RODE's New Wireless System - How 'Pro' is the Wireless PRO?

[@whatnow5598]

Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about and not just another commercial. Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@michalwalks]

I love how you do everything right for what a viewer wants to know instead of what the algorithms wants you to do to get views... I love every video how you give a summary at the start. Thank you again.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@LudwickMa]

Thanks for the great work @curtisjudd Did you happen to test how long the case takes to charge a receiver/transmitter back to full after it dies?

[@curtisjudd]

@@LudwickMa Sorry, no, I didn't specifically time it. 😔

[@HouseofRen]

Timecode pro tipp: you can’t jam from another timecode device into the rode. But you can jam from the rode to tentacle sync and then using the tentacle sync app you can sync other tentacle sync suits including the track e. Most reviewers are missing this part when talking about timecode. A multicam with timecode workflow needs multiple cameras with an actual timecode generators attached. So rode jamming into a tentacle sync will be the solution. My work is weddings

[@curtisjudd]

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[@luissinsin]

This is true and a great way to do it for a shoot that only needs 2 mics. Would be great to have the Rode units accept time code in so you can do more microphones. Alternatively, if they can use the app to sync multiple receivers together (similar to how tentacle can sync their devices via the app). This would allow 4 or even 6 mics with sync. Another thing that people don't talk about is that the timecode on the internal recordings is in the Metadata of the files. With the Sony cameras that accept timecode, that is also in the Metadata which make it incredibly easy to sync. When you record the timecode via audio it goes into an audio channel and then it gets handled differently. Getting the audio timecode into Metadata timecode involves more steps.

[@MechaUsagi]

Would love it if multiple sets of rodes could at least sync to each other via the app

[@AaronAbernethy]

@@MechaUsagiA recent Rode video hinted that this is probably coming in a firmware update.

[@AskJoe]

Great review, as always. I pre-ordered mine a few weeks ago and just got it yesterday. What amazes me most is what you get for the price. I paid over $230 for a single 32-bit float lav mic recorder (a Zoom F2 with Bluetooth), and it wasn't even wireless. But this includes TWO 32-bit recorders and TWO high end mics, for less than half the price. Everything else is a major bonus.

[@curtisjudd]

👍 happy recording!

[@mondotv4216]

$399 is not "less than half" $230. I'm not arguing the value proposition just your maths?

[@rAustinBall]

@@mondotv4216half of 400 is 200 which is, less than $230 😂

[@AskJoe]

​@@rAustinBall Let's do the math. Yes, I paid $230 for ONE Zoom F2. You get TWO 32-Bit recorders with this, so that's worth $460. A RODE Lavalier II costs $99 each. They give you TWO of those in this kit. That's another $200 of value in the box. So far, we're at $660 of value. They magnetic mounts which cost about $30 or so each, not to mention the two cases, etc.. Remember, I only mentioned comparing the TWO 32-bit recorders to another 32-bit recorder. My Zoom F2 isn't wireless. So, as you may guess, I won't be using my Zoom as a body pack any longer.

[@rAustinBall]

@@AskJoe I know dude. I was defending you.

[@KarlRock]

I’m gonna pick it up, 32bit will help with save my vlog audio when it clips. I often record in noisy environments, so I have to raise my voice a lot. I did have to return my Wireless GO II twice because of bad battery, and then buttons not working on the next unit. Hope this one is a bit better made. Thanks for the great review.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@Richard_Bumblebee]

I had a bad battery on the original Wireless Go and they repaired it for me free of charge even though I already had the device for several years and was out of warranty. At least they have good customer service.

[@space_1073]

Needs to be mentioned that this is the best lav system out there for indie filmmakers on a budget that I'm aware of. The flexibility that the 32 bit float gives lets you spend your time on other areas of production without having to worry if you are recording good audio. Highly recommend.

[@curtisjudd]

I appreciate your perspective. I'm hesitant to say best, but it is a useful tool for sure.

[@kurokid2441]

just sold my two sets of wireless go II...and finally got the first-round wireless go pro...thanks for the testing and now that's my turn to try them out.

[@curtisjudd]

Happy recording!

[@psysword]

How is it? Do you recommend them over the DJI mic2?

[@kurokid2441]

hi there. well, I actually have no idea how could DJI mic2 perform since I dont have them. But when it comes to Rode Wireless Go Pro..yeah, I can be sure that they just work well with my projects mostly used by teachers. Besides, I think that DJI mic2 might fix those lag problems to work better than the previous version. You know what, the biggest reason for me to give up DJI mic is that the receiver can not be mounted well on cold shoes...no matter what kind of shoes...they just dont work...always slip away...never happen with rode...so...@@psysword

[@A1Bokeh]

The fact that these record a backup makes these the best

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, nice feature.

[@stephanes.]

I put like instantly because you don’t care about watch time and you just put all the informations the viewer needs at the beggining. You’re the best

[@curtisjudd]

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[@chrisvandermeulen4579]

Hi Curtis, I've recently picked up a rode wireless pro and tried to use my Sennheiser MKE2 with it. For some reason the MKE2 requires an enormous amount of gain from the camera and\or TX to function at a reasonable level and is therefore suffering from having a lot more signal noise. Not sure if the output voltage from the TX is enough to get the best out of the mic. Even when pulling the 32 bit float audio using the Sennheiser MKE2 I can still notice a lot of hiss. Your videos are the best, Keep it up! I always come to you first for audio advice and product reviews.

[@curtisjudd]

Good to know, thanks!

[@sputnickers]

MKE2 likely requires more than 5 volts of phantom power. The RODE doesn't go higher than 5.

[@theearwyrm6105]

New to the channel. I really like that you review and talk about so many different types of equipment and price ranges. I also like that you keep your opinions professional and courteous and place emphasis on using what you have access to and going out and recording sound. Thanks for taking the time to share with us!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks! 👍

[@rickbiessman6084]

I have years of experience mixing live music and producing music. So I knew that basically all of these 2.4 GHz wireless systmes have extremely crummy frequency responses (the Wireless Pro being the only exception on the market to my knowledge). But I thought to myself: I know my way around an EQ, and I know how to denoise. So I went with the Godox Movelink II. BIG mistake. I can correct the frequency response, but what’s left is a noisy mess, even when I set the gain carefully (which, again, I know how to do). So thanks Curits for providing quality examples and even measurements. That’s invaluable in the world of audio for video, where most people on KZbin don’t have the slightest clue what they’re talking about. You’re a shining example. ;) And your in depth review convinced me that for the work I plan to do, the Wireless Pro would be a good investment. I do 100% agree on the issue of non-replaceable batteries though. This HAS to change, fast.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@DrRussell]

Inability to receive time code, transmission distance, lav quality, lack of battery replacement, I’ve decided: tentacle syncs it is. Thank you kindly for all the detailed information Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@discographetti]

Literally instant subscription because of the "BOTTOM LINE" summary at the start. holy smokes. I dont even care if your videos are good past that point- you won me over on that level of trust alone.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@DandoPorsaco-ho1zs]

The ultimate review! I've been waiting for this since this wireless system came out.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@patrickwebb1987]

Thank you, Curtis. I second that with the battery situation. I work a lot outdoors and in Norway in winter … I’ve gone through 2 sets already in the last 2 years and it annoys me a lot that I don’t have an alternative, bar from plugging in small travel banks or direct on the camera ext pwr. I was also confused , and excited, when I saw that the wireless 2 could export float … when my sound guy told me it wasn’t … I was confused. Also the buttons Menu system is also all over the place. I would like to see a wireless or Bluetooth connection to adjust on an app on the go when out on the field. Having to pull out the laptop isn’t convenient to adjust settings. So I would agree to have a more streamlined adjustment process would be better. However, this is nit picking when you get decent value for money here. Love you rode. Cheers, Curtis! 🎉

[@curtisjudd]

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[@grooveecard]

Man, I've been waiting for you to review this! I didn't want to purchase until I heard what the G.O.A.T. had to say about it! Thanks, Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@maxresdefault8330]

Outstanding job as usual. I cannot imagine laying down hard earned money on audio gear without seeing your review first. I don't know why I'm even watching this one tho, I'm happy enough with my Hollyland Lark 150 and I can't afford these.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@MichaelGAubrey]

Thanks for the review, Curtis. I've been holding out on an order until your (anticipated) review came out.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@Glen.Danielsen]

Out. Standing! As usual Curtis. Thank you for an extremely helpful, thorough review.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@monolithpoem]

I've come across your channel in the past and always had a great experience. Today you earned a sub (or rather, I was bothered to click it!). Fantastic review. you have a wonderful tone and very relaxing disposition. Thank you for this review. Extremely professional. Surgical precision with your edits. A true pro.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@justinuriahphoto]

I was waiting on your impressions before buying. Just placed my order. Thank you for putting in the time to test the new system. Looks great.

[@curtisjudd]

👍 Happy recording!

[@codyclarke]

Didn't know about the non-replaceable battery aspect, that's a deal breaker for me. Thanks for your thorough review! You saved me a lot of money.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@Buzzer9000]

Thank you Curtis for this profound review!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@UndergroundRailoadTVshowinChic]

Thanks from Chicago. I used the ( Hollyland wireless mic ). It was great, and it was easy to use. They do not have a screen display, but it works at a great price; again, it is easy to use. I love it, and the price and it is easy to use

[@curtisjudd]

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[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Finally! The only Rode Wireless Pro review we've all been waiting for.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@ericchang966]

Forgot to mention the clip system? Great review. Always appreciate your even keel perspectives!

[@curtisjudd]

Lots to cover, skipped that to keep the length reasonable, but yes, the magnetic clip system is useful.

[@derekh989]

Thank you Curtis. I've learned so much from your videos through the years-and continue to. I wonder if the definition of "Pro" is changing/evolving. When I started in video production 13ish years ago, Pro meant something that feels very different from what it means today. Today i think of Pro gear as being something that will give me an extra competitive edge in terms of being able to make money from video production. As someone who owns the Wireless Go, Wireless Go II, and now the Wireless Pro, I do feel it offers a feature set and level of quality that the other two didn’t-even though I liked them as well. But I never felt confident with either of those first two iterations as my only audio on a shoot, whereas I would with the Pro (not that I would prefer it, but I would feel confident enough).

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, if it fits what you need, it’s a great kit 👍

[@Editor905]

Great review, as always👍👍👍 I understood very well one thing after two wireless go 2 sets died on me (3,5 mm. jack on receiver after 1 year of medium use, 1 transmitter after 1 year and two months and transmitter from another pair - after 6 months during software update): these things are just useful toys. Some my colleagues have the same problems.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@UncleJimsBand]

Same brick-during-update issue happened to me. The good news is that Rode has upgraded the warranty to two years.

[@Tpazmachine]

What a comprehensive and detailed and "real life" review. Thank you for this type of content. You really give solutions to real world problems, really appreciate that.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@nicksince9487]

Curtis, you're the man. Appreciate your efforts on these videos!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@jgurtz]

Definitely seems like a great value in this space. I'm wondering if it provides plug-in power and can be used with a COS-11D or Countryman B6 or similar with the right adapter?

[@curtisjudd]

Probably works for those that don’t need more than 5V, but I’d need to test.

[@jayakarthi]

Wonderful indepth review!! This is why I watch your videos! Keep going!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@johnrohdejensen1218]

This is a BUY for me now. I were on the fence but timecode clensed it. I'm on DSLR and using Resolve Studio so it's a nice fit. I have good expirences with Røde gear and live in a country where we actually have that funky vowel in our language. :-)

[@curtisjudd]

LOL! Happy recording!

[@cyberdefenseddi]

Thanks for the review Curtis😎

[@curtisjudd]

Of course!

[@Andreas-ov2fv]

Wonderful review, as always! Shoutout to Rode for putting locking connectors for their lavs on the Wireless Pro, I didn't catch if that was mentioned. Pretty sure the Wireless GO 2 doesn't have them. For what they are, they seem pretty great. I think the biggest design shortcoming is not having any kind way of bringing in multiple sets to the same timecode. I'd love to use these for very casual round-tables without even breaking out a Rodecaster, but without being able to jam them to a common timecode, that would be a bit of a pain to sync. Granted, with the accurate clock I'd probably just have to sync the recordings once and not have to correct for drift. Maybe. But it just feels like _so close_ to ideal, it's a pity. Edit: Yeah, I know I could probably run Time of Day. But even if you sync it to the same PC with the app, you're probably not going to get frame-accurate syncs for several sets.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, we showed the locking plugs and mentioned them. And also correct, Wireless GO II did not have those. 👍

[@artisanintermedia]

You need to use a Broadcaster's Loop to attach the lavalier mic to the clip so that the pressure is sideways and not forwards - which is what made yours pop out. Thanks for a great video though as I am considering upgrading to this set. Catie

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Catie.

[@mattgray9297]

These things are wonderful. It’s so nice having 32-bit on the TX. I’ve been using them like crazy this week and I’m about to get another set. Although twice already I have had to have talent clip the TX to the outside of their pockets for better line of sight connection when outside. But still better than the original GO unit. Excellent value for a versatile system. Thanks for covering it, Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@davidarnott9740]

Excellent review - as always. Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Glad you enjoyed it👍

[@DrRussell]

Was not going to buy until you reviewed; looking forward to this review, thank you for all your work Sir!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@jasonknight1281]

Terrific review Curtis - thank you for doing it. They seem like a solid product. I'm curious about using them with better lavalier mics - COS-11D and Countryman B6? Do you think the audio quality would improve? Is that something you're planning to test out? Many thanks again.

[@curtisjudd]

I actually found the included RODE Lavalier mic to sound better on my voice than the Sanken COS-11D.

[@jasonknight1281]

Wow@@curtisjudd that is remarkable. I would never have guessed that.

[@sputnickers]

@@curtisjudd Oh my! Just the comment I was looking for. A video on this sound quality comparison would get a lot of attention. Add in another couple lavs and wo! I mean it surprises me that the only sound comparisons you ever see of the Rode Wireless Pro are with other things like the DJI. And everyone is so obsessed with transmission range, when for most of us, that is such a minor (if ever used) feature. We shoot in bars or large rooms with a number of people and booming is impossible in wide cuts etc. So sound quality is a very very big deal.

[@richardweddle3408]

Curtis, thanks for this review. Are Sennheiser ME-2 lavalier's compatible with the Rode Wireless Pro?

[@curtisjudd]

I don’t try that but in theory it should work.

[@MaineMountainMedia]

Great video and an awesome value for dollar with this system. Just got mine in last week and already loving the upgrade from the Go II system.

[@curtisjudd]

Happy recording!

[@eddyo2414]

This is what I have been waiting for. Well done

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@ShawnPark]

Curtis, great video. Where did you have your lav mounted for this video? Was it on the front of your shirt (lower and out of frame), or did you have it under your shirt?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, front of my shirt just below the frame.

[@GatesRick]

Great job as always Curtis. Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@jannarkiewicz633]

Do you have a video showing how to read the screen on the receiver? I'm learning it all (just takes time).

[@mike-ology22]

I think you've answered every single question I had. Great video and thanks for sharing

[@curtisjudd]

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[@JoshuaBelanger]

Great video break down. For indoor talking head videos, would you stick with Sennheiser AVX-MKE2 or make a move to RODE Wireless Pros?

[@curtisjudd]

I’d stick with AVX if it’s working for you.

[@cyberdefenseddi]

Excellent run down Curtis 😎

[@curtisjudd]

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[@waughcast]

Already own a Zoom F3 (w/BT module) and two Shure MX185 lavs, which I use for an outdoor podcast recorded while walking. Since used F3s are going for about 250 these days, was wondering if you think I might be better off just picking up a second F3, having each podcast participant wear one (w/separate wired lav), and syncing the tracks in post, vs investing 400 bucks in the Rode Wireless Pro. Wondering which setup might be more reliable and produce better overall sound. Also wondering if the preamps on the RWP system are as good/quiet as the F3's. Thoughts? Thanks much for all the time you invest in your vids. Super helpful. Easily some of the best and most reliable info on the Web. Blessings.

[@akram.ibrahim]

Great review, as usual!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@sputnickers]

I've enjoyed your channel for the reviews of the lavalier microphones, so this video left me a little dissapointed as you reviewed this lavalier system with barely a comment on the quality of the sound of these mics. You say at the end that they were surprisingly good, and then you spent a lot of time talking about the build quality. Where does that put someone like me who really cares about sound? How do these compare to some of your favorite lavs - say the Sennheiser MKE2 for instance?

[@curtisjudd]

Quality is one of the best for prosumer wireless.

[@KGFIQ]

BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR REVIEW!!

[@curtisjudd]

👍 We got you.

[@rolandd4291]

This is a GREAT review. I love Rode stuff but their kit often has major flaws over quite simple issues. The original Rode Lavalier had a clip that simply fell apart. The Rode Lavalier II has a clip that can not be replaced! Rode does not list spare clips for the LavII and I have yet to find a satisfactory 3rd party replacement (and clips do get lost and broken). Not being able to change batteries means for a long days shoot you need a second set as back-up. I have the Rode Wireless GOII and although it is great in many ways (particularly on board record) I keep coming back to my Sennheiser G3 with a Tram TR50 (old school, I know, but it's never let me down). Yes it's issues like this - not the audio quality - that keeps Rode out of the pro category. (And if anyone has found a replacement for the LavII clip, please let me know!).

[@curtisjudd]

The little things matter.

[@Mike0193Azul]

Fantastic review as always! 💚 Wondering, since I have not been able to tell from the spec sheet, does this pro model support port pro lavalier mics that require more voltage? Such as the DPA 4060 which needs a plug-in operating voltage of 5v to 10v 🤔🎙️

[@curtisjudd]

Not sure.

[@darrendayrealestate]

The sound on this video was excellent. Were you using this mic as discussed. the rhode pro?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, the Wireless Pro 👍

[@GwynCole]

Another fantastic and useful product review! Thank You!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@mondotv4216]

I agree 100% Curtis. The first question I asked (and credit to Rode they answered in a YT FAQ) is can you jam the receiver to another timecode source and the answer is no. So, while I love Rode as a company, I think the use of the word "Pro" is a little liberal as the only device in your chain that can be a master is the Rode and at the moment it won't broadcast to a Tentacle Sync or a Deity TC-1. Hopefully the clocks on those disparate devices won't drift too much as they are all supposed to be highly accurate but ideally you'd love it if all devices would talk to each other over BT.

[@curtisjudd]

You can jam the other devices to the Wireless Pro, so that’s 1/2 the game, I suppose.

[@fransv1398]

Thank you Curtis for the very good review. When I look at the graph at 4:20 and 16:48 I think that despite 32 bit, the audio is still clipped. Was the maximum SPL of the microphone exceeded or was there some other reason?

[@DrRussell]

I’m sure there were a very small portion of some clipped waveforms but still would be far better than 24bit. Given the massive dynamic range of 32 bit float (I’m sure I recall seeing 700+dB) the mic is inevitably the limiting factor.

[@curtisjudd]

That was a mistake - wrong clip shown. That clip had been heavily compressed in post. The 32-bit float is fine for spoken word audio.

[@fransv1398]

@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis. Nice that the cause is clear and that it is not in the wireless pro system.

[@Mr.C0ffee]

Great video! How would you fix the latency?

[@curtisjudd]

In most cases the latency isn’t a problem because it is so small. So generally, no fix needed.

[@AT-js6py]

Another great and honest review, calm collected, to the point. Always look forward to your review with regards to sound devices and sound related. Like a benchmark for sound review. Thanks Curtis. Keep up the great work. Really appreciate it. Btw been watching your reviews for years now !

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks so much!

[@AT-js6py]

@@curtisjudd how do you manage to get such great sound for your video ? Do you have a video on that ? Tq

[@curtisjudd]

@@AT-js6py We have a bunch of videos covering that on the channel and several courses over at school.learnlightandsound.com

[@AT-js6py]

@@curtisjuddtq noted

[@michaelunderhill5007]

Thank you for the helpful review!

[@curtisjudd]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JustinPulitzerTrades]

Has the Firmware update adding in Low Cut made any significant difference?

[@DuncanDimanche-sreview]

awesome review as usual! I just got mine today and I'm excited to be able to test them out

[@curtisjudd]

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[@chrisbennett5796]

I too, wish Rode would not make their transmitters so shiny. I can recommend covering the front with high quality matte gaffer tape. The stuff I use comes off without any residue, even after months of use. It can be used to hide the light too, which is sometimes useful, but can be distracting.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@gamedesign1]

Thanks for the video. Been thinking of getting this system and I’m convinced now that it’s right for me. 👍😊

[@curtisjudd]

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[@gamedesign1]

@@curtisjudd bought it 👍😊 Great so far, thanks again 👍

[@kylelowe]

Just got my set and love it!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@mikemikha]

Thanks for the review. What wireless systems do they use on professional sets? This is geared more towards videographers and content creators

[@curtisjudd]

Lectrosonics, Zaxcom, Sound Devices, Wisycom, and a few others.

[@loganwelch3561]

Loved this video. Im struggling to find more information in regards to the latest firmware update that includes High Pass Filter. Is there any information you could provide with that?! Thank you!

[@curtisjudd]

I have version 1.2.8 installed. What are you looking to learn?

[@focuspulling]

Great review; I'm also asking RODE to allow configuration via the software for a "God mode" ability to disable the buttons on the transmitters from stopping recordings, which would function like the lock switch (that by now, can't be added as hardware) on other 32-bit float lav recorders. Agree completely about the mirror finish, though at least the logo receded a bit from stark white into subtlety.

[@kanaloaproductions]

Hi, this is possible on the Rode Wireless 2 system (just route no function to the buttons) - hope/quiet sure that it is the same here

[@curtisjudd]

They should be able to make that assignable to the RX RODE logo button, I'd think.

[@luissinsin]

I have (2) Wireless Pro Systems. Two things they should add are these. #1- A way to to Jam Sync Timecode from an external device or at the very least, a way to Sync 2 or more receivers to each other. #2 - A Timecode Mode where Left channel outputs Transmitter 1, Right channel outputs Transmitter 2, and the USB can output or input Timecode. This would make these units infinitely better. I would hope these can be achieved via firmware.

[@curtisjudd]

Good ideas.

[@jasonknight1281]

Hey Curtis - I’m quite torn between this product and the considerably more expensive Deity Theos system - so was wondering if and/or when you might be doing a review of the Theos system?

[@curtisjudd]

Just received it and working on a review right now.

[@jasonknight1281]

Legend!!@@curtisjudd

[@DannyNagymusic]

I am looking for a reliable wireless mic actually for weddings and events. Got a cheap one that seemed fine until I was recording internally then I noticed it missed a few seconds of audio. Like it would be in synch for a little bit then a glitch happened and now suddenly it’s a slightly bit out of synch. Odd, I have to return it and get something that is reliable. Great review !

[@curtisjudd]

Wireless or recorder? Recorders are generally more reliable and this Wireless PRO does both.

[@mlatief5865]

Exellent review. Very helpful. Thanks

[@curtisjudd]

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[@Videosbyme278]

Hi Curtis, great breakdown. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my zoom H1n and rode mic recorder. I do a lot of documentary talking head videos, and I'm in between the Sennheiser AVX MKE2 Mic setup and the Rode Pro. The 32 bit float seems pretty huge, not to mention the price difference of 600 USD between them. Is the Sennheiser worth the extra money? If you didn't have either of them, all things considered for documentary work which one would you go with? Thanks again!

[@curtisjudd]

If I had the budget, I'd go with the Sennheiser.

[@Videosbyme278]

@@curtisjudd aren't they both susceptible to dropouts since they both rely on line of sight with their wifi based signals? Is 1.9ghz that much more reliable than 2.4ghz? Would love your thoughts. I guess I'm hesitant to pay 1000 USD for the Sennheiser and still have reliability issues. Thanks so much Curtis love your content!

[@curtisjudd]

@@Videosbyme278 Wireless systems are always susceptible to dropouts, even high-end UHF systems where you can tune to different frequencies. If you must have one that is simple to setup and doesn't require finding a frequency and you'll be working primarily indoors, I found the AVX to be very good. 1.9GHz generally has less competing traffic from devices in 2023 so that's part of my thinking. Then the audio quality of the AVX system was excellent in my tests.

[@Videosbyme278]

@@curtisjudd Thanks for the info Curtis, however, majority of my interview work is outdoors in the field. I don't typically get too far away from my subjects, think the AVX is still the way to go or something more like the g4s/Sony UWP? I definitely love the form factor of the AVX the most

[@curtisjudd]

@@Videosbyme278 If you're within 3 or 4 meters, the AVX should be great.

[@FramingReality]

Great review, as always. You are my to go sound reviewer :) I'm curious, what's the app you're using at 16:22?

[@curtisjudd]

KZbin app playing back one of my lighting videos.

[@Whaever_1981]

At bild expo I was told a firmware update will enable for these to be jam-synced to external timecode boxes

[@curtisjudd]

Cool. Excited to see that.

[@DuncanDimanche-sreview]

did you forget to record straight into the transmitter or did I miss it ? I looked twice

[@curtisjudd]

The main talking head audio was all recorded to the transmitter.

[@lorenz_paulus]

Thanks for this great review! I quite like the sound from the lav mics that are included. But given how bulky they are, I can’t imagine how I’d hide them on speakers?

[@curtisjudd]

They're not terribly bulky. We've had pretty good luck hiding them so far, though all the regular lav hiding challenges still exist.

[@NR-rv8rz]

I read somewhere that the audio captured on the transmitter is better quality or has some feature the transmitter to camera lacks? Also, it's a pity the only option is the entire pack because I would like to be able to buy a Rode Wireless Pro transmitter only and just use the buttons to set it off then upload the voice audio to my video editor to sync with my video. That way I could spend £100 here in the UK instead of £370.

[@curtisjudd]

It is 32-bit float whereas the camera recording is not.

[@NR-rv8rz]

So why would anyone ever bother with the receiver? I don't get it. Using a receiver gives a danger of losing signal and having broken audio and you lose the 32-bit float Surely it's just better to use the audio from the transmitters and sync it up in editing? What benefit does the receiver confer other than splicing the audio with the video in real time and saving the sync job in the video editing software? I emailed Rode yesterday to ask if I could just by one single Pro transmitter as that's all I need and they got back to me saying they don't offer than but they offer the Rode II one as a stand alone transmitter for that purpose. The only thing I would really need other than one transmitter would be some attachments and maybe a lav. Pity they don't have an a la carte system. @@curtisjudd

[@curtisjudd]

@@NR-rv8rz One MASSIVE benefit of transmitting the sound to the receiver is that the camera operator or sound person can monitor the sound in real-time. This allows you to identify any issues with the sound - clothing rustle or perhaps the transmitter battery has run out or something else has happened. This is a HUGE advantage so that you don't lose an entire shoot because the audio was not good. If you hear there's a problem WHILE recording, you can often stop and fix the issue and then start the recording again.

[@NR-rv8rz]

Thanks, it makes sense in general. However, I'm gonna be a lone wolf so I'll be using a shotgun mic at home for filming stationary with a Sony ZV-1, but when I do some talks walking around my apartment, cooking in the kitchen and going hill walked and talking to the camera, I'll be using my phone on a hand held gimble/tripod. I'll address the phones 4k camera while I walk and sometimes set the gimble down and be stationary and talk. In that scenario, I'll always use the phones audio capture as a backup and as I've decided to by the whole Rode Wireless Pro kit, I'll probably have both transmitters recording for redundancy. I mean, now I think of that, I might as well plug the receiver into the phone instead of using the phone mic. Also, I'm planning to get either the Hohem iSteady M6 or the DJI Osmo Mobile 6 gimble. I think I prefer the Hohem one but it doesn't telescope out like the DJI. The DJI has a weight limit almost identicle to the weight of my Sony ZV-1 so I'm wondering if I can get away with using that with the DJI gimble. The Hohem gimble has a far higher weight limit at 400g so could easily bear the ZV-1 weight. If neither can then I'll have to just use my phone when I'm out and about. To be honest, I'm currently doing tests with my old Pixel 3XL 4k capture in outside daylight and the ZV-1 and I don't have that great an eye because I can't see a massive advantage to the ZV-1 footage. Thought it was very overcast and dark in Yorkshire, UK today so will be sunny tomorrow and I'll try again. I will also do the capture in portrait mode on both so that I can display the video side by side on the same monitor because my three monitor setup isn't colour calibrated so I can't use different monitors simultaneously to compare. Thanks for engaging. @@curtisjudd

[@arhon888]

Thanks for sharing. Would you say the Wireless Pro's sound quality and preamps are better than the Go II?

[@curtisjudd]

Slightly better, yes

[@miguelducos]

Same thing happened to me recording a Pod Cast. I had one subject with no audio, same issue with the mic connector, I thought it was securely locked but it came off and the audio wasn’t captured:

[@curtisjudd]

👎

[@ScoobieDee]

Thanks for this Curtis, I think I am gonna upgrade and sell my wireless go 2 for these. The wireless go 2 have not been perfect but they have been super useful in many jobs that I have done, where I just need a light weight ready to go radio mic and I can re run a take if a problem occurs. I also use the go 2 system professionally into my sound bag, but only as channel 5/6 ambient mics that I am not really monitoring but are useful for foley, that said I have been caught out in the past as the wireless go 2 has only 100 db max SPL and this is not enough especially when recording ambient sound peaks from machiney or a car. I have heard that the Pro's now has 130 db which is much better for me and something many reviewers have not mentioned .. I don't know about these lav mic's that come with the set, but glad to hear you think they are ok , would heave been good to hear your thoughts on how the mic isolate the sound source , by this I mean are they like the Cos 11's of more like the DPA's with a wider field and if so how well they define a vocal source.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks. I didn't realize that the Sanken and DPA omni-directional lavaliers responded differently in terms of polar pattern.

[@leochow6477]

Hey Curtis thanks for this amazing review. Speaking of 32-bit float, did it work with external input? I use my wireless go ii TX with videomic NTG frequently and I'd like to know if I connect my NTG to wirelss pro TX, will I get the unclip audio as well?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes.

[@Nickporter17]

You're the best as always. Thanks for the review.

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@matthewrennie5163]

Hi Curtiss. I'm a big fan of your channel. Clearly a lot of work goes into your reviews of audio gear and I really appreciate how comprehensive they are. I was wondering if you (or anyone else reading this) might be able to help with a question I have about both this Rode Wireless Pro system as well as the DJI Mic 2. Can you transfer onboard 32-bit float files from the TX to an iPhone 15 Pro (which is equipped with a 10GBs USB-C port) by just connecting them directly by USB-C cable, and viewing the files on the TX just like any other external drive? Rode's support tell me no (although one of their videos suggests otherwise) as the phone can't provide enough power. I asked if connecting both TX and phone to a usb-c hub with power would solve the issue, but was told that iOS devices still don't have the supported system to access the files. I would really appreciate it if someone with either the Rode or DJI system and a new iPhone 15/Pro/Max could test to double check. I don't really understand why it can be done with a PC but not the new iPhone 15 Pro's with their flexible new USB-C connection. The online user guide says that the only the desktop version of the Rode Central app allows to export on-board recordings on the TX, but it would be great if someone is able to double-check that too. The reason I ask, is I am in the process of building a video rig around the iPhone 15 Pro and will be doing all post-production on the phone too. Pushing that expensive phone as far as it will go!

[@curtisjudd]

I’m still on an iPhone 14 Pro. 😞

[@M0LLER75]

Hi great review! If you put gaffer tape over the receiver don’t you think it will reduce the WiFi signal and the distance so it will destroy the sound quality?

[@curtisjudd]

I'm not worried about the logo on the receiver. On the transmitter, gaffer's tape doesn't seem to create any degradation in transmission that I've been able to detect.

[@hillsandmore1093]

So just to be clear ( very big newbie here ) I run Rode Go2's and run my receiver into iphone14pro. Im having clipping issues so considering the PRO's but with pros when i record directly into iphone i only get 24 bit UNLESS i export and separately add 32 bit audio file ? Cheers for you videos btw, well laid out 👌

[@curtisjudd]

That’s correct.

[@TerenceKearns]

Nice product. Great review as always.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@MikeO01]

Hello Curtis, is worth the effort quality wise, to replace the audio from the video of the receiver, (profited there is no dropout or interference) with the internal 32bit recording in post?

[@curtisjudd]

Use your ears to make that judgement. If you can't tell a difference, your audience most likely cannot.

[@curtisjudd]

Also, 32-bit float audio recordings do NOT sound better, they just potentially have more headroom in case things get louder than expected. So you're not getting more fidelity from the 32-bit float recording on the transmitter.

[@tyleradams3490]

Whoa just realized I wasn't subscribed. Been enjoying your videos for a long time :)

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@firstlastfilm]

Great as always

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@tonyhailstone]

Issues I've come across: 1. The record button on transmitter can be too easily activated. This could mean recordings stop (if they are set to manual) or will split (if set to Always Record) if your client accidentally touches it. There really needs to be a way to disable the button 2. The units automatically turn on when taken out of the charging case. This is annoying if set to "Always Record" as it'll create a file when you might just be taking them out to use later (or just checking them). If you don't spot that recording has started and return it to the case, it'll just keep recording. 3. Nasty popping sound at the beginning of every recording 4. Rode Central doesn't keep any renamed files on export, it will revert to the original name

[@curtisjudd]

All fair points. 👍

[@hpvalverde]

Hi Curtis, great video, as usual. Is this kind of mic ever worth plugging into a recorder, like a Zoom F4? I usually work with a shotgun boom in addition to lavs, but apart from getting a consolidated output, would a recorder improve the lavs' preamps in any way?

[@curtisjudd]

Only if your camera has particularly noisy preamps.

[@wayneknetter]

Does the distance change when you sync with the Rodecaster. Is it better or worse?

[@MK-Tech]

Thank you so much for another fantastic video🎉

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@kencccgs]

Great job as always on the review and you definitely answer allot of question i have for wireless go pro, hopefully you will get to test delity theos, that's something on my list, definitely waiting for your review on that. :)

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@dmitryy2199]

Thanks Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

You bet!

[@Whaever_1981]

Is the practical noise floor worse than on the previous wireless go II (-70dB RMS Max)? I'd assume the Wireless PRO has the same or better noise floor if tested with more advanced lav mics, such as the Sanken Cos 11d (as opposed to the one's that come with the Wireless PRO that you did the test on). Anyway, thanks a million for this fantastic informative video!!! 😀😀😀

[@curtisjudd]

The practical noise floor samples differ some, and are often a measure of dynamic range, self-noise, and frankly, the sound in the space where I record which is not always exactly the same. It is merely a point in time measurement of where the noise floor sat when I made a recording and did my best to control all the noise. Also, the Sanken COS-11D is NOT a quiet microphone. It's self-noise spec is actually quite high.