бұрын

The nuanced difference is that disassociation is VOLUNTARY and initiated by the individual at their request, while disfellowshipping is the result of a Judicial Committee deliberation and is punitive, without regard for what the "sinner" wants. Both result in shunning.

@Darrinnewlife Ай бұрын

I got out of it.

@InvestigadorTJ Ай бұрын

Russelites was a diss to the JWs not a personal name of the group

@yaykochaves3 Ай бұрын

Yes jws were called bible students before and since people called them russelites they changed theyre name to Jehovahs witness

@96t5wagon Ай бұрын

I think it’s not something to be overlooked in that he says more than once, “in my opinion” in regards to JW’s being a cult. Opinions can be right and they can be wrong. There’s a portion of the video in which he states the leadership as being “like a dozen men”, which to those outside, that’s true. If you’re a JW, as I once was, those “dozen men” are held to the level as being a step below God himself in that they’re referred to as the “faithful slave” (incorrectly). So then they are now seen as one leader though being made up by many men. When you define a cult, one of the definitions is, “A cult has a leader who preaches an explicit belief system and is followed unquestioningly.” JW’s don’t question the authority of the “faithful slave” for fear of being taken into a committee meeting with elders and questioned as to whether or not they believe God is using the “faithful slave” to lead the organization. If that person says they don’t, they are removed from the congregation and the congregants are told to shun that person. Yes, one announcement will result in many losing their ENTIRE social network simply because they admitted they don’t believe some random guys in New York are the “mouthpiece of God”. Just as an example of how deeply some believe that, my own brother said to me that my questioning the “direction” of the “faithful slave” was akin to self removal from existence. Read that again and let that sink in. When you can’t express authentically one’s own thoughts in regards to something as simple as that, when one can’t openly question something, that’s a cult.

@University_of_Shawn_Ryan Ай бұрын

Correct. It can affect individuals differently. I think he is giving an outsider's perspective vs. how bad other cults are.

@JamesHill-lj2dy Ай бұрын

You are CORRECT. Well said!

@kant.68 5 күн бұрын

I've never heard any of those things you mentioned and I'm a JW myself. The Governing Body aren't very different than any leaders of any organization. I truly don't understand what's so evil about them

@JamesHill-lj2dy 4 күн бұрын

@@kant.68 I'm not sure if you were responding to me or someone else because you didn't say. My association with the JWs began in the mid 1950s, probably long before you started with them. Also, I returned to college in my 20s with the goal of filling in my knowledge gaps. I was particularly interested in psychology, and I did outside study that informed me of the meaning og terms like "group entity," which is simply when a group of people decide to act nin a way that none of them individually would act. I encourage all Jehovah's Witnesses and former Jehovah's Witnesses to continue their education rather than ignore it as The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has advised.

@JamesHill-lj2dy 4 күн бұрын

@@kant.68 , it might be helpful to both you and everyone else if you specified which things you say you never heard of. How many religious organizations are you familiar with? You say the GB is no different from other religious leaders. Do you mean like the Pope or the Dalai Lama or Jim Jones or David Koresh or money-grubbing televangelists? is the GB just like those religious leaders? Explain yourself, please, you Witness of Jah.

@Mak1122-e1t Ай бұрын

Escape watchtower

@aaronbaker2986 Ай бұрын

You leave on your own. You get shunned. Fact

@jason___4010 Ай бұрын

Is there a video of the full interview?

@Nobodyslogan Ай бұрын

Russell never had an original idea of his own. He simply recycled and rebranded the teachings / calculations RE: Dates set by William Miller in the Mid 1800's. All of which failed. JW's love to talk about using bible principles in life often based upon the mosaic law. If someone presumed to speak on Gods behalf / act as a prophet the test was if what they said happened then you knew they were a true prophet. If what they said didn't happen you knew they were false and they were to be stoned. The biblical conclusion is simple. Do not be Misled.