CURRENT STATE OF THE FINALS.

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@Vain786 5 ай бұрын

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@Scotty-Tea 5 ай бұрын

bbc

@horreheitedet4320 5 ай бұрын

I agree with the emote cancel removal, but it’s so unfair to ban people for using something that is a feature in your game. It’s on the developers to ensure there are no exploits, not on players not to use them.

@horreheitedet4320 5 ай бұрын

not to mention people didnt know it was bannable lmao. so stupid. I heard rumors but kept using it because I thought it was fake news since it sounded so stupid.

@banjobear. 5 ай бұрын

As a fellow sword main, I share your hatred of flamethrowers. It's hella annoying to deal with. My entire playstyle revolves around the enemy not being able to hit me and the flamethrower requires absolutely no aim.

@obsn7809 5 ай бұрын

Spacing dude… spacing, you can hit him and be out of range instantly with the superdash you will take some damage but in 1v1 full HP you should win with a sword, in the chaos of the game it is an other story

@ParkerFinals 5 ай бұрын

i think the main issue with heavies and all these explosives, is that its literally only an issue for light players, stuff like that should be percent damage

@3ace846 5 ай бұрын

the devs said "no" coding a percentage damage would somehow take a billion dollars worth of research

@samhyatt4863 5 ай бұрын

@@3ace846has nothing to do with difficulty, it’s that percentage damage would make literally zero sense, for both the user and on the receiving end. It’s not consistent, it’s not intuitive. It’s not something they’re going to add.

@cringe-32 5 ай бұрын

why not just have all classes at 200 health then?🤡

@LarryLongBalls911 5 ай бұрын

Im still banned and idk how am i supposed to get unbanned , txted devs on discord , ignored .so am just gonna quit , all my money went to shit now that im banned.

@Mr.K.dilkington1965 5 ай бұрын

Heavy has always been this strong, people just didn’t notice.

@yourfbiagent9011 5 ай бұрын

probably because there's a fuck ton of heavy mains and other people main it because it's meta

@Mr.K.dilkington1965 5 ай бұрын

@@yourfbiagent9011 I don’t know, I feel like comps like HHM and HHH where not really in most ranked games. Since light nerf (stun gun nerf) I just see them more and more and it’s stupid.

@ShadowZano 5 ай бұрын

"a charging elephant" LMAO

@ItsAllEnzynes 5 ай бұрын

Your “OP” list: Charge and slam: busted as fuck Grenade launcher (heavy): not op Grenade launcher (medium): not OP Explosive Mines: not OP Flamethrower: thing this is actually *bad* unambiguously. RPG: definitely busted. I think the bigger problem is that there exist multiple strong counters to light, but there are no “counters” to medium or heavy. Can you think of a single mechanic that counters a medium or heavy player? Maybe glitch nades at one point, but they nerfed the duration. I would’ve said the taser, but they nerfed that to the ground too. There’s basically nothing in the game that can counter medium/heavy in the same way light gets countered.

@Breezylovesyou 5 ай бұрын

Lol that flame thrower gripe is a swordligt issue only but i feel it haha

@recon_zero9841 5 ай бұрын

This is why game developers shouldn’t listen to pros because these are some of the worst takes I’ve seen. Explosives and heavies are in a good state. Don’t say that they haven’t been nerfed when the c4 and barricade were nerfed. Now the reason people don’t play light is because he has no team utility. He does nothing for the team while heavies and mediums do a lot. You can easily buff him by giving him gadgets that assist the team in a big way. If pros got their way, it would be just like rainbow 6 siege. The game was good and then pros came along and made the devs perfectly balance everything, and now the game is trash.

@recon_zero9841 5 ай бұрын

One more thing before I stop yapping. Explosives do not need to be nerfed. One of the core gameplay features is destruction.

@rizzleybear 5 ай бұрын

I agree with a lot u said. But they still have done quite a bit to nerf heavy. C4s are unusuable, can no longer head glitch with barricade, lewis gun nerfed (still quite good i know), sa1216 nerfed to the ground, mesh shield nerfed and a few other things. Unfortunately, I don't think embark cares much for sword players considering there are very few. Its the sad reality

@nooksta-785 5 ай бұрын

its not even sword its light in general being a throw pick

@Joepoeee 5 ай бұрын

@@nooksta-785 If you know what your doing light is very strong, not a throw pick. Its a glass cannon for a reason

@rezlerr_ 5 ай бұрын

@@Joepoeee yet ranked is nothing but heavies and med dog walking the lobby. bc light is dog water in ranked. diamond light player btw

@Joepoeee 5 ай бұрын

@@rezlerr_ I agree because 90% of the people that play ranked can’t use more than 2 of their brain cells. I’m also a diamond 1 light player.

@nooksta-785 5 ай бұрын

@@Joepoeee ik what im doing, peaked diamond 2. doesnt change the fact that its ass and outclassed in its own purpose, there is zero reason to pick light over one of the other two classes. why pick the glass cannon when you can pick the tank cannon that also has actual team util

@Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 ай бұрын

Banning people for EC was the last straw for me. Gadget swapping is the same exact thing its just slightly harder to pull off and feels way worse and clunky to use. All of the thousands of people calling for emote cancel to be removed had no idea what it even did. So many times I would see someone getting hundreds of upvotes saying "emote cancel needs to be removed because it lets you one shot heavies and triples your TTK", and I know that once EC is removed people are going to learn that EC was never what they had a problem with, it was sword in general because they dont know how to counter it, which is very easy (jump pads, ziplines, open areas, mines etc). Anyways without emote cancel sword feels way clunkier and sluggish to use. Combo that with the constant one shots by charge, rpg, grenade launcher, mines, etc. I got to diamond for S2 and I uninstalled the game. Its impressive how a game could go from 250,000 concurrent players to hovering around 10k now (96% loss of concurrent players) in barely half a year.

@mariusiurea 5 ай бұрын

Ok, I was with you for a moment, then you said that the grenade launcher and Flamethrower on Heavy are overtuned. I get it, you're a melee player, but let's be real, put a team of Flamethrower + grenade launcher heavy against a normal HHM team with Lewis Gun and FCAR and they will have absolutely no chance. You know that, I know you know that. Stop playing dumb. Your criticisms of charge & slam and the RPG are correct, and the medium grenade launcher should maybe do more self damage, akin to the RPG, but mines? Mines my dude? Just don't walk on them. Again, I get it, you're a melee user, you can't shoot them from far away to disable them. The fact that your build gets countered by something doesn't make that thing automatically OP. I think that if they removed charge and slam we would just see a sea of HHM or MMH with heal beam + mesh shield and the game would become a slugfest.

@RAMENISTASTY325 5 ай бұрын

All hail prince Oscar

@Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 ай бұрын

Regarding flamethrower, its one of those things that I feel is kinda tough to balance. Literally the only thing it is good at is being a light fumigator. It is a rock hard counter to light players, doubly so for sword users. But against mediums or other heavies, its almost pointless to use and you get out TTK'd by literally everything but without of the range of the lewis, fcar, ak, etc.

@thegamingapprentice4022 5 ай бұрын

“I got banned for exploiting and got unbanned by crying to a mate” “I’m going exploit a different way now” Bro just stop exploiting lol

@nooksta-785 5 ай бұрын

gadgetswap is intended go check the 2.6.0 patch notes where they specifically added and noted the ability to gadgetswap quick melees

@AdjustSZN 5 ай бұрын

As a CL40 main, I can’t tell you how many times I killed myself with a sword player on me. The worst position you can be in is too close of an engagement.

@RayInOrbit 5 ай бұрын

Skill Issue -A Heavy player

@yourfbiagent9011 5 ай бұрын

Imagine a literal tank manifested as a human, charging at your ass with no remorse, yeah those manifestations exist at The Finals takes a shit ton of bullets to kill, yet they can just one shot you with a fuckin rpg

@washx2k755 5 ай бұрын

yes lil bro vain

@Toastybuns123 5 ай бұрын

100%...fucking preach it

@FUNFUN_101 5 ай бұрын

Light is stronger than heavy more of his weapons are actually usable why do all these light mains act like they’re getting kills with a character that is blind crippled and has no function of his fingers it’s like bro he’s not even weak that’s all I see people use is light now a days and you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about because there’s no one shot explosives in the game they took it out for light mains like you and the fact you’re complaining about the cl40 is crazy

@ParkerFinals 5 ай бұрын

King spitting facts

@ShadowZano 5 ай бұрын

me when vain when ohhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

@literallyelectro4327 5 ай бұрын

the meatriding is crazy

@ShadowZano 5 ай бұрын

@@literallyelectro4327 he got me feeling some typa way

@dojomojo9814 5 ай бұрын

Flamethrower is not only annoying for lights but also for mediums if ur in a building like Monaco you will lose that battle evrrytime unless u hit all your headshots. Heavy is broken and needs to be nerfed

@Fingle 5 ай бұрын

nahhhhh dude. Heavy is fine. light just needs a couple buffs to make it more viable in ranked. Honestly sword light as it is is super strong. Lewis gun is really the only reason heavy is so strong. nerf that and he's a lot more balanced

@benjaminblackford3495 5 ай бұрын

I don't understand why the heavy lmgs deal more damage than medium ars. A big reason why people opted for the pre nerf fcar was because it was the only weapon (besides the model shotty) that dealt more damage than heavy lmgs. Now that it's nerfed to the ground, why would you pick mediums or heavies when they deal more damage at range, have a larger ammo count, larger health pool, an rpg that one shots lights and chunks most other charecters, and some of the best specilizations and team util in the game (other than medium movement and healing beam)?

@nbh.knight 5 ай бұрын

I understand the issues with heavy and everything in the video, but you have to admit the sword tech is pretty OP and should be bugfixed

@Fingle 5 ай бұрын

I think they have to remove gadget canceling too now that it can multi hit

@ShadowZano 5 ай бұрын

OSCAR THE NYAKKUH

@JakeySurani 5 ай бұрын

Light sword needs nerf to op.

@yourfbiagent9011 5 ай бұрын

swords die all the time when enemies are not isolating 1v1s and mines are everywhere, it doesn't need a nerf, not again

@JakeySurani 5 ай бұрын

@yourfbiagent9011 ur clearly a bronze 4 bot that knows nothing about balancing a game. Every high elo game there is a sword player in a team. Just like charge on heavy both will be nerfed into ground for s3.

@yourfbiagent9011 5 ай бұрын

I'm literally plat 2, gtfo and firstly, if you dont want to die from swords just stick with your damn team and use your fuckin gadgets, explosivs mines exist, flamehtrower exists, rpg literally one shots their asses, they just need to fix the emote cancel exploit and now you have no problem of a ridiculous damage in a whim, you probably cant aim that's why you keep dying to them

@JakeySurani 5 ай бұрын

@yourfbiagent9011 bro hasn't hit diamond and s3 starts next week.🤣🤣🤣

@yourfbiagent9011 5 ай бұрын

I hit dia since closed beta, I just rarely played this season since I don't like the current meta, if you can't fucking agree with me, just shut up and close the argument

@jaym4697 5 ай бұрын

Nerf the sword and patch the cancels. Make it harder for him. We need more videos like this.

@walp8408 5 ай бұрын

If oscar really watched you he would know he deserve to be locked up for life

@primozeroyt 5 ай бұрын

I can understand how heavy can seem op as a light player, but are they not in a sense your natural counter? Lights are low health high DPS characters so you can still absolutely slaughter Mediums and Heavy's. Also, Embark has reason to place temporary bans for people exploiting (respectfully), however they absolutely should not be perma bans. That's genuinely too much.

@Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 ай бұрын

Using a tech is not / should not be considered exploiting. For months it wasnt considered to be. That would be like banning people for using the barrel zipline tech, or goovement. Especially without any warning or notice. Embark didnt tell anybody about it, didnt warn anyone, they just banned people. The funny part is that gadget swap is still a thing, and is even something that the devs had made patches around balancing it for gameplay, and gadget swap literally has the same effect as emote cancel, its just slightly harder and clunkier to pull off.

@mr_waffle_city8548 5 ай бұрын

I want light to get a stim gun. 2 chargers, each charge boost movement speed and quicker health regen. Maybe a 25-75 hp boost too

@akekus 5 ай бұрын

Mines one shooting light on staircases or placed in Door frames destroy fun of mooving around with light. After mine explodes light should have at least half of hp. Also ther's no counter to RPG that just one shot lite. And as my king vain said Grenade launcher and flametrhower are busted and dont require skill. Devs need to make changes to make more open fights with guns more casual. I have 300h in finals main sword. And this game have so much potential. But if they dont NERF heafy and medium in near future i'l just quit. I Hope season 3 will bring good stuff.

@danielg5784 5 ай бұрын

Every single thing you said is exactly what we need, heavy ruined the game cause is to powerful, i am a m medium and i got sick of getting killed but rpg, by flamethrower, and charge, when I can’t do anything can t shoot can’t run i m just like that dead…

@carlosalbertoalvarezvelasc3029 5 ай бұрын

As a sword player as well, my problem are not the heavies, I can kill them easily, my problem are the fucking, annoying and game breaking snipers. Add a bullet drop or something to that shit

@getinthevan9958 5 ай бұрын

"Emote cancelling is JUST a sword tech" double DPS it should be banned. Light as a whole will probably be getting a large buff in season 3, hear me out. Embark has confirmed there will be a larger marketing push for season 3, which is awesome. But with that they will want those new players to have as much fun as possible. They will play lights, so it will be in embark's interest to therefore buff it. I believe with these nerfs they are testing the light class, along with the throwing knives buff. I will say they have to stop 'testing' with light's balance changes and start making meaningful changes that show us the general direction they want it to go in. 175 health would fix a lot. Heavy having 325 as well would also fix a lot

@nooksta-785 5 ай бұрын

it doesnt double dps at all, its only .2s faster than the fastest intended combo. besides, they already pretty much patched out emote cancel this patch, nobody cares about that. what people care about is the fact that they banned people all of a sudden with no statements saying "you can't emote cancel anymore or else you're gonna get banned" when nobody was getting banned back in s1

@Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 ай бұрын

People like you calling for emote cancel to be bannable without even knowing what it does is so crazy. It doesnt double DPS. It doesnt double TTK. It doesnt one shot heavies or mediums. It increases TTK by .14 sec. Yes, zero point one four seconds, one tenth of a second, 140 milliseconds from the already over second long it took before. Do you know what FCAR TTK on light is? About half a second. It was more about movement than TTK. If you had ever played sword you would know this.

@Dumbellofdoom 5 ай бұрын

Indian finally posted

@PhrooberCZ 5 ай бұрын

Light - no team utility

@Fixer48 5 ай бұрын

Nerf heavys but buff the destruction they do to structures because after all its their job to destroy the map

@csm667 5 ай бұрын

totally understand that heavies are way too strong still, but approving of exploits disguised as "tech" is just a big no my dude. the name itself, "emote cancelling" / "gadget swapping".... just not really the same as "bunny hopping", is it?

@Sarcasmos-ft7gz 5 ай бұрын

Whats the difference between an exploit and a tech in your book? Where is the line drawn? Is bhopping an exploit because it lets you move faster than you are intended to? Is Yasuos airblade an exploit? Should they all be bannable? If not, why is bunny hopping not an exploit? Why is emote cancel an exploit?

@carrotjuice.6839 5 ай бұрын

i agree with everything but the explosive nerfs. both grenade launchers would become absolute dogshit if they nerfed them. theyre only annoying to you because youre running light, which a grenade launcher can 2 shot (i think). if anything they should tune them (6 ammo, less damage) heavy launcher is fine as is. mines are also not op, ur just playing sword light and mines deal 140. if theyd nerf it its be like 130 instead but id doubt it. also your playing with dash, maybe just, idk dash out of the way of charge n slam LMAO

@s4leagueworldbestlucker346 5 ай бұрын

G dont worry everything gonna be fine u the best

@jsniffiles 5 ай бұрын

I miss the days in early season 1 when the weapons did excellent damage and had awesome range and recoil that was actually controllable because the game was so fast and it was about positioning but now everybody bomb rushes each other and they have no strategy behind anything anymore. I miss the days in early season 1 when I had intense gun fights on top of Monaco's rooftops, it was about aim and strategy not who could out ape each other like how it is now, because the weapons are so weak and the range is so weak, and the guns that are good have awful recoil now, the only way to do any type of damage is to be really close to your opponents it's so repetitive putting entire magazines into opponents to kill them. 99% of the time I can see the opponents but it doesn't make sense to shoot them because I'm literally tickling them it's unbearable! of course nukes were a big problem in early s1 but I prefer s1 gameplay then this s2 boring and repetitive ass shit.

@Sznchester 5 ай бұрын

Bro emotes in game AND irl

@tempestios8297 5 ай бұрын

haha you said eidorian coping,see who's coping rn 😂😂

@Howmakechicken 5 ай бұрын

I’m a heavy main and bruh I am good but if there no other other heavy’s I can drop 20 without it swear it’s to op bro this is coming from a heavy main 😂😂😂

@boomer8066 5 ай бұрын

you emote cancel your exploting

@xerathion 5 ай бұрын

your incorrect use of "your" is a far more heinous crime.

@-Halil 5 ай бұрын

bbc channel 😢

@Lofuuzi 5 ай бұрын

just waiting cod my man, no need to be sad for this awful devs team

@crspybtw 5 ай бұрын

so they ban people for emote cancels, but don't ban all these cheaters?? I was curious why I get cheated on so much in plat/dia. So to test this, I created a second account and cheated straight up for 3 days without the account getting banned till that day. Never touched the game ever again since then.

@livarpool7724 5 ай бұрын

cope

@rezlerr_ 5 ай бұрын

remember when the lights had a shot gun that 2 taps med then they nerfed it to the ground? but then med have one thats way better and has more range dmg and ammo. yea me either

@ShadowZano 5 ай бұрын

BBC

@hendabuseada233 5 ай бұрын

bro all of what u said is dumb the heavy and mid are balanced the light isnt about charging at the enemy plus the nerfs to the light werent on the sword and these things needed it and iam a sword main like u btw but dont use any of those ez life tecs

@rezlerr_ 5 ай бұрын

gotta be bait

@skullgamz3552 5 ай бұрын

Personally im fine with emote cancel being gone cause they gave all melee pearce

@skullgamz3552 5 ай бұрын

I cant spell

@skyehigh2527 5 ай бұрын

L take

@sirdredd722 5 ай бұрын

The most ridiculous take I've ever seen on the finals😂😂😂 a cloaked sword using emote cancelling player complaining about heavy😂 HEAVY does NOT Need nerf. Devs DO play game daily. Heavy has no infinite AOE. The RPG is useless for anything but a direct hit. The AOE will half health enemy & kill you Everytime if fired indoors. The flame thrower has no range, both other classes can outrun heavy while walking backwards. That means, you stay out of range while running backwards & kill the heavy flamethrower every time. Nade launcher has a ridiculous bounce making it very inaccurate. & Your emote cancel is not a "tech" it is an exploit. Saying things like flamethrower takes no skill.... 😂😂😂😂 If that was the case, why aren't all the diamonds only using the flamethrower? On the heavy who has "infinite AOE & infinite health"???? Maybe stop exploiting your way up the ranks & try actually playing as a heavy main cus you clearly have no idea what it's like. Heavy is the slowest, glitch cancels all his shields, flamethrower has no range & RpG has been nerfed into the ground to the point that a sword does more damage. Stop crying about other classes, stop exploiting and play the game with an open mind by putting yourself in the shoes of others.