Vince McMahon & WWE Lawsuit UPDATE | Tony Khan Merging ROH & AEW?

[@wriththing9489]

ROH is no longer it's own promotion now it's just another brand under AEW

[@joker-sh5hv]

Yes, when media companies see a value in the AEW brand, you can increase ROHs value by putting the AEW brand on top of it. If you don’t see the value, it explains why you’re not in the position rich people are.

[@PincheBrayan101]

@@joker-sh5hvwe all see the value because it has potential to be great again but ROH product isn’t good at all right now. But to be fair for Tony even before he bought ROH, product was still bad.

[@GojiEm]

I feel like TK made the decision to buy ROH was more from the heart than a business decision. It feels to me, and this is just me, like when Vince bought WCW and ECW. But that's more of Vince being a deranged, petty man child who wants to own the world.

[@pooldead7712]

​@GojiEm Tony bought roh so that wwe couldn't. He bought it all for the right reasons, but it just hasn't gotten off its feet yet.

[@GojiEm]

@@pooldead7712 WWE would've probably made ROH into a pseudo NXT of sorts, a development brand for newer talent, and probably would've put ROH stars on WWE tv, getting ROH more mainstream exposure than being hidden behind a paywall.

[@zacharymicah]

Ring of Honor shouldn't be behind an online paywall, it needs to be televised. It's been around longer than AEW.

[@ryanvazquez2301]

For real like KZbin or something until it gets a big audience at least

[@DKCG0113]

Just because it's been around longer doesn't mean it's more worthy of anything. If Khan didn't buy it, it would've gone under.

[@DKCG0113]

​@@ryanvazquez2301they absolutely should've put it on KZbin

[@pooldead7712]

​@DKCG0113 if Tony didn't buy it, wwe would have bought it.

[@DKCG0113]

@@pooldead7712 but wwe would’ve done what should have been done: keep the tape library and liquidate the company.

[@dano_the_collector8421]

ROH should be AEW’s NXT

[@sayethvexus8332]

It pretty much is at this point.

[@TheOnlyMJS]

@@sayethvexus8332If it was it’d be more successful. It’s basically AEW Dark.

[@bashamd96]

​@@TheOnlyMJS That's an insult to Dark

[@darryllmcgee]

​@TheOnlyMJS It would not be any more successful.

[@maosin666]

As a fan of ROH that started watching in 2012... merging AEW and ROH is the only right option. The company has never been in a worse place and shape than now. TK bought it, gave it a new hope and ultimately put it on the shelf where it's slowly rotting without anyone remembering how great things used to be. Quite frankly it's already sad that this is how this legendary company dies... but let's put it out of it's misery.

[@ImakittyLAWL]

People act like TK killed ROH but the truth is, bobody wanted to televise it. ROH was dead and TK kept it on life support. Hes now considering making it a sorta NXT to AEW and that's a great idea.

[@darryllmcgee]

​@@ImakittyLAWL Regardless of what you want to believe, Tony Khan did kill ROH.

[@turtlehead2]

It was sold to Tony but has never been in worse shape? Yeah ok.

[@nivision]

​@@darryllmcgeeTK bought it to keep it from dying point blank. it's been dying for ages. you wanna go back to the first big blow on ROHs decline, blame Rob Feinstein and not the guy you already didn't like who just tried to throw a bunch of expensive life preservers when it was practically already too late.

[@robking6975]

If i remember rightly, and im way out of date on US data protection law, requests for medical records are protected by the HIPPA laws, and patients have rights to get accurate medical files regardless of any stay in other related legal cases. Vince's lawyers appear to be reaching.

[@theghosty99]

We do have that right here, and you'd like to think that would supercede the stay, but who knows when it comes to how stays work exactly.

[@Steven-cf1ty]

Getting these files through discovery is the contention. If she merely requested them for personal medical use it'd be different, but continuing to get evidence through discovery while a case has a stay doesn't exactly look good.

[@darcreave2683]

Dig the Godzilla shirt Sam!

[@j.nicolosi6647]

I got that same shirt (which also has stuff on the back) at Hot Topic mere weeks ago

[@TheGoondas87]

Vince: we would like to object to the gathering of medical documents for evidence Judge: what is the reasoning for your objection? Vince: because it would be damning to my case

[@hugoalynstephens9166]

"BECAUSE I'M VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON, DAMNIT!"

[@ImageNationProject]

People forget that when Black was still in WWE, people hated his cryptic promos. I watched some old Cultaholic podcasts n they were all meh on it too. He needs a real good strong story. Copeland was fun. I want him to get a title and Buddy and Brody grab the tags.

[@RyboltTech]

Beth Phoenix vs Nick Wayne's Mom let's go lol

[@82gamerprincess31]

I’ve said this before about ROH since Tony has bought it, it’s consistent. Good matches, excellent event shows, building or rebranding talent, and everything with Athena/Starks is gold. It reminds me of the Black/Gold era of NXT. It’s rebuilt so many acts like Angelico/Serpentico becoming very popular, Letting Griff find a personality, The Infantry, etc. It’s a place for those new or lost in the shuffle to thrive and an excellent place to scout new talent like the Outrunners or Lady Frost for example who started as ROH enhancement.

[@1KQ_]

What an odd blatantly wrong comparison

[@Filmation77]

And ive noticed this ,even with Commentary team ,they talk about the PAST of ROH too much ,and ROH for its time was innovative workrate wise , but it cant be anymore cause a lot of talent in the big leagues wrestle like ROH ,so what purpose does ROH have Now? Its an ROH tribute show now

[@Mr_Oggie]

The only surprise that AEW got an attendance of 81,000 at Wembley is when these UK wrestling channels all keep saying how surprised they were... when its a market that has a large fanbase and never gets live shows it shouldn't be surprising that people come from far and wide to attend. Its why WWE went to London last year for Money in the Bank: they were having a hard time selling tickets for the event when it was in North America in 2022 and 2023, but they go to London, charge a premium for seats and sell the place out.

[@LordLlama-k6l]

Aew haven't reached 50K ticket sales though this time around. So yes. 81K was a surprise. All In is a month away and they're lurking at around 45K sales.

[@MrSniperfox29]

I swear, 10 years from now, Tony will still be prattling on about Wembley

[@WarEagle1023]

​@MrSniperfox29 WWE still spouts on about Wrestlemania 3 and that happened over 30 years ago. Your whataboutism is incredible. Teach me your ways

[@MrSniperfox29]

​@@WarEagle1023 But they don't do it in response to current events, they only bring it up when actually relevant This is mainly because they don't need to, they don't have to distract anyone from anything. All Tony can do in response to any talk about how he failed to fill venues is "but what about the time we didn't actually have 81K at Wembley"

[@CB-ci5ys]

AEW didn't sell 81,000 tickets. They only sold 50,000! The numbers they told were 54,000 bought. Them rest were given away. I know cause I got 30 of them for FREE!!!

[@RageyRage82]

Just turn Collision into ROH. With the feel of it lately, I think it would fit. They have 3 shows a week, two for AEW, one for ROH would be fine. When I saw Collision last time, that's what I was thinking. That's what it reminded me of. It just gave me ROH vibes.

[@Tim_is_a_hooligan]

A lot of “Fans” forget how close ROH was to disappearing forever before Khan bought it, could it be better yes . I personally think ROH could be a hot product as AEWs NXT. Quit putting ROH belts on AEW all the time and give up and commers a chance to develop with visits from ROH legends and other promotions .

[@MrKilligan]

I see ROH now as more parallel to NXT and I think that works for the most part. AEW has 3 "main roster" shows as is. If they decide to elevate ROH to a third brand situation, I think it would need to replace Rampage altogether. Regardless, the biggest issue is that there is currently no distinction between AEWs main shows other than we know that all of the major stuff happens on Dynamite, then Collision has some important things, to Rampage being mostly filler. There needs to be a more defined identity for each show. Maybe that means a roster split. The debut of Collision felt like that initially until the Punk fiasco.

[@Biffo316]

Lost interest in wrestling about 2 years ago but getting back into it now thanks the work channels like yourselves do. Fair play lads.

[@dasallmaechtigeJ]

What’s to merge? ROH is a dead brand. The titles are more on AEW then they are on ROH anyways, nothing would change. He should cancel ROH altogether and merge all titles in a huge blow-off PPV.

[@thequartersfooty]

I've said that all along as well, its time to send off ROH.

[@nivision]

if they convert it into something like NXT, it's hope for those underused to have room to prove themselves and develop a little more, establish more storylines. it just doesn't need to be paywalled.

[@ryanvazquez2301]

Beth & Adam Vs Taya and Johnny would be awesome

[@ChrisFactor]

Good morning from California gents 🌄

[@vonhuestis77]

Fellow Californian!

[@jameshoare9457]

I’m not the biggest AEW fan but I will say I don’t mind ROH being rebranded as AEW presents ROH as long as it replaces the Friday show… Not Collision on Saturday but the Friday one

[@jaws848]

She has already won.....she has taken him down,got him removed from wwe and forced him to sell the majority of his stock which was worth a hell of a lot more than the 3 million.... oh vince,for all your "power" and money look at where you are now

[@dasallmaechtigeJ]

Doubt he cares. He has 10 more escorts like her lined up and is pushing 80. He will drag out the process and kick the bucket before anything serious materializes.

[@MrSniperfox29]

You win by making a man a multiple billionaire....

[@TheIllustriouBlueJay]

​@MrSniperfox29 he already was, dude.

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@TheIllustriouBlueJay Not as much as he is now, she literally made him the richest he's ever been What a win by her dude

[@seansines]

@@MrSniperfox29the money won’t mean half as much as the power did. Billionaires are driven by ego as much as anything

[@RagingUtai]

I don't think bret hart will ever get a break. Vince mcmahon was his father figure, made amends after a long time, and now has to deal with vince with these allegations, and the guilt of having defended vince against the sexual assault allegations brought to vince many years ago, which bret defended and now feels like a fool and ashamed.

[@MrSniperfox29]

Sometimes X is pushed really well and sometimes it's "where the fuck is he" Congratulations, you just described most of their roster.

[@rulerofall015]

Mcmahon is playing dirty and smart. Hes saying, "Yes, you have documents, but are they legitimate? Also if it is, why is so difficult for you to get them?" If Mcmahon gets this motion, he can probably get that not used in court and any further reference from her about the documents could put her in contempt of court.

[@BetterCallJamie]

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear…

[@jtown1022]

The baseball diamond from Field of Dreams is still up in Dyersville, Iowa. They still host sporting events. It's not outside the realm of possibility.

[@DKCG0113]

I don't think he would've mentioned a rebranding if it wasn't already in the works

[@deondre4057]

I assumed once edge was gone Beth was gonna show up in AEW

[@grobewonkenobi6727]

That Godzilla shirt though.....

[@Dr_1212]

Jail vince

[@lfckibbles]

Sam has more looks than Rey at this point! Love it

[@ec906]

ROH died along time ago. Punk v Joe at Wembley was the unofficial end of RoH

[@anthonymacgregor9790]

legally ROH Acquisition Co, LLC owns the ROH assets and Tony Khan owns ROH Acquisition Co, LLC

[@john-michaeljardin6396]

I think AEW should make ROH into AEWs version of NXT... but because he wants to be in control of everything he's ego isn't letting it be as big as it can

[@godzillawarz]

Sam Driver rocking a killer Godzilla shirt

[@DarthTerrax]

You cant fool me. I know thats really Walt Disney.

[@DoctorLazers]

I just don't know why this guy would be brought in, join this macabre, gotgic faction, and call himself Buddy. Like, Malachai Black, Brody King those are badass names. Buddy Matthews just sounds like a regular dude.

[@joker-sh5hv]

Tk should absolutely brand ROH as an AEW product. Just like nxt is “WWE NXT” How much harder would it be for NXT to get TV deals if it had no brand tie to WWE? People just clearly have no business mind, or want a reason to hate AEW

[@jpzombie3390]

Honestly, seeing Lethal and Castle jobbing so hard breaks my heart a little. Khan is a schmoe in my stupid opinion. Whoever is booking there needs to stop. It's predictable to the point of being painful to watch sometimes. I will never forgive Jarret losing to Hangman after getting literally everyone behind him. I mean, even Kofi got the belt after the crowd demanded it in WWE.

[@flippineck2825]

Beth vs Saraya lets go

[@glitchsister]

at this point Ring of Honor would have a better chance on the Roku channel then behind a paywall

[@masarothgames]

Getting rid of Ring of Honor would be a genius idea. It's no different than the bastardized version of ECW that WWE ran years ago. It will allow focus on one brand as well.

[@RachaelBluee]

Edge should go back to retired

[@Jeremy-NYFAM]

ROH used to have a deep talent pool

[@CommanderJohnSmith]

"She's not allowed to have more evidence of my crimes" is the manfact of the day.

[@Nitemerican]

I mean if you wanna get away with said crimes you do everything you can right?

[@alext5340]

Vince, you can run but you can’t hide.

[@xenaires]

Vince needs to slither off into a dark hole. Let HHH run it. He's done a great job so far.

[@VanCraic]

By the time they hit fourth grade They've got the Discovery janel, don't they?

[@metal13panda76]

I always thought beth left with edge/Adam

[@MrNext2None]

I wonder why they don't treat Ring of Honor as their develomental system? as great as the company's history is it has always been that develomental proving ground for larger companies.

[@luvmusicutb]

Looks like ROH is going the way of WCW & ECW

[@YoutubeConnoisseur]

An AEW show in a U.S. stadium? Lol not a chance

[@JeffHardyfan316]

Roh shouldn't be canceled. Somebody needs to book roh instead of Tony Khan. Khan basically killed ROH and made ROH AEW ROH.

[@Mu1ty]

I have that Godzilla shirt!

[@SteanPP]

Canny wait til this whole vince thing is over with so we can stop talking about him.

[@patrickcrider6167]

I need a Godzilla shirt just like that one.

[@SKMCTV]

AEW could never fill a football stadium in America.

[@ringobarooka3192]

Ultraman movie on Netflix is lit just sayin

[@lean.2366]

Sam looking cute with the hair omg

[@charlesoliviera]

Who's watching from Minnesota?

[@TheUncleWulf]

I´m from Austria xD

[@biig_silva]

I don't feel it would be sacrilegious to rebrand ROH, I would find it useless. You have the chance to re-do the Invasion storyline waaaaaaay better (That can End with, for Example, ROH taking over Collision and keeping it at its flag show), why would You rebrand the thing then?

[@patchworkpants]

RoH was dead the moment is was bought out by Tony. It's just the C brand of AEW with the same terrible booking quality that AEW has.

[@takeova9201]

Regargerding Vince...If it's not in mainstream news you can bet you're bottom dollar it's just a show in a show (entertainment only )

[@ravenna99]

Sees vince a clicks quickly... here we go again

[@trinitheuceyone2492]

Oh… no…. Beth who hasn’t been active staff since.. since… 🙃it’s gonna be devastating to wwe to lose such an inactive star that’s technically retired ………

[@hezekiahramirez6965]

10:12 All 13 of them?

[@KillianJones114]

ROH new NXT

[@Yugioh420]

Merge it, might as well delete it. Same thing as WWE owning WCW but doing nothing with it. But worse because there going to use what name recognition it does have to push there development players. It would be like if NXT was actually called WWE's WCW.

[@NADV500]

AEW NEEDS to get rid of Rampage and just make it AEW Ring Of Honor much better name much better brand.

[@lesliewatkins4367]

Ring of honor should rebrand from Macon Ga USA ❤❤❤❤❤from aew period

[@FreeGunzz]

Merge the AEW and ROH world titles

[@Osmundsaddler-4]

I hope Vince Mcmahon dont come back again

[@kapahakadude]

Ring of honor should be run as rampage.

[@Ish4MyIggans]

Mami getting Buddy paid!😂

[@arthurj.downeyjr_2013]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@juliodepierola297]

🕵️‍♀️

[@razorramon7573]

The merging of both AEW and ROH will mean that instead of it being two promotions that nobody watches, it will just be one promotion that nobody watches! 😁

[@grahamwebb1367]

aew clambering to sign ex wwe talent? D: stunned

[@Osmundsaddler-4]

What are you talking about? Did you realy think i'd trust an american? To tell you the truth i was contemplating how to get rid of him but thanks to you that's no longer nesecary

[@jaws848]

He is truly screwed and is now running scared more than ever

[@Sevenduece]

This is chewbacca.... Chewbacca is a wookie who lives on endor. Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

[@owl509]

I appreciate this comment. South Park is the best

[@BetterCallJamie]

AEW in a nutshell

[@SirAsdf]

The fact he wants to ban her from using her own medical documents tells me he knows how guilty they'll make him.

[@kirbyloks]

I believe when this lawsuit goes to court Vince would be dead because isn’t he in his late 70’s or early 80’s and all the stress with this and loosing his company. I don’t think he’ll make it till then

[@alexdevine760]

Nice to see everyones favorite Lesbian Auntie is back

[@THEpopelonergan]

“I don’t know quite how this process works legally…” Then please don’t provide pointless conjecture. It’s so frustrating. There’s enough speculative nonsense being promulgated on the internet already. Especially via. “Alternative media”. We don’t need a layman providing legal summary on a wrestling channel. When it comes to reporting on any wrestling adjacent legal cases, read the news story and leave it there (unless fully researched and contextualised). Be responsible broadcasters. FOR INSTANCE: the discovery process isn’t just a fishing expedition (as you seemed to indicate).

[@WrathNBrimstone]

Edge and Beth need to go back into retirement and off screen, they're so boring

[@benespinosa6725]

Tony khan doesn't need to merge AEW and ROH just get rid of ROH or make it a developmental system for AEW that could work instead of merging it Beth Phoenix in AEW I like that idea and also hate it because that pushes the agenda of AEW signing anybody that had name value in WWE but this might eork since adam copeland is in AEW and beth does the intro to Edge's theme AEW can sell out arenas in the UK and they can't in the US AEW still has problems mainly the awful commentary Excalibur isn't equipped to do play-by-play commentary he and tony Schiavone bring the show down it'll be better off without them if AEW wants to be taken seriously they're terrible on commentary.

[@benespinosa6725]

​@Jamieb1994 that's an even better idea I was thinking about AEW making ROH a developmental system because AEW really doesn't have one maybe ROH becomes their version of NXT with call ups to AEW and sending people to ROH but I like your idea better.

[@markfrank3307]

OMG YOU SAY NOTHING!!! FREE VINCE!!!!!

[@gtrour4]

(WWE) Creative needs to consider pairing Stephanie Vanquer & Davenport as Tag-Team Witches (🧹🧹) for Priest (⚖️)🏆 & to shutdown Jade Cargrill (💪🏽) & Bianca (💪🏽)