Pro Lavalier Microphones - My Impressions On Seven Pro Lavalier Mics

[@XIGuyIX]

Hi Curtis, just want to say you're the man and you are an extremely underrated youtuber. You're the mature persons youtuber. There's no flashy gimmicks, no stupid 3D intros with loud obnoxious music and insincere hyperbolic yelling into the camera. We appreciate you Curtis! Thanks for all the great advice.

[@curtisjudd]

Thank you 🙏

[@CreatingMusicandSound]

I agree with this comment 🙏🏻

[@superemesean5907]

You sound a bit homosexual if you ask me

[@youngrippa59]

I was JUST looking at new lavalier's so big thanks for this video. I've bought a lot of my equipment based on your assessments

[@curtisjudd]

I hope this helps. Best wishes!

[@Nickporter17]

But did you use the affiliate link? 😁🤑

[@anitanirmal27]

Which mic did you bought

[@beavis8073]

Eyyyy, its Rippa!

[@TeddyRumble]

@@youngrippa59 Curtis is the best.

[@curtisjudd]

This is an overview of the lavalier microphones I have used - not meant to be comprehensive and not intentionally leaving out any options. There are just so many microphones I haven't had a chance to use just yet. Many have asked about the Tram TR50. Seems like a great mic, just haven't had a chance to use it. Same with many others. Index: 01:14 What's special about pro-level lavalier microphones 05:39 Sanken COS-11D 08:34 Voice Technologies VT500 10:53 Countryman B6 14:04 DPA 4160 15:51 Shure Twinplex (TL47 & TL48) 21:37 Which is the best? (spoiler - none. Each fit different situations)

[@soundspeedinggh.5739]

hi curtis, my name is cepha, I'm a location sound mixer living in Ghana. i have worked on some couple of documentaries, movies etc.I have been following your KZbin channel and it's been very helpful. please I need your help in choosing a a replacement lav mic for my sennheiser G3 and a mic for indoor dialogues. I currently use sennheiser mkh 416 p48 and zoom f4 recorder. 1. Between Samson C02 and senal SCI- 3212MP which of these mics will you recommend for indoor dialogues. 2. countryman B3 and senal UTM-86-35H lab mics which of these will you recommend as a good replacement. thank you.

[@davidstyv2842]

On the theme of lavaliers, i would love to hear your advice on a wireless setup including lavaliers that provides the most reliable signal/quality to record sound on the move outdoor. Lavaliers positionned on cyclists and sound recorded from a car following and shooting. We tested Rode's wireless kit and wireless go, but signal strength and quality have proved unpredictably unreliable. have you experienced products suited for this type of use? distance could vary from 15 to 100m. hopefully you get to see this message.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Cepha, I haven't used the Senal microphones yet, but when I do, I'll have a review of them here. Sorry I couldn't help more and best wishes!

[@curtisjudd]

You may need to move up into the UHF pro or prosumer systems like the Sennheiser G4 or Sony UWPD systems to keep connected in those situations. You're pushing the limits of any of the consumer systems.

[@LProds]

Dpa 4061, you should try it too

[@jaybcreighton]

Thanks, Mr. Judd, for your years of helpful videos. I'm in the market for a new professional level lavalier microphone system. Your video is very helpful. If you or one of your viewers/subscribers can point me to one of your videos in which you take time to show the novice/newbie (me!) the most common, effective settings to use when recording educational videos using a wireless lavalier system (with a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K-6K) in an airtight, indoor studio, I would be very appreciative. One of my difficulties in this area is knowing how to use the jargon of this industry to find the resources I need. But, I'll keep looking. Thanks again, Mr. Judd. Jay Creighton

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Jay. Which wireless system are you using?

[@jaybcreighton]

@@curtisjudd: Curtis, I'm using Sony's wireless microphone package UWP-D21. But I've emailed you about this particular issue privately and you answered my questions. Thanks, Curtis. Jay

[@sidehop]

It's honestly so hard to find good quality reviews that aren't biased (Google search is a perfect example of such awful results) so thank you for these! It's refreshing to hear from someone that's been in the field and is a professional for newbies like us to understand even new information lav mic's components and how and why they work with various attachments! And the more I look at your desk, I'm like is that a bamboo top?! 😅

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Nek0.

[@ezrashanti]

It is bamboo.

[@fakecubed]

I can tell from your attitude that you are a true professional and I appreciate your impressions, and the specifics you went into. As always, use the best tool for the job! I'll definitely be giving your other videos some views. Thanks for making this content.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks fakecubed!

[@alexanderlyon]

Hi again, Curtis. Just bought the Sanken (to use straight into my Tascam DR10L) through the link in the description. I'm pumped, man. Thanks for all of your educational help over the past several years. I really love your channel and I'm happy to see your success.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Alex. I hope it works well for you!

[@D4Darious]

Very nice overview!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@MEGATestberichte]

Best video i have seen on that topic so far, i love the technical insights.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@KenRuan]

BEEN WAITING DECADES FOR THIS FROM YOU!

[@curtisjudd]

Glad we finally delivered!

[@envisiotube]

Very professional, it's refreshing that you have a no-nonse/no-blabla approach.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks, I appreciate that. I received another comment the other day that my videos were good but boring. LOL! I guess that person wants a goofy salesperson to present instead. 🤷‍♂

[@alantuttphotography]

You brought up a great point about non-actors being uncomfortable getting mic'd up sometimes. Most KZbin videos showing how to hide mics seem to focus on working with professional actors/actresses who know what to expect, and almost no one has addressed how to work with non-actors. Would be great if you could show us how you approach corporate people (men and women) who aren't always comfortable getting mic'd for a video.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Alan. Depending on the corporate piece, we sometimes have to punt and use an alligator clip on the outside of the clothing. For women, I often give them instructions on how to attach the mic with an alligator clip or tape to their bra between the cups. This almost always works perfectly because then the clothing does NOT rub against the mic. For men, I usually get the mic ready with a "moleskin" sandwich and then have them place it on their sternum. This is a little trickier and requires repositioning in many cases. Will cover it in more detail in the future.

[@srbh41413]

@@curtisjudd Would be great if you could do one on this. And agreeing with Alan Tutt that there are plenty about working with talent, but few on corporate. Do you use any of the URSA products? Thank you for the articulate videos.

[@curtisjudd]

@@srbh41413 Thanks. Yes, but mostly for narrative film work, not so much for corporate. We just let the mic be in picture when we don't have time to hide it. When I do hide the mic for a corporate piece, the time is still usually very limited so I just have the talent clip the transmitter on their belt or waistband and then we hide the mic as described above. More to come.

[@doubledark2]

@@curtisjudd will be interesting to see especially with Covid-19 issues to deal with

[@curtisjudd]

@@doubledark2 Agreed. My thinking is that initially, I'll be sticking to boom mics exclusively.

[@mikeege7643]

Curtis, I'm new to the world of video/audio production. My goals include real estate (virtual tours & virtual open houses) as well as KZbin videos such as yours where I can reach out to my senior and out of state clients. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to make these videos. I wasn't sure if it made sense for me to try to learn about the technology involved, but with your guidance I believe I can do this. Thanks again, Mike

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Mike, Thanks so much for the feedback and best wishes on your recordings!

[@huyked]

An all-in-one resource. You rock, Curtis! 14:35 Oh, that is very sly. Nice! :D

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks huyked!

[@Meneerbramschrijft]

I have literally been waiting on a video like this! Thanks a lot, Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@WoM]

Hi Curtis, I've been filming with a Giant Squid lav for years now as you can hear in my videos. I want to upgrade but I'm torn between a shotgun or better lavalier. My home studio is a basic apartment small bedroom and I use the Zoom H5. My dilemma has been that I don't have a deep/strong voice hence heavy post production. Previously I figured that for a smaller budget, a lav would be better since it's closer to my mouth, but now I'm looking for something still under $1k but that would be the best for my situation. Seems out of the Lavs here the countrymen would be best for me, but what would you recommend? Should I finally get a shotgun mic.? Thanks for all the info!

[@curtisjudd]

I think it depends a lot on the room in which you're recording. Sometimes, in small rooms with a lot of hard reflective surfaces, a lav will often sound better than a boom mic. So I'd first consider your recording space. If it does have a lot of audio bouncing off of walls, floors, ceilings, and even computer screens, then a it may be better to stick with a lavalier. Best wishes!

[@WoM]

@@curtisjudd Thanks again Curtis!

[@nathanksimpson]

I'd love to see some of the narrative projects you work on! The one you showed was a really great example of how you can tell a story with just two characters on a very low budget.

[@curtisjudd]

I'd like to show more of them. Over on the Uphill Cinema channel we have several shorts and we have another one in post presently. I also did production sound (not post) on this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnXGg3qVodSge6M

[@anthonyrude]

Whats the link to that vid?

[@peterbrown4333]

As usual, great tutorial video Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Peter.

[@GriffinConway]

Another great one Curtis. Always love the amount of detail that goes in to your videos. Thank you for sharing!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Griffin! I've got your C500 review in my watch later list. Can't wait to check it out.

[@GriffinConway]

Curtis Judd awesome glad to hear that. Thank you Curtis!

Very nice review ! It was very informative to see kind of best boom mic they would cut more with. Actually in the mixing process we would not only switch from one mic to another but most of the time offset the phase of the lav to match perfectly with sample accuracy the waveform of the boom and add them together to add more clarity. I have had Sanken COS-11D for years and just witched for Sennheiser MKE1 (kind of the same as MKE2), for more clarity and more flexibility to hide.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Benoit!

[@KevinKunze]

2:39 What connector or adapter do you recommend for the 5-pin Sanken COS-11D? I've been looking every where online and about to return unless I can find an adapter for standard transmitter

[@curtisjudd]

Which transmitter are you using? Usually one buys the mic with the termination for a specific wireless transmitter.

[@KevinKunze]

@@curtisjudd Sennheiser transmitter ew SK100. Thanks! :)

[@curtisjudd]

@@KevinKunze So you'll need the COS-11D terminated for Sennheiser wireless 3.5mm locking. Places like Trew Audio or Gotham Sound can do that for you.

[@KevinKunze]

@@curtisjudd know any spots in the San Francisco Bay Area?

[@curtisjudd]

@@KevinKunze Sorry, I don't. The shops I know are clustered down in the Hollywood area. It's a pretty niche business.

[@RipRecords]

What about some good-quality lavaliers that we can hardwire into a Mix-Pre 10 II ??? Are there any other options than converting a 3.5mm on a Sennheiser MKE2 or ME2 to an XLR connector?? Or is that the only way to go if we wanted to stick with Sennheiser lavs??

[@curtisjudd]

You can record one in via the MixPre's 3.5mm input. If you need more mics at the same time, you'll need XLR adapters (which also convert phantom power - 48V - to 3-5V plugin power so you don't damage the mics.)

[@AaronStrumpel]

Hey Curtis - wondering what you'd recommend for live music capture outside? I have a studio and do live videos inside with the studio gear, but it'd be great to get a kit of lapels and wireless systems to do location work. DPA is a company that I already really respect in the pro audio world - more of boutique reputation than Shure - but both amazing - the Shure TL-47 seems to be a great price and super solid. In terms of mic'ing a guitar close, I know DPA makes a system to hook on an acoustic - but not sure if that's standard practice from what I've seen. Do you have any experience with that? Thanks a bunch!

[@curtisjudd]

Hey Aaron, I'd have a look at the DPA 4099 series which are made specifically for instruments. Keep making great music!

[@AaronStrumpel]

@@curtisjudd thanks!

[@TheAaronwai]

very informative, something I never thought about before watching your vlog. Thanks !

[@curtisjudd]

Thank you Lung Wai.

[@ThomC]

Hi Curtis, thanks for the great video, I really appreciate the time you put in it to go through the features of the different mics :). What lav mic would you go for when it comes to someone singing with a higher pitched voice? I've been looking to buy one of these lately, but I'm not sure which one would be good enough quality-wise and which one would resist the sound pressure as well. Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

I'd look at the DPAs or the SHURE Twinplex. I believe they also make low sensitivity versions for musical and opera singers.

[@ThomC]

@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot Curtis! :) I think I might go for the DPA's they're not the cheapest but I like what I heard so far :)

[@Justin-or8he]

Curtis, I am looking for either a lav or shotgun mic to shoot my self-tape auditions. This will be in a small 5'x7' non-soundproofed room so I imagine it needs to be a dynamic mic? My budget is not too big maybe 100-200. I have a zoom F4, But would prefer to feed it straight into my DSLR which has a 3.5 mm port. Thank you!! If that budget is not enough to make a difference versus the built in mic of my Canon RP or even my iPhone 13, then I will just use those. I was on a major tv production recently and I believe they used a Sennheiser MKH 50, but that is a little too pricy.

[@curtisjudd]

Perhaps try the DEITY D3?

[@nikkoarnado6521]

Hey Curtis your videos are a godsend! Thanks for always posting such useful videos. What would you say are the best higher-end lav mics for the Rode Wireless Go II???

[@curtisjudd]

My preference is for the Shure Twinplex TL-48

[@Shauny_D]

I’d love to see a video from you about different ways to mic people up. Especially in tricky situations, but corporate, men, women, sweat, hair, tapes, etc.

[@curtisjudd]

Here's one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKnGgq1qi6t6jqM We had some issues with the connection, but the content from Simon is good.

[@baekmedier]

WE Really need the 2024 version or maybe the 2025 version of this video.. its awesome! thanks for making it

[@Naturlover785]

Great Review! That‘s a massiv help and saves a lot of time! Thank you Curtes!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@keithbrueton5435]

Great review Curtis. I'm on a huge learning curve made ultra easy by your reviews :)

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks K!

[@alisonjones4695]

Hey Curtis, As always, great video, very helpful. 1) I'm looking at the Sanken, would it be a good choice while standing in front of an electronic white board? IF not, any recommendations? 2) I'm recording with a Zoom H5 recorder, will the cable connect to the recorder? Will the Zoom H5 cause any problems? Thanks for providing this review.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Alison, It should work, yes. I haven't specifically tested the COS-11D with the H5, but the XLR version of the COS-11D should certainly work.

[@zachshoupnotshoop7374]

wildly helpful video, thank you!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@jessfilmdiaries]

Whats the name of the mic @17:35

[@RasDoesBushcraftBackcountry]

was just looking at upgrading my documentary sound kit, awesome stuff brother. Cheers. Ras

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Ras!

[@NewsRedial]

watching in Jan 2024. Do these reviews still count or are the new Lavaliere kids on the block?

[@curtisjudd]

There are the newer DEITY W.Lav models which are decent. kzbin.info/www/bejne/al7OfpKug5qmhqMfeature=shared

[@MrPhilbautista]

Great comparo. Would also love to see you do one on budget lavs for the passion producers and budding youtubers. I’m sure someone of your stature would have no problem getting a bunch of them sent to you for review

[@MrPhilbautista]

Sorry. I meant to ask for a comparo on budget wireless lav mics. I caught your comparo on budget lav mics and was kinda disappointed at the lack of recommendations but that is the one thing I like about your show. You really don’t make an effort to pimp anyone’s gear and don’t come off as a shill. More power to you and keep up the good work

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks. Yes, it is a tough line to walk because many people would like a simple answer - which microphone should I get. Unfortunately, that’s not an easy question to answer because there are so many factors I don’t know about each person who asks that question and there is no perfect microphone or wireless system.

[@lorageproductions]

Hi Curtis, Thanks so much for your insights.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@leoquesto9183]

@CurtisJudd This is an excellent overview of these lavs. Love seeing the comparisons. Great work. Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Leo.

[@eugiebear213]

I bought a lavalier on Amazon. I didn't want to spend much and when i saw the Slint lapel for only $20 why not give it a try. Im happy with it i use it on my iphone 11 very clear, no echo.

[@curtisjudd]

Good!

[@warrenkawamoto8660]

Sony's ECM-77B has been around for decades, and I'm still using those in 2020.

[@curtisjudd]

That's great news!

[@Alpha8713]

My favorite!

[@DanielKurganov]

Can one use the Sanken or something like the Sennheiser ME 2 with the DJI wireless mic? Sorry for the noob question, but I'm not sure how it works with power/compatibility. Thanks for your great videos!!

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, but...the consumer wireless systems like the DJI supply a bit less voltage than most pro level microphones are specified for. I did try the Sanken with the DJI and it worked, but I cannot say whether that will reduce the life of the Sanken (it is my understanding that undervolting electronic equipment can affect its performance and possibly its life.)

[@TeddyRumble]

​@@curtisjuddso are these usually 48volt phantom powered?

[@LearnLightAndSoundSessions]

@@TeddyRumble No, these usually require 3 - 5V plugin or bias power. Many of the consumer wireless kits like those from DJI only supply 2.5V.

[@calum89robertson]

Hi Curtis. I have a question. When recording the audio for a standard outdoor corporate interview (interviewee being interviewed by someone standing just to the side, behind the camera) what do you instinctively use for recording audio. Assuming it's a bit windy but not particularly strong and you can't get much shelter. I assume ideally you would set up a shotgun mic with dead cat boomed overhead, just out of frame, on a well sandbagged c-stand but I'm focussing on if you only have a lav mic. Which of these options would you focus on? 1. Attach the lav mic to the outside of, say, the person's suit, clearly visible (assuming here the client doesn't mind it being visible) and put the relevant furry wind muff on the lav (we have a Bubblebee one for our MKE-2 lav). 2. Attach the lav so it's behind a bit of clothing so it's hidden from the worst of the wind, e.g. just behind the lapel of a suit or behind a tie or scarf (potential issue of rustling) 3. Get the lav properly taped and attached to the interviewee's chest with the required fur etc, to try to reduce rustling.

[@curtisjudd]

It depends on the production. If we have to move fast, I put a fur on the Lav and attach it to the lapel or shirt. If I have more time, I prefer to hide it under the shirt.

[@calum89robertson]

@@curtisjudd sounds about right. Appreciate it Curtis :)

[@TonyMolesworthMusic]

Thanks. Question...i am a singer and play banjo. I have a wireless for my banjo and was thinking i could use a lav for voice. I have a mid to low voice. I could put it in a hat or on lapel which might pick up a bit more banjo. Are there any of the ones or a few to narrow it down for me what you could suggest ti get me going in the right direction. Also i would like the smallest reciver and transmiter as i travel. Thanks a millll. Peace. Tony

[@curtisjudd]

Maybe look at the RODE Wireless Pro? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpSpo5-unJ6Bp80feature=shared

[@DD-1971]

Very helpful, thank you. The conclusion is: hire a soundman who has all of them? I have the Cos-11 without the D. Is that very different from the D version?

[@curtisjudd]

Ha! Yes, hire a sound mixer! I don't know the difference between the D and non D versions.

[@mxcrec]

Sanken COS-11D is the most widely used lav for TV and movie production, I think. I've seen a lot of them heavily worn out and dirty in that adhesive tape glue - but still working.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, they're little tanks.

[@mariorivas7886]

Thx Curtis, always loud and clear. Just to give some comentarios about, and a Q. What did you use to clean the wire? I have got cables destroy , I mean, cables get broken, dry, the plastic cover in Sanken and Countryman get damage easy. The wire of Voice Technologies are thinner (Kevlar) but they last by far againts the other mention. Sensitivity: I can say that the capsule of Voice Technologie are so good that it became a problem because they are to sensitive to clothe and body moisture specially in shoots done in summer or in the jungle. They really match with a Shootgun. Countryman work good in those situations. I appreciate very much your advice, and I understand that this video was concern to other subjets. best regards Mario Rivas Sound Location Mixer Peru

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Mario. To clean the cables, I use wipes called Uni Solve. I bought them at Amazon: geni.us/lmv8X0 Full disclosure - this is an affiliate link and I earn from qualifying purchases.

[@NabilKhanVisuals]

Great video as always! The tinted glasses are very cool btw :D

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Nabil.

[@boihippi]

Watching Allen's review on the Deity W.Lav Pro I'm impressed with the sound quality. I currently love my DPA 4060 lav.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@patrickpaganini]

Another excellent video. Really interesting - thanks very much.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Patrick.

[@DiffuseMoose]

Love this video! I need to do more research yet, but do you have any recommendation on which mic to go with to get a sound similar to the Electrovoice RE27 N/D or the Shure SM7B (which seems to be what you're using when recording this video)? I really want as close to a broadcaster microphone equivalent in the form of a lav mic as possible. I'm also looking for recommendations when it comes to which wireless kits to get to use in conjunction with any of these mics. Almost like a starter kit. I worry about picking a quality mic but getting a really awful wireless kit. Or having the wrong connectors for the mic. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks again.

[@curtisjudd]

The Countryman B6 is where I’d probably start. For wireless systems, it depends on your budget and whether you’ll be working in studio or on location and what you plan to feed the audio to from the receiver (audio recorder, camera? XLR line or 3.5mm microphone input?)

[@toddpretre2198]

Great video and very helpful. What's your recommendation between the Sanken COS and the Sennheiser MKE 2? I don't know if Sanken has the filters the Sennheiser has. I nearly always hide the law under clothing. For boom I have an old Sennheiser MKH (a 3-position switch, not push buttons) but am buying the Oktava 012 for the amazing cardioid options and sound. Thank you, sir!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Todd, good question - I'm not sure there's a clear answer. But since you work with one of the MKH microphones, the MKE-2 is probably a better fit since its voicing is similar. Best wishes!

[@LiveMusicOntario]

I like that you touch on the interaction with the people you are mic'ing up. Folks might be so into the tech side of the work that they are not prepared for the human element; the prime impediment I encounter is impatience. Resistance to cooperating with the processes behind setting up sound and other gear comes into it also. They are are paying for you to be there, to give them a good production, but then they want you to stop fussing with the lavalier and body pack and get on with it. Things like that. Sometimes you're running into executives or entrepreneurs who are used to having things their way and don't like you in their space, so it might feel uncomfortable until you're rolling and they can start to do their thing on camera.

[@curtisjudd]

Agreed - there is a huge human element to being effective at production sound.

[@DB-js9tm]

I have been looking at several of your videos and found them really helpful. I am trying to work out which type of microphone I should use for long videoconferencing sessions and court cases and mediations (now very commonly done over Zoom etc, so we are speaking for many hours, often over many days for a full trial/hearing) but one that works from several feet away; with the microphone out of the way/not obtrusive (the speaker may be handing lots of files/papers, turning from side to side/ reaching for papers etc), so not the typical podcaster arrangement with the microphone in the face of the speaker. The quality of the sound and the microphone being out of the way (it need not be hidden as such) are the primary issues. It seems, for example, a dynamic microphone is out of the question. So far, the only solution has been a speakerphone but I am hoping a dedicated microphone will produce a better sound (the loudspeaker element is not important). is there the same type of microphone but better standard than on a speakerphone? I have been looking at your videos on the Lavalier microphones and perhaps they offer a solution. many thanks for any thoughts or ideas.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi D B, a boom microphone would be my preference. This video demonstrates different types of microphones for live-streaming at a desk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6OmlmeLg9yqj8k

[@umbertoaguiar]

Many thanks for another excellent review. I am going to get a lavaliere better than the ones I have to use with my iPhone and your review pointed to the solution: Voice Technologies. I've completely forgot about Voice Technologies what was really surprising seeing that I have a VT lavaliere ( an old model with a big battery compartment and XLR end. I can't use it with my iPhone.) and used it many times when I shot wired rather than wireless interviews. But you mentioned a VT mic and 💡! . Why I didn't think about Voice Technologies before even if I had one? Maybe because I didn't use it since the lockdown and because I was obsessed with DPA, which is the mic I really want but it's beyond my budget at the moment. An option would be the Deity Wav Pro with the Picogear transmitter (the new pro version. You can connect the transmitter to a lavaliere mic). The transmitter is so small that it might fit inside a suit /shirt/coat pocket with the mic cable so no need of 'could you please pass the cable under your shirt?" that so many interviewees feel uncomfortable about and rightly so.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@maclalacombe]

Man!!!! Thanks for this video!! Helps me a lot!

[@curtisjudd]

👍 You're most welcome!

[@benjaminmajors7962]

Curtis I've watched this video several times as I shop for lavalier microphones. I've come across several used Sanken COS-11D and Voice Technologies VT500 and I love the sound these mics provide. Thank you so much for giving your time and energy to provide such valuable and thorough information to all of us. Consequently, I am having an issue with the Sanken COS-11D and Voice Technologies VT500 though only while using the Rode Wireless Go and RodeLink systems. When the TRS is fully inserted, the mics pick up no sound. If I pull them out slightly - maybe 3mm or so from full insertion - they pickup sound. Given your background, surely you know whats happening here and how I can remedy the situation. I thought maybe it was a phantom power issue (which I still struggle to understand why a PP mic still works with a system that doesn't provide PP) but if PP was the issue then I suppose I would get no pickup at all. "Help me Obiwan Kenobi! You're my only hope!"

[@curtisjudd]

It would appear that they're wired for Sennheiser, but strangely, I didn't experience this issue with my Sanken COS-11D and the RODELink. Hmm. You might give Gotham Sound or Trew Audio a call and see what they suggest. Best wishes! Also one note to prevent any potential issues: lavalier microphones should never be used with phantom power (+48V) unless you're using a model with an XLR output which is specifically designed for using phantom power. 99.9% of lavaliers with a 3.5mm TRS output connector require plugin power (3-5V).

[@benjaminmajors7962]

@@curtisjudd Very helpful Curtis. Thanks again for all you do.

[@photronic]

Great work on 'The Army Nurse'. I've worked with Mary Hall. Small world!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Nyk - Small world, indeed!

[@BenBowmanNYC]

So much valuable info, as usual. I see MKE2 "Reduced Sensitivity" versions floating around. 1) what is the appropriate use for this - -can it be used for standard dialogue? 2) as a general concept, why wouldn't you just use a regular sensitivity version and lower the gain, enjoying the increased signal to noise ratio? Did you already do a video about this?

[@curtisjudd]

That’s primarily for opera and musicals where the performers generate really high sound pressure levels, more than most wireless packs can handle even at the lowest gain settings with standard sensitivity mics.

[@BenBowmanNYC]

@@curtisjudd thanks for knowing all the things and sharing it.

[@Runawayrecordsproductions]

Great video! Do you notice a lot of handling noise with the countryman b6? I recently tried to use mine in a podcast situation with high end in ear monitors on and couldn't stand the noise that came from any slight movement.

[@curtisjudd]

Not more than most lav mics hidden under clothing.

[@rickhickman2730]

May be a dumb question Curtis, but I can't seem to get a straight answer from the people I purchased it from. I bought the TL47 after watching this video, and I purchased the TL47 with the XLR connector. With the XLR connector, it requires 48v phantom power. If you are using the T4AF or a LEMO or microdot connection, can you adapt it to a wireless system like the Sennheiser G3/4 where the bodypacks don't have phantom power options, unless you buy the large phantom power pack. I would really appreciate some input.

[@curtisjudd]

The XLR version down converts the voltage to the roughly 5V that it needs. The other versions do not, they just take the 3-5V fed to them. This is my understanding.

[@alexanderyuniverg5268]

Hello Curtis. Are you familiar with VT506 capsule? And if you do , do you think it is good enough for micing a talent for films? Thank you in advance

[@curtisjudd]

I have used the VT500 and VT500 WA but not the 506.

[@olivergilpin]

I'm looking for an excellent travelling mic for business conferences. Wired. Lavalier. What top 2-3 would you recommend? Would love advice! Price being no issue.

[@JohnBrazile]

Very helpful. Going to get the Shure TL47

[@curtisjudd]

I hope it works well for you!

[@hoodaffairstv]

I definitely need some decent lavs which I don't have yet. I like the twinplex but trying to hold out to see if those new deity lavs are going to come out soon and compete with these. Luckily I have time before I need a set of lavs to purchase 😟

[@curtisjudd]

I'm looking forward to the DEITY lavs as well.

[@Tiborkanal]

Thanks for this! Very helpful!

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@elliotcurrie7143]

What about for live reinforcement applications, such as wedding ceremonies or conference panels? Omni or cardioid? Best sounding/least eq sculpting? What's a good choice?

[@curtisjudd]

Shure uniplex.

[@jeffb8824]

Thank you again for your great content! What lav mic would you recommend to help reduce background noise when shooting outdoors (planes, lawnmowers, cars, etc)? I am using the Rode Wireless 2, and/or Tascam recorder. The dialogue is good, but I pick up a lot of noise and I use Izotope to try and remove sound. Thank you for those videos as well - they're excellent!

[@curtisjudd]

A headset mic can help if that is an option for what you're shooting. Anything which can get closer to the sound you want - dialogue - will help.

[@rosspeterson2658]

Hi again! I’m wondering how do you compensate for the drastic sound difference for where you place the microphone? (Under a shirt, in a hat, etc) is it just intense EQing?

[@curtisjudd]

EQ indeed!

[@jtdiddy3160]

Great video Chris. Wondering why u chose to do a setup where u show ur mic instead of ur usual setup? I actually like seeing the mic on the boom

[@curtisjudd]

Hi JT, my regular studio space is in an unheated basement and it is dead of winter. So I used this warmer space instead. Will switch back to the regular space as it warms up. 😀

[@Mile26point2films]

Great video Curtis! Of your lavs, which do you prefer for women that have very low voices?

[@curtisjudd]

The Shure TL-47 is where I'd start. If that isn't sounding great, I might try the VT500.

[@adammesa]

Great presentation thank you! What lav would you recommend for on stage presentation in a large space that reduces the most room noise? Budget wouldn’t be an issue.

[@curtisjudd]

I would look at using a headworn mic instead of a lavalier like they do for TED talks. The Countryman E6 is worth a look: bhpho.to/3aEDvee full disclosure - this link is an affiliate link. As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.

[@adammesa]

@@curtisjudd thank you for such a quick reply! Part of the issue is we work with people often who dislike the head mic and really don’t like wearing it and don’t like a handheld. Which is why we are now looking for the best lapel option for those that really don’t like the headset. Given that situation if you had to choose a lav would you recommend any particular one?

[@curtisjudd]

@@adammesa 99.9% of lavalier microphones are omni-directional so keep that in mind. I like the Twinplex TL-47 quite a lot.

[@shanesinclair7943]

Thanks for this and all of your videos-love the objective, non-sensationalized overview. I have a couple of questions as a newbie, having scoured most of your videos: 1) can you use/do you recommend using two different brands of lav mic’s in the same shoot-ex. An interview between two people? Or 2 different actors? Does it require a lot of post production EQ to use different types of mic’s? 2) in watching your videos I am thinking about picking up a DPA 4060 for me (interviewer) and a cos 11 for an interviewee or is it better to buy a set of two of the same for my purposes, using a Rode Go wireless ii. Thanks for the vids-they really are so informative.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Shane, yes, I regularly use different lav mics for the same shoot. What I generally try to do is choose the mic which will suit a particular person’s voice best. So if someone has a rather “thin” voice without a lot of bass response and I want a bit more, I might use the Countryman B6 on them. For those with a lot of bass, I would opt instead for a DPA 4160, etc. Your plan sounds good - a DPA and Sanken should work nicely. Best wishes and happy recording!

[@shanesinclair7943]

Thank you so much Curtis. Really appreciate you responding.

[@shanesinclair7943]

@@curtisjudd Hi Chris, just wanted to circle back on this conversation and say a heartfelt thanks. I went with the sanken which i really like, and also the countryman which for my voice is my favourite. Both are great IMO just a matter of which sounds best on the individual. I also wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the tone and tenor (metaphorically speaking) of your videos, the are calm and cogent, objective and evidence based.

[@ToddEPatterson-TLP]

Curtis, my EST and your MST have made me miss calculate my viewing times... I’m petty sure by watching and watching this video you are a fan of this Deity WLAVPROD5. It gets me the Deity Microdot Mic and a Microdot Compatable plug for my body pack. Your thoughts?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Todd, still waiting for my DEITY lavaliers to arrive but I’m pretty excited for them. More to come once I get a chance to work with them a bit.

[@maytsehay7924]

Phenomenal video! Thank you so much!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks so much, May.

[@asmru6982]

Thanks for the review! I haven’t had good luck with mics in general so I’m moving to a higher price range. But I notice you haven’t spoken on which mics are unidirectional and which are omnidirectional...?

[@curtisjudd]

ALL of these are omni-directional.

[@smallbizdigitalmedia]

@Curtis Judd Excellent video. Does the Sanken COS-11D version with the Sennheiser 3.5mm connector, plug in directly to the Tentacle Track E Recorder you reviewed recently?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, it does.

[@ChrisColbert3]

Where can I find the best lavalier mics like the DPA 4160? And Great Video!!!

[@curtisjudd]

Links in the description.

[@jeffreythemeditator]

Hi Curtis. I am upgrading my lavs but will want to connect to a Tentacle E which uses the locking Sennheisser. I am cutting with an 8050 and Schoeps MK41. I have been attracted to the Twinplex, but there seems to be no available termination to match the Tentacle E 3.5 lock. Do you know of a workaround, or could you recommend an alternative?

[@curtisjudd]

You could look at custom termination. Trew audio, Gotham Sound and other pro shots usually offer this service.

[@joellouisfire]

Amazing as always! Question - I noticed you didn't talk about the RM-11 accesory on the Sanken. How does that compared to a Bubblebee Lav Concealer? Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Louis, I haven't used the Bubblebee concealer, but will surely cover that when I do get the chance.

[@joellouisfire]

@@curtisjudd Sounds good, thank you!

[@Oggification]

Hi Curtis -- how do you like the A10? I was looking at it but was a little dismayed that it only had 50mW output power, compared to some of the Lectros which have 100mW. But I like that the A10 covers a huge range of frequencies.

[@curtisjudd]

It's been great - just bought two more channels. Haven't had any issues with only 50mW in terms of range, but I'm not generally pushing huge ranges.

[@Oggification]

@@curtisjudd thanks, that's a good endorsement coming from you! I think I'll invest in them when I get the chance.

[@user-bi3wp1ct1q]

Another great video, thanks. Have you ever made a video or used the Rode Lavalier Lapel Microphone and compared it with other high-end mics or the Rode Smart Lav+ or Rode Lavalier Go? Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

No, but from my tests, the RODE Lavalier GO and smartLav+ both produce a lot more self noise than the RODE Lavalier.

[@user-bi3wp1ct1q]

@@curtisjudd ok thank you.

[@lincolnmicrophonellc]

Thanks for the content as always!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@alexanderwelsh]

u god of microphones! u knowledge is awesome! THANK YOU! SIR!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Alexander!

[@KenFlanagan]

Thanks for that. It was especially helpful when you paired the lavs (eg.MKE2) with a typical shotgun to cut to (416) and treated them as a "matched" pair but I don't understand why there should be such variation in the general sound of these lavs, having tested some of them myself. I found the Cos 11 overly bright, so what overhead would match that? The MKE2 I tried had crazy cable noise. I appreciate your even handedness generally but a recommendation beyond saying that they are all good for different purposes, would be very helpful. It would be great if you could use your expertise and experience to address the likely question that most of us have, as filmmakers rather than sound recordists. If you had to pick one, with a recommended overhead, what would it be. Thanks so much for all your work.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for the feedback Ken. I agree, that would have made a more useful video. As noted the Sanken CS3e cuts nicely with the COS-11D. I believe I also called out cutting preferences with the others as well. I am sorry that I could not share more - my experience is limited to the microphones I have used but I'll keep sharing more as I learn more.

[@KenFlanagan]

Hey thanks so much for your reply. For sure manufacturers often match their sounds and thanks for calling that out but there seems to be so much needless variation between models and brands. I never really understand why neutrality and accuracy aren't paramount so that mics match more widely across brands and we just pay for build quality. I have a similar issue with headphones but I guess manufacturers feel that variation = USP and there are always niches of differentiation. What would be super useful would be to know what is used professionally, by use cases like your hobbit reference to give some in work context. TV News broadcast v film v corporate v doc. Regardless thank you so much for all your work. It's always done with such an amazingly thoughtful tone and care. Best K

I love the sound of the MKE 40 lavs but they are definitely not made to be hidden under clothes with their big cardioid capsules. Looking at a pair of lavs that I can hide and that could survive abuses, would you choose the shure TL47/48 over the Cos 11 ? I own a 416 boom and plan to get a 8050 in the future to boom indoor with less ambience, so being able to cut in between those lavs and booms mics more smoothly would be a plus.

[@curtisjudd]

Hmm, that's a tough call. I probably would go with the Shure TL but to be fair, there are plenty of others who would advise you to go with the Sanken.

Curtis Judd Thanks Curtis, if it’s tough, that means both could get the job done, so it’s all good :)

[@Benoitetvous]

Amazing video, which actually captures the further away? Here I am thinking of street interviews or prank videos where you don't want to hold the mic and hand it over to the people

[@curtisjudd]

They’re all about the same. Laws of physics apply.

[@alvinpunk83]

Hi Curtis, great job as usual! You made a perfect comparison between different models, with strengths and weaknesses. Few years ago I bought an Aspen Mic after I saw one of your video. Today I'm searching something affordable and more recent to replace it and to improve sound quality. Any suggestions? I'm looking the tascam tm-10lb, and I took a look to the Deity V lav (but it has too long cable for my use). I hope you can make an overview on cheap lavalier mics, you are simply the best in audio equipments reviews!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Marco, thanks. I need to spend some time looking at affordable lavaliers. I've been so busy with other things I haven't kept up. Hopefully more to come. Best wishes!

[@alvinpunk83]

Thanks for answer Curtis. Sure! Obviously if you have time and you are interested. Thanks anyway for your job!

[@khageshkumar8048]

Hi, thanks for this useful information. Please recommend for a headband microphone mainly use for live singing with band (in front of loud monitors). Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Earthworks SR117?

[@innatemusic]

Hey, Curtis! Great job. I’m about to buy a couple of lavs and the one I landed on is the Countryman B3. How does it compare to the B6 and should I just bite the bullet and get the b6?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Nathan, I used the B3 which was terminated with an XLR connector for a couple of weeks and it produced a fair bit more self-noise than I had hoped. I don't know if that would be any different with a different termination (3.5mm, 3 pin, etc.) but I'd opt for the B6.

[@innatemusic]

Thanks for the speedy response.

[@innatemusic]

I think I’m going to land on the AVX with the MKE II.

[@curtisjudd]

@@innatemusic Good choice.

[@gregmcgarry1]

Great video. What mic & recorder combo are you using for creating your videos while your camera is overhead and your hands are free? I'm looking for pro quality and slight tolerance for head movement.

[@curtisjudd]

Generally I use an Earthworks SR314 on a desk mounted boom arm and a variety of recorders, audio interfaces, and preamp/processing channels: MixPre, Universal Audio Apollo x6, camera input, and others depending on which product review I'm working on at the moment.

[@gregmcgarry1]

@@curtisjudd Thank you for the swift reply! :)

[@Seanonyoutube]

Really nice overview! I’ve noticed that lots of these lavs are omnidirectional. If i’m trying to get audio in a noisy environment, should I seek out a unidirectional lav, or will the close proximity of the lav to the person’s mouth make the omnidirectional lavs good enough at canceling out backgrounds noises such as trees rustling or traffic in a nearby highway?

[@curtisjudd]

That's the general idea, yes, because a lav is mounted right on the person, it is able to isolate sound a bit that way. If you need a lot of isolation capability, you may want to switch to an ear-hanger style mic like they use in TED talks. That will isolate even more. Cardioid lavalier mics are rare and all of them that I've hear do not sound very good and are difficult to position just right.

[@Seanonyoutube]

@@curtisjudd thanks, that’s good to know. Out of the lavs in this video (or otherwise) is there a particular one you would recommend for my scenario? (Shooting stationary people talking outdoors with wind) it’s for commercial purposes so ideally better if the mic isn’t visible.)

[@curtisjudd]

@@Seanonyoutube I don't think any one of these are better at rejecting ambient sound than the others. So I'd look at the sound character and hide-ability. For me, I prefer the Twinplex TL-48 in most cases.

[@Seanonyoutube]

@@curtisjudd awesome, I’ll look into it. Last thing i’m wondering: would you recommend connecting the receiver to my mirrorless camera, or should I get an external recorder and sync the audio with the video in post?

[@curtisjudd]

@@Seanonyoutube That depends on a lot of factors, the biggest being whether there will be a dedicated person to operate a sound mixer/recorder? If so, then yes. But if not and you're doing all yourself, then yes, I'd feed the audio directly to camera. Best wishes!

[@djwaters22]

How do you plug the mic into your camera? Do i need to purchase a box or something?

[@curtisjudd]

Most of these I use with a wireless transmitter system. But there are lavalier mics which can plug directly into your camera like the DEITY V.Lav: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5DRgYGVbtNmgck

[@НиколайТюленев-ч9т]

Thank you for video. Do you have video about receivers and transmitters?

[@curtisjudd]

I have this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5WXoGWir758nNE

[@peterlopez1331]

Hi Curtis, again thanks for the amazing content, I was wondering what are your thoughts on the sanken cos-11d noise wise, I need a microphone I can use for corp videos and narrative which I can put really fast on a speaker at a corp interview, hide it, and know I won't get any clothing noise. I'm tired of dealing with horrible rf interferences and clothing noise with the sennheiser ME 2 microphones. Thank you so much for everything you do for us. Hope you're doing fine! Saludos from Spain!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Peter, It is ok, with a quality transmitter behind it. Hiding lavalier mics is an art. I think it has more to do with technique than the microphone you use, but the Sanken does well with good hiding technique.

[@danniv13]

Have you noticed if the VT500 gets less clothing rustle noise than the Sanken COS 11-D? Perhaps due to the Sanken being more sensitive of a mic or maybe because the cable of the VT500 itself is quieter?

[@curtisjudd]

No, they're about the same in my experience.

[@ladmandiola8868]

Hi Curtis, Great video! I had a question, have you heard the difference between the 4060 legacy and CORE series side by side? If you have do you know if there is any difference when it comes to voice over work? Let me know what you can, as I cannot find ANY video reviews on this. Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

I haven’t, unfortunately.

[@CreatingMusicandSound]

Excellent review thank you 🙏🏻

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@mmhcreates]

Hi, thanks for this. Are you able to offer a 2022 recommendation for an alround Lavalier microphone? Main use requirements; singing and acoustic instruments.

[@curtisjudd]

I'd recommend the SHURE Twinplex TL-47 as an all-rounder.

[@judgesparky4614]

Thanks for all the great information. I have the DPA 4060 lavalier. I use it with a Zoom H5 as the lav has XLR and needs 48V phantom power. Can the DPA be used with a 3.5mm adapter on a typical body wireless transmitter like the Deity Connect, Sennheiser G4, or Sony UWP? Or must I use the wireless XLR transmitter that these same companies also offer, which are bulkier, but offer the phantom power?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi judgesparky, I'm not aware of an adapter that can do that. But you could have someone re-terminate the microphone with microdot or 3.5mm locking if you prefer. Most of the pro sound retailers can do this.

[@judgesparky4614]

@@curtisjudd Thank you for the response. 1917 just won for best sound at the Oscars. The DPA 4060 I have does have the microdot and I use an XLR adapter. If I get the 3.5mm locking adapter to the microdot, will my lav work with only phantom powered transmitters or will it work with the body pack Deity Connect which does not have phantom power? Or must I use the XLR transmitters? Thanks

[@curtisjudd]

@@judgesparky4614 Hi again, you don't need phantom power with the other connectors, instead the wireless systems apply 3-5V plugin power via the other non-xlr microdot adapters. So yes, DEITY Connect would work.