Cultural Appropriation Never Goes Out Of Style - The Daily Show | Comedy Central

[@kamalisaravanan3391]

Not to be that person but.. TREVOR IS SO CUTE I CAN'TT

[@birderjohn3396]

All these clothes are made by children in Bangladesh.

[@LunaticLynne]

I get what she means though. There's a difference between sharing cultures and appropriating them. You can share someone's culture when you enjoy it together, but when the natives of said culture are looked down upon for doing the same thing that is seen as 'cool' when other people do it, then it's cultural appropriation. Black culture is the best example of that because a lot of people see it as a sign of low socio-economic status, criminal links, ignorance, slutiness, etc. but when white people do the same thing it's seen as cool.

[@Misierbobo]

Fire_Lilly The difference between sharing and appropriating culture is an arbitrary one, that is, it is a matter of opinion where you will never be able to please everybody.

[@LunaticLynne]

Misierbobo I dont believe it to be arbitrary. it is true that its impossible to please everyone, but I feel like as long as society as a whole doesnt discriminate on other cultures and proceed to imitate them to look cool, anythings ok.

[@AceDRoses]

Fire_Lilly not so simple. This isnt a high school movie , its not like the cool prom queen is gonna see a nerdy person doing something , and choose to do it and make it cool, and even if she did......shes free to or else youd be conditioning sombody else's life. When they use something and make it a stereotype like dressing a black model in animal print like it was from an african tribe from 200yrs ago or like the redskins team that uses that logo ,that is more appropriation. You cant expect people to wait for something to be cool and then use it...but if you do thats how you get kids with pants in their knees . If something isnt cool and sombody makes it people are gonna repeat it. Be it the people who did it originally or the people that just made a better use (due to creativity or exposure) .

[@LunaticLynne]

Fábio Rodrigues I see what you mean. you're right. I didnt really mean though that its wrong to use someone else's cultural way of expression like fashion. I meant that for example, in the example of the knee-length jeans. its often associated with gangs and violence in black people, but seen as just a fashion choice in white people. basically, I wasnt really criticising the people using it but the people making the distinction between the users of whatever cultural way of expression we mean. of course sometimes that tends to overlap

[@TildaM1994]

So if i like something and i think a person from another culture also looks cool in the thing i like but a group of other white people think that person from the other culture looks dumb while i as a white person look good I am culturally appropriating even if i loved it and thought both i and the other person looked amazing? Because...that would not be my fault nor intent

[@candyfloss9396]

“Look at big butts- I always try too - Thank you”

[@aashnachowdhury9270]

Calls Taylor Swift and Katy Perry out for cultural appropriation but Beyonce is a "goddess" 👏👏👏

[@gggfyg1038]

Aashna Chowdhury non whites can't do wrong you didn't know?

[@aashnachowdhury9270]

Gggf Yg well I'm not white either, but I get your point.

[@gauravmahajan448]

yes Beyonce is goddess(Look Like)

[@Samzillah]

Meanwhile she totally appropriates from other cultures that are 100% not hers.

[@sairozmohammed2224]

+Gggf Yg cherry picking is what she is railing against

[@aletotheking]

I thought Americans were proud of being a melting pot!

[@Xocists]

I'd hardly call America a melting pot. That kind of implies that all cultures meet together and quickly blend into one. That's quite clearly not the case. That's why you have white neighbourhoods, black neighbourhoods, Chinese neighbourhoods, Jewish neighbourhoods and suchlike. People are drawn to their own kind, tend to be resistant to changing or giving up any part of their culture. And before anyone says that this is just immigrants failing to integrate; whites do it too. Also, America tends to favour assimilation over intergration. People of other cultures must conform to what the (mostly) white, Christian culture demands or suffer the consequences. That's why black people get fired for having dreadlocks, or Muslim women face discrimination for wearing a hijab, or whatever else. Cultural appropriation is just an extension of this. The mainstream culture slowly takes in bits and pieces from other cultures over time. But only on its own terms. Or, more accurately, only on the terms of rich assholes who know they can make a fortune selling "traditional" Native American garments, or pretending that they "discovered" twerking.

[@rhi1989]

You say despite all the bigoted decisions they're making...

[@rhi1989]

Bob McBob It's not even true, that idea that immigrants don't assimilate. America is all immigrants! Are we suggesting that Italian, Irish, German, Norwegian etc immigrants never, after all those years, melted together? Is that why no americans except those with italian ancestry eat pasta and definitely don't see pizza as a national favourite? Funnily enought though, ive seen a lot of americans seriously complain about Native America 'immigrants' failing to assimilate into american culture. The fucking irony...

[@fa_abdi3001]

Insufferable Know-It-All o

[@Borderose]

Trying to talk about cultural appropriation is like opening a toxic Pandora's Box. All it devolves into is a contest to see which culture is the biggest victim or has contributed more to humanity--and this is stupid because at this point it should be pretty damn obvious to anyone with an education that all our cultures have built upon each other's ideas triumphs as well as caused each other's suffering. Trying to preserve a sense of victimization or a sense of superiority based on what our ancestors went through just keeps us all from actually moving past it. We're not our ancestors. We don't have to fight their wars. We need only correct whatever injustice we face now.

[@jermaineedwards5077]

Hakuraita cultural appropriation is not about appreciating the culture you are using in which ever way so to say all cultures have contributed to other culture's is irrelevant. White culture is not appropriated black culture has a long history of being appropriated, making a big deal out of this issue is important even if in reality culture's come from other culture's, at the end of the day some culture's are not respected for what they are and other's are respected.

[@armedwombat6816]

Technically, just claiming something to be 'black culture' is cultural appropriation, since there is no such thing as black culture. Yes, black people trace their lineage back to Africa, but here's the problem: Africa is a big and incredibly diverse place. There are Zulu, Amhara, Tutsi, Dinka, Bakongo, and many more (not to mention non-black cultures like Arabs, Berbs, Boers, etc.). So, say your ancestors were Hutu, you can do Hutu stuff. But if you use anything that was invented buy, say, the Yoruba, you're appropriating their culture. So mushing it all together, just clamining that something like a unified black culture even exists, is a big middle finger to an entire continent. And that's even before you're claiming things without any factual base - like dreadlocks. And let's not even talk about how cultures have always learned from each other, taken over stuff, modified it and created something new, further blurring the line between original and copy since the dawn of time. In conclusion: fuck this bullshit.

[@zipozonkempumlwana7005]

Armed Wombat..I'm South African and I couldn't agree more, except your concluding statement..the point of ALL of this, is to create dialog and they have achieved it...get people talking, interrogating and coming to some conclusion regarding the position...because of the diasporic effect together with globalization , cultures are bound to mix and exchange however, I would deduce that the crux of the matter here is; if people are diversifying, let them also be conscience of the other side to what certain cultures go through and that is subjugation, segregation, and lastly racial profiling...and if we are to extrapolate anything we may find intriguing from the culture, then we should also be able to fight with them during such times...

[@wrenross5315]

Ok, but, nobody was actually talking about African cultures. When someone--especially an American--says "black culture" they mean black culture as it exists in North America. They're talking about a specific group of people bound together by a shared history (i.e. chattel slavery in a foreign land) that Africans don't have. For example, jazz is black culture because it was invented by black Americans during the Harlem Renaissance in the 1920s, which is a cultural and artistic movement started by black migrants fleeing the South in droves. Like many things considered black culture, white Americans would first see jazz as a cacophonic, mildly threatening curiosity, and then they would proceed to "sanitize" it to make it more palatable to a curious white audience. Today when you think of a jazz musician you would probably think of one of the greats, who were mostly black, but by the later 1920s jazz was being played by a lot of white musicians who were being applauded by the media while black musicians were ignored or looked down on for being too "primitive." The white musicians were seen to have a more refined and enjoyable style, and of course it's when the white people start playing it that it's recognised as a Real musical style. THIS is what cultural appropriation is. You'll notice it's kind of distinct from, say, a white American visiting India and wearing a sari, or a white American wearing a sari in America because they think saris are really great. You have to take into account the attitudes of people bearing witness to this action. If society in general were to agree that a white person wearing a sari was daring and beautiful and a trendsetter while an Indian person wearing a sari was kind of lesser in the way they wore it (more primitive, less cool, etc), ESPECIALLY if this white person then profited off wearing them in a way that the Indian person could never hope to do, THEN that is cultural appropriation. I hope I explained this well enough. It is not simply the act of borrowing because you enjoy something, or sharing between cultures. It isn't even really something an individual is guilty of--it takes a racist society to create this toxic atmosphere where white people feel like they cannot participate in anything except their own nebulous culture and everyone else is constantly being (often unintentionally) parasitised. This has happened over and over and over again in American history specifically to black culture, and this is why black Americans specifically are so dang touchy about it in comparison to the rest of the world. Because, simply put, this doesn't happen to this degree, over this length of time, to anybody else. It's a very American experience.

[@tubraynz2925]

Armed Wombat 🙌 couldn't of said it better 👍

[@globalwarmhugs7741]

Armed Wombat and dreadlocks originates in the Caribbean, no? A place of black slavery, where the imported Africans rebelled and created their own special culture of rebellion again their European oppressors. Symbols of rebellion belong to everyone who fight. I'm with you. If you don't know where it comes from, you can't argue for or against it, in an intellectual way. It's so much bigger than that. I'm not saying I'm cool with using specific, cultural ablutions in rich-white-ruled-fahions, I'm not. But please know what you're arguing against, at the end of the day. Well said, friend.

[@globalwarmhugs7741]

zipozonke mpumlwana YES

[@TheChasamSoda]

If people overuse cultural appropriation, it won't exist anymore. Cultural appropriation is when people turn a culture into a fancy dress costume, not when a people of a culture use the attire of a different culture. Beyonce was the only one who actually partook in cultural appropriation in having dressed up as a goddess aka taken a culture and turned it into a costume.

[@amhk5918]

Greek Fire exactly. Why are so many people too stupid to understand this?

[@PaddySnuffles]

Greek Fire Wrong. Cultural appropriation is when you use something from another culture without permission (other than food or language). The issue with doing so is that you do not have the necessary knowledge to know what a culture considers ok to borrow and in what way. So Beyoncé dressed to look like an Indian goddess may be considered okay by Indians for any number of reasons (e.g. because she's a celebrity from another minority giving Indian culture a moment to get some attention, her representation shows a goddess in a non-stereotypical way, etc). I don't know why they thought it was ok, I'm not Indian, but clearly most Indians were OK with it, which by definition means it wasn't cultural appropriation. E.g. Saying "________ is my spirit animal" is not okay if you're not a North American Indigenous person, but having a dream catcher is okay if you got it from an Indigenous artist, because they know the proper way to make it and will tell you how to use it.

[@esmediamond]

Incorrect definition of cultural appropriation. Did you not listen to the hosts?

[@frankrandall8875]

PaddySnuffles Why is saying "_____ is my spirit animal" cultural apropriation? If someone adopts native American practices out of a sincere belief that it is a pathway to truth, who are you to question it? Telling people what beliefs they should or shouldn't have based on their nationality is absurd. A Maori can worship Odin, and an Eskimo can worship Ahura Mazda if they so choose!

[@frankrandall8875]

PaddySnuffles "Most..indigenous religions are NOT open religions...Unless you are officially adopted into a family via ceremony you CANNOT be part of most indigenous religions, no matter how sincere your belief." And you think such such exclusiveness is a good thing? There are European pagans who believe the same who are labeled racist! But that is hardly the point. If someone believes the teachings of a certain religion, they do not need anyone's permission to do so. Thoughts and beliefs are not the proprty of anyone. "In the case of Spirit Animals, if you are not from a culture who has them you do not have the full context behind what they mean or what yours is, no matter how much research you do, because things are not shared with outsiders." This comment truly saddens me. Would you honestly tell someone from the Awa tribe in Brazil they can't comprehend Christianity because of their culture? The spread of different religions and philosophy proves otherwise. You seem to think very little of the human intellect! "...things are not shared with outsiders" Again, this is hardly a compliment of indigenous people (though not necessarily true). I know of a white British man who lived with the Hopi Native Americans for years to learn their spiritual practices, who were more than obliging. You seem to have a condescending view on the very people you are trying to defend. Understanding others culture and sharing the good aspects is not only great, but inevitable.

[@unhombreviejoconalas]

First time I've ever disliked a Trevor Noah video. Cultures change and evolve and inspire other cultures and that's how it's always been. That's what make cultural expression beautiful. There's something scary about going on and on about how horrible cultural appropriation is, it's shit like that that divide humanity. And what, cultural appropriation is bad. But not when Beyonce does it??

[@ItsNadegeBlek]

unhombreviejoconalas Beyoncé got called out for it too fym ?

[@danielpatrick9540]

unhombreviejoconalas same here, first dislike

[@AraujoEnrique]

unhombreviejoconalas I don't know if I get it right but I think what they tried to say is that the problem is when others adopt something from other culture and claim to discover it or something, like taking credit for something that other culture has been doing long ago...but I don't know if that's the message just what I understood

[@unhombreviejoconalas]

ItsNadege No they didn't. Yes, they brought her up to make it look like they were being nuanced, but then brushed it off with a joke. If you are going to talk about cultural appropriation, then the Beyonce video surely fits the definition - a rich, famous and powerful celebrity profiting of a culture of which she isn't a part. Clearly, you can't be both be firing accusations of artists "stealing other people's culture" and at the same time being OK with Beyonce doing the same - that's hypocrisy.

[@ItsNadegeBlek]

unhombreviejoconalas I didn't say they called her out, when she did that song with Coldplay she was called out by many people poc including numerous media pages

[@OriginalPiMan]

It's a tricky subject but the way I see it is that everyone should be able to embrace the best of everyone and work to put the worst behind us all.

[@Kar-fe7hi]

1:58 that part made nearly dying of laughter😂

[@deadinside3396]

Black, white, purple maroon,. Don't give a shit myself,. there's good as well as bad in every race and culture. And since when were big butts considered undesirable? Don't you remember that song, "I like big butts and I cannot lie!?" Dammit now I wanna listen to that song. Kind of tired of every race these days with their stereotypes and prejudice against each other. Can't we all just get along? We are all human, so act like it.

[@AraujoEnrique]

Dead Inside you must have pretty bad memory. Big butts wasn't a thing among white people before Kardashian an Minaj that song original singer is a black man, that's why. Also, if everyone liked big butts there would be no point of doing a song about hope big butts are better

[@deadinside3396]

Bad memory? hahah okay what ever,. I like big butts and I always have,.. how's that for ya? Not only big butts but nice smaller ones too. How's that for ya? You think just butts are all I care about in a person? Na. I haven't forgotten anything you're just trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Beat it troll. I been around long before Kardashian and Minaj. Even if I hadn't been, takes more than just a butt to get my interest. Go take your child games and overly politically correct nonsense elsewhere. Respect either way though.

[@masoncampbell971]

Actually in the Victorian era and even further back, big figures on women were considered attractive as it was seen as a sign of wealth and health. The hour glass figure (big butt, big bust, skinny waist) was the ideal for centuries, skinny was seen as a sign of poverty and lower class and not considered attractive at all. it wasn't until the 1920's when diet trends began that skinny suddenly became attractive.

[@ajlogan5525]

looool people here missed the point of the show, it not about other races embracing your culture but rather using something from ones culture and claiming that it yours.#Embrace it but do not claim that it yours.#we need more shows like this people are always running away from such conversations.

[@Josh-rn1em]

That never happens. And that had never been what happened when someone is accused of cultural appropriation.

[@cammysmith7562]

Dreadlocks are traditionally Scandinavian and Celtic (some of the whitest people you will find). Cultural appropriation is an American thing because for some reason many Americans have failed to realise cultures can mix and borrow from each other.

[@francisindinibotwey840]

You do realize culture mixing is not the problem ...

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@francisindinibotwey840 No the problem is that nobody can wear, or engage in anything without some buttmad loser getting upset about it.

[@tafm3446]

Ok, I'm black and I don't mean to be racist. What's going on with the daily show now. I'm a huge fan of travo but this now seems like everyday is a story about race. Why man... I understand using this as a platform but don't forget what this show is about. It's about delivering the news comically. Last season you did that perfectly. During the presidential election, splendidly well. Now it's always Africa this or black that or white that... Too much man. Remember the sole purpose of the platform. And where are all the non black correspondents? We want a balance man, equality not to marginalise other races. Food for thought man. I'm a big fan but this here isn't how to promote racial equality. This is really the first time ever to dislike from the daily show since you joined. I hope this improves.

[@thiernosow11]

COMEDY SHOW....... let me repeat again so you dont get confused, the daily show is a COMEDY SHOW, not a news network

[@Nicimo]

Thierno Sow yeah it's a comedy show, but it's a comedy show that talks about politics and news. Have you even watched the show when Jon Stuart was the host

[@dod6031]

Trevor Noah is great but he’s a one trick pony. Race is his favourite standup topic and he’s brought that over to the daily show.

[@SynDeus]

vote republican. media is way too PC and toxic nowadays.. they push their agenda into our noses brother

[@Alfadrottning86]

Maybe an odd question (hopefully it does not sound racist though) ... When i watch UK speakers - i generally cannot tell their cultural background just by listening - same goes with most other primarily English speaking countries. For some reason - the USA is different - or i just imagine things. When it is a US video ( even when only listening ) - I can usually tell if the person speaking is black or not black. And i want to phrase it like that ... because - unless there is a thick accent (like 1st or maybe 2nd generation) - i cannot hear the cultural origin from other people (Latin America, Asia etc. ) I do not think i would be able to identify Trevor as being black just by hearing him ... but i sure could tell that the woman is black. To be honest - i find that quite alarming. I do not think that she has a background of low education or subculture - yet her speech patterns are very (maybe intentionally too much?) that of the black community. ... And i do wonder what are the reasons for that? The US has mixed schools and education - so where do people start using those pronounciations. I always thought it might be a social thing - like growing up in ghetto like environments - but that means that other races growing up in the same environments would adopt the very same speech patterns - which does not seem to happen (much). I am of course aware that not every black person in the US talks like that ... dunno how to call it ... "sassy" maybe? - but the way she speaks is similar to how black people tend to sound in movies, too. I want to make it very clear that i do not think less of someone that sounds like that - but it is something i noticed from US speakers very much. - Or maybe it happens in other countries, too - and i am just not attuned to it. (but i am quite sure that i can only hear regional dialects in the UK, not racial dialects... )

[@lorrable]

Ragna Eyjadóttir . She has exaggerated her accent and dialect for comedic effect I'm sure. It probably helps get jobs on TV if you sound more like a stereotype. Sad but true. Plus Trevor Noah is from south Africa not America so they won't sound anything alike really. Hope this helps. The same in UK only certain people get their accent on certain shows here.

[@onyekaobuaya7232]

Trevor is South African.

[@Tozzie50]

Its aave

[@pablols83]

Big butts have been very desirable in Brazil since the 1500s, by europeans and africans alike

[@SiyabongaAfrica]

No, we drink Fanta Orange.

[@BimRen246]

Fanta grape

[@prplfleur]

Siyabonga Africa latino here, orange fanta is fucking great

[@SiyabongaAfrica]

Hell yeah man :-)

[@SiyabongaAfrica]

LOL

[@seunesan]

fanta is life

[@Sunny-zt2wq]

people in india were mad though..............Also there is a difference between the indian diaspora (who face racism daily) and indians who have only ever lived in india/been surrounded by other indians. So if you saw a difference in reaction, its because the experiences are different. Indian north americans weren't wrong for being upset with beyonce over that cultural appropriation. Perhaps indians in india saw it as appreciation b/c they don't know what appropriation really looks/feels like on the daily

[@Nndggdcgc]

Sun Leo EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

[@Sachin6197]

fuck off no one ever gets mad in india. whenever i see tourists wearing sarees and kurtas and visiting temples, all i see is people complimenting them on the outfit ffs

[@Sunny-zt2wq]

learn to read....i literally already addressed this in my damn comment.

[@Sunny-zt2wq]

Reflected Owl I'm literally Indian....

[@janes4316]

Sun Leo then I apologize for that assumption. Funnily enough, though, point still stands. Explaining to other Indian people why they just don't have the life experience you do and so don't *actually* disagree, they just don't really understand, is still really arrogant. Rather than, yknow, just having a different opinion... And if you are Indian, that's what your post boils down to. "We weren't wrong, the vast crowds of Indians who enjoyed seeing this expression of their culture just don't understand the issue the way I do, u guyz. This is such a huge issue that you need years of exposure before you can see it.".

[@doodoobutter3929]

I'm black and I give you permission to use part of our culture. It's called sharing

[@imextremlyhandsome]

Spacewalker 154 Thanks my friend.

[@debieanais314]

No one ask u an opinion

[@lou8391]

Never did I think that "We drink Sprite" could be such a spot on response 👌🏽

[@sashagolden8080]

one thing I'm starting to understand is that no ones really mad about white people taking from other cultures when they really just like these different cultures and want to embrace it, the problem is always the hypocrisy that always comes with it. and then there is the problem of wearing cultures as if they're accessories, I get that many white people don't see the problem and even some people of color as well, but it is very telling how differently certain aspects of different cultures are treated once they're taken over by a white person. the idea of benefiting from someone elses culture while people of color are look down upon for the exact same thing is in fact cultural appropriation.

[@sunnyqueen5685]

But consider this, wearing jeans could be then black/Asian people appropriating white culture because jeans were invented in Europe further back than the 17th century. If we had to start picking shit like this all the time over what is who's, we'd have no pasta, paella would not be a thing, tempura would not be a thing, Japanese tea ceremony would not be a thing, anime would not a be a thing, the alphabet and our numeral system would not be a thing. Nothing would be a thing!

[@tubraynz2925]

It's funny how black people claim dreadlocks but they actually don't belong to any one culture. I'm sure Egyptians and Indians can claim too, Right.

[@philanxumalo1036]

Uhhmmm....Egypt is in which continent by the way...?

[@SupergirlFaisa]

Phila Dlamini lol ... egypt... im done

[@fenton3137]

egypt isnt full of black people though

[@AnonEyeMouse]

Tu BraynZ Celts, Picts and vikings, too.

[@SilverMe2004]

Have you heard of a polish plait?

[@mathieus.3966]

This is crazy and racist. Culture is free and nobody owns it. Pizza is just pizza everybody can eat it. And a dress is just a dress. Same thing for sports, hairstyles, music. Stop the crazy victimisation nonsense.

[@francisindinibotwey840]

Hahahhah now even the truth is racist wow . Do you understand what cultural appropriation is? The main pint of appropriation is not about the mix of other culture but rather acknowledging that there is an aspect of what u practicing that isn’t yours and therefore give acknowledgement to those people . Nobody thinks pizza is an American dish either have u tried to give it a unique name however . Braids were stolen and renamed boxer braids . And the list goes on . Look at some examples of cultural appropriation and you will see the two things they have in common

[@changestrangers]

The dreadlocks example doesn't make sense. She's comparing employees at a workplace with celebrities and fashion models. It sucks that black people are disciplined for wearing dresds in certain jobs, but I doubt white people would be allowed to wear dreads in those jobs either.

[@EvanEvans9]

If you look up 'chip on your shoulder' you'll find a picture of Trevor Noah.

[@ruemissm6800]

I agree with Trevor.... Africans don't see cultural appropriation as a big issue....

[@earthmoon236]

Same in Asia. As Trevor said, we feel like it's embracing a culture. My country is multi cultural, it's normal to see people in each other's traditional dressing. No one is offended.

[@debieanais314]

No one asks u an opinion

[@whymustisignin4this]

I'm sorry but cultural appropriation strikes me as an inherently racist concept which ignores how much every culture on earth has progressed and advanced through contact with others. Yes many abuses have happened but these abuses are the result of the unequal nature of societies. It's inequality that we have to fight. Not each other. Maybe I've misunderstood something about what cultural appropriation is and means. This didn't clear that up. Parts of it were cute though.

[@AraujoEnrique]

whymustisignin4this I get you, the thing I think may be the problem is when others use your culture as a joke, try to claim as theirs or something like that

[@fMONA94]

So white people are called out but not Beyonce? 🤦

[@shubhalaxmimukherjee3437]

That's not how Indian godesses are portrayed and no, Indians did not like it. We did not like how the poverty is the only thing the white directors found worth making a video of. Really disappointing to see Trevor Noah's show get the facts about cultural appropriation wrong in a segment about the same thing.

[@22ndCenturyBasterd]

I'm black but we need to realise that ppl who (commit) cultural 'appropriation' are our best allies and the last to be racists! Think about it

[@sebo641]

You guys missed the point. Cultural appropriation is only an issue when someone profits over it. However Beyoncé is also guilty of this. You can wear dreadlocks if u want, but trying to present it as your own is wrong. It's like Drake stealing from the underground and presenting it to the mainstream as his own

[@MrGorobu]

Like when Trevor Noah did a Japanese accent in his stand up?

[@francisindinibotwey840]

Michael Go is he profiting from it

[@sebo641]

​@@francisindinibotwey840 ​ @Michael Go I don't think that's the same because, first of all, Trevor does a wide range of accents (a few I've heard are Australian, French, South African, Obama, Trump, fake Russian). So the Japanese accent on it's own is not appropriating anything. I have to rewatch the standup that you're referring to because I do not know if he makes it his own (can't have cultural appropriation without appropriating). Also an accent is not really part of culture to me because it's not sth that is conciously decided. It's more a result of a culture and how outsiders perceive your culture, not the actual culture. Idk what do y'all think (see I say y'all all the time because it's easier than you all and it's more inclusive than you guys, that would be cultural appropriation in some sense because I'm not from USA and I'm profiting from it by gaining efficiency in typing and getting a laugh out of it sometimes).

[@francisindinibotwey840]

sebo641 am sorry but you don’t make sense . Maybe explain what you think cultural appropriation is to you do I may understand you .

[@sebo641]

@@francisindinibotwey840 Thanks for trying to understand me. Cultural appropriation is an individual or a group of people from one culture (usually the dominant culture in a nation or region of the world) who take rituals, dress, language, music, art, beliefs, literature from another culture (usually minority or marginalised) and change it to make it fit their culture, or take it and proclaim it is theirs. That's my understanding so far.

[@rocou945]

that green top and blazer is so beautiful! i love her style

[@davidbodor1762]

Cultural appropriation is a really muddy area with no clearly defined rules. Everyone has a different metric for when it's okay and when it's not.

[@francisindinibotwey840]

Actually that’s not true . The Beyoncé thing had two things . One it was a joke , the second , it was we’ll know that it was an Indian culture that she was practicing. There is not grey area in cultural appropriation

[@MiffyJef]

I find it weird that the same people who complain about cultural appropriation also praise retailers for being gender neutral and not labelling "dolls for girls" and "dinosaurs for boys". I'll agree that I wouldn't necessarily suit cornrows or an Afro but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to have one...just like a black guy should be allowed to wear a tennis sweater and dance poorly. Embracing cultures and making them a part of you is the single best way of stamping out racism, bigotry and division. All the time that we have "This is for X" and "That is for Y" you'll have people feeling ostracised. I'd love to hear a comment if I've got this entirely wrong!

[@Ian1O7]

I dont know when black people started liking big butts. But during the Victorian age it was attractive to be larger which would include a big butt so i dont know

[@kevinfox298]

Well, features like big butts were fetishized by White Europeans - particularly in West Europe and England - first and mostly due to 'freak shows', where Black African women's features were exotified and sexualised for the white audience's fascination because of how they differed from the less curvy, more petite European woman's body. This was used to justify an early form of misogynoir, called 'black female primitivism', which suggested that black women were not human because of a body shape these Europeans were sexualising. The most prominent figure and victim of this was Saartjie Baartman, also billed as the 'Hottentot Venus' when she was made an exhibition during her years of exploitation. You should look into her story, and there's an extensive article about her on Wikipedia (along with the references at the bottom). The bottom line here, in case you don't look into it because frankly her story is horrific, is that the stereotype regarding black women and big butts, and the sexualising of this feature, is all rooted in her exploitation. In fact, a direct line can be drawn from Saartjie to the photographer Jean-Paul Goude (who dated Grace Jones and released an artbook called 'Jungle Fever'), to Kim Kardashian's infamous cover for Paper Magazine. That being said, I couldn't say if it's linked to Victorian women wanting to accentuate their bums. I do know that a larger figure was considered a sign of wealth back then, and therefore desirable. Plus, the freak shows of 19th century England also included fat women so that they had a 'proper' excuse to have women take their clothes off onstage.

[@Ian1O7]

Kevin Fox cool thanks for the information :)

[@sunnyqueen5685]

I'm sorry to butt in and all, but in Europe big figures were considered attractive around the 17th century. As Rubens shows in his 'The 3 graces' painting, form 1635, so this goes way back than the Victorian era. Sometimes I think people believe all Western Europe is reduced to is the Victorian Era, that nothing else existed.

[@davidkhalech9894]

Jade Rabit Black ladies have big butts within their DNA ,it’s just natural.Come to Africa and you will notice it’s true.

[@jfh667]

I think you missed something about us white people: Appropriating everything is what we do, THAT is our culture.

[@Misierbobo]

Jf H That's how every culture across the world evolved. No culture evolved in a vacuum without any outside interference.

[@taylora5868]

I don't understand, Beyoncé has been guilty of cultural appropriation more than once. That time she performed as an Egyptian goddess? And cultural appropriation isn't wearing a certain style a culture is known to wear? It's taking their roots and turning it into a costume. So wearing dreadlocks as a non- African American would be cultural appropriation, not big hooped earrings and gold chains (like the taylor swift video). Wearing a sari to an Indian wedding is not cultural appropriation, but dressing up as an Indian goddess when you clearly aren't of that culture IS cultural appropriation.

[@ashjones9442]

Also, Celtic and Germanic tribes wore dreadlocks.

[@IBlameItOnMyYouth]

true but I've never met anyone in Germany who told me they got dreads because of any of those tribes ;)

[@eddutome]

ash Jones lies lies

[@redredlulu1]

B 1 learn some history!!!

[@buddhathegod]

Fucking no, people letting off Beyoncé off the hook because she's poc and "a goddess". I'm not grateful for Beyoncé appropriating my culture, stop with the fucking hypocricy. If you truly feel that dreadlocks is CA and it's something that needs to addressed, you can't go a shrug off something when CA happens to a culture that's not your own and it's from someone who isn't white. CA is CA.

[@KCNwokoye]

Really intelligent reporting on cultural appropriation. Embrace it all, the challenging and the rewarding.

[@snowblue23]

The fact that they're letting sweeping, baseless statements like these broadcast on their show is revolting. I love the Daily Show, but this is too much.

[@yasminsayeed8125]

Tbh I’m Somali , idc who you are don’t touch my culture. Idc if your White or a fellow black person

[@_LITZWORLD_]

Since Kardashian bought all theirs 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@squirrel9544]

I really don't like how they blew off Beyonce doing it with a joke

[@DystopianUtopia]

It's because they have no argument. 'Cultural appropriation' is the dumbest non-issue to come out of SJWs and identity politics in a long, long time.

[@squirrel9544]

DystopianUtopia really? Go take a look at a video by the BBC about "Digital Blackface". Then come back

[@DystopianUtopia]

I just did. My determination to condemn SJWs and idpol to the fires of hell is as strong as ever.

[@squirrel9544]

I know right

[@Mia-zx7nn]

I get where she’s coming from, in fact, I agree with a lot of her points, but I feel like she said things in ways for laughs that sounds wrong. Saying that Beyoncé is excused because ‘she’s a goddess’ is going to rub people the wrong way and I feel like it rubbed me the wrong way too. It started to fall into the ideas of identity politics

[@DystopianUtopia]

Identity politics, everybody.

[@bjc-y3h]

From the comments I can see, people really aren't happy with this! I have a mixed opinion. I disagree with a couple of things here - like Beyoncé being 'immune' to appropriating culture or being allowed to sing Despacito if you look Puerto Rican - but there are many things I agree with. I'm coming at this from a background of white British middle classness so I'm obviously not an authority on minority cultures, but here's my two cents (two pennies?). People in minorities have cultural practices - from celebrating Chinese New Year and observing the holy month of Ramadan, to hip hop culture or cultural dress - that is immediately seen as being distinct. Again, not an authority, but I understand this as being an important part of a person's identity, because there's this Western culture that's quite dominant, in Britain and in the US. Retaining the culture of one's nation and one's ethnicity simultaneously must take effort (well, I think it takes thought and consideration), and people are right to be proud of the effort and creation of a unique identity in the face of a dominant culture that would otherwise obscure it. I don't think that Western culture is bad, I just think there's a lot of pressure to conform in any society, and white Westerners get to live in Western countries without thinking about whether their culture is disappearing or they're losing touch with it. Well, some people are worried about immigrants taking their culture, but with so much representation of white people compared to others in the media and politics and the upper classes, I can't really get behind that. So when white Westerners adopt elements of a minority's culture, I think it kind of threatens the ability of people to have that thing as their own heritage and a part of their identity. It also must be frustrating to see that while people of colour experience negative consequences from expressing culture (say, insulting depictions of Native Americans wearing headdresses and being labeled "savages" in the past, and now being stereotyped as lazy and all owning casinos or whatever), white people seem to suffer no consequences (headdresses at Coachella, not remarked upon until people pointed out how offensive it was). So a white person can adopt an element of African American culture, and be perceived as perfectly safe and law-abiding, while an African American celebrating their culture is usually seen as more of a threat. And I understand that a lot of people think it's being taken too far. I know that people feel that they have to tiptoe around, and that they can hardly do anything in case of cries of "appropriation!". But, to be honest, I don't find it difficult to be conscious of culture in day-to-day life. I might screw up - sometimes my love of hip hop makes me think twice about whether I'm being appropriate. But my advice is honestly just to be chill about it, and live your life while trying to improve the experiences of those around you. That often means making concessions, and that's what makes life nuanced. You can still eat sushi and curry, still listen to jazz and RnB and k-pop, but be mindful and if someone is offended, be flexible to changing what you're doing.

[@s.g.7572]

Frankly, if someone is offended by something so irrelevant, there's no point being "politically correct". I see no possible way that cultural appropriation can possibly be seen as offensive by anyone with a lick of sense. No disrespect to you, you seem like a woman with a head on her shoulders, but how can finding someone's culture so appealing that you adopt aspects of it possibly be offensive?

[@sneakybunny3298]

Samuelito G the point is that it's not about the clothes or the music but the power imbalances that still exist. A black man with dreds listening to hip hop is still unfortunately seen as more threatening (by some) than a white man with dreds listening to hip hop. So the white person can enjoy his expression of style and preference without consequence but the black person is seen as threatening for trying to enjoy the same privileged. Power is the issue. White people in North America have more power and more priviledge than minorities. So when they casually use another culture's identifiers they can do so without thought of negative consequences the people of that culture would experience for using those same identifiers. Power is the issue, not fashion.

[@stefrost4029]

Bronwen Crowther As a fellow (white) Brit, I actually see multiculturalism as the defining aspect of British culture and one of the few things I like about this country. Personally, I think the big problem is when someone wants to benefit from other cultures whilst oppressing them. A racist listening to rap and talking like they were raised in Baltimore is an idiotic hypocrite (and all racists are idiots, of course).

[@bjc-y3h]

Oh, yeah, should have made that clearer! Multiculturalism is incredible, and the difference in attitudes it brings is amazing too. The way my colleagues in London speak about different cultures is almost always respectful and measured and informed, but family members from almost all-white countryside towns vary wildly in how much they attempt to understand and tolerate minorities. Obviously this isn't always the case, but I think that being exposed to a variety of cultures really can make you more culturally aware, and also just generally nicer about race and ethnicity.

[@checkbordspy4608]

thing is with cultural appropriation , if you believe in cultural appropriation and your black or Asian your cant really unironicly wear a western style suit and a skirt or even trousers and a shirt

[@AirQuotes]

I like her jacket

[@Misierbobo]

The dreadlock argument is a false equivalent. No one (white or not), dressed like that dreadlocks model would have been able to go to work.

[@NataliaDanceFitness]

Being upset about cultural appropriation is racist. We should all be equal and be able to wear, sing or dance whatever we want regardless of our heritage. This woman clearly is upset about the racist behaviour she has lived, but then she should not be a hypocrite and forbid people from different heritage than her, doing things or liking things from her heritage. I am South-American, and I live in an English town, I probably represent less than 1% of my heritage where I live. I teach Salsa to people from all over the world, and I am so happy that we have more than a hundred students and that everyone is getting fascinated with my culture. A latin club even opened in my town in England and is the most popular of clubs, which makes me so happy cuz I finally can enjoy Latin music in a Club with my non-Latin friends. I get so excited about all the Latin parties, and Congresses organised by Europeans and even more seeing so many Europeans attending to these. Because, if we want to end racism, we need to spread more love rather than hate

[@ashjones9442]

So we should all stay in our lane and be segregated?

[@rcripps008]

we should work hard to help and understand each other, but not take someone else's ideas. You're oversimplifying.

[@divinee5140]

No u shouldn't do a culture and say it is urs or change it'd name or profit from it but if ur not doing it it's okay

[@pablols83]

Also, Japanese, Chinese and Italians should petition the UN for massive reparations due to the entire world appropriating sushi, chow mein and pizza.

[@ArmandoBellagio]

I don't live in the USA, but I also think it's a bit fuzzy. When models dress up in costumes from another culture they don't really pretend it's theirs usually. Also it's often a mixed style which may have elements of another culture, but is not purely from that culture. I can understand that for African-Americans in the USA this may be a sensitive topic. But like they said black US celebrities do it also like Beyonce as an Indian goddess or Cardi B dressed in Arabic clothes in the desert for example. Also when I think about it a lot of black US gangsta rappers were copying an Italian Mafiosi style in some videos like Snoop Dogg, Kool G Rap, Scarface, 2Pac, Biggie, Nas and so on and nobody ever complained about that ;)

[@Nndggdcgc]

I HATE cultural appropriation, but why should Beyoncé be allowed to do so?!?

[@polyorchid528]

OMFG. Almost no one in the comment section seems to realise this was a joke. No wonder Trump is your president.

[@30centuryman97]

She's not English, but she's speaking English...should I be offended. Is she allowed to use anythihng of European descent, like an internal combustion engine? What about using zero in mathematics, is that offensive to Indians?

[@diferentization]

Someone explain me why hair is a trigger but Nicki Minaj and her video Chun-li isn't a problem? I always think when I see it as an example of hypocrisy. Maybe I'm wrong but is my impression

[@anujpramanik1819]

Yes she's being hypocritical with statements like "if Beyonce does it, it's ok." As an Indian I don't understand how people in the west have so much time to discover new things they can play victim to. If I decide to wear dreadlocks, it doesn't mean I owe you anything coz you don't own the rights to wear dreadlocks. Just ridiculous. 😒

[@redmage7716]

I like how the ultimate point was counter to the idea of cultural appropriation but an understanding of the reasons belief in it. I get why people feel attached to their culture but ultimately it’s pointless.

[@a775873]

Cultural appropriation is about the power dynamic. When people with power and privilege decide to 'validate' customs and traditions that oppressed people have long been marginalized for by saying 'This is the hot new thing,' then we have serious problems. If you're going to take on something that does have sacred and historic significance and an unequal history of power dynamics it's important to honor that history. I think everyone can wear dreadlocks but it's important to know what you are taking from and being respectful, acknowledging where it comes from.

[@keikomagazinetv9033]

I’d be like Thank You too 🐝🐝🐝🐝

[@nobody3431]

If she's against cultural appropriation, then why is she wearing clothes?

[@sakhilerashama9859]

I suppose she is right about the but thing. Sara Baartman is good example of how things were viewed by European people in the past. Google her if need be.

[@sophidina34]

can i say something? i get that people dont really see the big deal with cultural appropriation but i feel like most people didnt pay attention to the end of the video. The reason it pisses people off is that you take on certain aspects of a culture and its like clothes; you can take it off and put it back on and you dont have to put on the bad stuff. And also a lot of people ignore the fact that these cultures have meaning. Take hairstyles for example. The reason people dont really like white people having black hairstyles is that a lot of the time people dont realize that braids are protective and also slaves used to use them to draw maps. It has a meaning that goes beyond fashion and superficiality. And to the people who say what about when black people straighten their hair, what i have to say is this: we are told that having white features gets you further in life than your black features. Kids with box braids and dreads, or nappy hair have been kicked out of their school because it looks unprofessional. We are told that our hair is not good so the only other option is to make it good and socially acceptable (hence the straightening and stuff). It is difficult for us to wear our cultures proud and so it's enraging to see someone who doesnt have to bear that weight doing it for fun. Thats just my opinion.

[@rebeccaclaudia5623]

If you're gonna judge, then judge everyone. Don't leave Beyoncé out just because you like her.

[@Damnonii]

In olden days big butts were desirable by European culture. People wanting skinny butts was a recent thing. It's like a lot of things in any culture things go in and out of style

[@kms50549]

This women would flip her lid if she every went to Uzbekistan. Lots of Uzbek women be stealing braids (especially during traditional dancing). In all seriousness though to defend beyonce and call out Katy Perry and Taylor Swift reeks of hypocrisy. Don't give me all that its because of oppression bullshit. Katy Perry paid tribute to Japanese culture and was apparently wrong. Asian Americans are one of the most educated and privileged classes in America, I'd bet they are probably the only group in the US less likely to be pulled over than white people (statistically speaking).

[@vornamenachname2097]

Ok now i get the part of people turning culture into costumes(which is disrespectful and shitty) even if I wouldn't call it approbiation but disrespecting culture. I also get that people are pissed because getting fired or not even hired because of a hairstyle (especially as harmless as dreadlocks) in combination with your skin color and on the other side the one with white skin gets praised for your cultures Style. Still I would seperate between people who pretend to have invented a new style even though it's stealing culture (that really is approbiation) and the ones who just like the style and wouldn't even have thought about pretending it's theirs. The response of society (the hating of one and praising the other) to it is a completely different topic as well. Because if society thinks that for example the concept of a big butt was founded by the kardashians then it's ignorant, stupid and racist. That I get, that I support and I am totally on your side. But the things that really piss me off on the other side are: 1. It's not only white people. I've also seen other minorites turning other minorities culture into costumes or made it fashion but it seems like that gets ignored or even praised. Which doesn't piss me off because "whinewhinewhine that's so unfair only the whites get called out" but because it seems that the disrespected culture wasn't allowed to call out the poc because she was a minority as well (with not allowed I mean she was attacked for saying it's approbiation). But it was also disrespectful and should also be called out. (I am fully aware that whites do it probably more often I am just saying that every case should be handled the same way because if not it's just hypocrisy) 2. That's a bit of whining but I hate reading and hearing whites have no culture. Yes we do! Have you ever been to Europe? It's just not one white culture it differs by region as well as any other culture. You also don't have one Asian culture or one Black culture or one native american culture. There are some similarities but they are not all the same. I don't know, as an european I'm often not fully aware of how things are really like in the US especially for a minority and I'm afraid I sometimes underestimate it.

[@syd6126]

"These white men aren't trynna steal us they're embracing us! Come on! Come get on this boat!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mayimoona4868]

She is the best

[@carolinel.7804]

I ship it.

[@janes4316]

You know, it's true. Imagine there was a form of artistic expression, like Jazz, which the mainstream looked down on, but which was a major part of your personal identity. And you might have been looked down on for it, you might even have been physically assaulted. Then, all of a sudden, that artform gets all popular, and people who have never been through what you did, who don't even know anything about the artform in question, are just taking them for themselves to look good, with no idea what they mean. You'd be horrified, right? I mean, here are these 'fake geek girls' with their geek chic fashion, wearing fake glasses and Thor t-shirts on the cover of Vogue, and you're still not allowed to wear your Iron Man cosplay to work! It's even worse than dreadlocks! At least dreads might get stuck in machinery, which gives a solid reason for not setting a legal precedent about banning them.

[@andromeda8325]

Damn she preaches!✊👌

[@msontopoftheworld]

Dulcé. Is. Brilliant!! 👏💜💜💜

[@sunnyqueen5685]

I have to ask all North Americans something, so please bear with me for a second: As a Spaniard I am throughly confused (as I know a lot of Europeans are) about this whole 'white people' thing? Am I considered white? Because I am much darker than other Europeans in the North, but in here they are white, I'm white, Easterns are white, Westerns are white... Is there a specific category for us? Are we just Europeans? Because a lot of Americans associate European=Caucasian, but I'm a dark brunette, white dark brown eyes and goldenish skin... so what am I?

[@pennykanyaucat]

Never quite understood the expression "Hooded Eyes" until 2:00.

[@sophiewarden3018]

I love her, can she stay forever please?

[@neeva950]

Americans are really obsessed with race 💯 I don't mind people appreciating my culture and wearing asian dresses! I think it's a shoutout and I honestly feel proud when I see other people wear it as well

[@liorsmith]

This seems a bit like The Mash Report when Nish Kumar talks to Desiree Burch - same kind of interview style and topics.

[@yanitterefe5182]

Best choice Trevor made hiring her👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Bravo. She makes me happy.

[@leonaara3737]

People who think you can "steal" someone else's culture is ridiculous. It is embracing it! This is an American problem clearly. Also Africans aren't the only ones who have big butts! And JLo started that trend, I get that African Americans are treated unfairly but African American culture is the only culture that has a negative response to people wanting to embrace them. Also dreads have Egyptian origins, so that means you stole it too! Asians in the south love watermelon because it keeps their bodies cool, guess you guys stole that too. I get that there has been shame attached to those things in the past but people seem to have let go of idiotic judgements like that. Embrace those that love and want to know more about your culture.

[@callmekai97]

3:10 I don't agree with the whole Beyonce thing.. If all the other examples are cultural appropriation then so is she... Why does she get a pass? Either it is all racsist or none of it is. Why is it if they are white it is racsist? And nobody in the world is pureblooded anything. There has so much mixing that has happened throughout history.

[@BlackCatOnTheSnow]

She had me cracking in The first line, oh god kkkkkk

[@yanitterefe5182]

Dulcé! Yayyyyyy!!!!

[@Night_Owlette_30]

Here's the thing that trips most people: cultural appropriation is when someone takes something that is inherently belonging to a culture different than theirs and passing it as an original of theirs or making profit off of it. Cultural appreciation is when somebody borrows something from a different culture with the purpose of discovering more about said culture. Like wearing a kimono while in japan to attend a traditional tea ceremony to discover more and try to understand the tradition.

[@thiernosow11]

COMEDY SHOW....... let me repeat again so you dont get confused, the daily show is a COMEDY SHOW, not a news network

[@kathughes6578]

Weird in the uk. We treat different classes in our country the way Americans treat different races.

[@littlereddevilrocs]

See what confuses me is my boyfriend is South African and grew up in Johannesburg (weirdly enough he is the same age as Trevor Noah and lived down the road from him) as far as he knows he is white he knows very little about his mums side of the family. But he will be told that he can’t have African culture, even though he is African. So what confuses me is how can a black American claim African heritage if they’ve never lived in Africa but a white South African who grew up in South Africa can’t claim African culture? Also if a white African emigrates to America would they be called African American in the same way people emigrating from Italy are Italian Americans? Or are white Africans called something different in America? There seems to be a lot of labels in America (I’m not American or from America)

[@mikaylabansie9512]

Welcome home baby

[@CHURCHOFSOUTHPARK]

Great addition ❤

[@SilverMe2004]

I believe in cultural appropriation. I believe that its is a necessity. That minority must appropriate western norms. And this is accelerated by the west appropriating minority culture

[@sfx592]

There are allot of people who know the history and honor cultural attire, but I dont know if the designer or models, know about what they're wearing in depth. BUt as long as their customers do, I guess its alright.

[@Rhythmmical]

I thought this was going to make fun of the BBC "Digital Blackface" video.

[@arturahmeti486]

Don't understand this? You should be glad and happy that white people want to take and addapt from other cultures.

[@francisindinibotwey840]

Seriously??? Why should we be glade ?? How would you feel if I took your culture and told everyone else that it is mine

[@samnorris3649]

What about the people who don't care what cultural appropriation is?

[@sneakybunny3298]

Sam Norris don't watch. Simple. Duh.

[@wolfstar675]

How many times do we have to tell SJWs cultural appropriation is not real?

[@jenniferoffei1381]

Who is watching this in 2020?

[@platinumat7549]

I look at america and can't help but laugh ya'll have the dumbest complaints ever lol ENTERTAIN ME MORE!!!! XD