A few orbits with the Soyuz Globus

[@gavincurtis]

You even got its MIDI sound chip working! Blown away….

[@Raketenclub]

🤣

[@ionstorm66]

Pretty sure its the Mac classic version, using just PC speaker.

[@landsgevaer]

But can we play Tetris on the thing!?

[@VintageTechFan]

@@landsgevaer Looking at the condition it arrived, someone already tried.

[@jlwilliams]

I am guessing everyone here would totally love to have a working replica of this!

[@nwbackcountry5327]

And be able to display the position of any satellite!

[@markgreco1962]

Add me to the list

[@MicraHakkinen]

@@nwbackcountry5327 You'd be swapping globes a lot though, since the inclination is fixed ;)

[@jacobx7083]

I don’t ever comment on a video but I’ve been studying clockwork and watching making for a while while trying to come up with a worthwhile project to endeavor on and I think this is it. And really and truly, especially if I could get plans, I would love to make at least a few. Possibly a production run/Kickstarter of them. As well I think there might me a simple way to make an adjustable inclination globe, and possibly save some satellites. I might endeavor regardless but if there’s enough support I think it’d be worth a more continuous effort and maybe pulling a team to work on it. Getting @clickspring in on it and some others lol

[@juniorprt-s2262]

Perfect, nice device. now we must stop fawning over russians :D

[@a.lisnenko]

The song is "Field, O My Field" 1933, Composer: Lev Knipper, Lyrics: Viktor Gusev. Russian: "Полюшко-поле", композитор: Лев Книппер, автор слов: Виктор Гусев.

[@wChris_]

Actually its from the Spectrum HoloByte Tetris version the track is called 'Polyushka Polye (Red Army)'

[@edgeeffect]

​@@wChris_ that's what По́люшко-по́ле says.

[@antronargaiv3283]

@@wChris_ I so miss that. Still have that program for the original PC, but for whatever reason, even though I can get the game to play in DosBox on my Linux machine, it will not play the music. It's just not Genuine Tetris without that 8-bit music...😞

[@prostytroll]

Thank you so much!

[@CuriousMarc]

Link to the Tetris game song played on my Mac SE: drive.google.com/open?id=1kVaCzpzfUrowlL_N8gEM456UP8hwO2Z1 Video where the recording is done: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7IpZqEhbFgfrM

[@user-hj5nr3wy5w]

A technological work of art. Imagine that on a digital display, you wouldn’t even notice.

[@Raketenclub]

digital? ... what is that....? ... oh ... wait... ok.... but,.... and..... ;-) analog just rocks, analog mechanical computers are ... a piece of art!

[@DavoidJohnson]

It's working! And is also a music box.

[@crowguy506]

If it weren’t mapped for Apollo Soyuz i would have suggested to connect it to the actual position of the ISS.

[@G0RSHK0V]

It can't be done. It's made for one orbit inclination, IS have another, so it requires another version of a globe

[@xsc1000]

@@G0RSHK0V What if due to some error in start was orbit inclination other than planned?

[@G0RSHK0V]

@@xsc1000 As I know, for this cases corrections were calculated manually. But it's unlikely that inclination will have more than one minute error. It's easier to go for wrong orbit period, than wrong inclination. Unless the rocket tilted slightly, but for this cases there is an abort system

[@aleksimakela6787]

Absolutely fascinating instrument. Very mechanical, yet not very large.

[@randomguy9898]

So happy to see one of these working! I never thought I would see one again after the one on ebay disappeared years ago

[@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365]

Finally a short I enjoyed. Thank You! I usually hate shorts that KZbin are trying so hard to shove down our throat.

[@DrFrank-xj9bc]

Just beautiful!

[@MarcelHuguenin]

What a great device! Amazing, when you think of it, the cosmonauts were able to see the position of their space ship pin pointed on a recognisable globe. Marvellous!

[@fischX]

+-200km give or take

[@stephenfreeborn]

It’s interesting to see the path it took as well. It’s only a straight line but it went in places I didn’t expect.

[@eams1234]

@@stephenfreeborn It not only follows the spacecraft's orbit, but also the earth's rotation

[@stephenfreeborn]

Shoot, I didn’t even consider Earth’s rotation. Really cool.

[@MarcelHuguenin]

@@stephenfreeborn Exactly, because now we're looking from the ship's perspective instead of the sinusoidal line on a flattened earth map.

[@warclan5429]

an Analog piece of art. now That CPUs exist, it seems so simple. but The Engineering for that is extreme and wonderful for the time

[@MahBor]

Imagine a live ISS tracker like that!

[@johndododoe1411]

Would move a bit slower. ISS orbits slower than the minute hand on a clock. It also has a very predictable orbit, so a mechanical display could just be a basic globe on a tilted axis corresponding to the tilted orbit that passes over KSC pad 39 and the Russian launchpad for easy travel up and down. Tracking a more dynamic spacecraft would be more entertaining as a window display at a related government office or museum. Or ditto for private space companies such as X, Blue or Virgin. Imagine if Tesla showrooms had a window display showing the locations of Starlink satellites with a sign saying which models have onboard antennas, while Amazon owned shops display the orbits of their fastest satellites (once they do some actual orbits).

[@zyeborm]

@@johndododoe1411 I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that soyuz probably didn't orbit in 8 seconds either and that indeed most satellites are in around 90 minute orbits or longer. "Dynamic" satellites aren't going to be that dynamic at all with even spy satellites only moving at most a handful of times a year because moving costs fuel and that is what defines the lifespan of the satellites largely.

[@johndododoe1411]

@@zyeborm A typical Sun synchronous survey satellite would have a faster orbit and overflies new locations each time.

[@zyeborm]

@@johndododoe1411 iss moves over new ground track every orbit. I'd post a link but it gets the comment deleted. As do all orbits other than geosynchronous AFAIK. The inclination of iss hits the two launch sites but the phasing moves the ground track around. Sun synchronous orbiting satellites are typically 800km according to wiki at least so they will be slower than iss I believe there's a bit in this device Marco hasn't fired up yet.

[@performa476]

This would make a great screensaver module.

[@av_kovko]

The music is taken from Introductory screen of game Tetris for Macintosh 128K and Comodore Amiga (Amiga Teteris).

[@Brian-L]

Ludicrous speed!

[@gloverelaxis]

this is the cutest piece of actually-useful machinery interface i've ever seen

[@ZTenski]

Where in the world did you find that? Quite rare. One of the few true mechanical computers that survived the dawn of electronic computing, at least for a while.

[@RN1441]

They explained in their video that this type of thing was in use until either 1992 or 2002 - I forget the year.

[@nick1austin]

2002. This unit was damaged by dropping. Instead of repairing they cut some of the cable looms so it could never be used. Maybe it was kept for spares but was never needed.

[@hugoboyxxi]

It must been used in flights during Chile's popular unity period (1970-1973). I can see the "AGO" red point over Santiago city in that globe.

[@JimmytheCow2000]

Amazing progress already!

[@projectartichoke]

I think you're pulling more than 100G!

[@benjaminhanke79]

He would be far beyond escape velocity.

[@CuriousMarc]

It’s slightly overclocked…

[@ackiid]

It is not accelerating, isnt it?

[@zyeborm]

@@ackiid it'd be accelerating pretty hard to travel over earths surface at that speed and not fly off into deep deep space lol. if it took 10 seconds per orbit that 540 times faster than iss (give or take). That's about 4100km/second

[@Raketenclub]

spin it --- spin the planet! (thumbwars)

[@lagoSaltoGrande]

Fantastic !!!

[@DragonsAndDragons777]

Yessssss, this is epic!

[@ml.2770]

You spin me right 'round, baby, right 'round Like a globus, baby, right 'round, 'round, 'round

[@Chriva]

"You spin me right round baby, right round like a record.."

[@simontay4851]

Like a globe.

[@karlmadsen3179]

Such soothing music for the cosmonauts to listen to while wondering if they will survive the mission. Oh well. For the Mother Land!

[@havefunbesafe]

Sooooo beautiful 😻

[@w.p.958]

This is a very cool electro-mechanical marvel! Imagine if you could get it to connect to Glonass and show correct coordinates.

[@Raketenclub]

🤩

[@toxanbi]

Impossible (in general case). It is locked to a specific orbit.

[@edgeeffect]

You'd need quite an amazing digital to analogue converter.

[@w.p.958]

@@edgeeffect Yeah, I was joking. Former avionics geek here. Love the old electro-mechanical and analog computer stuff pre-digital.

[@GuillermoPradoObando]

Amazing, thanks for sharing this. I really want to se the function for seeing the landing area

[@Boring_user_name]

Next challenge: restoring "Buran" shuttle.

[@DeLorean4]

A device like this makes technology and space travel look like magic.

[@simontheconner]

I want that on my desk.

[@usptact]

Amazing! Would go to space just to watch this globe spinning :D

[@bigsarge2085]

Incredible, comrades!

[@xd7z_dime]

amazing, you got it working again..

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

A shame the day/night indicator is not visible in the video.

[@livingdeadbtu]

Glad to see it verking

[@boris3320]

wonderful mechanics

[@cry2love]

Не верится что такую полумеханику использовали на орбите в МКС ещё в 2002 году

[@ackiid]

Надёжность, механике наплевать на высокоэнергетические космические частицы

[@cry2love]

@@ackiid Это точно, электромагнетизм не уничтожит! Но в тут кстати есть платы с цифровыми чипами, так что не полноценно механический прибор

[@iscander_s]

@@cry2love неа, внутри "глобуса" никаких микросхем нету, максимум немножко дубовой электроники, все расчеты которые на нем можно делать происходят чисто механически.

[@cry2love]

@@iscander_s Ну так эти чуваки разбирали это дело, там была электроника, конечно не знаю что она конкретно делает, но тот факт что можно крутить глобус и циферки координат и витков накручиваются, точно говорит что тут впринципе больше и не надо ничего цифрового)

[@Kizim-a5g]

@@cry2love You know the name of that song?

[@dmitryfedorov114]

the globe rotates underneath!

[@soulrobotics]

A lot of questions. What the numbers in the map are for? What proportion they used to move a degree and that will represent a excat point in the crosshair...please diasemble it!

[@heatshield]

Awesome

[@SteelHorseRider74]

now that looks like a wild ride around the planet...

[@maxdakul]

Didn't Q have the Austin Martin fitted with something similar?

[@alexanderross2786]

that is just so cool!

[@kakabukkake0]

My body is ready!

[@Mono_Bro]

just wanted to go into space with this thing

[@moviestudioland]

faster than a hypersonic missile Great work.

[@benjaminhanke79]

I had to reposition my phone cause I'm using apps that force me into portrait mode. #InTheRightOrientation

[@fanplant]

Love it! Have you gotten a copyright claim on the music?

[@KD5NJR]

Very interesting.

[@LeytonC]

Awesome!

[@Nicoya]

Must be a pretty low orbit to be going around the earth that fast. Better duck when it comes by!

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

[@Sardikar]

it spins!

[@Wim37u]

Yeah!

[@soniclab-cnc]

so cool!!

[@skfalpink123]

I want one! I want one!

[@mbreakn]

Lets drink vodka, comrades. spasibo nazdorovie

[@yuglesstube]

That's cool

[@nojbik]

How did You managed to move it electricaly?

[@benjaminhanke79]

I'm sure we will see it in the next episode. Maybe a hack, driving the motor directly.

[@mysticmarble94]

Inverse Mouse Ball 🤭

[@johndododoe1411]

He probably faked the sensor inputs that would come from the gyros etc. on actual spaceships.

[@diogom612]

@@johndododoe1411 There's no gyro input for this. You give it the orbital period and it moves

[@kallewirsch2263]

Since there is an input for the clock, I guess you need to send in clock pulses which drive a mechanism (selenoid drives a ratchet mechanism). Feed in the clock pulses faster and it moves faster.

[@YassineKAOUANE]

IT WORKS

[@Edisson.]

I see that the repair was successful 👍

[@nigeljames6017]

I think Marc is cheating us here. I imagine him sitting on a stationary bicycle pedaling furiously just to get the effect.

[@Edisson.]

@@nigeljames6017 😂 I don't think so, if you look closely there is a regular displacement of the globe depending on one revolution, I have no idea if they managed to fix the harnesses or they made a replacement connection and I don't care because I don't work with them on the project and it's beautiful.

[@nigeljames6017]

@@Edisson. Sorry Tomas, I was just joking. I think in the previous video Marc discovered that there was a relay that had to be clicked twice (?) to progress the globe through one stage. I imagine that he just attached on oscillator with a boost amplifier (to the correct voltage) and shot the video that way.

[@Edisson.]

@@nigeljames6017 I also laughed too - that's why the smiley face, just the idea of him somewhere around the corner pedaling to Soviet rhythms on an exercise bike 😂 and I saw the video. Nice day 😁 Tom

[@CuriousMarc]

You are correct we connected to the relays (Master Ken found some wires still connected). The tough part was to resync the longitude part of the movement, which had been messed up by the globe having been dislodged. I’ll explain this in a future video, but I was excited to share this.

[@listerdave1240]

Is it filmed in time lapse or was it made to go that fast by speeding up the drive pulses?

[@SeanBZA]

I would say time lapse, the 2Hz clock would probably stop operating at around 6Hz completely, just due to the inductance of the coil limiting the current.

[@CuriousMarc]

Both! Time lapse, and overclocked at 10 Hz (normal speed is 1 Hz).

[@LongTran-em6hc]

Wow, your house is FAST!

[@ivolol]

What speed / orbital height is your theoretical spacecraft going at here?

[@bshthrasher]

ISS orbital height is ~418 km, speed is 28,000 kmph, it goes 16 times around the Earth in 24 hours. So the length of orbit is ~42,000 km. Since the globe does full rotation in 10 seconds in this video, we can assume that they've accelerated it to 4200 kmps or 15,1 million kilometers per hour. This is 540 times faster than ISS :D

[@_techana]

prevet tovarishch! Let's cry for dream collapsed!

[@Raketenclub]

aaaah, just.... WOW :D

[@Damien.D]

That is a pretty very, very low orbit ;)

[@gvi341984]

We need 3d renders of all the parts. Could we have one without the audio?

[@UnitSe7en]

You know volume sliders exist. And how are they supposed to model all the parts, let alone produce for you a render?

[@gvi341984]

@@UnitSe7en I want to hear the mechanical noises and renders? Take it apart and use your smartphone to catalog every part into 3D render. This would be an amazing DIY on a 3D printer

[@UnrealVideoDuke]

I thought it rotated on more than one axis?

[@brianstacy7228]

It does. Watch the video again, the places the x flies over shifts slightly as the globe rotates under the orbiting object.

[@HicSvntDracones]

"slightly" overclocked

[@slowneutron6163]

Love it. But I subbed out the Russian music with the Benny Hill theme.

[@simonabunker]

Is this the real time speed? If so I didn't realise orbits were that fast!

[@ВладиславНемов-р3б]

no. one turn takes ~1,5 hour

[@phuhaoanguc5489]

What's the song name?

[@fuattopcu2553]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4C6gpKvd7mJZtE

[@soniclab-cnc]

cue music: He's got the whole world in his box.... he's got the whole wide world in his box...

[@Kizim-a5g]

Do you know the title of that music?

[@soniclab-cnc]

@@Kizim-a5g yes I believe the song is called Korobeiniki.

[@Kizim-a5g]

@@soniclab-cnc I'm very grateful to you

[@BoBaH_BoBaHoB]

Please more soviet-russian stuff!

[@enzofitzhume7320]

Adjust your PWM. I think the orbit speed is a little fast. looks good! 👍

[@tech29X]

Music sounds much better at x0.75 playback speed.

[@Xoferif]

Does it really play that tune?

[@frog58079]

No. Marc just thinks that it makes video "more Russian" (but, as a Russian I experience completely opposite feelings because this music linked to many American movies and clips about Russia. So now it is more American than Russian...)

[@nigeljames6017]

I reckon it’s the “Russianized” version of elevator music.

[@michaelturner4457]

It never used to, but it does now.

[@CuriousMarc]

Calm down everyone. It’s a musical joke from this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7IpZqEhbFgfrM . From the Russian Tetris game.

[@Chiavaccio]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@jimsmith7212]

Those Russians orbited REALLY fast.

[@JohnBare747]

Da!

[@I967]

It might not be very accurate and it may be quite limited in its practical use, but it is possibly the most visually interesting and the most beautiful instrument of them all. Looking forward to the next episode, Marc.

[@UnitSe7en]

Define "not accurate". They flew these to the ISS until 2002. I think it's perfectly accurate.

[@I967]

@@UnitSe7en It is perfectly accurate for its intended use, but compared to a digital screen readout, it lacks in accuracy and flexibility quite considerably.

[@1djbecker]

@@UnitSe7en It is the soviet approach summarized. Simple and claimed to be cheaper while being "just as good". They had to make one for every mission, so they simply made a unique globe that matched the mission. But it has substantial drawbacks. It only handles circular orbits at a fixed inclination. It doesn't compensate for secondary effects that results in accumulated errors over time and orbits. The earth isn't sperical, and it isn't homogenous. Magnetic and solar effects will change the inclination. It's an approximation that is good enough if everything goes as planned on a short mission. One huge drawback is that It's largely useless for navigation and planning if something goes wrong during launch or subsequent circulization burns.

[@cf453]

@@1djbecker Small addendum: For a slightly elliptical orbit, it will still be correct in two locations per orbit, and the corrections are relatively easy to calculate and eyeball estimate on the globe.

[@1djbecker]

@@cf453 It's not indicating altitude, and not showing a especially precise locations, so it's not going to be too bad for a modestly elliptical orbit. If you need to actually navigate beyond the nominal mission, it's pretty much "yeah, here's a globe, too bad about the situation".

[@Enjoymentboy]

Very cool. Now get it to play tetris. :)

[@aamiddel8646]

Makes me dizzy..

[@db3501]

For some reason, European people get all suspicious when they see a globe with RED LINES on it that don't exactly align with their established political borders 😀

[@AndyFletcherX31]

Probably bad memories

[@Raketenclub]

i still believe that space people dont know borders... space stuff is beyond that. ;-)

[@UnitSe7en]

@@Raketenclub I believe the United Federation of Planets has something to say about borders in space. ..And the Klingons.. ...And the Romulans.. ..And the...

[@db3501]

Some people believe the Nazis are on the backside of the moon by now, according to that "Iron Sky" movie, while others have located them in the heart of the US government. Which one is worse, U tell me 🙂

[@1djbecker]

@@db3501 That was the movie where I learned that space nazis wear overcoats over their spacesuits.

[@juniorprt-s2262]

Perfect, nice device. now we must stop fawning over russians :D

[@SubTroppo]

I wonder whether the instrument had any real utility or was it just a sophisticated pram toy?

[@1djbecker]

It gave the crew an independent way to time a de-orbit burn when they didn't have radio communication, or if the radios failed. It also gave a better visualization of the radio contact opportunities and chances of success -- remember that the Soviets and Russians didn't have access to TDRS for continuous coverage of relayed communication.

[@sivik_777]

Хахах. Смешно)

[@sturmbannfuhrerhans8212]

Ohh those Russians

[@estudiom142]