Curly's Final SECRET Appearance On the Three Stooges THAT You ABSOLUTELY DID NOT See!

[@ddavenpAZ]

“Soitenly! You wouldn’t think I’d be eatin in this dump!” 🤣 Love that line! Very cool video and great information. The Stooges are truly missed.

[@stevenj9970]

What a pity to delete that scene, that would’ve been hysterical and a wonderful further tribute to in my opinion the greatest stooge of all….

[@sandtoy11510]

I’m thinking Moe was protecting his brother. Curley was not at his best, and Moe didn’t want people to see him (Curley) in that condition

[@stevenj9970]

@@sandtoy11510 yes I get that. But that script was so well tailored to Curley. It’s a shame. In the late 70s I went to school in Chicago - the Biograph theater showed a three stooges festival one weekend in which I attended. It was packed! And all was well until about an hour in when they showed a Three Stooges featuring shemp , not Curley . The Theatre went crazy they literally had to stop that reel and then only show Curley from that point on it was fabulous!!!

[@dianetheisen8664]

@@stevenj9970 Well l Curly was the best Stooge, (in my opinion)!

[@molonaabe]

Without doubt, Curly was the best and funniest stooge of all time !

[@abrahamlincolnjones2922]

How would you like to own the copy of that scene? It would be worth millions!!!

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Curley looks SO different with hair. So sad that chef scene was cut.

[@hidingposer3422]

Curly had long hair and was a opera singer. If I remember correctly. They thought he was too pretty to be a stooge. He shaved it all off.

[@eddieboggs8306]

He had a mustache too.

[@razorback9926]

There never was a scene, just the promo still shown here. Curly was too ill, his scene was never done. So says Larry Fine.

[@debbutcher9087]

@@razorback9926 , This makes more sense. I can’t believe that they’d cut out a scene with Curly in it. I’m sure he was too sick to do it. They probably did want him to do it, but I can’t believe he did it.

[@richarddoyle3420]

"Hot dog. They'll take rabbit!" Didn't notice the change of temperament. Thanks! Legalize Shemp. Pass it on!

[@hondaguy59]

This channel never ceases to amaze me. What a great way to start the New Year, by finding out a nugget of Curly trivia tucked away for all to now enjoy. 'Great Job Rick'

[@jeffreyfridkis4811]

Even though Curly's cameo appearance was used in HOLD THAT LION at a time when he was feeling better, his cameo role as the quick tempered chef in MALICE IN THE PALACE was deleted because his failing health affected his performance. Afterward, he suffered further massive strokes. In 1952, Curly died from stroke related complications at age 48.

[@martytambasco6867]

Excellent back story, Rick! As you were explaining the deleted scene I was thinking how cool it would be if someone actually had a copy of that, and then, you touched on that idea also. What a treasure for Stooge fans is that little 10 second outtake every reappeared! Keep up the outstanding work, Rick! Always look forward to your KZbin posts.

[@timmcinnes2594]

Had a look in my attic today and found the 10 second scene with Curly. Also, the Marx Brothers in "Humor Risk" and Lon Chaney in "London after Midnight". Think they're worth anything?

[@martytambasco6867]

For 3 Stooges fans, I think you have just hit upon gold!

[@stevebengel1346]

@@timmcinnes2594 nah, might as well toss that trash

[@stevensalemi6395]

@@timmcinnes2594B.S.

[@Jared_Wignall]

I knew of the last time we see Curly being asleep on a train, with a full head of hair and a hat over his face. It’s interesting to hear about him making another appearance later, but it’s a shame it was cut. Thanks for the video Rick, hope you’ll have a great year and keep out the great work!

[@Matthewsmollen4]

I wish they had Curly’s cameo in Malice In The Palace.

[@ricknineg]

Me too!

[@jackieh925]

Me three!

[@Coolremac]

I wonder if Columbia has the cut scene stored away in a vault somewhere.

[@johntuttle2825]

Good and interesting video, Rick! I knew about Curly being in the scene on the train in "Hold that Lion!" But not Malace in the Palace. Would like to see chef Curley. I knew about his health issues too. Big Stooges fan. Although, I lost some collectibles. Over the years. Take care. Happy New Year! Like all your videos, Rick.

[@dianetheisen8664]

Too bad about your collectibles -- I'm sure they were worth something. And I'm sure you enjoyed them, too.

[@Foggy_Morning]

When I worked for a film storage vault at a military base, there were scores of Three Stooges negatives in their cans at that vault. I wonder if any of those had the missing footage. I wish I knew who worked there now.

[@RichardRitenour0522]

Pretty interesting story, hope someone finds and puts that cut on the internet so the world can enjoy it. Always awesome Rick!

[@mattc3696]

Your detailed research is remarkable, Mr. Nineg. I absolutely love all your work and fine persona. Happy New Year, dear man.

[@kevinmiller6380]

Yes, Curly shot the footage as the chef for Malice In The Palace, but he never recovered from the stroke he suffered in 1946, but his performance was very lackluster, so his scene was cut and his chef's role went to Larry.

[@milojanis4901]

Yes, there's a reason it was deleted. That reason most likely is because it wasn't up to the standards that Curley had prior to the stroke(s). Sad.....

[@icyshack5946]

Supposedly Harry Cohn head of Columbia pictures was insistence on Curly continuing working when he should have stopped earlier.

[@kevinmiller6380]

@@icyshack5946 I read that, too. Cohn was stupid doing what he did; his piss poor treatment of Curly cost Columbia their MVS (Most Valuable Stooge), and paved the way for Shemp's return. And you may know the fact that Curly's unhealthy eating and heavy drinking started after his second wife divorced him in 1940. Unfortunately Curly made himself believe that women would find him unappealing because of his shaved head, which to me, was a copout.

[@icyshack5946]

@@kevinmiller6380 Cohn was detested by many. I like the stooges cause Moe and Shemp were dedicated brothers.

[@kevinmiller6380]

@@icyshack5946 You're absolutely right. When Shemp came back to replace Curly, Cohn expected him to take a pay cut. When Moe made one of his guest appearances on The Mike Douglas Show in 1973, even he admitted Cohn was a tyrant. Between Cohn and Ted Healy, I'd say Cohn was worse than Healy.

[@sallyn2393]

One of my favorite shorts. It doesn’t even look like Curly, wow. Had no idea about this, thanks for bringing it to us. Happy New Year! Looking forward to a great year of videos!🎉🌟🎉

[@dianetheisen8664]

I agree. I thought for sure that Rick was going to say that the gentleman in the turban was Curly. It sure looked like him!

[@fizixx]

I thought exactly the same.

[@christopherkraft1327]

A Happy & Healthy New Year to you Rick & your family!!!! Thank you for your continued great content, I'm proud to be part of the Rick Nineg family!!! Continued growth & success for 2022!!! 🎉🎊🎈

[@robertrhodessr3664]

Thanks Rick for a great beginning to 2022! Best wishes for you to have a healthy happy year! God bless you, and stay ☺

[@ricknineg]

Happy new year to you!

[@wallacelang1374]

I would have liked to have seen Curly Howard as the chef in the "Malice In The Palace" film short, but I thank you for providing a description of the scene along with the approximate dialogue. I have always been a fan of The Three Stooges, primarily the Moe Howard, Larry Fine & Curly Howard configuration.

[@dianetheisen8664]

Calling 📞 Dr Howard, Dr Fine, Dr Howard. I love the Stooges, too!

[@robmiller931]

Happy New Year!! I was thinking maybe another reason Moe thought about bringing Curly back was to give him some kind of motivation to recover..giving him something to look forward to if he did

[@christopherhelms7290]

The cameo would have been good for his morale, and ours.

[@orangehornet57]

Malice in the Palace is one of four shorts that ended up in the public domain. It's also one of four shorts remade using fake Shemp. The Marx Brothers went from four to three. There were at least five in total. Shemp was a Stooge first. Curly replaced him. After his stroke, Shemp came back.

[@timmcinnes2594]

"Malice in the Palace" was made in 1949, when Shemp was in good health, no need for a fake Shemp. Fake Shemp was used in a 1955 short "Rumpus in the Harem" after Shemp had died. "Rumpus in the Harem" uses some footage from "Malice in the Palace", along with fake Shemp, who is considerably taller than the real Shemp.

[@russellfarina9099]

Thumps up Rick! Great research on this part of stooge lore. I already knew that curlys part in this had been cut but I didn't know exactly what his part consisted of., If there was dialogue for him etc. That clears up alot of questions. Love stooges trivia and unknown facts!

[@stevegallo8483]

The story is Curly's scene in Malice in the Palace was deleted because of how frail he looked as a result of the strokes. The story about his strokes affecting his speech is also probably true. Also, according to Moe, the Four Stooges scenario was discarded because of Curly's poor health. He was quoted as saying "The Four Stooges could not be sustained." That had to be because of Curly's health.

[@GaryTBuffalo24]

That is so cool. I watched the Three Stooges for 50 years and I didn't know that. Thanks Rick!

[@lewisojeda]

I did not know about this particular appearance with Curly. Thanks for the great video!

[@donnicholas7552]

Wow! I wasn't aware of this. I would've loved to have seen the Curly scene!

[@ZooomaCW]

Good stuff! It's been years since I've watched The Three Stooges. This video makes me want to get some queued up! Always great laughs!!

[@dianetheisen8664]

Buy the DVD 📀. It's great!

[@Bigbadwhitecracker]

They are all over KZbin. Get going!

[@wardroland270]

Thanks RN. Great job. God bless. HAPPY NEW YEAR !

[@randsautos]

Happy 2022 for you and your family, I wish that all your dreams merge into reality

[@kjpphotography4764]

That is a shame that they threw away the scene. Loved Curly!

[@billyboy8534]

I wish Curly had taken better care of himself so that he could've continued his legacy with the Stooges.

[@BigG833]

Curly was a great stooge. Back around 1986, his grandson appeared as a contestant on Elaine Joyce's syndicated version of "The Dating Game." He didn't look much like Curly. Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo ..... Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk. Back around 1983/84, there was a song called "The Curly Shuffle." It was funny when Shemp was trying to eat the hot dog as it licked him like a real dog would do.

[@geraldvanhees779]

@Phil Silverman it was a shame to not give curly a rest in 1945. One of the big shots wouldn't allow it. Cruel individual

[@chuckles1357]

Thank you so much for this info! I had always heard about a deleted last segment of Curly, but you have now answered my question!! Malice in the Palace, and he was a chef!! Dang, he didn't look like himself at all in that still!! Thanks again...!

[@glennrobbins2372]

I also remember reading somewhere that the scene was discarded because of how the stroke Curly had affected his speech and they thought that audiences wouldn't be able to understand him

[@judykessinger3552]

Thank You for sharing! Didn't know the guy on the train was Curly. Would've been great to see Curly in this episode. Happy New Year!!

[@Mrd9960]

Lol how did you not know that was him on the train? It looked like him and he did his famous woo woo woo and his dog bark, no offense but someone has to be totally blind not to see that was him.

[@mamas.8259]

Excellent video👍👍👍👍👍

[@AnthonyBarthelCurbside]

Happy new year 🎊 and this is great. I hope somewhere somebody finds this clip and we can see it.

[@frankfrank9437]

Happy New Year! great way to start the New Year!

[@PaulTesta]

Rick, Best wishes for a Happy, Healthy & Prosperous 2022!

[@Charlysfarm420]

Best to you in the new year 🙏✌

[@movieedge7370]

Happy New Year my Friend 🍻

[@tammyevans7333]

Happy New Year, , looking forward to more great videos in 2022

[@CLOWNBOT00]

My favorite scene of that episode was when the dog and cat got into it under the table and the two men flipped the table over causing the food to fly, following up with the slap schtick from Moe onto Shemp and Larry. 😊😊😊

[@MrNeatoMiniStock13]

Curly was my favorite of the Stooges, and it was fun to see him on screen with Moe, Shemp and Larry at the same time. He had problems remembering his lines in several episodes, and that could have possibly been part of the reasoning behind the scene in Malice in the Palace was deleted. According ro Moe, they tried to put him in other episodes as well, but none of them worked out that well, and those scenes were also left on the cutting room floor. May they all continue to Rest Peacefully.

[@gns423]

Very cool! Too bad it was cut. Thanks for posting

[@thrashpondopons2776]

Happy New Year Rick!

[@edwardkellogg1284]

Very interesting. Funny you did a video on this. I watched the Three Stooges tonight and this video was showing. Very hilarious short.

[@merccadoosis8847]

Wonderful video & information. While I had seen the still before, I had not been aware of the dialog. "“Soitenly! You wouldn’t think I’d be eatin in this dump!” - that would have been a classic line. How I wish it had been included.

[@June-tb4vi]

Thanks so much for this video! Love these guys! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

[@fizixx]

Very interesting info, thanks 🙂

[@fnln544]

Rick, Thanks for your great shared movie history!

[@gailwatson4927]

Thank you Rick. Happy New Years.

[@brianrebmann5398]

Happy New Year to you Rick. Your videos are always a treat and your channel is a favorite of mine. Thanks for a great video with a fun topic. Keep up the great work

[@JM_Friends]

I remember that short too...I had a dvd with the Curly bit before it was cut but have yet to find the dvd.

[@leslieschoenberg]

Happy New Year Rick. Love you channel

[@LIFETHRUAWINDSHIELDDanielTChea]

THATS why I enjoy your channel so much I don't know how you dig up these little nuggets but it's fascinating

[@funguykel]

Curley's comedy timing and acting was classic. It's to bad the way his career ended.

[@parkerottoackley5587]

Wow,didn't know that Thanks brother

[@leeparks15]

Love you, Rick! BE HOPEFUL! 🎉🎊

[@melissacooper4282]

I've always wondered how Curly's scene would've played out had they kept it in the final film.

[@FreiheitGalleries]

As a child, I remember seeing that scene as you explained. I’m sure it is out there some where. Anyway, your channel is great!!

[@ricknineg]

Thank you so much for enjoying the channel

[@antblake1030]

Poor Curly. He could have potentially lived until the first couple of years of the 21st century. It would have been interesting to have seen him live that long.

[@billgreen1861]

Happy New Year!🥂🍾🎊🎆🎇 Happy and Healthy 2022.

[@NicoTineman]

An interesting thing about this is that it is said that Curley died from obesity.. when in fact, he had lost quite a bit of weight before he died. in fact, Curley never was that obese.

[@sandmonjones8004]

Thanks for the educational update. Certney would be nice to see that deleted scene.

[@JEFFIE-jp6kj]

What a shame that they deleted Curly's last appearance :/

[@francistubolino8810]

This is absolutely interesting!

[@Bigskyguy56]

An excellent video to start off 2022. Thanks for sharing this video.

[@ricknineg]

You’re most welcome

[@Bigbadwhitecracker]

Wow! I had no idea! There could be a master print in Columbia's vaults somewhere. I would be so cool to have a restored version.

[@billruppert5483]

Wow, I knew about Hold That Lion but this is amazing, truly a rare find.

[@hungfao]

Good find.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Love your channel Rick!!!

[@ricknineg]

Thanks so much

[@josephoshea1442]

Interesting. I thought that Curly's stroke left him unable to stand or walk, but he obviously is standing in the still photo. What a find!

[@ladyagnes7781]

Wow, Corley is recognizable in his non-dialog scene in Hold That Lion, but in this scene he looks so different. But for him to have a scene with some dialog....soitenly! His voice is unmistakable, as was his natural feel for comedy & his perfect timing. I do hope someone dies find this scene.

[@stephenchase2537]

This channel is earning almost 140,000 subscribers and 40,600,000 worldwide views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ricknineg]

Isn’t that crazy? I have the best supporters

[@sauluribe7082]

There's also been occasions where Shemp has played two characters in some episodes

[@dianetheisen8664]

Yes, and Moe, too.

[@harryzlotzlottos5715]

How rare would it be to have a Stooges episode, consisting of Curly Howard, Emil Sitka, and Vernon Dent…with the working title .. ‘Ruttin Tuttin at Shmow’s Palace’. Cheers from Australia !

[@ricknineg]

Greetings from across the pacific

[@harryzlotzlottos5715]

@@ricknineg Hi rick 👋🏻 .. in the early eighties, I had a good dozen Three Stooges episodes on super 8 film ! Enjoyed them all, especially A- Plumbing We Will Go and Dizzy Pilots ! Thanks

[@timmcinnes2594]

My alias is Hassen bin sober. I've had a few too many myself.

[@harryzlotzlottos5715]

@@timmcinnes2594 Hey, spinach chin, you mean your only a doorman! 🚪

[@ricknineg]

Such a funny line

[@arlanderhightower]

thank you for the wonderful infomant. and god bless you to and your...

[@Chaomhainn]

Rick I enjoyed your presentation today- January 13,2022. I recall seeing Malice in the Palace back in the 70's. The deleted scenes with Curly , I saw the non-edited scene you mentioned . My asumption is the local network got hold of the orginal print before it was recalled by Columbia . Cheers 01/13/2022

[@jhnstn1]

That almost looks like Joe Besser behind Shemp at 1:01. :)

[@fuyu5979]

Awesome least known info of Curly's original appearance in Malice In The Palace. Ur vids provide a wealth of info. Kudos. Looking forward to ur next one.

[@ricknineg]

Thank you kindly

[@radicalross7700]

I always thought Curly's scene in "Malice in the Palace" had gone the way of the silent films Moe appeared in as a kid: irretrievably destroyed.

[@zachwheeler9846]

Wish they hadn't deleted this scene, it sounded like it would've been funny and it would've been nice to see Curly again. Great video

[@FirefighterKWann]

This all originally came from Larry Fine in his Bio he wrote in the early 70s. Many claim this isnt Curly, but look at pictures of Curly around the time of the episode was made, he lost a ton of weight.

[@pl5624]

Ted Healey...the stooges first boss...got into show biz in 1912....110 years this year!

[@garykcs5532]

Great job love the stogies

[@tybelger8079]

Very interesting!

[@tootalazaaz]

I’m almost definite I’ve seen that version with Curly. Happy New Year 🎊

[@haywoodyoudome]

@@mulehead126 A lot of people have now go play in traffic.

[@tootalazaaz]

@@mulehead126 The train one I have seen. I’ve seen one with a guy handling a cleaver and dog barking. Unless that’s a different episode with the same premise.

[@mulehead126]

@@tootalazaaz yes, that was Curly sleeping on the train. The short was Hold That Lion. The one in that publicity photo with Curly wearing a chef's hat and holding a cleaver, that scene was never in the short.

[@tootalazaaz]

@@mulehead126 thanks for the info.

[@SuperMarioBrosIII]

Yes I've read about this Curely filmed his scene as the chef aka cook but for whatever reason the footage filmed wasn't used!🤔

[@aviatortrucker6198]

I may be a little confused but isn’t malice in the Palace when Shemp had his heart attack and they could not finish filming it? Or was that during a different short?

[@mulehead126]

Shemp had the heart attack that he died from in 1955, six years after Malice. There were four shorts released following his death that used mostly stock footage, and in new scenes Joe Palma was the infamous "fake Shemp".

[@dinahnicest6525]

Poor Shemp. To be forever remembered as the guy who wasn't as good as Curly. As if anyone could have been! Of course, we all love Curly best, but I love Shemp too.

[@ANDROLOMA]

Shemp looked so much like Moe.

[@cfan6716]

Oh wow, I never knew this! Thats hilarious....just imagine angry Chef Curly lol!

[@JaredGriffiths2000]

Yeah I heard about his cameo in Malice in the Palace. Shame we didn't get to see him but maybe it would've been to sad because of his health. Maybe it would've been like Laurel and Hardy in Atoll K.

[@carlambroson8872]

I love the Malice in the Palice sketch!

[@shad0wrealms116]

There is an edit with him in it. the show used to play on tbs if I'm not mistaken and that particular episode had the curly screen in it. He also used a strong fake accent during the sceen. There was also another short where curly was again on a train but he was in a trench coat with sunglasses and hat and had a really long beard.

[@drewzilla4800]

We used to watch the stooges on WSBK Boston, channel 38, home of the bruins prior to heading out on New Years Eve and then watching them again in the morning after new years .

[@johnny-becker]

Since we are talking about film, "deleted" would not be the proper word. Edited out, taken out or even cut out (as in "on the cutting room floor"). One cannot delete anything from film... well, I suppose with X-ray or a magnet you could.

[@SiriusJMoonlight]

They mostly just used the word "cut," (or edited) until there were other things than film.

[@dorothycastaneda8760]

They should've left the Curly scene in.They didn't know back then what a treasure that would've been for us stooge fans.I think Curly won our hearts with his antics.

[@nightfangs2910]

I wonder often how much footage of the stooges their grandchildren have of them together would love to see their home movies

[@michaelrochester48]

Rick I kind of knew about that scene from several books I wrote about the three stooges

[@phil8702]

This was very interesting. I haven't seen anything from the Stooges in decades.

[@sgauden02]

Too bad we never got a chance to see this scene. I also wish we could've had a Three Stooges episode with Curly and Shemp together!