This is the type of content that make Cultaholic a standout channel on a saturated platform
@alexbirdfox Жыл бұрын
@@garyhen2028 hey we're given what we got and I think it's a pretty in-depth dive with what they had to work with.
@chrischin_94 Жыл бұрын
1000%
@derekvietro784 Жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios as well
@TheFlizash Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I used to watch and consume ALL wrestling KZbin media. I've been able to pare it down to Cultaholic and Fightful. I love Steve and Larson but them being West Coast American means their stuff is usually a few hours out if date by the time any news breaks. But I still watch their stuff just because I've loved those guys for years
@padge2 Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@franklindelanoroosevelt9177 Жыл бұрын
Need a dark side of the ring episode on this guy
@MrNegativecreep07 Жыл бұрын
Got to love how Vince decided to try and convince everyone that Finland was anti-American
@tanningchatum7790 Жыл бұрын
In Vince's brain, anywhere that isn't America is Anti-America
@diabolikalm9 ай бұрын
Anyone foreign has been placed like that. Even if they aren’t the American audience cant help chant “USA”, when an opponent is from a different nation 😂
@worstcasescenario5242 Жыл бұрын
Very good work. Im from Finland, I've read all his books etc and you mentioned things that even I didn't know about. I say something nice about him - at the 90's when he came back to Finland to do random things he was so quick witted and entertaining as hell. After he went coma and woke up he wasn't the same.
@buttmunchowsers Жыл бұрын
Why was he in coma
@MassaMainio Жыл бұрын
@@buttmunchowsers Overdosed on pills and booze, was in coma for 3 weeks
@briansickboy Жыл бұрын
Borga was the man
@humanipulationnation10 ай бұрын
What books?
@worstcasescenario524210 ай бұрын
He wrote couple of books about his life - but I'm not sure if there's any of em in english@@humanipulationnation
@christiankallio8586 Жыл бұрын
Being a wrestling fan who's half Finnish, it really bothers me that when it comes to Finnish pro wrestlers he's the only one I know and the most well known. Wish there was another big star from Finland
@FloppyCripple Жыл бұрын
It's not Finland's fault, he made his own choices.
@lyylski Жыл бұрын
Well there are... but they are all from like 1910s to 1930s
@DJ_Mooster Жыл бұрын
@@lyylski For real. It's either they are from them or it's a Finnish-Canadian guy named StarBuck
@lyylski Жыл бұрын
@@DJ_Mooster At least we'll always have Lars Anderson who might be 2nd gen immigrant but he's still Finnish to me damnit
@MrKahlerHahn Жыл бұрын
What should germans say? All we got is Alex Wright 😔😉
@ragestick Жыл бұрын
As a finnish wrestling fan great job with this video had a lot of details that even i didn't know about Tony Halme. This type of deep details videos set this channel apart from others. Keep it coming and keep up the good work!
@Errorman0001 Жыл бұрын
Being a life long wrestling fan from Finland I truly wished some things could've worked out differently for him. Great work on the video.
@machomusprime5011 ай бұрын
What, not not being a POS in life?
@tyrone5969 Жыл бұрын
Someone with “Exit Only” tattooed on their ass sounds like the definition of “thou doth protest too much” if I’ve ever heard of it. Who exactly did he plan on having read that?
@iami3rian394 Жыл бұрын
Thought the exact same thing.
@PanzerWalrus Жыл бұрын
Everyone in the showers of a Finnish swimming pool / bath complex thing.
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
Lars Sulliv... You know what, I'll just leave 😂
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsUnavailable I wouldn't be at all surprised if they got together if their lives overlapped.
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
Just remember... He got a grown man to tattoo his ass so other grown men would immediately.. I got nothing🤣
@josephk43103 ай бұрын
I knew Tony when I was training for National Level USA Bodybuilding Contests, Tony was was a serious person, he trained hard and tried to become a movie star. I saw it was a very motivated and interesting person.
@joeywrestling9536 Жыл бұрын
Truly incredible work, Adam!! Thank you for all you do!!
@mopofvirtue5303 Жыл бұрын
This was a great watch. I love these sorts of videos from you guys. Any chance we might see one on Koji Kitao?
@bobgreen4318 Жыл бұрын
If you like Dark Side of the Ring, this is perfect for you. Great job guys!
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
At 1:41 I SERIOUSLY thought you said he grew up in the "loud and sorry region" of Helsinki 🤣
@AnAdorableWombat13 ай бұрын
It might as well been
@pavlovsdogman Жыл бұрын
He did have a few boxing matches in Finland but he was very average and no one outside Finland knew him at all. People give him shit for losing to Randy Couture in the UFC but he was actually carrying an injury that made his already short training camp even shorter! Also Randy is a fucking legend and there's no shame in losing to him! I think compared to 97% of the people on this planet Halme is a killer!
@Biffo316 Жыл бұрын
I remember him being brought in solely to feud with Luger during the whole Lex express thing. I actually loved the guy feuding with Luger oddly enough
@anilate Жыл бұрын
As a pro wrestling fan and a true crime (reporting) fan, I love this series. Do you think you’ll ever do a Bruiser Brody special?
@gustavootero3018 Жыл бұрын
José Huertas González is a pig murder a Shame in PR wrestling
@JWS1985 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having to break up a fight between Ludvig and Norton... 😮
@WSK9002 Жыл бұрын
I have heard from a couple wrestlers in WWE, that unless one had issue with Halme, he was just kinda there, he did not have many friends in the dressing room, now I understand why, great work Cultaholic Crew. 👏
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
Halme doesn't needs to be likeable
@danmount9462 Жыл бұрын
These true crime videos are amazing. You should do something on Buck Zumhoffe.
@chayden153 Жыл бұрын
Oh god yeah. That's someone who should rot under the prison
@Bjoern_1897 Жыл бұрын
yes
@syria0110 Жыл бұрын
That guy by a small sliver makes Grizzly Smith look like a Saint by comparison
@pumpkinking5397 Жыл бұрын
Funny to see this. I was just thinking about him pinning Tatanka with one finger the other day, lol
@sissisammakko Жыл бұрын
Great recap. Greeting from Finland
@BDEisMe22_4 Жыл бұрын
WWF has employed many wrestlers , some crazy and hated, some drink and drug happy, some genuine, and some not. Someone commented that he made an impact in the six months he was in WWF. I completely agree.
@broodbynature Жыл бұрын
So intriguing. Really appreciate the effort and care put into these docs from top to bottom.
@SpudgunStreams Жыл бұрын
Great video. As bad as he was, he wasn't the worst of the Finnish Gladiators. Have a look for Virpi Butt, known as 'Timantti'.
@lyylski Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. For the first decade of my childhood he was the epitome of a public "true man" appearing on TV constantly and being just this famous presence everyone knew. Then the next decade he became a sadder shell of himself year after year until his death.
@dingalingmasterpiecetheater Жыл бұрын
Borga was only around for 6 months!?! I thought he was around longer than that. He made an impression on me back in 1993.
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
It was to fed to Lex Luger, he felt to be pushed huge
@josephk43103 ай бұрын
Tony was a good, hardworking, no-nonsence guy. Totally on his work.
@pjsw Жыл бұрын
So glad we have another true crime episode
@kevinKronnack Жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed these True Wrestling Crime stories, more please.
@SankariQ Жыл бұрын
Great content as always! Just a slight correction, he didn't enlist and shortly after leave the finnish army, he did his compulsory military service as do all finnish males between ages 18-29, we have conscription military service much like South-Korea or Russia. You either do military or civilian service(which at that time was much much longer than military service) or go straight to jail without going through go and collecting 200
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
Why it is a obligation ?
@SankariQ Жыл бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 Because long time ago Finland chose to go with conscription army rather than a professional standing army. Biggest affecting decision maker being almost 1000mile land border with mother russia and it's constant threat to the very existence of sovereign country of Finland
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
@@SankariQ ouch
@bigjoeofthe707 Жыл бұрын
Hold up. He was in Die Hard With a Vengeance? I never knew
@brownstarslots Жыл бұрын
I recognized him watching it and just figured I was wrong
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
I did know him, but to see him bald is odd
@GAURAV25855ify5 ай бұрын
Really?
@UncleTermite4 ай бұрын
@@GAURAV25855ifyHe was one of the terrorist on the trucks trying to get into Fort Knox .
@meganlucas6572 Жыл бұрын
Great job on this guys!
@Bjoern_1897 Жыл бұрын
great work guys!
@iloveacheesesingle Жыл бұрын
Cool story that I'd never heard of before. Sweet.
@twankistevenson3884 Жыл бұрын
Luger V's Borga... Jeezus the mind boggles. In 1994 we had to endure HBK V's Bob Backlund on the house show circuit (I had the misfotrune to catch that twice) but Borga V Luger???? I have no doubt that would have been amongst one of the worst possible matchups any wrestling fan could have endured.
@doctorevil3326 Жыл бұрын
I actually saw them wrestle live back in 93. It wasn't as good as Steiners vs Quebecers but better than Johny Polo Vs Owen Hart by far.
@JouQo Жыл бұрын
he did not enlist. military service is mandatory for all males in finland.
@waltercallihan Жыл бұрын
For a minute there, I thought that was ol Jim cornette on the thumbnail 😂😂🤣😂
@DerClouder Жыл бұрын
Tony Halme was the first(and so far only) politician that got their motion passed on their first term in office here in Finland. He got through a law that stated "Veterans who served in our country's wars, will have all their funeral expenses paid by the government of Finland." It was also his one major campaign promise, making him the only politician so far that has mostly kept their campaign promises. Tony Halme, when putting his motion forward to the government, is quoted in saying "These fuckers served, bled, and suffered in the front so that our country can be an independent state, and they can't even die for free?" He was also a somewhat legendary in his vacation excapades. He was a victim of an attempted mugging by 12 maroccoan street thugs in Barcelona. He survived with minor injuries while beating 5 of the thugs straight to hospital while the rest fled in fear.
@horsemansinformationoffice Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, during that enncounter he got stabbed to his backside. Halme didn't notice it before the police arrived and delivered the news for him with a line of "Señor, there's a knife in your ass".
@jeremyk4378 Жыл бұрын
Oh god. Someone actually got the "exit only" tattoo?! 😂
@LukeLeonettiYouTube Жыл бұрын
THOR! THOR! EVERYBODY SHOUT THAT! THOR!
@OCs_And_Stories Жыл бұрын
A man of culture I see
@Ganbarizer9 ай бұрын
Kind of ironic that he was a bodyguard for Gene Simmons, who is Jewish.
@chayden153 Жыл бұрын
I seriously love these true crime videos you guys have been doing!! Really glad you guys covered ludvig borga, he was not a good person.
@b-bopeddie1290 Жыл бұрын
but he was still AWESOME .........
@Aproximal Жыл бұрын
NLinc legend online, but he had a career that just went. What a guy.
@Empyre189 ай бұрын
4:15 He got THAT idea from Taxi Driver? A film where the whole point is that the protagonist’s mental health is decaying from living in a crime-ridden, alienating hellhole like 1970’s New York? Buddy…
@ChroniclogicalJeff Жыл бұрын
Damn! I forgot all about this guy and didn't know any of his personal story. As always, thank you for the work put in and a job well done. 🍻
@christophercarpkey9382 Жыл бұрын
Great series like them all would love to see more.
@Malachi_Marx Жыл бұрын
Amazing work on this documentary. A truly disturbed individual, it's sad that so many today in America still look up him as a hero, not in spite of his problems, but because of them...
@SankariQ Жыл бұрын
Hey Pacitti and rest of the Cultaholic crew, out of pure interest; since most of the sources for this are only available in finnish how did you translate them? Did you use a finnish speaker for it or did you use translation platform? I mean if it's a machine/app it was frigging impressive since there wasn't really any facts really wrong, just slight misinterpretation. And just decade ago all the translation machines absolutely sucked with finnish, and that development is scary.
@MsfPW89 Жыл бұрын
He was a polarizing figure to say the least. Funny thing is, he is probably the most honest politician that there has been in finland for the past 30 years. Only thing he promised that he would do would be that he wanted to improve the living conditions of the winter war veterans. It was the only thing he wanted to do and he fought for it, and ultimately got it. He also made a really controversial speech at the parliament regarding pedophiles where he stated that all pedophiles should be castrated and have a stick inserted into their ass and throw them in jail for the rest of their miserable lifes. That shows that he really cared about the kids really like stated in the video. He was a genuine funny man too and wasnt afraid to take a piss on himself on his later years. He did a comedy short series for the finnish broadcasting company YLE as part of some bigger comedy series where he would act as himself doing various jobs. (Tony Halme tv-lupatarkastajana is legendary one from the series) his comedy skills didnt end there. There was "major" movie made in finland called Ponterosa where he plays one of the leads and you can see he had talent for comedy thanks to his fast wits. The movie didnt do too good initially but that wasnt thanks to Halme, the plot is nonsensical to begin with but it has gathered a cult following and is named one of the best worst movies in finland ever. In one of his books there is a famous exchange he had when he was working as a bouncer in hollywood with Madonna and Sean Penn. Tony claims he was given the order from club manager to not let anyone in on the vip section. Madonna and Sean tried to get in and Tony denied their entry. Madonna threw a fit and asked him. "Dont you know who i am.?" to which Tony replied. "I dont care who you are. It only matters who I am." And Madonna asked, "Well who are you then?" to which Tony replied, "Im the guy who is not letting you in." Just wanted to share some good and funny things about him too. Im not defending him or his beliefs but these are the things i remember him the most. I was too young to see any of his wrestling stuff but i have seen later on some and his promos during his feud with Luger are pretty damn funny now.
@THEiNC. Жыл бұрын
I find it shocking how often they found unlicensed guns at his home and every time they took it away he just got himself a new one.
@TestarossaRocks Жыл бұрын
Gun laws don’t work
@BasementBubbatunde Жыл бұрын
Go all in on a crime series, even ones covered by Dsotr I wouldn't mind with Adams narration and you guys are usually great with your research on the docos
@JKimma8080 Жыл бұрын
So his dad did him exactly like Nelson's from The Simpsons lol..."Papa?"
@shawnbarron2455 Жыл бұрын
I think his life is the classic case of, "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning"
@armnhc84 Жыл бұрын
Never trust a man who’s going out to get cigarettes alone…😏
@Huutista762 Жыл бұрын
Giga chad, loved him. rip
@larrymorgan3158 Жыл бұрын
I used to love this dude when I was a kid. Wanted to be just like him
@machomusprime5011 ай бұрын
Hopefully that didn't happen 😂
@GAURAV25855ify5 ай бұрын
Good thing u.didnt
@seanm2600 Жыл бұрын
Amazing haircut
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
I would've s...hot myself if i had that haircut too
@worstcasescenario5242 Жыл бұрын
One thing that I dont get - is that most sources say that it was his ankle injury that ended his WWF-run, BUT he himself said that he hurt his back very badly wrestling with Scott Hall (Razor Ramon) - like Razor was trying to suplex him off the top rope and slipped and they both fell on the ground Scott in top of him.
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
Was it a botch
@worstcasescenario5242 Жыл бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 Major botch
@anakin.2956 Жыл бұрын
Could u imagine had WWE/F not dropping him? He coulda been a great heel, especially as champion. Maybe they saw him as being a liability, oh well 🤷🏾♂️
@BenJohnson0531 Жыл бұрын
Maybe? He’s entirely disreputable and repugnant. Him getting injured was a relief for WWF.
@anakin.2956 Жыл бұрын
@@BenJohnson0531 guess so, but it coulda changed him.... Maybe not 🤷🏾♂️
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
He will be a huge top heel, instead of Owen Hart
@masterthomas7872 Жыл бұрын
Take away his lifestyle of drinking, ideology, and violent tendency, he lived a really interesting life. From being a small time actor to wrestling in the biggest company to being a politician, I would say he led a great life. Too bad his attitude and behavior is what caused him to be almost forgotten.
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
Solid
@VinVonVoom14 күн бұрын
I think that's just how it works out, you can be driven and successful but that doesn't make you a good or bad person.
@tyrone5969 Жыл бұрын
When it all came crashing down it clearly hurt inside.
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
Hey man, not cool. How do you know he didn't take a stand? It never helped to hide.
@tyrone5969 Жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsUnavailable because he isnt a real American?
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
@@tyrone5969 He fought for the rights of the Finnish man. He fought for what's right. He fought for his life.
@HDX21 Жыл бұрын
I swear to God last night I was looking up some of his matches and some interviews about him just last night and to see this deep dive into his life It looks like you guys were in my mind thinking about him. Very interesting story and life of this man right here. And with all the stories about him he seems like a very miserable person to be around and all around bully.
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Жыл бұрын
He had his flaws but I don't think he was a bully. He was no stranger to violence but as a Finnish person I'm not aware of any incidents where he used his physical ability to intimidate an innocent person. He was quick to beat up challengers and criminals though. He pummeled a gang of thieves in Spain and once broke a rapist's arm after catching him in the act.
@Sockcucker96 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a biopic in a Finnish newspaper in the early 2000's about him, where they mentioned his time in the WWF. He apparently had stated that he'd left because the hectic touring schedule, but of course that's complete bullcrap on his accord.
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
He didn't said in details
@airwolfwwf Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite wrestlers ever I don't care if he got hurt he had potential to be champion in my eyes.. He just looks seriously legit trash into tatanka his association with yokozuna and chemistry look so well and seasoned I honestly wish they were tag team champions at one point
@jmreeves89 Жыл бұрын
Cultaholic Presents: Shadowed Side of the Ring...
@GlennLC Жыл бұрын
Fought also in the UFC againts Randy Couture
@RCT1963 Жыл бұрын
Hate gets you nowhere. Sorry, I’m wrong. It’s gets you an early grave
@Nbflowers1989 Жыл бұрын
These are always a tough watch, but kudos to the Cultaholic lads for bringing these stories to light.
@travisclark9134 Жыл бұрын
This dude used to scare me as a kid.
@MAHAManiac16 ай бұрын
What a sad story 😞
@nichhodge85035 ай бұрын
I’m just shocked hearing that Ludvig Borga was actually born Helsinki, Finland as rarely besides wrestlers from the UK, Japan, Mexico and Canada actually come from the country that they’re billed from like several wrestlers who were billed from the Soviet Union were actually from America in the 70’s and 80’s or in the 1950’s and 60’s you had wrestlers who pretended to be from Germany and played up the Nazi gimmick like Fritz Von Erich despite during the 50’s and 60’s most real Germans were trying their hardest to get away from anything to do with their Nazi past as they were ashamed of what had gone on in their country for at least a decade
@RisingJericho Жыл бұрын
I was almost sympathetic to the guy in the beginning... until it got to the SS tattoo on the back of his leg, and I'm just like "Yeah I'm good :)"
@Scorch1028 Жыл бұрын
To me, Ludvig Borga was a very believable heel. Just like Matt Borne, Tony Halme's true personality transferred over into his gimmick.
@qkomodo9098 Жыл бұрын
47 years of earth & he wasted all 47 years of it, with his heart....and tattoo
@jipsumies3435 Жыл бұрын
15:38 Midsummer, 2 weeks before the shooting incident, Tony Halme suffered a brain injury in an exhibition boxing match and took painkillers with alcohol on his holiday. His wife accused Tony of cheating and tried to eat his pills and the situation escalated
@bastardator6229 Жыл бұрын
Is this true? Wow...
@jipsumies3435 Жыл бұрын
@@bastardator6229 My channel is full of this stuff. Documentaries, highlights, matches, interviews and more rare stuff
@jipsumies3435 Жыл бұрын
@@bastardator6229 Halme gave his gun to his wife and told her to shoot him, then later they started wrestle with the gun
@lambvofvgod Жыл бұрын
More content like this please
@annamarieadobas1063 Жыл бұрын
I remember this wrestler, a tough guy.
@ericutube3921 Жыл бұрын
exit only is hilarious. and he's got a point
@binks24138 ай бұрын
I remember the dirty America promos with Ludvig Borga.
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
No amount of "bad childhood" excuses someone being a lifelong bigot and bully with an SS tattoo. Or a "rules for the but not for me" authoritarian who claims to be tough on crime for "those people" despite being a lifelong criminal himself. I'd say he shouldn't be missed, but unfortunately it seems like he's the kind of professional bully and voice of hate that gets support from a certain aspect of society, even in the comments on this video.
@BenJohnson0531 Жыл бұрын
This guy’s life is one that would make former boarish mayor of Philadelphia Frank Rizzo blush.
@ShowdeQuetzal Жыл бұрын
great video
@lilpoetat Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@glennrugar9248 Жыл бұрын
I guess this is before wwe offered free rehab to all former guys. Too bad. Might have helped this guy
@timburr4453 Жыл бұрын
Halme is awesome
@marvinalexander67963 ай бұрын
Be a great episode for Season 6 on Dark Side of the Ring
@lionsfan8235 Жыл бұрын
Had Nazi beliefs but was a body guard for Gene Simmons? Make it make sense 🤦♂️
@kevthegoat8774 Жыл бұрын
A job is a job
@JagerLange Жыл бұрын
"Why is the bloke off The Slingshot Channel in a Cultaholic video?" my just-woke-up brain asked upon seeing the thumbnail. Otherwise good work on another tough topic.
@xilon3 Жыл бұрын
Also: Tony Halme had lot of respect for veterans and pursued for their rights and benefits while in politics
@jipsumies3435 Жыл бұрын
He was honest and good in politics
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
Unless those veterans were gay or female or not white, presumably. But sure, spring to the defense of a bigot with an SS tattoo.
@xilon3 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderlustwarrior not trying to defend Halme mate, just wanted to point out there was some good on him too. It doesn't erase that he was a racist and had extreme ideals.
@EllahRah Жыл бұрын
_THE REAL BROCK LESNAR_
@TheeKingRayzor Жыл бұрын
Not even close.
@GAURAV25855ify5 ай бұрын
Please its an insult to brock lesnar
@SheltonHull Жыл бұрын
With the rightward drift in European politics, Halma might have been a star in Finnish politics if he was alive today.
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately.
@TheRealJDPerry Жыл бұрын
Dude was what stereotypes of "his sort" are based on, every single factor here is just painfully cliche.
@caseyhastings9219 Жыл бұрын
Failing media literacy when it comes to Taxi Driver (and now Joker, as well) is always a sign of right wing idiocy.
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
@@caseyhastings9219 seriously. I bet he'd have looked up to Tyler Durden from Fight Club, too.
@xjuhox6 ай бұрын
Tony's downfall began in 2003 when he had his completely unnecessary last boxing match for raising charity. He got badly beaten and started to selfmedicate his head injury with alcohol and painkillers.
@mringram Жыл бұрын
Crazy story
@devious187 Жыл бұрын
Man, someone's gotta find that cigarette store from the 50's and 60's, so many fathers must be there lol Something to be wary of when you push new young talent to the moon, it tends to inflate the ego to seriously problematic levels... I mean if you're new to the business, and they have you dominating and going over FUCKING VADER every night in Japan, how can you not start thinking you're the shit?
@bobbyjohnson94093 ай бұрын
Brock Lesnar’s dad
@turvis94 Жыл бұрын
Always a real Viikinki
@Millwall77 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in the real world-there were no Finnish vikings. Finnish people who claim to be vikings in one way or another always crack me up.
@turvis94 Жыл бұрын
@@Millwall77 Lättys kii
@Millwall77 Жыл бұрын
@@turvis94 Yes, with mustard.
@calvanfoster8522 Жыл бұрын
This goes on and on. Doesn't the narrator ever take a breath.
@johnnypericles1353 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those stories that makes me wonder if someone could have helped him. If his dad didn't leave, or if someone put him on the right path as a kid maybe he wouldn't have ended up such a shit head. Maybe. It is a sad story.
@ArcherSuh4721 Жыл бұрын
It must have been very frustrating for Ludvig Borgia... Even before he really got started, he was already Finnish