Eh, saying Superman is vulnerable to something is kinda ironic at this point. Dude has tanked the strongest magic and powered through Krptonite. Shoot, they even took all the stars away from him and he still won.
@emeyer23239 ай бұрын
Hahaha , brilliant. Great comment 👊🏻 wasn’t that strange visitor that lived longer than anything
@jmgonzales77019 ай бұрын
Yeah i agree, he is vulnerable but when people think he is against magic its an automatic stomp when in fact he faces a lot of goons who are juiced to the gills with magic.
@emeyer23239 ай бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701 Lol juiced to the gills 😂
@Omegeddon9 ай бұрын
He's not weak to magic he's just vulnerable to it. People act like an enchanted pencil is going to kill him just because "its magic" thats not how it works
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
@@Omegeddon they verbatim say "magic is his weakness" in action comics 1061. That is verbatim.
@MrLourie9 ай бұрын
I have to happily agree with you. Superman has defeated the strongest of magic, he was sometimes the last one standing and unaffected by magic while everyone else around succumbed. And I believe the reason why he's vulnerable to magic is because of his dislike of it which then he allows it to psychologically affect him. You can't really say magic is a weakness of his because he can be powered by it, and even wield it. It's all in his head. Now I think I'll get a cookie.
@SonicBRmario9 ай бұрын
Isn't Superman the descendant of the Kryptonian Sun God, or something like that? If so, he has some roots to magic, no?
@extrakt15598 ай бұрын
@@SonicBRmariothe house of El which is superman bloodline is the descendants of the sun god Rao yes but all his powers seem to be natural for the most oart
@SonicBRmario8 ай бұрын
@extrakt1559 I see. So in DC, gods aren't intrisically magical in nature. Got it.
@Clurge07-qna4 ай бұрын
Also the reason might be of his biggest plot armour his plot armour literally bigger than Batman LoL, But I Respect Dr Goon Opinion.
@holylaci75394 ай бұрын
@@Clurge07-qnamate Batman has the biggest plot armor in comics it is not even close i mean dude has no super powers yet he beats beings with super powers, pls explainsl that to me, every super hero has plot armor but that is bcus most of them have powers but what is Batman's super power ??
@GenevaCircle9 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if writers ever seek to actively make their characters stronger than other specific characters in fiction -- it'd be interesting to ask Al Ewing " What feat would you give Thor to make him definitively stronger than current Superman?"
@jirkavrana77899 ай бұрын
Defeat TOAA
@Prominent_intellect4 ай бұрын
Well that's not longer required becz Ewing did it by himself before even asking by keeping superman in mind Not thor has even greater feats than superman now he'll easily one taps comp and curt superman in no diff
@JakeRider-wc6ke9 ай бұрын
Look at the end of the day Superman is literally HOPE on multiple layers. He's to Damn Strong
@Kingdom2098Yt9 ай бұрын
not strong enough
@angelgarcia46418 ай бұрын
@@Kingdom2098Ytwdym???
@sonofkrypton99124 ай бұрын
@@angelgarcia4641 He clearly is delusional Leave him be 😆
@Lumina-sd1en18 күн бұрын
Saying Superman looses because of magic is like saying Batman's looses to guns😂
@MrJeffreyrichards9 ай бұрын
I have been torn on this as well Thor with the magic I had him above now we see superman all but negging the highest magic from DC that was asorbed from Zerox the planet of sorrcores and the enxus of all magic I was like how are you not done. I think he took like 3 or 4 full on hits as well as pushing though the storm that ripped bizzaro to pieces. Massive change on the pendulum.
@TheChicken-nt2rs9 ай бұрын
The only agreed thing about this is they are both way more op than ever
@sorin-35109 ай бұрын
Yeah. I also think Superman would win. 1. As you said, Superman could handle anything Thor has, including magic. 2. While both of them could absorb energy to become more powerful, it seems like Clark is better at doing it, and his power increases to a higher level than Thor's. Thor had the Odin/Thor Force and still had to absorb all of Galactus' power to take down Black Winter. On the other hand, a dying Superman just spent a little time flying through a few suns and absorbing energy from them, and he became so powerful that he knocked down World Forger and destroyed his multiverse with a single punch. I think it's safe to assume that Black Winter and World Forger are more or less equal. So, before absorbing that energy, Clark was way weaker than Thor was; he absorbed less energy than Thor, and he was still able to perform a comparable feat to that of Thor. 3. At the end of Immortal Thor #3, in that Q&A (or whatever it's called), Al Ewing answered to a fan, "Loki's definitely up to something, Benny, as we've seen these last couple of issues-but does it relate to Udgard, and if so, how?" Now, it doesn’t exactly say that this story is basically Loki f***ing with everybody, but it's a possibility.
@jsmaelsartor5959 ай бұрын
Black winter was a character able to travel from marvel to dc comics and eated a dc universe for what we have seen, he's like anti monitor but more powerful, also superman needs to go inside of a lot of stars to take a huge amount of energy while thor simply absorbed the galactus' cosmic energy in no time, superman can potentially just absorb all the energy from the superman's body using the mjolnir during the fight and destroy superman with easy
@sorin-35109 ай бұрын
@@jsmaelsartor595 Black Winter never traveled to DC, there's no DC story that says that DC was destroyed by Black Winter. He destroyed a universe similar to DC, wich is not the same thing. I don't know what makes you think that Black Winter is more powerful than Anti-Monitor since both of them were able to eat universes. And saying that Galactus is weaker than a few yellow stars is just laughable. 😂😂
@Dr.Osterman9 ай бұрын
@@jsmaelsartor595 eaten a DC universe, Stronger than Anti Monitor LMAO
@maylabrown45849 ай бұрын
@@sorin-3510 The Black Winter was actually crossing into the DC Universe, people don't remember it but before the Pandemic there was a planned massive Modern Crossover between the Marvel Universe and DC Universe. The Black Winter was going to become the thing that caused the Omniversal barriers between Marvel and DC to break down, similar to what the Anti-Monitor did in Crisis on Infinite Earths. But again, the Pandemic occurred and this idea was scrapped, the events that would take place however are stated to be a big threat to even Superman as it necessitated The Hulk dying in battle to save him and Superman himself fighting Thor in a 1v1 confrontation due to the aftermath of their Cosmologies clashing. This is directly stated to have happened already by Doctor Manhattan, or to have happened for him as he can see all of time at every point, Thor is nowhere near a small threat for Superman.
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
ADE YOU SERIOUS?? Thor literally Eaisly Absorbed the ENTIRE Power Cosmic which is a multi to Omniversal source of power Thor is far better at absorbing then clark
@akelaswrath97919 ай бұрын
If I’m being honest, that quote of Thor never going all out against Hulk is the most dumbfounded statement I’ve come across, especially considering they put that statement in a Hulk run. I call hogwash on it.
@Omegeddon9 ай бұрын
Also Hulk never went all out on Thor either so it was a meaningless statement
@Mannyhdz00529 ай бұрын
@Omegeddon Thor once stalemated a mindless hulk who wasn't being held back by banner.
@Mannyhdz00529 ай бұрын
@JayTheOne616 Thor also fought and stalemated Mindless Hulk, who wasn't being held back by Bruce so what's your point?
@calebwilliams7909 ай бұрын
It's consistent in comics that when thor decides the hulk has to go down he goes down. Except his Jason Aaron run.
@dacariwhitehead79719 ай бұрын
@@calebwilliams790hulk holds back when fighting thor
@autobotfan119 ай бұрын
Superman is just that guy
@richardpage58129 ай бұрын
But Superman is vulnerable to magic.🤨
@mel-el58629 ай бұрын
@@richardpage5812 not enough to take him down. Thor is vulnerable to getting punched in the face.
@Axlrazer9 ай бұрын
@@richardpage5812superman is no longer vulnerable to magic 🍷🗿
@NegrondaGwimReapa9 ай бұрын
@@richardpage5812No, not anymore. Action Comics 1061 which is very recent... He literally tanked punches infused magic from Bizarro, the same magic which was stated to be the "most powerful magic in DC" it's Gem World magic; a place within the Sphere of Gods, Sphere of Gods is an Outversal realm.
@770peti9 ай бұрын
@@mel-el5862If Godzilla beat Superman to death then i can't see how Thor can't do the same...
@damianstarks33389 ай бұрын
Nice new Superman vs Thor video
@jumplegacy56049 ай бұрын
While I don't agree that superman weak to magic because he's vulnerable to it by that logic any character who's even hurt or vulnerable to anything is a weakness Thor has been cut by wolverine claws is admantium now thors weakness because he's vulnerable to it and can be harmed by it no he's not magic simply bypass a kryptonian invulnerability which they don't even have fr as invulnerabie means you can't he hurt at all you shouldn't but that's my take on the hole magic thing but I could be wrong
@beepboop48339 ай бұрын
Yeah it depends on what you define with the word 'weakness'. Magic isn't a weakness of Superman more than any other character (unless they are magic users). But it is technically a weakness or vulnerability compared to his other attributes.
@TheAndreadellaluna9 ай бұрын
i dpm't see any weakness to magic in Batman portfolio or wonder woman or any green lantern. It is just authors can't do math and don't know synonymous.
@jumplegacy56049 ай бұрын
@@beepboop4833 ok but by that logic than many other characters should be weak to magic including Thor as magic has harmed Thor before in fact I can name a number of characters who have been harmed by magic so if your gonna use that then Thor should also be weak to it because he's vulnerable to magic he's been hurt by magic from his bother Loki many times so no I don't really see magic as a weakness of kryptonians it's not like kryptonite but I do see your point as well
@jumplegacy56049 ай бұрын
@@beepboop4833 exactly yet they have all been harmed by magic before so to say superman weak to magic and not them kinda ain't right I'm pretty sure everyone in the justice league has fought magical being and have all been harmed by them so I don't see magic as a weakness for any of them
@kawakiuzumaki59349 ай бұрын
Traditionally kryptonians are invulnerable to blunt/physical force under a yellow sun(supposed to be atleast) and magic is supposed to be an exploit to this invulnerability because it can actually do harm if it’s strong enough. Idk why people think magic is like kryptonite though where superman would be depowered just by having to deal with it.
@maylabrown45849 ай бұрын
Hot Take: This is a complete stalemate, going all out, neither of them are beating the other without the other surviving the battle.
@rishavrai999999 ай бұрын
Narrative control from rune magic is not enough
@maylabrown45849 ай бұрын
@@rishavrai99999 ...Uh okay? That's not the reason why I say this would be a stalemate, it's overall what the both of them represent for their respective Verses. There's no outcome where one of them survives the other if both go all out.
@Prospectone9 ай бұрын
@@maylabrown4584dc cosmology >Marvel idk why ppl overlook this. Maybe just to make the battle closer than it really is. Especially when Marvel is the only other cosmology that comes close to DC
@maylabrown45849 ай бұрын
@@Prospectone Uh no? Marvel and DC have had equally strong Cosmologies for decades by this point, as proven in their Crossover all those years ago. Both Cosmologies have gotten stronger over time simultaneously, but both at their zenith are dead-even with one another.
@Mayan_886949 ай бұрын
@@Prospectoneno, they have equal cosmologies
@christopherbyrdakaSuperman9 ай бұрын
I don't know, these two at absolute full power would destroy both DC and Marvel multiverse, this one would even retcon the Omegas, the Ivory Kings and enigma and Beyonder races, this fight should be sanctioned in a empty void outside all time, space and matter! This way all that energy can create more worlds from these two extracting all that power!
@Yoeary458 ай бұрын
Thor already can destroy most of the marvel cosmology with just rune magic and now Thor transcends that. And Superman survived the most powerful magic💀💀💀 they can be around the presence and the one above all level of you ask me
@Wonderwomanfan299125 ай бұрын
No it wouldn’t it wouldn’t do shit but break some buildings when do you ever see two high tiers destroy everything that is during a fight
@Assemble089 ай бұрын
I think Thor destroyed a replica of 8 Cosmos, in the current Avengers comic.
@DiggyYu-np6ff9 ай бұрын
@@kyleking8833 don't worry about it opm washes them
@nicksonleslie73665 ай бұрын
@oluwadamilola6233 😂😂😂
@TheGamingCreed3 ай бұрын
@@oluwadamilola6233 The biggest yap I've heard 😂
@TegaOruma2 ай бұрын
@@oluwadamilola6233and superman destroyed the 6th dimension which houses being so powerful 5th dimensional beings like Mr myk- who held the multiverse in his hands and cancelled a real life show- say they cannot even perceive
@Cosmic-HellАй бұрын
@@TegaOruma He didn’t destroy the sixth dimension, he destroyed the world forger’s multiverse, but yeah.
@Comicfanfacts20249 ай бұрын
I think Thor should take it high difficulty overall 50/50 on both sides both are immense powerhouses & could get a win on each other tbh but Superman I can understand capable of winning aswell
@FrancisL4D9 ай бұрын
Superman is just built different🗿
@far0oky0u259 ай бұрын
This is why I love this channel.
@ritzkola23029 ай бұрын
Current Thor. He’s only gotten even more capable since Aaron’s God Butcher arc. Now he’s fighting a primordial God, a version of himself and hurting it.
@ZackSNetwork8 ай бұрын
Nope
@ritzkola23028 ай бұрын
@@ZackSNetwork yup
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
@@ZackSNetworkyep indeed
@Luka-pv2dt9 ай бұрын
superman is incorruptible, the hope will always prevail in the end
@danielkwamedanso-owusu35053 ай бұрын
Supes also scales relative to Thor: high outer layers to boundless layers into extraversal+ to levels into it aka (high 1a to tier0 to 1s)
@michaelgarcia56809 ай бұрын
I think Superman wins high difficulty.
@assainscreed12349 ай бұрын
Min
@nottog31199 ай бұрын
What's your opinion on Toji vs Kraven?
@kylecollins37559 ай бұрын
Damnit! I was about to go to bed. Superman has this high dif, but consistently wins.
@zachariaravenheart9 ай бұрын
I don't know why it took me so long to realize this, but that jingle in the beginning was the opening for Tokyo Ghoul, Unravel, wasn't it?
@ENGTech8679 ай бұрын
Thank you for the hard work when you deliver this content for us - much appreciated! This battle would be beyond crazy, and it's fair to say that it could go either way. Current Thor and Superman are powerful af - their feats are absurdly insane and their conceptual narrative symbolism transcends almost anything within their cosmologies. So, who carries more weight within their cosmology? If I had to choose, I would probably give it to Superman, but he will need every drop of his Detective Comics "HOPE" to take that W (maybe a quick dip too).
@deepakraj-o3v8 ай бұрын
nothing works against thor thor no diffs superman thor feats are greater because marvel cosmology >>> dc cosmology
@ENGTech8678 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3vMy apologies for this….. Hell yeah!!!! I agree with you 100000% Marvel is infinitely larger than DC just like the earth is flat and gravity is not there! Wait I got a better one - Spiderman can defecate on TOAA and create infinite multiverse(s) while he is fighting TOAA! You see how one can make ridiculous claims - I truly don’t mean to insult your intelligence so if you want to defend your statement(s), please enlighten me and elaborate on your objective perspective on this cosmology topic.
@ENGTech8678 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3v My apologies for this….. Hell yeah!!!! I agree with you 100000% Marvel is infinitely larger than DC just like the earth is flat and gravity is not there! Wait I got a better one - Spiderman can defecate on TOAA and create infinite multiverse(s) while he is fighting TOAA! You see how one can make ridiculous claims - I truly don’t mean to insult your intelligence so if you want to defend your statement(s), please enlighten me and elaborate on your objective perspective on this cosmology topic.
@ENGTech8677 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3v Yeah sure. You are 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% K OR-r E cT.
@dsm24179 ай бұрын
I have thor. Similar scaling, feats and on top of that a variety of haxes and abilities as well as powers such as rune magic, phoenix, friggs power, odin/thor force, and finally cosmic power. All of these are literal fundamental forces of the marvel multiverse and entities, thor has fought people with the same characteristics as superman. He can even absorb his sun attacks and eye beams and even his life force even blasting him with 1000x more power. He also has warrior madness a 10x boost and he has the god blast which can destroy immortal and conceptual gods of high outerversal such as Black winter, galactus, etc. He even fought Hulk who currently can destroy entities more powerful then The one below all. Thor definitely has this specially with the fact that he as well represents hope in marvel.
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Starship hulk not ticklin current hulk relax on that lol
@amogus14159 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplashIsn't current hulk getting bullied by thanos and relative to she hulk and random ghost riders?
@wallsterrence9 ай бұрын
@@amogus1415 thanos has always bodied marvel heavy hitters
@amogus14159 ай бұрын
@@wallsterrence Starship hulk scales to celestials.Thanos doesn't,based on feats he's like odin level and below galactus.Based on statements he's also below galactus and the entire eternal race worships the celestials as gods,even uranos who thanos respects. I'd give it like low diff to starship hulk.
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch9 ай бұрын
@@amogus1415thanos should bé normally galactus level as hé beat him multples Time the samme way hé l'ost to him Galactus is also stronger than celestial and dépend oden is also stronger than somme celestials
@stevenalvarez29249 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, Jobbers, but it's in Thors blood to job. Give half a year and maybe Nick Fury will fold Thor using just martial arts.
@mel-el58629 ай бұрын
Wolverine bout to jump in this match and give thor his L. 😂
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch9 ай бұрын
Hes gonna get thanos sweep like hulk
@dukeheavens99909 ай бұрын
I always notice the one punch man instrumental piano theme, in the background
@Dr.Osterman9 ай бұрын
I like to think that Speed also plays a huge factor here Like what u said in the last Superman vs Thor Video, Superman just Blitzes
@sgc5919 ай бұрын
Both are High Outerversal, Immeasurable-Irrelevant speed. Imo I got Clark (mid to high diff)
@eyes_in9 ай бұрын
Superman isn’t anywhere near outer, he’s like 6D with wank 😂
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r9 ай бұрын
Fact can't wait for your take on them
@JustSomeGuy4409 ай бұрын
@@eyes_inGross
@assainscreed12349 ай бұрын
Thor isn't outerversal.
@JustSomeGuy4409 ай бұрын
@@assainscreed1234 He literally comes from a realm beyond time & space, and has stated his divinity transcends dimensions…….How tf is that not outer That was him when he was canonically weaker too
@TechNinjaSigma9 ай бұрын
Ladies and Gentlemen, Goons and Jobbers! We are about to witness the most anticipated match! LLLET'S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLE!!!
@youngcactusjack9 ай бұрын
W reupload and yeah this battle would be a way better death battle than going against anime since both of these guys is high outer and this should supes hate can’t wait to see how much more broken both characters get
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch9 ай бұрын
I can see thor wining when he unlock hes full potintiell
@youngcactusjack9 ай бұрын
You could also say the same thing for Superman we’ve barely scratched the surface of his power/potential could you imagine if Superman wanted to become stronger or powerful and decided to explore his possibilities/capabilities and absorption he would to powerful to put in vsbattles or death battles 😂💀
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch9 ай бұрын
@@youngcactusjackthe thing is for superman It canon that hé can reach all hes full potintiell if hé need to cause the embodiment of " justice in the américain way " like WE sée agnaist Neron and World forger and bizzaro Thor still cant Also vsbattle will just lowball both like it do to everyone
@l0sts0ul899 ай бұрын
12:13 I think thats the perfect saying for Superman, hes dealt with it before and will beat it just like before.
@erikbrown26829 ай бұрын
Spot on as always and really how it has to be
@TCG19794 ай бұрын
A vulnerability and weak to magic are different and magic has never made Superman weak. It’s always hurt him but never weakened him.
@KierenAnderson-jo6ki9 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on sentry vs Superman villains such as doomsday, Mongul, The general, and Darkseid.
@animestand9 ай бұрын
I think Superman takes this a bit more comfortably. Thor has crazy scaling but I don't think he scales massively above certain things unlike Superman just blatantly shrugging off shit. Thor beat Knull because of weaknesses he could exploit. He doesn't scale massively above Loki or the elder gods and you could argue doesn't, at least not yet. And now Superman bodied magic from the origin of magic. I remember Bizarro being hit with the strongest magic which he absorbed and went to throw hands with a Superman who held back. I think it is a lot more comfortable than it is.
@jmgonzales77019 ай бұрын
what i just dont like about superman is he is very inconsistent. dude can tank hits from Gods and abstracts but sometimes would struggle to lift a not so heavy thing or get beaten by street tier goons.
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r9 ай бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701u do know super man hold back alot and he has mental block to suppress himself that why sometimes he has inconsistent
@DiggyYu-np6ff9 ай бұрын
opm victims
@zwart.9 ай бұрын
Dude he gets hurt by beings like starro @user-lu6yz7rq3j
@Yoeary458 ай бұрын
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7rThor has better feats and crazier hats then Superman
@VV_DOOM5049 ай бұрын
Superman in comics is unusually strong.
@LughSamildanach9 ай бұрын
Good stuff.
@stevecavalle9 ай бұрын
Trolls : but can they beat Hulk, Flash and Goku tough Jobers and Goons : ...😑
@superbowsersilva9 ай бұрын
Request-can you do a power scale video on Mario because many people in the sonic community keep downplaying him and acting like he’s just a normal human where in reality he actually has some good feats.
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Id do it if sponsored
@jellyguy449 ай бұрын
I noticed Doomslayer vs Kratos is resurfacing. Can you please do one as well?
@joshuagetty78419 ай бұрын
Current Thor is outerversal he takes this you got to do cosmic armor supes vs thors strongest version
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r9 ай бұрын
Current super man to is outerversal as well
@kawakiuzumaki59349 ай бұрын
Base supes already power creeped CAS. It would make no difference
@SgtKnievel9 ай бұрын
Superman wins. He is overly protected by the DC staff to always exist and win. Thor doesnt have that type of protection from Marvel. Besides God like the Presence or TOAA the next level of beings that can defeat Superman would have to be Lucifer level. By the way awesome job in trying to get Al Ewing to show up! Would love to hear his explanation on the Beyonder "escaping the comic" finale from Defenders Beyond.
@770peti9 ай бұрын
It's huge wank. He not protected by the DC staff, actually he disrespected by the writers. Currently even Godzilla mops the floor with Superman, so he being comparable to Lucifer level characters is nonsense.
@rupeniugavule34799 ай бұрын
@@770petiThat comic is non-canon btw.
@770peti9 ай бұрын
@@rupeniugavule3479 The writer stated this Superman as powerful as the Prime Earth Superman. Then this means even if it's not canon event to the main continuity, but if it's happening in the canon then Godzilla clap that Superman too.
@user-lp8im7ow8s9 ай бұрын
@@770petiThe writer NEVER stated that , I don't know where you got that or if your just lying , the version of Godzilla even used here isn't Canon to mV . I really don't see how Thor wins. Hell Superman wasn't even trying to kill Godzilla , he was just distracting it.
@770peti9 ай бұрын
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Dude, you're lying here! Unfortunately i can't upload image here, but Brian Buccellato explicitly stated that this Superman as powerful as the Prime Earth Superman. If you want i show the scan, we can discuss this on Discord. Don't seeing Thor winning here is your problem, i'm actually read both DC and Marvel and i know both of them can give each other a challenge and this battle could go either way. But after this crossover Superman can't do much against current Thor. Lol
@LeandroCaioBorges3 күн бұрын
9:08 Says he never fights not holding back against is a lie He fights warrior madness against professor Hulk (and was overpowered) Against onslaught did nothing, And admits he can’t defeat Hulk ( when hulk take that hammer)
@BARDOCK5509 ай бұрын
Narratively Superman wins everytime 100% the story of Superman is above the writers at this point. On a non narrative fight Thor has a chance if its high versions of Thor like Rune King going against base Superman.
@maylabrown45849 ай бұрын
That Narrative only works within the DC Verse, not in relation to other Verses let alone one with an equally as strong Cosmology like Marvel.
@polketex50439 ай бұрын
Narratives and Multiversal Concepts is only a DC thing. If Marvel played with that Thor would be Hope and many more things or Hulk would be Strength or Strongest One There Is and would literally never lose to any being.
@dsm24179 ай бұрын
@@polketex5043 Hulk is literally the Wrath of god
@Ben-fk4bs9 ай бұрын
The narratives are the same about DC Comics as a whole and a part of him meaning every scaling there is in DC, Superman has access to, since Superman basically is DC. ,@@polketex5043
@cartersauce57499 ай бұрын
@@polketex5043still Superman does win 95% of dc are beyond narratives.
@DT256599 ай бұрын
It’s a stalemate
@Wonderwomanfan299125 ай бұрын
Superman stomps
@TheGamingCreed3 ай бұрын
Superman wins
@alexrobinet75769 ай бұрын
Oh shit! the UPSET!
@ItsJustZayne9 ай бұрын
At this point, why even say he’s vulnerable to magic if the most powerful magic users can’t bring him down? It would be like saying the symbiotes in marvel are vulnerable to fire but then repeatedly showcase how no amount of fire can bring them down. It’s like, why even bring it up then if there’s no scenario where it would actually matter? If he can hope his way through then it’s dumb to even bring it up as a potential weakness or vulnerability.
@davidshirley46969 ай бұрын
His will power?????? Ummmm yea I’m not going with that. This is a stat for stat type of battle and Thor takes it. And we definitely don’t share the same perception when it comes to who has the most will power lol. You were better off saying it’s up to the writer that day. It’s like you said Thor has every advantage but something as common as will power will be the deciding factor. 😂
@danielkwamedanso-owusu35053 ай бұрын
Thor scales from high 1a to boundless to extraversal + to levels
@bombaybabi79017 ай бұрын
There's a difference between vulnerability and a weakness. Magic isn't a instant win against Superman and he's actually shrugged off magic a number of times.
@davidogundipe8089 ай бұрын
Supes is just too hot currently.
@Ishigami969 ай бұрын
I think supes just wins there pretty relative but its just in character for supes to fly closer to the sun if hes trying to take you down 💀🙏
@zeusproductions83829 ай бұрын
In this case Both superman and Thor are good. So superman doesn't win Just because hero should win.. When we exclude that Narrative Thor can easily beat superman
@mrh4nma9 ай бұрын
Fax, Superman wins.
@jeremymorris3459 ай бұрын
This is still tricky for me because I can totally see either pulling out the victory and I wouldn't be mad. Both are High Outerversal, Immeasurable-Irrelevant Speed, BFR not a problem, has lots of combat experience, both are inconsistent in comic's were they aren't the main lead (had to add that one for the memes) Superman can tank pretty much all of DC's magic, meanwhile Thor can handle God of Stories Loki. I remember you did a video a while back about Marvel magic probably being stronger then DC magic. If that is the case Thor can probably hurt Superman with it. But Superman also has that Metaverse narrative that will bring him back but Thor can now cut and manipulate narratives. Can he do it to Superman - gonna have to wait for this run to finish to tell fully. However, Superman has dealt with narrative manipulators before so maybe it doesn't matter. It's so close but if I had to give an answer I'd say Superman right now because I feel like he would be the one to somehow come back first if they both died from the fight.
@emeyer23239 ай бұрын
Love this response, couldn’t have said it better. One of the best responses I’ve seen on any video or social media.
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r9 ай бұрын
@@emeyer2323exactly I don't care who wins has far as people acknowledge both of them being high outerversal
@ssjsonic38394 ай бұрын
When Thor manipulate narratives?
@jeremymorris3454 ай бұрын
@@ssjsonic3839 God of Stories Loki trapped Thor. Thor was forced to make an axe that could cut narratives to escape. It was in Thor's recent run.
@ssjsonic38394 ай бұрын
@@jeremymorris345 Wouldn’t dat be above Supes tho?
@windows98alpha359 ай бұрын
Probably one of the only fights Superman can have where it'd be close. I feel Superman still wins but he can't win without killing Thor.
@michaelseay20249 ай бұрын
Magic in marvel>>>magic in dc Thor wins also Thor AP stomps Thor wins
@TheGamingCreed3 ай бұрын
DC magic is stronger than Marvel magic, what
@Superman000009 ай бұрын
My boy🔥🔥
@TheCubecrafer9 ай бұрын
Can you cover the entirety of Strange academy because it finished its run ?
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
If it was sponsored
@kohlkurtzhals22539 ай бұрын
Take 2!!!!
@alltheworldsastage47859 ай бұрын
I think you're accurate.
@peccles129 ай бұрын
I think that this would be a good match and I would say they can go go about 50-50
@gm24079 ай бұрын
So they took a character who already struggles due to scaling to have a credible threat and they made him stronger.
@alkebulanawah42429 ай бұрын
If magic is a weakness to Superman then Black Adam amping him should have hurt him instead but no it made him more powerful. Superman is vulnerable to magic means he's notbimmune to it. It's not a weakness in the sense of kryptonite
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Supermans existence & will massively outweighs his weaknesses.
@takatotakasui83079 ай бұрын
Yeah Clark has some crazy feats, scaling, and statements. Gotta give it to him. Thor's narrative hax has also gotten to impressive levels. The way I see it current Thor's narrative hax can't possibly scale above the World Forger, who wasn't really giving Superman that much trouble in a fight
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
World forger isn't that impressive actually
@takatotakasui83075 ай бұрын
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester In narrative hax specifically he has to be cracked
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
@takatotakasui8307 Yeah still not all powerful so many more are more powerful in that verse
@takatotakasui83075 ай бұрын
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester Yeah, it's not like he's a top tier in DC
@danielkwamedanso-owusu35053 ай бұрын
Hax: Narrative hax ruin magic hax and energy and matter manipulation
@moonknight40539 ай бұрын
I still think hulk is comparable to thor as they are usually in the same tier, Al Ewing is a great writer. Immortal hulk is a great run
@johnsantos5079 ай бұрын
Son of Krypton/leader of Justice League vs Son of Odin/member of The Avengers.
@DiggyYu-np6ff9 ай бұрын
both one punch man victims
@Fxtricky19 ай бұрын
Superman is not a character. He is a symbol thats why he cant be rewritten or erased or dealt with in that way. He might as well be the words that are written for all the characters of DC. That might as well be his new power or the concept of what he is. He is that what is needed in light of everything in the DCU. The Superman. With that being said i honest to goodness dont see why anyone puts him against anyone anymore and havent put him against Images the Surpreme who basically is the same exact thing but in Image comics even to the point all cped hereos are just reincarnated variants of the man. Idk... just my two cents. Great breakdown vid btw.
@soulsreaper71459 ай бұрын
i dont get whats wrong with dc. like why not adapt these comic runs into movies? that follow the story of the comics realy closely... like if it sells on paper, why bother re creating the wheel when u have a perfect version of it already in front of you?
@jefferyskeenan5 ай бұрын
Here is my superboy prime take. He is not stronger than clark (he is clark) just a clark who does not hold back. this is a look at an actual superman who does not hold back. Thor has matured greatly but at the end of the day he does not have Superman's belief system of hope and although both have ridiculous fortitude, Supes is just not giving up.
@spasebar5 ай бұрын
You know what's ironic? Superman detractors will cry " he's inconsistent because he has too many versions!!" when in fact they're the one using a composite Superman to push the narrative that he's inconsistent. Canon main continuity Superman is stronger than 99% of his elseworlds variants and has been consistently a high-tier in DC cosmology and has all the feats, statements and scaling to back it up. there's literally no reason to composite him other than to try an convince people who don't know better that he's inconsistent out of some weird hate campaign.
@LeandroCaioBorges3 күн бұрын
You forgot say Thor has Thor fanboy force The Thor fanboys believe he defeats everyone kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@Grendelbc7 ай бұрын
I have no idea what DC has done with Superman these days. If we talk classic Supes against classic Thor, Supes gets the nod based solely on speed. We never saw Thor fling blows around with the speed of Flash or someone like that. If we are talking about Thor with the Odin power, that's a whole new kettle of fish. We've seen Zeus, a god with a power level roughly that of Odin, slap the Hulk around like he was nothing. So I'd expect King Thor to be far stronger than Superman. The other aspects of the Odin power should allow Thor to negate any speed advantage on Supes' part. I'm not familiar with the version of Thor you're talking about here. He seems to beyond even King Thor or Old King Thor, both of whom have defeated Galactus. Granted, old King Thor needed the Necro Sword to finish the job. This vid is the first time I ever heard anyone suggest there was a version of Thor more potent than Rune King Thor. He should be able to easily defeat any version of Supes that I've ever seen. If DC has decided to make Superman virtually all-powerful they're going to have problems with future stories. Who is he going to fight? How will he fit in with the Justice League if he is far tougher than all of them together? Marvel is going to have the same problem with King Thor.
@bawrukid87349 ай бұрын
if they fought it would be like old doomsday vs superman ..... ya superman won but it took him a few months to wake up and find out lol
@thaddeusmuetz67479 ай бұрын
I really would like to know how many of these fans have been in fights because no one seems to understand how important experience is it will overcome strength and speed and Thor is beyond an expert in combat. Just saying mabey look in to the champions of the world and you will see they aren't the strongest or fastest they are simply more skilled
@jaydee38585 ай бұрын
Honest question does "current" superman even have weaknesses? Seems like they're all gone at this point magic is clearly a non issue, kryptonite barely even exists, he can time travel, he's a one man lantern corps like....what even are his "fights"? 😅
@Prominent_intellect4 ай бұрын
Yeah there is no " fight " becz current thor one taps superfodder
@marvelousthunder89759 ай бұрын
I will go with Thor for only one reason: Thor is superman with some crazy haxes.
@akeemreese10509 ай бұрын
what if goku won against Superman on the original death battle ep? Would the power scaling community still exist and be as big as it is today?
@grandcanyon-d4d9 ай бұрын
Could Superman beat Russian wardens?
@Kingkongbongdong47169 ай бұрын
Static scaling 👀👀👀
@grudgematch66539 ай бұрын
Do you think Constantine is better at prep than Dr. Doom?
@Theblobmma9 ай бұрын
Vulnerability doesn’t mean weakness is the point people are making bro, 2 different things
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Well thank GOD the comic used the wotd weakness.
@Theblobmma9 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash the black Adam statement?
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
@@Theblobmma lmfao no. I dead ass made a video on the exact comic. Just go watch it
@Theblobmma9 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplashah my bad I’ll take the L
@beaudennis517 ай бұрын
Superman is boundless scaling off the overmonitor
@Prominent_intellect4 ай бұрын
7d fodder
@yaboiplank67649 ай бұрын
base superman > RKT?
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Yes current thor is above RKT. Current thor has the All Power & Rune Magic
@yaboiplank67649 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash shiz crazy So current Thor still stronger than current Loki?
@PYRATE318 ай бұрын
marvel cosmology is bigger than DC. Thor claps him. Sup should be compared to Captain Marvel.
@kawakiuzumaki59348 ай бұрын
Marvel is not bigger than dc
@TheGamingCreed3 ай бұрын
Most dumbest statement I have heard
@PYRATE313 ай бұрын
@@TheGamingCreed ok Mr Sense
@TheGamingCreed3 ай бұрын
@@PYRATE31 You know nothing
@PYRATE313 ай бұрын
@TheGamingCreed go write comics mr all knowing
@losojacobs51649 ай бұрын
Whn u right u right
@danielkwamedanso-owusu35053 ай бұрын
But you can argue supes takes it medium to high difficulty
@justinmarch50959 ай бұрын
Who wins between DCEU Supes and MCU Thor?
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch9 ай бұрын
Thor
@bryan61639 ай бұрын
superman
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r9 ай бұрын
Mcu Thor
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
Thor 60/40
@danielendless9 ай бұрын
I think Thor scales higher but it doesn't matter cuz Superman can pull out the x100 Sun Dip at any time and just win It's an unfair auto-win button
@RUNE_KING_THOR_68735 ай бұрын
Thor can manipulate Sunlight and he tanked hits from a weapon which has full power of Living Tribunal weapon who is above Eternity. All Creation are just sum for Eternity which makes Eternity Omniversal and Thor beyond Omniversal also Thor absorb and amp energy from opponents
@WithcherKnight13079 ай бұрын
Hey um jobbers I'm getting into reading dc comics more this year you have any suggestions for what runs to read or avoid because I mainly focus on reading justice league and justice league dark characters
@lockjaw97938 ай бұрын
I cant say thor is more powerful than peak odin because even as thor is now he still cant handle the all power and he always blacks out after using his power. He has to lose his eye like to even reach his full potential.
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester5 ай бұрын
He's already beyond Odin
@masterbeast-sz1yq2 ай бұрын
Suprman stomps thor, and this is not the first time 😂...
@yancygoon9 ай бұрын
I meaann..they not Yancy tier Thor ass definitely got some good stuff for me he lucky I was looking for that batguy instead tho 😤😤💯💯 -Yancy street goons
@BigSirSplash9 ай бұрын
Your pfp and name means alot to me
@yancygoon9 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash you put Yancy on the map everybody gonna know about Yancy street now that you've given us a voice 💯💯💯 -Yancy street goons [thanks for the videos you've gotten me into dc alot more then I used to be and they make me laugh my ass off everytime you truly deserve success on here you provide informative and funny videos about my favorite genre 💯💯👍👍😤😤] - Yancy street mayor
@blackshadexl9 ай бұрын
So Goons, how powerful are these Elder Gods compared to the top 3 strongest Celestials, Galactus on like 20 planets, Eternity, Infinity, Death and Oblivion?
@gokijin3 ай бұрын
Dan Jurgens: "My Thor vs my Superman: Thor would kill Superman, simply put, Thor has magic." And Thor has beaten bigger and badder than Superman. Thor + Thorforce + Phoenix Force and you think Superman wins that? And I was starting to like this channel too lol. Especially if you're releasing videos trying to scale current Thor to Rune King Thor...Thor washes Superman.
@Superdude-rd2gs3 ай бұрын
bro it's superman if he digs deep enough he can Beat anyone
@gokijin2 ай бұрын
@@Superdude-rd2gs Bro, it's Thor. If he wants, he's taking Superman's powers from him. The same way he did Galactus, Zeus, Apocalypse twins, Pluto, and others. Superman gets drained by everyone...so he's not resisting Thor doing it when he does it all at one time. Mjolnir can drain him too. Thor no diffs by hacks. Thor as well has infinite/immeasurable speed, strength, and stamina, as shown by several feats. Superman isn't beating Thor. Thor is that guy.
@soydegoatReal2 ай бұрын
@@Superdude-rd2gs dude thors potential is literally to be strongest in fiction