Madusa, The WWE Women's Championship & The Trash Can | War Stories

War Stories Episode 10: In the world of professional wrestling in 1995, chaos reigned supreme. From the moment WCW Monday Nitro rolled out on TNT, there wasn't anything meek about Eric Bischoff's creation - in fact, aggression was its currency. The lengths Bischoff went to would have you believe that, compared to WCW, WWE was little more than wretched garbage, so much so that by the end of 1995, Bischoff authorized a literal demonstration of that notion - with the help of a recent defection: Madusa.
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[@flmbyz]

Alundra Blayze was someone who always deserved better than what she got from both promotions. One can’t help but feel the only place where her talents were truly able to be on display was in Japan. In that respect, the same could be said for every single woman wrestler that was mentioned in this chapter.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Especially Monster Ripper/Bertha Faye. She was very good in Japan and made a 🤡 over here.

[@flmbyz]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter 100% agree there. She was never given a fair chance in America, despite getting moments of showing how powerful of a wrestler she was.

[@flmbyz]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter 100% agree there. She was never given a fair chance in America, despite getting moments of showing how powerful of a wrestler she was.

[@RustieFawn]

No, she didn’t. No one’s interested in womens wrestling. Lucky she ever had a job.

[@Biffo316]

I love this series. Can we also bring back Jack's "Captivating career of....."

[@jspeer419]

That's my FAVORITE series

[@bunyan4.20]

@@jspeer419 yea ro borh od you but also The True Story Of Series is good to

[@kraxosOBK]

I mean, that's basically what his new series is

[@aye_its_karate6169]

No we can’t bring it back. But I can ask you to shut the hell up😂😉

[@steve_jackson9933]

The funny thing about that whole event was that nothing was done before or after with women wrestlers. The last WWE women wrestler was Wendy Richter, around 1984. After Madusa went to WCW, nothing. It took years before the WWE had women wrestling with Lita being one of the first ones to really set the stage.

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

you forgot about Sensational Sherri= 1987-88 for 441 days Rockin' Robin 1988 until the belt discountenance in 1990

[@thatguyfromak5190]

The 90s were rough for women. Both WWF and WCW and north american wrestling as a whole didn't view them as worth anything. It was only the work of Trish, Lita, Chyna, and hell, even Sable who got women on TV in a wrestling capacity again (Sable's intergender matches with Marc Mero did a lot more than people give credit for)

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

@@thatguyfromak5190 women wrestling between 1993-99 wasnt popular as the 80s! Eric in more didnt really care about women wrestling!

[@user-hc9qv9yb9m]

But not Jacqueline?

[@ftw1980]

You must of fortabout the all to sexy Trish stratus

[@DeckyStrikesBack]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, never stop making this series.

[@theSANDMAN366]

This deserves more likes

[@andrewannis5733]

I’m DYING for the Philly Indy Wars, that’s been promised in the credits since the beginning!

[@MrBeardsley]

Apparently Bischoff used the promise of building a proper women’s division around Madusa to sell her on trashing the belt, considering that never happened I’m not surprised she didn’t stick around WCW for long.

[@imoutotrash390]

There was a women's belt for a second but it quickly went away without madusa even winning it.

[@danielfranz6560]

wasn't madusa in wcw till almost the end though?

[@franknfoot7200]

Thank you for this Cultaholic

[@JGriffinStar84]

This series to me is up there with Dark side of the ring. So many stories to be done. Well done and great job.

[@waltersims5428]

I love these war stories, the Monday night war is the gift that keeps on giving. S/n My mind went completely to the left when i heard "super heroine"

[@greenkoopa]

Not to be confused with Mega Heroin

[@Smansi_da_randumb]

Can't wait for the 2021 version where they throw the women's tag team championships since that's basically how they're treated

[@032adjutantreflex]

Nia Jax is literally one of the worst wrestlers I've seen and she hasn't improved in the three years I've been aware of her breaking faces and ending careers

[@Smansi_da_randumb]

@@032adjutantreflex agreed... That's all shes ever doing when she's not putting lana through a table

[@JaimeD.]

Thank you, Sam Driver, for another worthy tale from the Monday Night Wars. Stay safe and healthy.

[@FlyBoyEnterprises]

When you go back to this moment in wrestling history, THIS was THE flashpoint, THE catylist for the Montreal Screwjob. Vince didn't want a repeat of this. If he didn't cut the women's division due to cost cutting measures, the Montreal Screwjob would never have happened. Even stripping her of the title before she left. But yeah, her career in WCW really skyrocketed. They did NOTHING with the women's division.

[@tjjordan4207]

The fear that Bischoff was going to have Bret Hart show up with the WWF title on Nitro to repeat the same event as the Women's title doesn't make sense when considering a few things. The first being that the WWF sued WCW over the matter and won, which Bischoff would not have dared to repeat that again, especially when it's the main title this time. Second, regardless of how Hart felt about leaving for WCW, he wouldn't have shown up with the WWF title on Nitro. He was ultimately a loyal guy. And third, Bret had an extension to appear on Raw in order to drop the title, which he agreed to. He even was willing to drop the title to anyone other than Shawn Michaels at Survivor Series. Maybe Vince just purely feared that Bret would do it, or Bischoff would attempt to have it happen somehow, but there's no way that it was going to happen. The worst that would have happened was Bischoff announcing Bret Hart coming on over to WCW, which the public was just beginning to learn about.

[@echobay2023]

I gotta say the entire presentation of this video is superb. Great narration, excellent editing, music choice, even the graphics and transitions are clean as hell. Ton of effort went into this and you can tell.

[@crooker23]

these war stories are what keep me watching this channel, great job

[@mattrasbury7539]

Always amazing, but you know that. Oh and I really don't wanna be at work right now..this helps. Anyway good morning.

[@meztizo_americano86]

Cultaholic Wrestling and Wrestling Bios are great Channels

[@BasementBubbatunde]

The faces Heenan pulls in that segment will never not make me laugh 😂

[@RobQuincyAdams]

This channel is awesome!! I learned a few new things from this video, one of which I always wondered about but never enough about to think to look into. I always thought Bobby's stunned reaction was legit but I was never quite sure. Really enjoying these "War Stories" videos!! Thanks for all the work you guys put into these.

[@JamesNettum]

Excellent entry in an excellent series.

[@mrwil11]

My all time favorite, thanks for putting this video together 💙💙💙

[@brian_keith]

I really enjoyed this series. i really loved the music pieces as well. i hope another 18 episodes are made to comtinue this excellent series. Cheers!!

[@GerritCoulter]

Every Sunday I hope and pray for another episode of this series.

[@andreaswiesheu2240]

Why Vince could not sign new contracts with his champions or have them lose the belts in time, i will never get....

[@JaimeD.]

Maybe Vinny Mac never thought it was necessary to do that at the time.

[@ananyaraizada7657]

Even in 2021 he forgot that Adam Cole's contract is expiring and gave him an extension

[@dasdeke]

Love these!! Great job!!

[@caseybillings9685]

This is the best series you guys do. I love them.

[@Norma-uc8dy]

Alundra had 6 televised matches in WWF in 1995. She had 10 in WCW 1996 (including Sherri, Col Tom Parker, and Bertha Faye)... WCW had little offer, but WWF had nothing at all. In the long run, she needed a fresh feud with someone else, but on the positive side, she had about 4 years in WCW and even faced Meng and Haku, and was part of Macho Man's groupie stable.

[@DoctorLazers]

Crazy how much WWE did cross-promotion with Japan back in the day. Seems unimaginable today.

[@viajaycay]

Aja Kong faced Blayze and has also faced the likes of Riho and Hikaru Shida. That is longevity

[@TheThethemaster]

I love this series soooooo much. Great work!

[@Guitarfreak496]

Always look forward to these 🙌🙌

[@davehelix]

These videos are incredible 👏

[@period8705]

And I believe that Heanan was in shock because when Flair went to WWF with the big gold belt he didn't crap on it and treated it well. Madusa literally threw the wwf women's championship belt in the trash on Monday Nitro on live national television.

[@joeyl7656]

I could listen to Sam and watch these videos ALL day! Phenomenal work!!

[@thesession2181]

Absolutely love this channel

[@stewietk]

This is so good man

[@joeyl7656]

This is without a doubt one of my favorite series! One question though.... I’ve got to research but it looks like the “Augusta tapings” were actually held in Savannah, Georgia (hence the large neon SCAD sign around the 10 minute mark of the video). My son goes to school at SCAD so I’m curious.... Great video though!!!

[@sandman6088]

Holy shit, Aja Kong never ages

[@veryananduren8513]

Time shows up to gives her age, and she probably turn him into a bretzel before eating him.

[@paulcosta353]

Best show on channel fact

[@newgondiwatergate]

I'm from and live in Augusta Ga, and that street photo is not from my hometown. It's from Savannah. Please get the right photos for your presentations. Good video though

[@MrIkon83]

In fairness the guys are based in Newcastle England. They have to take what Google says is an image of the place.

[@alancotter4825]

Great as always Sam. Can Jack bring back “Captiviting career of ...”? Another great series

[@iBMcFly]

I just re-watched this a week ago! Vince cut her off for like 20 years. 😹

[@slip1914]

This was EXCEPTIONAL.

[@crushercallahan3304]

Madusa was not "off TV after 2000". she appeared all the time on TNN, and later SPEED Channel, in Monster Jam! in late 1999, PACE motorsports, who owned the Monster Jam promotion at the time, signed a deal with WCW to run 6 trucks under different names like Goldberg, Sting, the NWO, Nitro Machine, Bret The Hitman Hart(cancelled after his concussion), and Madusa. Debra herself ended up driving the truck for it's entire stint as a regular season entrant from 2000. after WWE bought WCW and ECW in 2001, she stayed in the monster truck driving gig, grabbing the 2005 World Finals Racing Championship in very muddy and difficult conditions! against the reigning champion Grave Digger, too! she also managed a 3 way tie in freestyle the previous year. she later "defected" to team Bigfoot in 2007, who used to be the WCW team in the 90s before leaving Monster Jam in 98. monster trucks and wrestling used to be intertwined, whether hardcore fans of either sport liked it or not lol

[@moonsaves]

If only they'd put half of the modern day WWE championships in the bin.

[@ShowdeQuetzal]

I LOVE THIS SERIES

[@tamzidmohsinkhan3333]

Madusa is legend

[@tsstevensts]

By Shawn's own admission, in meeting with Vince and Triple H over Brett refusing to drop the title to Shawn, Haitch labelled Blayze as the reason they had to take the title off him. This was after being encouraged to speak up, and Shawn said just double cross Hart, screw him. Jim Cornette also suggested a screwjob. Now this might seem like Shawn being Shawn and remembering it wrong, or "remembering" it wrong, lying. I point to evidence of Triple H being portrayed as the instigator of forcing Brett to do business, such as in WWE 13, as evidence that yeah, he is comfortable with whatever legal challenges there might be, he stands by defending the title's image. Mick Foley also voiced how there were concerns Hart could be made to drop the title in the rubbish, citing Blayze as the instigator. Remember he quit over the screwjob and was later talked into coming back.

[@jessebunnell6442]

I am a faithful WWE guy and even I have to say that this is all on Vince. WHY would you let her keep the damn belt? This is on Vince McMahon for sure. I also dont think it was THAT big of a deal. Not many people would even know what that title was. It showed up so little and got no build at all means it was probably not recognized by very many people at the time so it likely had very little meaning in the wars Imo and I dont blame Blaze(Medusa) at all

[@lilpoetat]

thanks!

[@CorrineFerguson]

Its a massive shame because along with madusa, bertha faye/rhonda sing could have been a massive star.

[@GrtSage]

Did WCW even make a women’s division after this event? It took WWF 3 years to reinstate their division but it still wasn’t legitimate.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Somewhat.

[@Chigen_Atomic]

I feel like a lot of the more recent comments on the controversy is hindsight. After getting thrown by the wayside on more than one occasion, she was more than willing to toss it. Her comments would have had more oomph if she had been honest and told the audience that she was fired while she was champion. Even with the billions involved in wCw at the time, the title would likely not have appeared purely for the legal hoops they'd need to jump through.

[@DriftKing18594]

12:04 POG BISCHOFF POG BISCHOFF

[@loganturnermedia]

“In Augusta, Georgia...” *Shows a clip of Savannah, Georgia*

[@jphasson]

The nerve.....

[@jphasson]

Awww snap! NU WAR STORIES!!

[@missingjakeva]

Can I suggest for the thumbnail design. Can you not have a red bar at the bottom.I honestly thought KZbin was telling me I had already watched this.

[@jerransperarman9411]

good video

[@period8705]

Can you make a video about the "black scorpion"?

[@libertyiloyanomon8204]

This is how the wwf women's division was treated 😠😡🤬

[@randymanmaximus8419]

Have to wonder if the Montreal Screw Job would have happened had this not happened.

[@Chimidway88]

That still shot image of her at the Hall of Fame is really creepy!!!!!!!

[@DasKame]

Note: It alaways bugged me that the Belt take down the Trashbag! Someboy had to pull that out at the end of the Day!

[@llopnikgaharrison3136]

In the end, it's WWE's fault. Releasing Blaze all sudden. WCW didn't capitalize like they should've.

[@eatpigsnot]

intellectual property aside, isn't the championship belt the physical property of the company, not whoever is champion? i'm surprised promotions don't hold the last paycheck until the belts are returned. though in this case it sounds like WWF did not care much about the belt, physically or intellectually

[@bigd5650]

SHAT IS THE MUSIC WHEN THE ITRODUCYION PLAYS

[@thefiggamehunt6946]

Best narrator since Morgan Freeman

[@JadePharaoh]

When they jobbed her out almost immediately to Col. Parker, tho... (following a number of sexist promos) I thought, so much for that move...

[@KastleKrossface]

I miss Wrestling

[@jordcarter2359]

😳 dude. You just called the belt a prop?

[@savage751]

Wow can't believe the Japanese wrestlers worked after leaving Saturday taking an 18 hour flight and working Sunday night......after a 2 hour flight to Florida I need at least 2 days to recover lol

[@thebipolarbear1]

Gotta honor the long traditional ways on the way out pal

[@zurin6556]

Then after the Trash Bin Incident ... Madusa never ever be the champion in WCW ... What a doubt..

[@mattloveskelly1]

No mention of her Royal Rumble return...

[@KylePrime_1986]

I can't believe how poorly both companies used women in this era. Madusa was so ahead of her time, of she was wrestling today she'd be all over tv

[@bealgates8594]

Vibe was so pissed they made her take it out at her half of fame lol

[@arthurlefebvre7255]

Happy 26th

[@KylePrime_1986]

WCW didn't even make her woman's champion

[@camionerosfurgoneros5915]

GREAT WRESTLER I THINK SHE WAS AHEAD OF TIME

[@SheriffOutlaw]

Ahem. WARRRRRRR STORIES. 😁✌

[@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022]

If madusa can do this and STILL be allowed to come back to the wwe, there's no reason to think guys like cm punk,Moxley, or Jericho wont come back either.

[@nicholasokeefe3632]

Jericho will, Mox would never go back without Vince destroying him. Punk himself wont come back, maybe for Brock money but he needs a story

[@jeffreygunn3150]

All of this is assuming that either company gave a shit about the women’s division, which, of course, they didn’t.

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

Will this happen will there be a hog pen mud match will we see this happen.

[@scaparapadoobedoooo3170]

A tousand tank yous mr kevin keegan sir, bud bud ding ding

[@johnriley7312]

I think Vince has never liked Women's wrestling, even today I still think he doesn't see much in it

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

When will you and Missy gonna face each other four this hog pen mud match with both of you

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

An this is why Bret couldn't be allowed to keep the belt on the way out. Eric has nearly flat out said that was his end game with Bret. He had no other plans. An that is why Bret's run was shit an no one was protecting him.

[@theradgegadgie6352]

Every time I've heard him mention it he says precisely the opposite.

[@arthurdsouza10]

He had a month or 2 on his contract so the screw job was pointless.

[@danielanti5808]

Day 1 of getting Cultaholic to reply to my comment with the word ballsack

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

Wear will the hog pen.gonna be at when you both tak each other on and wresl each other in the mud

[@charlesberg1234]

Ive

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

You hav been called out you hav been challenged by Missy hayyt to a return mud wresling match with Missy will you tak her on will you wresl Missy in a mud wresling match

[@spunchbob2322]

.

[@kyleshiflet9952]

It was funny when you got Ric Flair and the big gold belt but it's not so funny vince when it happens to you

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

This fuwed with you madusa and Missy Hyatt has to be finished that's whey having both of you facing each other in side of a hog pen filled with real mud four you two ta hav this hog pen figth with Missy Hyatt

[@gamekeeper777]

Given the legal ramifications if they did the thing they just did knowing the ramifications from an earlier evennt....Single worst piece of writing ive ever heard there. They knew the ramifications of Madusa doing what she did from the Big Gold belt ordeal and did it, how in the bloody hell does that destroy the Screjob narrative in any way? Like legit that was the most insane broken cricular logic ive ever fucking heard. We know Vince had a thousand options other than doing what they did in Montreal, but no this in no way shape or form destroys the argument, thats just pure logic fail.

[@ftw1980]

In then she dint do shit

[@greenkoopa]

Too bad she was lied to. A women's division that actually has wrestling is more appealing to my eyeballs than sweaty beef mountains

[@j.b.gruberiiiesq6582]

First

[@johnnypavkovich6238]

Missy wants a hog pen mud match will you madusa wresl Missy in a first time ever hog pen mud match with Missy Hyatt will there be this match will you tak on Missy in a hog pen mud match will this happen

[@michaell874]

It was a stupid move by Madusa, and WCW did not really do much of anything for a women’s division other than to have a few bullshit jobber like matches but nothing of any significance.