Currency Quickie: 3 to 1 Uniques & Tainted 6 Links

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[@johnnyseattle7385]

2011. I've been playing this game for over 11 years, and every day I feel like I just haven't learned a damned thing. :)

[@testacttester]

I agree but Ive also found there is just A LOT of random niche shit in this game that in many ways doesnt really matter if you knew it or not depending on what your goals of the game are

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

The game is kinda designed that way. Lots of different ways to play with tech to optimize each bit of it. I know absolutely nothing about syndicate, for instance. People tend to learn enough to get comfy playing their way and then stick in that lane for a while. Nothing wrong with that

[@xianfengmeng2676]

There is always a triangle: "chaos per divine", "chaos price for X", and "divine price for X" where X is some bulk of currency/resonator/essence/scarub/etc. When I am bored with grinding, I sometimes flip the X and take advantage of the price difference. It's not as profitable per se, but the return increases when the bulk gets bigger, and the risk is 0%. It's just like saving money in the bank and gaining interest.

[@hitlord]

90% of the time that's exactly what I do. Easy profit, and it's almost seamless with gameplay. No requirement to stop and do 300 tasks before selling, just keep playing, tab is getting a little full, sell. Weirdly enough though, one of my few exceptions was flipping Brass Domes this league. I'm unsure if it was because of Pohx or someone else, but at week 3 to about the end of month 2, Brass Domes were going out for over 8div, with shit rolls going for lower than what he's showing. Profits were ridiculous.

[@davidmaltais2912]

Yet now they are 2 divs lol

[@hitlord]

@@davidmaltais2912 Righteous Fire builds vanish fast. They are good for making money early in the league, but get outclassed really fast as the days pass. Since Brass Domes were going out mostly for them, it's understandable that the price is in the gutter. Specially with the market being flooded.

[@TalesOfSurvival]

@@hitlord yeah you need to do some market research but it's not hard really. look up the most popular builds and look through the gear for something like this. 6-link is gonna be the thing that lets you do the flip most time so focus on those. also poe ninja is great for doing this.

[@EazyHelper]

😂❤😂 6:46

[@KenNywithrice]

Thanks for the beastcrafting tip, I never would've found that myself. Tainted currency is new to me too, so watching it in action was interesting.

[@revanbane]

This series is amazing and panders to my easily distracted brain, thank you for all the tips you're sharing with us!

[@Kuehta]

Love this new series, keep them coming! :)

[@MatAndHisHat]

I'm loving these quickies by Sub!

[@WeR2VEVO]

I did a ton of 3 to 1 for gigantic profit back when To Dust wasn't a corruption-only jewel (in 3.18/3.19 mostly, when ward loop was very popular). Random jewels were costing me 40-60c, and a well rolled one was selling for anywhere between 6 and 10 div. I have also done Brass Dome but the profit is usually a bit lower overall.

[@iampongchi]

Nice! I love this new episodes of yours! Keep it up!

[@igorz5804]

It's always nice to watch you.

[@osirisianplays8089]

this series is great. thank you for sharing :)

[@ZildoghUNTER]

That is so useful, wow, keep it coming!

[@AGR_13]

I love this sort of content, but also don’t because when I’m a little bored of playing, but wanna make currency I always go straight for strats like this. Made about 140div the last 2days just buying div cards and then selling the end product in bulk. Another thing that is always worth checking it wether or not +1 to socketed gems is a worthwhile corrupt on certain popular items. Since +1 can roll on any item and only requires a item level of 1, getting div cards of unique items such as The Squire, and then turning them in with a level 2 character l, means that you have and 1-5 chance for corruption implicit to roll +1. And 2/5 chance if you are double corrupting. Things like these will go from very profitable for a few days to not profitable at all, but there is always another market. Great content

[@burningpipe2627]

What card did you profit from? 140 is pretty significant.

[@TalesOfSurvival]

@@burningpipe2627 poe ninja is the place to go to find the data you are looking for.

[@DanDebacle]

I just wanted to say I'm a huge long time noob and I tried a little bit of this strategy. My heart was racing and when I was done all I could think.. I did it? That was it? Awesome video and thank you.

[@Olden2610]

Used this strat with Dome in Kalandra. Really nice profit :) Importaant note - you can't vendor 3 to 1 with corrupted items

[@the_gengar_master]

I think I'm finally wrapping my head around tainted currency. I need to study what the most popular uniques to corrupt are next. Biggest problem are 98% of the uniques are bad that nobody uses.

[@icecoldporksoda3461]

I burned so many damn chaos trying to 3 to 1 brass domes earlier in the league. Never did hit one. Unlucky I know, but can't deny that I'm salty.

[@danzfloor1]

Thank for sharing your knowledge....Do u have a list maybe of uniques that are worth to 3 to 1?

[@jaked5560]

Thanks for the tip! Are you sure quality matters at all for tainted currency (Jewelers/ fusings)? I know it does for thr regular version but i thought it was a flat chance (50/50) to add or remove, unless there's new data out. Either way if you are someone wanting to corrupt I personally think the best method is double corrupting. For this, after you 3:1 and have a roll you want to keep: 1. Before corrupting, make it 6 sockets, and 4linked to save a couple vaals later. I suggest bench crafting 6S, if you are using Jewelers get 20quality first though ( Bench is slightly more expensive but spending on average ~100 Jewelers more is well worth the time saved) 2. Double corrupt 3. Use tainted fuse as described in video (Benchcraft 4Link, tainted fuse to 6Link and if you hit a 3Link Restart this step) This way you get a slight value increase if you hit all white sockets on the double corrupt.

[@subtractem]

Quality doesn't affect tainted. The reason we beast craft is because it doesn't risk bricking the item. It just sets the item to corrupted for no risk which allows us to use tainted currency for a cheap 6 link. This is a general mid tier strategy with near zero risk. As soon as you introduce something like double corrupting we are into a higher tier of risk versus reward which turns off most folks and many people can't afford to buy into it either.

[@Ringadon]

well this hit my suggestions.... and got you a sub. gratz

[@Roadtotarget]

this is the kind of guy who you'll teach you to be successful and get paid for doing it

[@ragnarokda206]

I like to spend time buying individual div cards that give a valuable unique. I was spending about 2-3d on the div cards for voidforges and then selling the voidforge for 6-8d. Takes a while but I play on the console so I can submit buy requests and go about playing.

[@bringitlp5177]

Nice Vid thx for sharing that

[@charlespage4380]

LOL looked and found I had a +5 one in stash and the price for it is now 90c. So your video had a profound effect on the market.

[@subtractem]

Just looked and it's still 3 divines. Prices in standard may vary greatly.

[@markt47]

this is awesome!

[@mads9109]

real cool oportuni indeed :D

[@kebb0]

I need more!!

[@BuzzaB77]

I'm in between casual and fanatic. Love the game so I put the hours in, but I play for fun and I play SSF. I'm hardly an efficient farmer either!. I have 200 hrs this league, I have plenty of low level uniques, but haven't seen a single cold iron, brass dome etc. I have exactly 1 tainted chrome and 2 divines haha. But I do like when stuff feels actually rare.

[@wilkstube]

Lol I could have written this comment verbatim :)

[@StropeMan]

You the man!

[@wardablemusic]

great video!

[@ruibarian5187]

This is way better than the last one! I'm poor because I lack skill, so more market manipulation or knowledge-based strategies would be super helpful.

[@theinfernity1799]

How many time per day you can spend with PoE if I may ask :)?

[@ruibarian5187]

@@theinfernity1799 at launch usually like, 8-10, then around 2-4 after that.

[@lordsanto88]

As a new player, how do I know which uniques or stats are valuable for selling? I find that overwhelming and I kinda want to start playing ssf or ruthless, so that every drop is special

[@TarisRedwing]

yep every once in a while before this league I used this to get a 6 link. but 6 links are like ezz candy this league even white ones so you def have to target certain items like this.

[@RobertOkadar]

@subtractem What is the build featured in the background? Looks very interesting. Nice vid, btw.!

[@subtractem]

My frost blades raider, build guide a few videos back. Cheers!

[@Stally]

now see brass dome skyrocket in price after this video

[@theinfernity1799]

I think the point of the video was that you can do this with every unique or so. So if you have 3 vendor gambles with bad rolls, sell those and get a new one... For example. That video also can help people in SSF to remind them about the 3 of the same item vendor recipe.

[@RajeshJustaguy]

im in act 8 now.. new player but just wondering how hard is it to farm for just the materials? am i still early in the game cause they dont seem to drop very often, orb of fusing, divine, etc

[@adrianariton9739]

Love the info , what i don`t love is that the prices of 1% domes are now 60c minimum. So people learned something but cannot apply to be profitable.

[@subtractem]

Yeah the purpose of this video isn't doing specifically the brass dome right now, it's knowing that this is a strategy to take advantage of later. Write it down in a notebook and use it later when people forget.

[@trymusic4life]

same here.. nobody wants to buy.. but technique is learned

[@yle3002]

hi i only got two of this tainted fusing in my stash.Will it still work the same in ruthless mode because the thing is pretty rare.

[@nosequenickponerm]

Damn I would've saved a ton of money when I played my first league. I remember I got an atziri's splendour with +2 levels of duration gems and then tried to craft it with the crafting bench so I had to farm like crazy to buy 1500 vaal orbs and fusings lol, spent like 10 divines haha

[@puru721]

Finally I found you hahaha..thanks mate

[@fkbf161]

So u said the vassal beast craft save corrupt an item what does that mean? Can i prior 6-link with correct colors before i corrupt it? Not sure if i hit my 3 off colors with tainted chromatic :S

[@janodiaz92]

i find this cheat information very usefull, but im curious about that build cause i saw a reave + assailum + frosblades??

[@SweLindN]

Anyone know if 3-to-1:ing on uniques will give the newest version of the item?

[@coreoporeo2394]

Honestly I have thought about using these methods before and was always like "nah that wont work someome would of done it already" and never bothered to check little did I know they work

[@Deaner3D]

easiest currency in the game is setting a notification when a Mathil build video drops. Immediately buy any rare-but-affordable uniques for that build, wait a week, profit ;)

[@gianlucap1935]

Hi, what is the plugin that you are using at minute 05:00 to look for the item prices in the web?

[@subtractem]

Awakened poe trade

[@markofcain7624]

What is the build you have in this video? Is there a video of it?

[@mrturtle3531]

Brass dome Price went to 90c for low roll

[@4X10S]

Agree that this is cheap way to get 6L, I'm using it mostly on good double corrupt items. Don't forget that you can run into a bad streak with this, and you'll need alot of vaal orbs, which is around 1:1c, early in the league even 1.5 or 2c, and 2 fuses is quite lucky, as from my sample I usually hit it in 4-5

[@JackiShadow]

You are got lucky, and not added time needed to buy items, but yeah concept is great, nice vid.

[@Srewtheshadow]

If you wanna go big gamba on this Forbidden Shako and Ventor's are two nutso uniques that can give some fffffffat returns. It's a big risk, so only do these if you're prepared to vendor a TON without a single one coming back as usable, and also be prepared to paruse a ton of results before figuring out which ones are worth selling and which aren't. Safer (and probably better) to stick to stuff like Melding, Brass domes, Tastes of Hate, Dawnbringers and the like, though. Just make sure 3 min rolls aren't too close to a max or near max roll, though.

[@DogoodPOG]

Nice

[@MrDeothor]

2:55 does that beast also provide chance for corrupted implicits? or no changes other than making it corrupted?

[@youradhere3476]

only the quality, can't get any implicits. upside is it can't brick, just 30% quality and corrupt every timr

[@MrDeothor]

@@youradhere3476 thanks :)

[@enduser178]

does this six link crafting bench method work for non-corrupted items/fusings?

[@brandonkruse6412]

No, it requires tainted fusings

[@hodge8947]

Brass Dome is mostly used by VG players this league who use Zerk tech, where you can't have corrupt items

[@subtractem]

Naw, I just looked and VG only represents 16% of Brass Dome usage. It's something good to be aware of before you corrupt though, yes.

[@Sicknificant1]

There are like 10 meta builds and many other that use brass dome. It is an amazing defense item that can be slammed into a lot of builds.

[@gaborfabian3967]

I prefer to double corrupt decent rolls and the 6link and profit

[@alexdeadpool1897]

Rapaz para mim que sou iniciante, me perdi assim que começou o video :)

[@fahrudincatovic8133]

what tool do you use to check items' prices?

[@InfinityGAU]

Awakened poe trade

[@subtractem]

Awakened poe trade

[@lendial]

so clever

[@jaitone]

I just tried this and run out of currency buying the corrupted fusing. 10 trys and nothing. How tf you managed to do it in two tries?¿??

[@franzhahn8348]

Aw yeah. I made it into a subdaddy video. Hey chat. (Lagmawnster here :D)

[@franzhahn8348]

Also, as a sidenote, it's probably cheaper to start at 3 sockets rather than 4, considering tainted jewellers are so cheap. But that's nitpicking. Definitely also watch out for corrupted uniques with nice rolls or cool implicits to 6-link. There's Hyrri's Ires with +2 aura or +2 aoe that can easily be 6-linked and turned a profit on. Similarly, Incandescent Heart is all about the extra chaos damage, Loreweave is all about the max res roll, and there are more... Melding of the Flesh comes to mind.

[@HansWurst-gm2rx]

*cough* Loreweave with Itemlevel 20 *cough*

[@Jbeasty1990]

I'd still manage to lose currency on this lol.

[@CuddleUTube]

iv been doing this last league lmao. why u gotta tell people :c

[@jorduck5821]

What can you see prices with in-game? Thank you.

[@subtractem]

Awakened PoE trade

[@jorduck5821]

@@subtractem Thanks Bro.

[@thewishingpig]

100% price increase on unlinked brass domes, lmao

[@Gennosuke84]

oof.. ive been playing since 2013.. didnt play 3.19 and only lil bit ruthless in 3.20.. I didnt even know about that.. crazy.. sooo damn easy

[@mattowens8800]

didn't expect to be googling the word "arbitrage" today.

[@SuperAbo1]

+vaal orbs craft

[@Treneiro]

yeah very easy and cheap, but then spend more divines to make perfect color socket lol

[@subtractem]

The purpose of this video isn't doing specifically the brass dome right now, it's knowing that this is a strategy to take advantage of later. Write it down in a notebook and use it later when people forget.

[@kpacyc7599]

I've done this hundreds times when +5 brass dome was 5 divines. Now i'd not recommend it, not worth time spent

[@subtractem]

At 3d each with only a 90c buy in with divines at 250c I think this is still very much worth the effort!

[@kpacyc7599]

@@subtractem ok, lets do some math. you can buy about 5-10 of them for your 30c. others will cost more than 30c, 30-100c, market dont have enough chests to abuse this over and over again. lets say you'd pay 40c for each chest. 40*3*5(avg to hit +5)=600c=2.4 divine. your profit will be about 150c for each 15 chests you bought. lets say you'd buy 2 chests per minute(most of the time you can buy only 1 per min, buy let it be like that) - 7.5 min for profit 150c. you can do it 8 times a hour - 1200c profit per hour - 5.8 div in a hour. is this much for anyone? given that the armor is quickly running out on the market, it's not worth the time already.

[@kpacyc7599]

at the moment i text you this there are only 6 chests for 40c on market, others even more costly. ofc you can lifesearch for them but man, i'd better resell some omni and ashes: 2 trades 1-5 div profit, instead of 15 trades for 150c xD

[@NeoFryBoy]

@@kpacyc7599 6d an hour is a lot for most people

[@kpacyc7599]

@@subtractem actually you'll have even more, i forgot about 1 chest you have left after every 3to1 trade to vendor, so, lets say you'll have about 7.8-8div/hour with this. And with this numbers this really looks good for most players even for 3div chest price. Sorry for my scepticism about this, im already a lot above this numbers in every day profit. But hell yea, this strat is still great for most people

[@jamesreed60]

lol any suggestions for standard players?

[@subtractem]

There's a reason why all the richest standard league players still play temp leagues and then flip once it merges. The economy is just too old and stagnant to reliably do any arbitrage there.

[@jamesreed60]

@@subtractem So as a brand new player what are your suggestions for jumping into league and earning some currency. Maybe a video idea for a day 1 start?

[@jamieyost552]

"Even the most casual player", which is me, does not have 60 or 90 chaos orbs

[@subtractem]

Chaos recipe makes about 30 chaos an hour if you do NOTHING else.

[@willy1202]

pogu

[@FatNugget2000]

With how cheap jewellers are at this point of the league i’m pretty sure its worth to 6 socket item first before you corrupt it since every failed attempt at 50-50 is like minimum 10c from the vaals, not to mention cost of tainted jewellers

[@Sicknificant1]

Ill spend 10c on a 50/50 rather than sitting and spamming fuses for god knows how long. And thats why you are still slamming fusings so you can save 10/20c while he is already moving onto the next item he is gonna sell for multiple divine profit.

[@FatNugget2000]

@@Sicknificant1 im talking about the sockets not the links, the links sure but 6 sockets is just too easy and cheap to force rather than use tainted jewellers

[@lolleonlolable]

when u check the marked and one tainted fuse is like 70c :/

[@subtractem]

Yeah last few weeks of a league the prices get wacky. They're only 5-10c each early on.

[@lolleonlolable]

@@subtractem do u know if ruthless works for stone golems slam ability ? i just noticed the damage dosnt change if i select slam or roll it seems to only work for the normal attack ? since u know everything u might know that one too : D? all other gems seem to work but not ruthless

[@subtractem]

@@lolleonlolable would have to check the tags on the ability in poedb. Possible it counts as a spell and isn't supportable.

[@lolleonlolable]

@@subtractem "Slab Slam - AoE melee attack approximately 20 units in radius, 100% physical, taunts enemies, supported by melee/AoE supports." hmm idk then :3

[@fscott8478]

The league is extended again? Feels like every league now is extended...

[@VividFlash]

Next one will be too so the after that lines up with exilecon

[@momchilmilanov4312]

Do ppl really pay attention if their armours have well rolled base values these days or very few pay attention to that

[@subtractem]

It's still not noticed a ton but it can make the difference in some sorting on the trade site.

[@j45002]

Love your videos but the background moving whenever there's a jump cut was a little jarring

[@markycaballo971]

im gonna do this with mageblood to get 4 slots

[@happinesscompilation5252]

The point is if it will sell. Even the hottest items won't sell due to too many suppliers. Cold hard currency drops is the key not this short-term bull crap.

[@subtractem]

You couldnt be more wrong.

[@xgrey777]

EVEN ME ???????????????

[@subtractem]

Especially you!

[@okdanhe]

absolute fucking casual here, but can you change the socket colors of corrupted items?

[@subtractem]

On the bench or with tainted chromes yeah

[@Wizi3lizz]

Sounds good theoretically but actually trying to complete 6 trades at all this late in the league is already worse than chaos recipe... Almost.

[@subtractem]

Every person I whispered responded instantly. Really wasn't bad at all for this late in the league. :)

[@otz6408]

you're wrong tainted jewelers aren't 50/50 you're only like 20% chance to get 1 more.

[@subtractem]

I queried some folks and cross referenced with what is out there, it's at least 30% if not 50%. I know it's been extensively tested to be 50% on fusings but jeweller's I'm not sure if there is enough data yet but even at 30% (which is what the wiki says) it's more than fine.

[@kimysok5657]

yup just by a few click and u get some divine kEk 🤣

[@subtractem]

Yup. It really is that easy. Thinking it isn't possible is what stops you from having currency. I made over 50d doing this last league for just a couple hours.

[@DocKotoga]

You also need a shitton of luck. I've tried to 6-link a chest this league with this method and burned 25 (!!!) tainted orb of fusing until I hit it.

[@brandonkruse6412]

Did you just spam tainted fusings over and over? This method requires using the 4 linked recipe between each tainted fusings because of the greater chance to jump from 4 to 5 and from 5 to 6

[@DocKotoga]

@@brandonkruse6412 No, i did it like sub did it, but it always downgraded my links from 4 to 3. But i have to admit that I'm haunted by misfortune in POE. I've *NEVER* in 5000+ hr playtime 6-linked a normal Item (q20%+) with less than 2,5k orb of fusing. I usually sell my fusings to buy an already 6-linked item. It's usualy cheaper ... :/

[@brandonkruse6412]

@@DocKotoga Well, if you just want a guaranteed 6-link, the recipe is only 1500. Thought imo it’s better to just buy a 6 link chest you need a unique, most are dirt cheap if you don’t need perfect rolls. Only time I ever care about 6 linking my chest myself is if I find one with perfect rolls and/or a good implicit for cheap.

[@nemesis89rus]

I bought corrupted...

[@dervakommtvonhinten517]

5% max res cost now 45c :/

[@subtractem]

Yeah it's a very different world today. There are other uniques you can do this trick with still though.

[@dervakommtvonhinten517]

@@subtractem unfortunately this league is done for. ggg made the same mistake regarding teamplay vs league meachanic they always do + many more like no playtesting whatsoever. so selling stuff right now is horrible :/

[@sepehrseddighi3579]

greetings

[@Enterblathnir]

ngl i hate this. I hate that the best way to earn currency often boils down to this market watch shit. I've gotta have a macro or plugin to see what everything is worth and 2 tabs open with the trade site and poe ninja so i can see currency values. Its an rpg not a market sim. why can't the best way to get currency be playing the game. the only point where playing the game seems to be the best way to get currency is when you are already established and are juicing maps and have an insane speedclear character. at which point your progression and character is probably done.

[@geneticalintrovert226]

Just to make a thing clear. Yes. Everybody has the change to become rich. But not everyone can be rich. For a successful economy you need a small group who earns alot, a big group who consumes alot but isnt pasrticular rich and a poor group. If everyone would be rich then we would have an inflation.

[@geneticalintrovert226]

@@AlexUsername Inflation is a made up concept? Now how is that? Something gets value when there is a market for it. If everyone has everything they need instantly (which would be the case if everyone would be equally "rich") then nothing would have value at day 2 of that Szenario because everyone would have gotten everything at that point.

[@werraven5842]

yeah and because ur popular and making videos on it these no longer work, n1

[@subtractem]

False

[@werraven5842]

@@subtractem we'll see, but usually when stuff like this gets videos on it, it gets nuked from orbit

[@TheAnd1roid]

ok and now delete the video again. the rest dont have to know ;-P

[@tobykenoby3502]

lmao how is it a 1 out of 5 chance to get 5 max res? it rolls between 1-5 max res and 350-400 inc armour percent. I m too lazy to do math right now but thats certainly not 1 in 5 for 5 max res lmao. there is a billion options

[@subtractem]

The armour percent is irrelevant. You're conflating two different things.

[@Vezur-MathPuzzles]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 5 things. 1 one of them is the desired outcome (5). Probability is 1/5 (desired/all). Source: Never too lazy to do the math.

[@osyady]

@@Vezur-MathPuzzles So, it's the same %chance to get 1 as it is to get 5? I would assume it's harder to get 5 and not at all 1/5 chances. Could be wrong, ofc.

[@subtractem]

Yes, divined rolls within a tier are not weighted.

[@Vezur-MathPuzzles]

@@osyady As Subtractem already stated, divine rolls are not weighted :)

[@kotdsm4550]

Dislike this strategy bring lesser double corrupt items in this game

[@towb0at]

nah dude first roll +5 and then you 6link with 2 fusings. Streamer client has never been so obvious. Tbf you could have deleted a full divine here to account for bad luck and still turned a very good profit. Maybe next league I will try the hideout warrior build

[@EntropyUnleashed]

average cost is east to find- 1/5 chance, with 1st try costing 90c and subsequent tries costing 60c (because you get 1 item back per try). - 1/5 chance of hitting +5, so it's 90c + 60c + 60c + 60c + 60c = 330c to get a +5 worth 3 div (750c). - with average luck, over many attempts, 330c per 5 attempts, or long term about 40c profit per brass dome bought @ 30c. if you want a formula to plug future values in to test profitability*: (x - 11y) / 11 = profit in chaos per brass dome bought, where x = cost in chaos of +5 brass dome y = cost in chaos of each brass dome bought

[@h3idixtreme36]