Current Superman vs Current Thor

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@trinibad6318
@trinibad6318 7 ай бұрын
Current Thor is wayyyyyy beyond superman, he constantly evolves as a god tru trials and growth, he's an immortal God and superman is just an alien that they keep amping up for no logical reason, he's boring and his solution to every problem is to punch harder, there's just no contest character wise and power wise, Thor is better, superman just has no depth.
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 7 ай бұрын
He got cooked & supes is the archetypal hope & based on the god of hope lol.
@Prominent_intellect
@Prominent_intellect 5 ай бұрын
​@@BigSirSplash yeah superman is definitely getting cooked by current thor in no diff as you said so as the whole verse getting cooked by thor Current Thor is also archetypal representation of hope , truth , strength and more importantly power
@TheCosmosAwaits
@TheCosmosAwaits 2 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplashnarrative bro
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 2 ай бұрын
@@Prominent_intellect current thor bleed from Jupiter's gravity. Also still bound to Loki's plans, and is getting dogged by entrantress narrative magic lol
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCosmosAwaits horrible argument Shoutout to storm>jupiters gravity>thor>narrative It is lit👀
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed 11 ай бұрын
Eh, saying Superman is vulnerable to something is kinda ironic at this point. Dude has tanked the strongest magic and powered through Krptonite. Shoot, they even took all the stars away from him and he still won.
@emeyer2323
@emeyer2323 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha , brilliant. Great comment 👊🏻 wasn’t that strange visitor that lived longer than anything
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 11 ай бұрын
Yeah i agree, he is vulnerable but when people think he is against magic its an automatic stomp when in fact he faces a lot of goons who are juiced to the gills with magic.
@emeyer2323
@emeyer2323 11 ай бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701 Lol juiced to the gills 😂
@Omegeddon
@Omegeddon 10 ай бұрын
He's not weak to magic he's just vulnerable to it. People act like an enchanted pencil is going to kill him just because "its magic" thats not how it works
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 10 ай бұрын
@@Omegeddon they verbatim say "magic is his weakness" in action comics 1061. That is verbatim.
@Lumina-sd1en
@Lumina-sd1en Ай бұрын
Saying Superman looses because of magic is like saying Batman's looses to guns😂
@GenevaCircle
@GenevaCircle 11 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if writers ever seek to actively make their characters stronger than other specific characters in fiction -- it'd be interesting to ask Al Ewing " What feat would you give Thor to make him definitively stronger than current Superman?"
@jirkavrana7789
@jirkavrana7789 10 ай бұрын
Defeat TOAA
@Prominent_intellect
@Prominent_intellect 5 ай бұрын
Well that's not longer required becz Ewing did it by himself before even asking by keeping superman in mind Not thor has even greater feats than superman now he'll easily one taps comp and curt superman in no diff
@MrLourie
@MrLourie 11 ай бұрын
I have to happily agree with you. Superman has defeated the strongest of magic, he was sometimes the last one standing and unaffected by magic while everyone else around succumbed. And I believe the reason why he's vulnerable to magic is because of his dislike of it which then he allows it to psychologically affect him. You can't really say magic is a weakness of his because he can be powered by it, and even wield it. It's all in his head. Now I think I'll get a cookie.
@SonicBRmario
@SonicBRmario 10 ай бұрын
Isn't Superman the descendant of the Kryptonian Sun God, or something like that? If so, he has some roots to magic, no?
@extrakt1559
@extrakt1559 9 ай бұрын
@@SonicBRmariothe house of El which is superman bloodline is the descendants of the sun god Rao yes but all his powers seem to be natural for the most oart
@SonicBRmario
@SonicBRmario 9 ай бұрын
@extrakt1559 I see. So in DC, gods aren't intrisically magical in nature. Got it.
@Clurge
@Clurge 6 ай бұрын
Also the reason might be of his biggest plot armour his plot armour literally bigger than Batman LoL, But I Respect Dr Goon Opinion.
@laci2002
@laci2002 5 ай бұрын
​@@Clurgemate Batman has the biggest plot armor in comics it is not even close i mean dude has no super powers yet he beats beings with super powers, pls explainsl that to me, every super hero has plot armor but that is bcus most of them have powers but what is Batman's super power ??
@nottog3119
@nottog3119 11 ай бұрын
What's your opinion on Toji vs Kraven?
@JakeRider-wc6ke
@JakeRider-wc6ke 11 ай бұрын
Look at the end of the day Superman is literally HOPE on multiple layers. He's to Damn Strong
@Kingdom2098Yt
@Kingdom2098Yt 10 ай бұрын
not strong enough
@angelgarcia4641
@angelgarcia4641 10 ай бұрын
@@Kingdom2098Ytwdym???
@sonofkrypton9912
@sonofkrypton9912 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@angelgarcia4641 He clearly is delusional Leave him be 😆
@MrJeffreyrichards
@MrJeffreyrichards 11 ай бұрын
I have been torn on this as well Thor with the magic I had him above now we see superman all but negging the highest magic from DC that was asorbed from Zerox the planet of sorrcores and the enxus of all magic I was like how are you not done. I think he took like 3 or 4 full on hits as well as pushing though the storm that ripped bizzaro to pieces. Massive change on the pendulum.
@TheChicken-nt2rs
@TheChicken-nt2rs 11 ай бұрын
The only agreed thing about this is they are both way more op than ever
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 11 ай бұрын
Hot Take: This is a complete stalemate, going all out, neither of them are beating the other without the other surviving the battle.
@rishavrai99999
@rishavrai99999 11 ай бұрын
Narrative control from rune magic is not enough
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 11 ай бұрын
@@rishavrai99999 ...Uh okay? That's not the reason why I say this would be a stalemate, it's overall what the both of them represent for their respective Verses. There's no outcome where one of them survives the other if both go all out.
@Prospectone
@Prospectone 11 ай бұрын
​@@maylabrown4584dc cosmology >Marvel idk why ppl overlook this. Maybe just to make the battle closer than it really is. Especially when Marvel is the only other cosmology that comes close to DC
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 11 ай бұрын
@@Prospectone Uh no? Marvel and DC have had equally strong Cosmologies for decades by this point, as proven in their Crossover all those years ago. Both Cosmologies have gotten stronger over time simultaneously, but both at their zenith are dead-even with one another.
@Mayan_88694
@Mayan_88694 11 ай бұрын
@@Prospectoneno, they have equal cosmologies
@autobotfan11
@autobotfan11 11 ай бұрын
Superman is just that guy
@richardpage5812
@richardpage5812 11 ай бұрын
But Superman is vulnerable to magic.🤨
@mel-el5862
@mel-el5862 11 ай бұрын
​@@richardpage5812 not enough to take him down. Thor is vulnerable to getting punched in the face.
@Axlrazer
@Axlrazer 11 ай бұрын
​@@richardpage5812superman is no longer vulnerable to magic 🍷🗿
@NegrondaGwimReapa
@NegrondaGwimReapa 11 ай бұрын
​@@richardpage5812No, not anymore. Action Comics 1061 which is very recent... He literally tanked punches infused magic from Bizarro, the same magic which was stated to be the "most powerful magic in DC" it's Gem World magic; a place within the Sphere of Gods, Sphere of Gods is an Outversal realm.
@770peti
@770peti 11 ай бұрын
​@@mel-el5862If Godzilla beat Superman to death then i can't see how Thor can't do the same...
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 11 ай бұрын
Nice new Superman vs Thor video
@akelaswrath9791
@akelaswrath9791 11 ай бұрын
If I’m being honest, that quote of Thor never going all out against Hulk is the most dumbfounded statement I’ve come across, especially considering they put that statement in a Hulk run. I call hogwash on it.
@Omegeddon
@Omegeddon 10 ай бұрын
Also Hulk never went all out on Thor either so it was a meaningless statement
@Mannyhdz0052
@Mannyhdz0052 10 ай бұрын
​@Omegeddon Thor once stalemated a mindless hulk who wasn't being held back by banner.
@Mannyhdz0052
@Mannyhdz0052 10 ай бұрын
​@JayTheOne616 Thor also fought and stalemated Mindless Hulk, who wasn't being held back by Bruce so what's your point?
@calebwilliams790
@calebwilliams790 10 ай бұрын
It's consistent in comics that when thor decides the hulk has to go down he goes down. Except his Jason Aaron run.
@dacariwhitehead7971
@dacariwhitehead7971 10 ай бұрын
@@calebwilliams790hulk holds back when fighting thor
@jumplegacy5604
@jumplegacy5604 11 ай бұрын
While I don't agree that superman weak to magic because he's vulnerable to it by that logic any character who's even hurt or vulnerable to anything is a weakness Thor has been cut by wolverine claws is admantium now thors weakness because he's vulnerable to it and can be harmed by it no he's not magic simply bypass a kryptonian invulnerability which they don't even have fr as invulnerabie means you can't he hurt at all you shouldn't but that's my take on the hole magic thing but I could be wrong
@beepboop4833
@beepboop4833 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it depends on what you define with the word 'weakness'. Magic isn't a weakness of Superman more than any other character (unless they are magic users). But it is technically a weakness or vulnerability compared to his other attributes.
@TheAndreadellaluna
@TheAndreadellaluna 11 ай бұрын
i dpm't see any weakness to magic in Batman portfolio or wonder woman or any green lantern. It is just authors can't do math and don't know synonymous.
@jumplegacy5604
@jumplegacy5604 11 ай бұрын
@@beepboop4833 ok but by that logic than many other characters should be weak to magic including Thor as magic has harmed Thor before in fact I can name a number of characters who have been harmed by magic so if your gonna use that then Thor should also be weak to it because he's vulnerable to magic he's been hurt by magic from his bother Loki many times so no I don't really see magic as a weakness of kryptonians it's not like kryptonite but I do see your point as well
@jumplegacy5604
@jumplegacy5604 11 ай бұрын
@@beepboop4833 exactly yet they have all been harmed by magic before so to say superman weak to magic and not them kinda ain't right I'm pretty sure everyone in the justice league has fought magical being and have all been harmed by them so I don't see magic as a weakness for any of them
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 11 ай бұрын
Traditionally kryptonians are invulnerable to blunt/physical force under a yellow sun(supposed to be atleast) and magic is supposed to be an exploit to this invulnerability because it can actually do harm if it’s strong enough. Idk why people think magic is like kryptonite though where superman would be depowered just by having to deal with it.
@far0oky0u25
@far0oky0u25 11 ай бұрын
This is why I love this channel.
@ritzkola2302
@ritzkola2302 10 ай бұрын
Current Thor. He’s only gotten even more capable since Aaron’s God Butcher arc. Now he’s fighting a primordial God, a version of himself and hurting it.
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork 9 ай бұрын
Nope
@ritzkola2302
@ritzkola2302 9 ай бұрын
@@ZackSNetwork yup
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 6 ай бұрын
​@@ZackSNetworkyep indeed
@christopherbyrdakaSuperman
@christopherbyrdakaSuperman 11 ай бұрын
I don't know, these two at absolute full power would destroy both DC and Marvel multiverse, this one would even retcon the Omegas, the Ivory Kings and enigma and Beyonder races, this fight should be sanctioned in a empty void outside all time, space and matter! This way all that energy can create more worlds from these two extracting all that power!
@Yoeary45
@Yoeary45 10 ай бұрын
Thor already can destroy most of the marvel cosmology with just rune magic and now Thor transcends that. And Superman survived the most powerful magic💀💀💀 they can be around the presence and the one above all level of you ask me
@Wonderwomanfan29912
@Wonderwomanfan29912 6 ай бұрын
No it wouldn’t it wouldn’t do shit but break some buildings when do you ever see two high tiers destroy everything that is during a fight
@Luka-pv2dt
@Luka-pv2dt 10 ай бұрын
superman is incorruptible, the hope will always prevail in the end
@Comicfanfacts2024
@Comicfanfacts2024 11 ай бұрын
I think Thor should take it high difficulty overall 50/50 on both sides both are immense powerhouses & could get a win on each other tbh but Superman I can understand capable of winning aswell
@zachariaravenheart
@zachariaravenheart 11 ай бұрын
I don't know why it took me so long to realize this, but that jingle in the beginning was the opening for Tokyo Ghoul, Unravel, wasn't it?
@Assemble08
@Assemble08 11 ай бұрын
I think Thor destroyed a replica of 8 Cosmos, in the current Avengers comic.
@DiggyYu-np6ff
@DiggyYu-np6ff 11 ай бұрын
@@kyleking8833 don't worry about it opm washes them
@nicksonleslie7366
@nicksonleslie7366 6 ай бұрын
​@oluwadamilola6233 😂😂😂
@TheGamingCreed
@TheGamingCreed 4 ай бұрын
​@@oluwadamilola6233 The biggest yap I've heard 😂
@TegaOruma
@TegaOruma 3 ай бұрын
​​@@oluwadamilola6233and superman destroyed the 6th dimension which houses being so powerful 5th dimensional beings like Mr myk- who held the multiverse in his hands and cancelled a real life show- say they cannot even perceive
@Cosmic-Hell
@Cosmic-Hell 2 ай бұрын
@@TegaOruma He didn’t destroy the sixth dimension, he destroyed the world forger’s multiverse, but yeah.
@sgc591
@sgc591 11 ай бұрын
Both are High Outerversal, Immeasurable-Irrelevant speed. Imo I got Clark (mid to high diff)
@eyes_in
@eyes_in 11 ай бұрын
Superman isn’t anywhere near outer, he’s like 6D with wank 😂
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r 11 ай бұрын
Fact can't wait for your take on them
@JustSomeGuy440
@JustSomeGuy440 11 ай бұрын
@@eyes_inGross
@assainscreed1234
@assainscreed1234 11 ай бұрын
Thor isn't outerversal.
@JustSomeGuy440
@JustSomeGuy440 11 ай бұрын
@@assainscreed1234 He literally comes from a realm beyond time & space, and has stated his divinity transcends dimensions…….How tf is that not outer That was him when he was canonically weaker too
@sorin-3510
@sorin-3510 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. I also think Superman would win. 1. As you said, Superman could handle anything Thor has, including magic. 2. While both of them could absorb energy to become more powerful, it seems like Clark is better at doing it, and his power increases to a higher level than Thor's. Thor had the Odin/Thor Force and still had to absorb all of Galactus' power to take down Black Winter. On the other hand, a dying Superman just spent a little time flying through a few suns and absorbing energy from them, and he became so powerful that he knocked down World Forger and destroyed his multiverse with a single punch. I think it's safe to assume that Black Winter and World Forger are more or less equal. So, before absorbing that energy, Clark was way weaker than Thor was; he absorbed less energy than Thor, and he was still able to perform a comparable feat to that of Thor. 3. At the end of Immortal Thor #3, in that Q&A (or whatever it's called), Al Ewing answered to a fan, "Loki's definitely up to something, Benny, as we've seen these last couple of issues-but does it relate to Udgard, and if so, how?" Now, it doesn’t exactly say that this story is basically Loki f***ing with everybody, but it's a possibility.
@jsmaelsartor595
@jsmaelsartor595 11 ай бұрын
Black winter was a character able to travel from marvel to dc comics and eated a dc universe for what we have seen, he's like anti monitor but more powerful, also superman needs to go inside of a lot of stars to take a huge amount of energy while thor simply absorbed the galactus' cosmic energy in no time, superman can potentially just absorb all the energy from the superman's body using the mjolnir during the fight and destroy superman with easy
@sorin-3510
@sorin-3510 11 ай бұрын
​@@jsmaelsartor595 Black Winter never traveled to DC, there's no DC story that says that DC was destroyed by Black Winter. He destroyed a universe similar to DC, wich is not the same thing. I don't know what makes you think that Black Winter is more powerful than Anti-Monitor since both of them were able to eat universes. And saying that Galactus is weaker than a few yellow stars is just laughable. 😂😂
@Dr.Osterman
@Dr.Osterman 11 ай бұрын
​@@jsmaelsartor595 eaten a DC universe, Stronger than Anti Monitor LMAO
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 10 ай бұрын
@@sorin-3510 The Black Winter was actually crossing into the DC Universe, people don't remember it but before the Pandemic there was a planned massive Modern Crossover between the Marvel Universe and DC Universe. The Black Winter was going to become the thing that caused the Omniversal barriers between Marvel and DC to break down, similar to what the Anti-Monitor did in Crisis on Infinite Earths. But again, the Pandemic occurred and this idea was scrapped, the events that would take place however are stated to be a big threat to even Superman as it necessitated The Hulk dying in battle to save him and Superman himself fighting Thor in a 1v1 confrontation due to the aftermath of their Cosmologies clashing. This is directly stated to have happened already by Doctor Manhattan, or to have happened for him as he can see all of time at every point, Thor is nowhere near a small threat for Superman.
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 6 ай бұрын
ADE YOU SERIOUS?? Thor literally Eaisly Absorbed the ENTIRE Power Cosmic which is a multi to Omniversal source of power Thor is far better at absorbing then clark
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D 11 ай бұрын
Superman is just built different🗿
@stevenalvarez2924
@stevenalvarez2924 11 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, Jobbers, but it's in Thors blood to job. Give half a year and maybe Nick Fury will fold Thor using just martial arts.
@mel-el5862
@mel-el5862 11 ай бұрын
Wolverine bout to jump in this match and give thor his L. 😂
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 11 ай бұрын
Hes gonna get thanos sweep like hulk
@kylecollins3755
@kylecollins3755 11 ай бұрын
Damnit! I was about to go to bed. Superman has this high dif, but consistently wins.
@dsm2417
@dsm2417 11 ай бұрын
I have thor. Similar scaling, feats and on top of that a variety of haxes and abilities as well as powers such as rune magic, phoenix, friggs power, odin/thor force, and finally cosmic power. All of these are literal fundamental forces of the marvel multiverse and entities, thor has fought people with the same characteristics as superman. He can even absorb his sun attacks and eye beams and even his life force even blasting him with 1000x more power. He also has warrior madness a 10x boost and he has the god blast which can destroy immortal and conceptual gods of high outerversal such as Black winter, galactus, etc. He even fought Hulk who currently can destroy entities more powerful then The one below all. Thor definitely has this specially with the fact that he as well represents hope in marvel.
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 11 ай бұрын
Starship hulk not ticklin current hulk relax on that lol
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 11 ай бұрын
​@@BigSirSplashIsn't current hulk getting bullied by thanos and relative to she hulk and random ghost riders?
@wallsterrence
@wallsterrence 11 ай бұрын
@@amogus1415 thanos has always bodied marvel heavy hitters
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 11 ай бұрын
@@wallsterrence Starship hulk scales to celestials.Thanos doesn't,based on feats he's like odin level and below galactus.Based on statements he's also below galactus and the entire eternal race worships the celestials as gods,even uranos who thanos respects. I'd give it like low diff to starship hulk.
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 11 ай бұрын
​@@amogus1415thanos should bé normally galactus level as hé beat him multples Time the samme way hé l'ost to him Galactus is also stronger than celestial and dépend oden is also stronger than somme celestials
@ENGTech867
@ENGTech867 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the hard work when you deliver this content for us - much appreciated! This battle would be beyond crazy, and it's fair to say that it could go either way. Current Thor and Superman are powerful af - their feats are absurdly insane and their conceptual narrative symbolism transcends almost anything within their cosmologies. So, who carries more weight within their cosmology? If I had to choose, I would probably give it to Superman, but he will need every drop of his Detective Comics "HOPE" to take that W (maybe a quick dip too).
@deepakraj-o3v
@deepakraj-o3v 9 ай бұрын
nothing works against thor thor no diffs superman thor feats are greater because marvel cosmology >>> dc cosmology
@ENGTech867
@ENGTech867 9 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3vMy apologies for this….. Hell yeah!!!! I agree with you 100000% Marvel is infinitely larger than DC just like the earth is flat and gravity is not there! Wait I got a better one - Spiderman can defecate on TOAA and create infinite multiverse(s) while he is fighting TOAA! You see how one can make ridiculous claims - I truly don’t mean to insult your intelligence so if you want to defend your statement(s), please enlighten me and elaborate on your objective perspective on this cosmology topic.
@ENGTech867
@ENGTech867 9 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3v My apologies for this….. Hell yeah!!!! I agree with you 100000% Marvel is infinitely larger than DC just like the earth is flat and gravity is not there! Wait I got a better one - Spiderman can defecate on TOAA and create infinite multiverse(s) while he is fighting TOAA! You see how one can make ridiculous claims - I truly don’t mean to insult your intelligence so if you want to defend your statement(s), please enlighten me and elaborate on your objective perspective on this cosmology topic.
@ENGTech867
@ENGTech867 9 ай бұрын
@@deepakraj-o3v Yeah sure. You are 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% K OR-r E cT.
@l0sts0ul89
@l0sts0ul89 11 ай бұрын
12:13 I think thats the perfect saying for Superman, hes dealt with it before and will beat it just like before.
@LughSamildanach
@LughSamildanach 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff.
@TCG1979
@TCG1979 5 ай бұрын
A vulnerability and weak to magic are different and magic has never made Superman weak. It’s always hurt him but never weakened him.
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 11 ай бұрын
I can see thor wining when he unlock hes full potintiell
@youngcactusjack
@youngcactusjack 11 ай бұрын
You could also say the same thing for Superman we’ve barely scratched the surface of his power/potential could you imagine if Superman wanted to become stronger or powerful and decided to explore his possibilities/capabilities and absorption he would to powerful to put in vsbattles or death battles 😂💀
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 11 ай бұрын
@@youngcactusjackthe thing is for superman It canon that hé can reach all hes full potintiell if hé need to cause the embodiment of " justice in the américain way " like WE sée agnaist Neron and World forger and bizzaro Thor still cant Also vsbattle will just lowball both like it do to everyone
@TechNinjaSigma
@TechNinjaSigma 11 ай бұрын
Ladies and Gentlemen, Goons and Jobbers! We are about to witness the most anticipated match! LLLET'S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLE!!!
@erikbrown2682
@erikbrown2682 10 ай бұрын
Spot on as always and really how it has to be
@michaelgarcia5680
@michaelgarcia5680 11 ай бұрын
I think Superman wins high difficulty.
@assainscreed1234
@assainscreed1234 11 ай бұрын
Min
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 5 ай бұрын
Supes also scales relative to Thor: high outer layers to boundless layers into extraversal+ to levels into it aka (high 1a to tier0 to 1s)
@Dr.Osterman
@Dr.Osterman 11 ай бұрын
I like to think that Speed also plays a huge factor here Like what u said in the last Superman vs Thor Video, Superman just Blitzes
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 5 ай бұрын
Thor scales from high 1a to boundless to extraversal + to levels
@joshuagetty7841
@joshuagetty7841 10 ай бұрын
Current Thor is outerversal he takes this you got to do cosmic armor supes vs thors strongest version
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r 10 ай бұрын
Current super man to is outerversal as well
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 10 ай бұрын
Base supes already power creeped CAS. It would make no difference
@youngcactusjack
@youngcactusjack 11 ай бұрын
W reupload and yeah this battle would be a way better death battle than going against anime since both of these guys is high outer and this should supes hate can’t wait to see how much more broken both characters get
@dukeheavens9990
@dukeheavens9990 11 ай бұрын
I always notice the one punch man instrumental piano theme, in the background
@KierenAnderson-jo6ki
@KierenAnderson-jo6ki 10 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on sentry vs Superman villains such as doomsday, Mongul, The general, and Darkseid.
@VV_DOOM504
@VV_DOOM504 10 ай бұрын
Superman in comics is unusually strong.
@michaelseay2024
@michaelseay2024 11 ай бұрын
Magic in marvel>>>magic in dc Thor wins also Thor AP stomps Thor wins
@TheGamingCreed
@TheGamingCreed 4 ай бұрын
DC magic is stronger than Marvel magic, what
@Superman00000
@Superman00000 11 ай бұрын
My boy🔥🔥
@stevecavalle
@stevecavalle 11 ай бұрын
Trolls : but can they beat Hulk, Flash and Goku tough Jobers and Goons : ...😑
@jellyguy44
@jellyguy44 11 ай бұрын
I noticed Doomslayer vs Kratos is resurfacing. Can you please do one as well?
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 11 ай бұрын
This is still tricky for me because I can totally see either pulling out the victory and I wouldn't be mad. Both are High Outerversal, Immeasurable-Irrelevant Speed, BFR not a problem, has lots of combat experience, both are inconsistent in comic's were they aren't the main lead (had to add that one for the memes) Superman can tank pretty much all of DC's magic, meanwhile Thor can handle God of Stories Loki. I remember you did a video a while back about Marvel magic probably being stronger then DC magic. If that is the case Thor can probably hurt Superman with it. But Superman also has that Metaverse narrative that will bring him back but Thor can now cut and manipulate narratives. Can he do it to Superman - gonna have to wait for this run to finish to tell fully. However, Superman has dealt with narrative manipulators before so maybe it doesn't matter. It's so close but if I had to give an answer I'd say Superman right now because I feel like he would be the one to somehow come back first if they both died from the fight.
@emeyer2323
@emeyer2323 11 ай бұрын
Love this response, couldn’t have said it better. One of the best responses I’ve seen on any video or social media.
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r 10 ай бұрын
​@@emeyer2323exactly I don't care who wins has far as people acknowledge both of them being high outerversal
@ssjsonic3839
@ssjsonic3839 5 ай бұрын
When Thor manipulate narratives?
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 5 ай бұрын
@@ssjsonic3839 God of Stories Loki trapped Thor. Thor was forced to make an axe that could cut narratives to escape. It was in Thor's recent run.
@ssjsonic3839
@ssjsonic3839 5 ай бұрын
@@jeremymorris345 Wouldn’t dat be above Supes tho?
@davidshirley4696
@davidshirley4696 11 ай бұрын
His will power?????? Ummmm yea I’m not going with that. This is a stat for stat type of battle and Thor takes it. And we definitely don’t share the same perception when it comes to who has the most will power lol. You were better off saying it’s up to the writer that day. It’s like you said Thor has every advantage but something as common as will power will be the deciding factor. 😂
@ItsJustZayne
@ItsJustZayne 10 ай бұрын
At this point, why even say he’s vulnerable to magic if the most powerful magic users can’t bring him down? It would be like saying the symbiotes in marvel are vulnerable to fire but then repeatedly showcase how no amount of fire can bring them down. It’s like, why even bring it up then if there’s no scenario where it would actually matter? If he can hope his way through then it’s dumb to even bring it up as a potential weakness or vulnerability.
@DT25659
@DT25659 10 ай бұрын
It’s a stalemate
@Wonderwomanfan29912
@Wonderwomanfan29912 6 ай бұрын
Superman stomps
@TheGamingCreed
@TheGamingCreed 4 ай бұрын
Superman wins
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 11 ай бұрын
Supes is just too hot currently.
@animestand
@animestand 11 ай бұрын
I think Superman takes this a bit more comfortably. Thor has crazy scaling but I don't think he scales massively above certain things unlike Superman just blatantly shrugging off shit. Thor beat Knull because of weaknesses he could exploit. He doesn't scale massively above Loki or the elder gods and you could argue doesn't, at least not yet. And now Superman bodied magic from the origin of magic. I remember Bizarro being hit with the strongest magic which he absorbed and went to throw hands with a Superman who held back. I think it is a lot more comfortable than it is.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 11 ай бұрын
what i just dont like about superman is he is very inconsistent. dude can tank hits from Gods and abstracts but sometimes would struggle to lift a not so heavy thing or get beaten by street tier goons.
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r 10 ай бұрын
​@@jmgonzales7701u do know super man hold back alot and he has mental block to suppress himself that why sometimes he has inconsistent
@DiggyYu-np6ff
@DiggyYu-np6ff 10 ай бұрын
opm victims
@zwart.
@zwart. 10 ай бұрын
Dude he gets hurt by beings like starro ​@user-lu6yz7rq3j
@Yoeary45
@Yoeary45 10 ай бұрын
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7rThor has better feats and crazier hats then Superman
@TheCubecrafer
@TheCubecrafer 10 ай бұрын
Can you cover the entirety of Strange academy because it finished its run ?
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 10 ай бұрын
If it was sponsored
@bombaybabi7901
@bombaybabi7901 8 ай бұрын
There's a difference between vulnerability and a weakness. Magic isn't a instant win against Superman and he's actually shrugged off magic a number of times.
@gm2407
@gm2407 10 ай бұрын
So they took a character who already struggles due to scaling to have a credible threat and they made him stronger.
@SgtKnievel
@SgtKnievel 11 ай бұрын
Superman wins. He is overly protected by the DC staff to always exist and win. Thor doesnt have that type of protection from Marvel. Besides God like the Presence or TOAA the next level of beings that can defeat Superman would have to be Lucifer level. By the way awesome job in trying to get Al Ewing to show up! Would love to hear his explanation on the Beyonder "escaping the comic" finale from Defenders Beyond.
@770peti
@770peti 11 ай бұрын
It's huge wank. He not protected by the DC staff, actually he disrespected by the writers. Currently even Godzilla mops the floor with Superman, so he being comparable to Lucifer level characters is nonsense.
@rupeniugavule3479
@rupeniugavule3479 11 ай бұрын
​@@770petiThat comic is non-canon btw.
@770peti
@770peti 11 ай бұрын
@@rupeniugavule3479 The writer stated this Superman as powerful as the Prime Earth Superman. Then this means even if it's not canon event to the main continuity, but if it's happening in the canon then Godzilla clap that Superman too.
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 11 ай бұрын
​​@@770petiThe writer NEVER stated that , I don't know where you got that or if your just lying , the version of Godzilla even used here isn't Canon to mV . I really don't see how Thor wins. Hell Superman wasn't even trying to kill Godzilla , he was just distracting it.
@770peti
@770peti 11 ай бұрын
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Dude, you're lying here! Unfortunately i can't upload image here, but Brian Buccellato explicitly stated that this Superman as powerful as the Prime Earth Superman. If you want i show the scan, we can discuss this on Discord. Don't seeing Thor winning here is your problem, i'm actually read both DC and Marvel and i know both of them can give each other a challenge and this battle could go either way. But after this crossover Superman can't do much against current Thor. Lol
@windows98alpha35
@windows98alpha35 11 ай бұрын
Probably one of the only fights Superman can have where it'd be close. I feel Superman still wins but he can't win without killing Thor.
@grudgematch6653
@grudgematch6653 10 ай бұрын
Do you think Constantine is better at prep than Dr. Doom?
@superbowsersilva
@superbowsersilva 11 ай бұрын
Request-can you do a power scale video on Mario because many people in the sonic community keep downplaying him and acting like he’s just a normal human where in reality he actually has some good feats.
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 11 ай бұрын
Id do it if sponsored
@akeemreese1050
@akeemreese1050 11 ай бұрын
what if goku won against Superman on the original death battle ep? Would the power scaling community still exist and be as big as it is today?
@iRoNFist24
@iRoNFist24 11 ай бұрын
I can't find your Discord
@Ishigami96
@Ishigami96 11 ай бұрын
I think supes just wins there pretty relative but its just in character for supes to fly closer to the sun if hes trying to take you down 💀🙏
@danielendless
@danielendless 11 ай бұрын
I think Thor scales higher but it doesn't matter cuz Superman can pull out the x100 Sun Dip at any time and just win It's an unfair auto-win button
@RUNE_KING_THOR_6873
@RUNE_KING_THOR_6873 6 ай бұрын
Thor can manipulate Sunlight and he tanked hits from a weapon which has full power of Living Tribunal weapon who is above Eternity. All Creation are just sum for Eternity which makes Eternity Omniversal and Thor beyond Omniversal also Thor absorb and amp energy from opponents
@alexrobinet7576
@alexrobinet7576 11 ай бұрын
Oh shit! the UPSET!
@kohlkurtzhals2253
@kohlkurtzhals2253 11 ай бұрын
Take 2!!!!
@zeusproductions8382
@zeusproductions8382 11 ай бұрын
In this case Both superman and Thor are good. So superman doesn't win Just because hero should win.. When we exclude that Narrative Thor can easily beat superman
@mrh4nma
@mrh4nma 10 ай бұрын
Fax, Superman wins.
@soulsreaper7145
@soulsreaper7145 10 ай бұрын
i dont get whats wrong with dc. like why not adapt these comic runs into movies? that follow the story of the comics realy closely... like if it sells on paper, why bother re creating the wheel when u have a perfect version of it already in front of you?
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 10 ай бұрын
I still think hulk is comparable to thor as they are usually in the same tier, Al Ewing is a great writer. Immortal hulk is a great run
@justinmarch5095
@justinmarch5095 11 ай бұрын
Who wins between DCEU Supes and MCU Thor?
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch
@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 11 ай бұрын
Thor
@bryan6163
@bryan6163 11 ай бұрын
superman
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r 10 ай бұрын
Mcu Thor
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 6 ай бұрын
Thor 60/40
@grandcanyon-d4d
@grandcanyon-d4d 11 ай бұрын
Could Superman beat Russian wardens?
@jaydee3858
@jaydee3858 6 ай бұрын
Honest question does "current" superman even have weaknesses? Seems like they're all gone at this point magic is clearly a non issue, kryptonite barely even exists, he can time travel, he's a one man lantern corps like....what even are his "fights"? 😅
@Prominent_intellect
@Prominent_intellect 5 ай бұрын
Yeah there is no " fight " becz current thor one taps superfodder
@BARDOCK550
@BARDOCK550 11 ай бұрын
Narratively Superman wins everytime 100% the story of Superman is above the writers at this point. On a non narrative fight Thor has a chance if its high versions of Thor like Rune King going against base Superman.
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 11 ай бұрын
That Narrative only works within the DC Verse, not in relation to other Verses let alone one with an equally as strong Cosmology like Marvel.
@polketex5043
@polketex5043 11 ай бұрын
Narratives and Multiversal Concepts is only a DC thing. If Marvel played with that Thor would be Hope and many more things or Hulk would be Strength or Strongest One There Is and would literally never lose to any being.
@dsm2417
@dsm2417 11 ай бұрын
@@polketex5043 Hulk is literally the Wrath of god
@Ben-fk4bs
@Ben-fk4bs 11 ай бұрын
The narratives are the same about DC Comics as a whole and a part of him meaning every scaling there is in DC, Superman has access to, since Superman basically is DC. ,​@@polketex5043
@cartersauce5749
@cartersauce5749 11 ай бұрын
@@polketex5043still Superman does win 95% of dc are beyond narratives.
@WithcherKnight1307
@WithcherKnight1307 11 ай бұрын
Hey um jobbers I'm getting into reading dc comics more this year you have any suggestions for what runs to read or avoid because I mainly focus on reading justice league and justice league dark characters
@VitorSilva-mq6iy
@VitorSilva-mq6iy 6 ай бұрын
whats superman tier?
@zechariah2092
@zechariah2092 11 ай бұрын
But superman was erased though Dr manhattan successfully did it but the story of superman can't die the universe will always have its own superman it can just make another one correct me if I wrong but I think superman can be erased by Dr manhattan it's just the metahverse will birth another one
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 11 ай бұрын
You are correct
@alltheworldsastage4785
@alltheworldsastage4785 11 ай бұрын
I think you're accurate.
@alkebulanawah4242
@alkebulanawah4242 10 ай бұрын
If magic is a weakness to Superman then Black Adam amping him should have hurt him instead but no it made him more powerful. Superman is vulnerable to magic means he's notbimmune to it. It's not a weakness in the sense of kryptonite
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 10 ай бұрын
Supermans existence & will massively outweighs his weaknesses.
@peccles12
@peccles12 11 ай бұрын
I think that this would be a good match and I would say they can go go about 50-50
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 10 ай бұрын
base superman > RKT?
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 10 ай бұрын
Yes current thor is above RKT. Current thor has the All Power & Rune Magic
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 10 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash shiz crazy So current Thor still stronger than current Loki?
@thaddeusmuetz6747
@thaddeusmuetz6747 10 ай бұрын
I really would like to know how many of these fans have been in fights because no one seems to understand how important experience is it will overcome strength and speed and Thor is beyond an expert in combat. Just saying mabey look in to the champions of the world and you will see they aren't the strongest or fastest they are simply more skilled
@Theblobmma
@Theblobmma 11 ай бұрын
Vulnerability doesn’t mean weakness is the point people are making bro, 2 different things
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 11 ай бұрын
Well thank GOD the comic used the wotd weakness.
@Theblobmma
@Theblobmma 11 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash the black Adam statement?
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 11 ай бұрын
@@Theblobmma lmfao no. I dead ass made a video on the exact comic. Just go watch it
@Theblobmma
@Theblobmma 10 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplashah my bad I’ll take the L
@Fxtricky1
@Fxtricky1 10 ай бұрын
Superman is not a character. He is a symbol thats why he cant be rewritten or erased or dealt with in that way. He might as well be the words that are written for all the characters of DC. That might as well be his new power or the concept of what he is. He is that what is needed in light of everything in the DCU. The Superman. With that being said i honest to goodness dont see why anyone puts him against anyone anymore and havent put him against Images the Surpreme who basically is the same exact thing but in Image comics even to the point all cped hereos are just reincarnated variants of the man. Idk... just my two cents. Great breakdown vid btw.
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 11 ай бұрын
i honestly thought that can be a stalemate but side with thor cuz Strenght: RIPPED apart yggrasil, lifted and tossed it away, yggrasil contains infinite realms after being contested by the hulk, in a weakened state he moved the world engine which also contained infinite realms which are stated to be universes (fully formed), yggrasil is infinite, he matched huls in strenght which is stated to be boundless and he's hold back in most of their battles confirmed by beta ray bill. Speed 1)Hela stated Thor s speed is beyond the concept or comprehension. 2)Moves faster than Heimdall can percieve. Heimdall is all Seeing i.e can see everything in creation and nothing can escape his vision. 3)Gods in marvel are concepts. Thor blitz Hermes 2 times, which means he bliz The concept of speed. 4)Crossed the multiverse in seconds. 5)Streaks through space at speed beyond knowing. 6)Outspeeds ego who was moving in Hyperspace. Also Thor is HIGH-1A without feats🗿 beause he transends Dimensions. Durability: survived the god bomb which was omniversal, he's gotten better since he fought gorr, he has also survived being inside the sun IQ Thors iq exceeds reed richards who is a 12th level intellect Superman is 10th level intellect AP: knocked out the phoinex force, one shotted amped hulk.
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 11 ай бұрын
Superman is “been there done that and more” type character with the level of feats you mentioned. They’re not as impressive as you think when compared to supes. Assure you.
@DiggyYu-np6ff
@DiggyYu-np6ff 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheKryptonianSaiyanopm washes them both
@DiggyYu-np6ff
@DiggyYu-np6ff 11 ай бұрын
​@@kawakiuzumaki5934opm victim
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 11 ай бұрын
@@TheKryptonianSaiyan I didn’t lie, I said based on the what he listed. I don’t know anything about Thor that’s why I said that.
@cartersauce5749
@cartersauce5749 10 ай бұрын
1: it was stated that space/time, weight,distance doesn’t have meaning. Strength/speed easily boundless level 2: Superman escape from beyond the source wall (post-crisis) 3: reached the overvoid (post-crisis) 4: rebuilding the miracle machine and his power from memory who can easily destroy and remake the dc cosmology (post-crisis) 5: Superman easily perceive Barry Allen/black racer/wally west while they were on their higher speed. 6: catches a mind controlled flash on race. Superman without feats is easily high-1A to tier 0 as he is the center/heart/soul of the metaverse who is actually the dc cosmology IQ: Superman outsmart multiple times Mr mxyzplk who is high-omniscient. And outsmart brainiac who is the smartest being in the dc universe. He also one shot Mr nobody and defeated mageddon.
@bawrukid8734
@bawrukid8734 11 ай бұрын
if they fought it would be like old doomsday vs superman ..... ya superman won but it took him a few months to wake up and find out lol
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 10 ай бұрын
marvel cosmology is bigger than DC. Thor claps him. Sup should be compared to Captain Marvel.
@kawakiuzumaki5934
@kawakiuzumaki5934 9 ай бұрын
Marvel is not bigger than dc
@TheGamingCreed
@TheGamingCreed 4 ай бұрын
Most dumbest statement I have heard
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 4 ай бұрын
@@TheGamingCreed ok Mr Sense
@TheGamingCreed
@TheGamingCreed 4 ай бұрын
@@PYRATE31 You know nothing
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 4 ай бұрын
@TheGamingCreed go write comics mr all knowing
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 11 ай бұрын
Son of Krypton/leader of Justice League vs Son of Odin/member of The Avengers.
@DiggyYu-np6ff
@DiggyYu-np6ff 11 ай бұрын
both one punch man victims
@Grendelbc
@Grendelbc 8 ай бұрын
I have no idea what DC has done with Superman these days. If we talk classic Supes against classic Thor, Supes gets the nod based solely on speed. We never saw Thor fling blows around with the speed of Flash or someone like that. If we are talking about Thor with the Odin power, that's a whole new kettle of fish. We've seen Zeus, a god with a power level roughly that of Odin, slap the Hulk around like he was nothing. So I'd expect King Thor to be far stronger than Superman. The other aspects of the Odin power should allow Thor to negate any speed advantage on Supes' part. I'm not familiar with the version of Thor you're talking about here. He seems to beyond even King Thor or Old King Thor, both of whom have defeated Galactus. Granted, old King Thor needed the Necro Sword to finish the job. This vid is the first time I ever heard anyone suggest there was a version of Thor more potent than Rune King Thor. He should be able to easily defeat any version of Supes that I've ever seen. If DC has decided to make Superman virtually all-powerful they're going to have problems with future stories. Who is he going to fight? How will he fit in with the Justice League if he is far tougher than all of them together? Marvel is going to have the same problem with King Thor.
@spasebar
@spasebar 6 ай бұрын
You know what's ironic? Superman detractors will cry " he's inconsistent because he has too many versions!!" when in fact they're the one using a composite Superman to push the narrative that he's inconsistent. Canon main continuity Superman is stronger than 99% of his elseworlds variants and has been consistently a high-tier in DC cosmology and has all the feats, statements and scaling to back it up. there's literally no reason to composite him other than to try an convince people who don't know better that he's inconsistent out of some weird hate campaign.
@masterbeast-sz1yq
@masterbeast-sz1yq 4 ай бұрын
Suprman stomps thor, and this is not the first time 😂...
@marvelousthunder8975
@marvelousthunder8975 11 ай бұрын
I will go with Thor for only one reason: Thor is superman with some crazy haxes.
@Kingkongbongdong4716
@Kingkongbongdong4716 10 ай бұрын
Static scaling 👀👀👀
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 5 ай бұрын
Hax: Narrative hax ruin magic hax and energy and matter manipulation
@jefferyskeenan
@jefferyskeenan 6 ай бұрын
Here is my superboy prime take. He is not stronger than clark (he is clark) just a clark who does not hold back. this is a look at an actual superman who does not hold back. Thor has matured greatly but at the end of the day he does not have Superman's belief system of hope and although both have ridiculous fortitude, Supes is just not giving up.
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 5 ай бұрын
But you can argue supes takes it medium to high difficulty
@yancygoon
@yancygoon 11 ай бұрын
I meaann..they not Yancy tier Thor ass definitely got some good stuff for me he lucky I was looking for that batguy instead tho 😤😤💯💯 -Yancy street goons
@BigSirSplash
@BigSirSplash 11 ай бұрын
Your pfp and name means alot to me
@yancygoon
@yancygoon 11 ай бұрын
@@BigSirSplash you put Yancy on the map everybody gonna know about Yancy street now that you've given us a voice 💯💯💯 -Yancy street goons [thanks for the videos you've gotten me into dc alot more then I used to be and they make me laugh my ass off everytime you truly deserve success on here you provide informative and funny videos about my favorite genre 💯💯👍👍😤😤] - Yancy street mayor
@gokijin
@gokijin 4 ай бұрын
Dan Jurgens: "My Thor vs my Superman: Thor would kill Superman, simply put, Thor has magic." And Thor has beaten bigger and badder than Superman. Thor + Thorforce + Phoenix Force and you think Superman wins that? And I was starting to like this channel too lol. Especially if you're releasing videos trying to scale current Thor to Rune King Thor...Thor washes Superman.
@Superdude-rd2gs
@Superdude-rd2gs 4 ай бұрын
bro it's superman if he digs deep enough he can Beat anyone
@gokijin
@gokijin 4 ай бұрын
@@Superdude-rd2gs Bro, it's Thor. If he wants, he's taking Superman's powers from him. The same way he did Galactus, Zeus, Apocalypse twins, Pluto, and others. Superman gets drained by everyone...so he's not resisting Thor doing it when he does it all at one time. Mjolnir can drain him too. Thor no diffs by hacks. Thor as well has infinite/immeasurable speed, strength, and stamina, as shown by several feats. Superman isn't beating Thor. Thor is that guy.
@MarvelHubOfficial
@MarvelHubOfficial 4 ай бұрын
​@@Superdude-rd2gs dude thors potential is literally to be strongest in fiction
@richardpage5812
@richardpage5812 11 ай бұрын
This is the thing a lot of people might pick Superman easily but they forget that he's vulnerable to magic. And where does Thor's powers come from? You guessed it Magic, plus he has the Odin Force which is just insane.
@Prospectone
@Prospectone 11 ай бұрын
Tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video
@richardpage5812
@richardpage5812 11 ай бұрын
@@Prospectone I didn't need to my comment was directed to anybody thinking that Superman takes this easily and there are plenty that believe he would when he wouldn't it wasn't aimed specifically at you..🤨
@blackshadexl
@blackshadexl 11 ай бұрын
Supes is experienced in fighting Magic Users. He fights em every Tuesday after dinner…
@rishavrai99999
@rishavrai99999 11 ай бұрын
The thing is that you forgot superman took magic attack from reverse superman😅
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed 11 ай бұрын
Dude, Superman isn't vulnerable to magic. It just has the ability to hurt him. He still can tank most of it.
@chaneladriana6829
@chaneladriana6829 10 ай бұрын
It’s always gonna be superman
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