Custom Hose Barbs

This was a fairly simple project to make some fairly simple parts for a supporter of the channel, so I decided to take the opportunity to see just how long it takes me to turn something like custom hose barb adapters on the lathe, start to finish.
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[@user-hv6of1pe6d]

Almost everyone can buy it, only a few can make it with their own hands. Love your videos!

[@ollysworkshop]

I know that feeling of ”why am I so slow ", nice to know it's not just me! 👍

[@Tom-xn7zc]

The searching for the caliper is so recognizable!

[@EBastler]

That's why I have at least 3 calipers in every room of my workshop 😅

[@JeremyMakesThings]

That’s my approach with tape measures. Still can’t find them.

[@Tom-xn7zc]

@@EBastler Same, but still I forget where I use them and then I grab another one until they are all gone and I have to go on a easter egg hunt around the shop.

[@208Concepts]

I'm still not sure where my house calipers went 🤣

[@waynesinden]

I normally look in the last place first. But that's just me.

[@QuebecLimaCharlie]

So true. I made a brass nut for my pool filter housing last week. Only took me 5 beers.

[@richardsudworth1200]

“A guy with a moderate idea of what he’s doing” - that sounds like me on one of my better days in the workshop😂

[@RotarySMP]

Wow, your five minute jobs are way faster than my 5 minute jobs:) Nice one. I also got sick of camera batteries, and use a Sony NP-F 970 on a battery plate, with a dummy battery in the camera. Normally lasts through all but the longers filming sessions.

[@JeremyMakesThings]

To be fair, I didn’t include the part where I striped on of the bolts that hold the compound onto the lathe (when I was setting up for the last taper!). I’ve already done a video on that repair, so it doesn’t count on the time for this project, right? I’ve been meaning to hard wire in a power source for the camera and light, I just haven’t gotten around to it because I’ll have to run another 120v line across the shop. #northamericanproblems

[@RotarySMP]

@@JeremyMakesThings Shed wiring is never finished is it. I need to do a bunch more single phase, and a couple more 3Ph sockets, plus some ethernet cable and RJ45's.

[@jdmccorful]

The fact that you took the time to figure it out and complete it makes it a learned skill. Good on you!Thanks for the look.

[@edo8697]

Retired professional Tool, Die and Mold Maker-current Hobbyist.. Professionally: "engineering" and lathe work- 1/2 hour plus lunch or coffee break, to make several 15 minutes each. The tooling (form cutter) for a screw machine - 1 to 2 hours to wire burn for carbide tipped blank. then 1 to 2 minutes cycle time in machine. CNC lathe: 3 to 5 minutes each after programming. I my garage hobby shop- you easily made as good of time as I would have. BTW, In general, fittings are brass because it is fast machining and low tool wear. on another subject, I buy every set of calipers at garage sales I find- 10 sets or so, and I still loose them...

[@oldmetalmachines2094]

Who cares how much time it takes. You learn something and get to use the machines that make you happy. BUT I agree with other poster that my 5 minute jobs always take up most of the day.

[@jfa3019]

It takes me a similar amount of time to make parts like that, always longer than I think it should take. The setup is what takes the most time, so the first one is always slowest.

[@edkeniston4786]

That is a instance where CNC makes financial sense if you’re making 100 of them. What everyone needs to remember, time is money. You’re going to spend 4 hrs driving around the North Country/ NE Kingdom trying to find them, then you’re going to spend 2-3 hrs on the computer trying to find them. So in all honesty they are worth $200 a piece. You maybe could buy them for $10 a piece if it was a production run, those are getting fewer and fewer. Your mentality is correct, a friend needs it or I need it, so just do it. Life doesn’t have to fit a preprescibed formula, it just has to work. Keep doing what you do!

[@sequoyah59]

I spent about an hour all-in making a barb fitting for the water pump just two days ago. I made it from some thick wall tube that just happened to be right to begin work. It was rough but worked. I made it because the new owners of the local lumber yard decided to no longer stock over 3/4" barb fitting for use with Poly Pipe. If I had needed to thread it I would have needed another hour or more. One-off anything just takes a lot of time. Practice makes things faster fast. You look in your drawers in disbelief like i do. Good to not be alone. Got to do something about the mess and all the junk in the drawers. I usually call dimensions like this to the nearest logical number unless it just has to fit something. Drop cloths make good covers against sawdust in a shared shop with wood tools. Hope your digital calipers last longer than mine. i finally gave up and went to just dial calipers. Custom has to be expensive. Clean-up and pick-up takes a long time and I always find something else that needs attention..

[@5tr41ghtGuy]

I've made several parts with hose barbs. Unless the item is very easy to find commercially, it's just faster and cheaper to make it yourself.

[@TBJK07Jeep]

It is all in the experience level, how efficient they are at things & if people are looking over your shoulder. I’ve made stuff because the factory part was 4 months out. The first few ways I did that one, I used the parts/process they used to make it..When it kept breaking, I made it out of 1 piece of 4140 & cut the gear directly into it. That machining the full piece took 5-6 hours complete with the 37 tooth gear. In the end of things, as long as you enjoy it, does it matter how long it took. I personally enjoy machining, It gives me a satisfaction & enjoyment of how to make something from a piece of nothing.

[@OhHeyTrevorFlowers]

On a CNC lathe that has my usual tool setup dialed it would take me maybe 30 minutes for CAM and then maybe 5 minutes to cut each part. If I have to set up the tools that adds another 10 to 15 minutes. Getting the dimensions and deciding what to cut usually takes longer than the rest, at least for parts that can be cut this quickly.

[@kempoxp2]

on my cnc lathe you have to write in gcode the whole thing cuz usb doesnt work. and don't forget the time to make it to perfect dimensions

[@OhHeyTrevorFlowers]

@@kempoxp2 Yeah, if I had to write the gcode it would take more time than cutting two parts on a manual. CAM makes all the difference for fast turnaround parts.

[@rallymax2]

I feel like you did it faster than I would. I would have sipped on my coffee and stared at it longer, just enjoying being in the shop. I also know I would have spent far more time chasing it to tenths for absolutely no reason. I will add that watching you in this one, and seeing a wide shot of your entire garage had a very familiar feeling. I started to make a KZbin channel (see my vise rebuild) but the time it takes to setup the shots and do the post production eventually got in the way of finishing one darn thing so I stopped. I'm hoping to pick it up on the Precision Matthews vertical engine kit though (the one Quinn made) and the die filer kit (also Quinn made). Great to see a video, Edward

[@nogoodnametochoose]

One tool I love for making step size adapters is to use a hose crimper and swage some thick wall tubing to slightly larger than the smaller size of hose bead. Then turning the large hose bead and small hose bead without needing to bore or drill the ID. Works great and is about a 10-15 min job.

[@mooreevair]

ah the hunt for calipers. usually where you last left them 😊

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Always! (Remind me where that was again?)

[@RB-yq7qv]

Hi Jeremy. Now a little organization will cut down the time for jobs. Love the work

[@guye7763]

A very interesting video. Nice to see you quantify something many of us have pondered.

[@jdsstegman]

You forgot the 20 cups of coffee and going to the bathroom 6 times. And getting interrupted by customers!

[@777Melin]

As a machinist myself I'd say, yes that was slow, but you figured it out and now you know how to do it, next time it's not going to take that long, You did good. I also love that you helped someone out, people don't know how hard some stuff is to buy.. but why did you take your own measurements if the 'customer' already provided you measurements? That's a time loss.. anyway, thanks for the video and good luck!

[@Paulman50]

I make bits like that, don't realy know why though. Better than driving into town, I guess.

[@kenknight4560]

Excellent video and point. Another method, mostly for auto cooling systems, is proper OD alum. tubing and a bead roller to make the barb. You do have to make the die, a couple of hour project it you have a lathe.

[@MrCrazyChemist]

Often it's the hassle of having to get out of the workshop to the store and back or waiting some days on a part I could order online that makes me make it myself.

[@smallshoptalk589]

Oh Boy, this is going to be good. Thanks.

[@Cyruscosmo]

You are spot on. It would take me about the same time for the first part as figuring out what tools to use and setup will take the longest. Once you are set up and have made your first part, then you refine the process, and Bob is your uncle. Unfortunately, I get the same questions as most people who have the tools to make custom parts... Why does it cost so much I can get that part on Amazon for Blah Blah Blah... I just tell um that if you don't understand the cost for a custom part then you have absolutely no clue what it takes to make one.

[@homemadetools]

Good work. Sometimes it's easier just to make these than to go to the hardware store. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

[@jimsvideos7201]

I'll have to try this myself, seeing as we have the drawing to work from.

[@aaronfritz7234]

Well at least I’m not the only person who makes a test part or two.

[@user-jk2gx4dz5g]

Have been doing some of these for my own needs on the farm. It was for a seed oil pump and it took me roughly the same time. Maybe I hade an advantage because I found my calipers quickly 😂

[@ErikBongers]

It took me exactly one hour to make a 60mm OD, 4 mm thick plastic washer out of a black polyethylene kitchen cutting board. This was done on a very small Sherline lathe and I had to take light cuts because the plastic was really flexible. Still, I was surprised it took so long because this plastic cut like butter. An hour for a washer...imagine that... Ah, also something I just thought of...a very simple part may take as much time to setup as a complex one. Tool changes, measuring, clean up, etc... are pretty much fixed time.

[@jamiemacdonald436]

I run a small job shop that generally produces runs of 20 - 100 piece orders. I don't intentionally turn jobs like this away, but quoting them in a manor that will not put us out of business generally winds up walking the customer. I don't like to do it to someone, and occasionally when the workload is light we are able to accommodate a budget, but that isn't very often.

[@warrenjones744]

So one of the aspects of my repair business is to build one off, obsolete, non available or otherwise difficult to source parts. Reverse engineering and sorting out the order of operations takes time. If you have to build a fixture or jig add more time. Then finding the tools or discovering you don't have that one tool you need takes even more time. Getting distracted by something shiney over there is a real time vampire! So unless conditions were perfect and Jupiter aligned with Mars etc... I think you did well Jeremy. It almost never goes as fast as you think it should even for the seasoned veteran. Of course some people are perfect and will tell you otherwise, but that's a different story. Cheers.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Mine probably take about 45 minutes each these days but I have the angles figured now and I’ve only used brass and the metal that’s only available in the US, aluminum😂 I’m sure s/steel would take me longer. The first four that I made took considerably longer especially when I only needed two. Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺

[@LittleAussieRockets]

Those cannon batteries never last as long as you'd like. I ended up buying an adapter that enabled me to plug it into the wall. I've never looked back, the lead is a little bit annoying. But less annoying than running out of battery and losing the footage.

[@thehobbymachinistnz]

Even making small basic parts can take some time. I know exactly what you mean by spending time on design and figuring it all out before you start machining. I seem to spend a lot of time on that part with my builds. But, that is not a bad thing as you usually get a finished product that works well first time and does not need any modifications. Good work.

[@Cjarka_]

Me ,as a student, I would say about an hour for the first one and half that for the next ones Tho I only really worked on a big lathe so that would speed it up compared to your machine. I have done something similar and with the measuring, drawing, explaining to a friend who was making a second one how to do it, getting tools and setting up a machine it took us about and hour and some change total Larger amount of parts would shrink the time per part ofc as you get into a rythm and that way we made 30 parts in 3 hours, they were simple rods with the middle narrowed but the raw stock was 3 meter rods so we didn't have a better way how to cut them other than the hacksaw xD which ofc increased the time slightly.

[@HexenzirkelZuluhed]

This is why I now have 2 calipers at every machine...

[@ironhead65]

I’m somewhat guessing, as my way back machine is not finding the information, but I turned a custom adapter to hook a dishwasher into a slop sink. The sink had a garden hose thread and the dishwasher had that ultra fine kitchen sink thread. Made an adapter, probably took in the 1-2 hour range. Probably would have been faster if I had Anchor Lube! 😊 Probably also would have been faster if I had better thread measuring tooling.

[@Bob_Jones_]

looks like you got yourself about $180 worth of fittings there :)

[@mad1337nes]

Double that, this isn't 1980 anymore pops.

[@coplandjason]

Interesting vid Jeremy, I think you're not slow, I've recently made some similar items, also in SS and it took me about an hour per item with measuring, mucking it up, restarting and so on.

[@Andrew_Fernie]

Seems like a standard time. I recently spent all afternoon and half the evening at the mill and by the end I had drilled 4 holes. (In 2 conrods) The next two I do will be a five minute job. So probably an hour. Plus half an hour finding the fixtures.

[@JoeB-pv8su]

Two lifetimes!

[@OhHeyTrevorFlowers]

I picked a sample of Anchor lube at the bar-z-bash and despite the gross color it’s really good stuff. Can’t judge a lube by its color, I guess.

[@gofastwclass]

Ironic, I recently made a hose block off for myself and I spent more time setting it up than I did machining. I probably had an hour in both parts, but didn't record any of it because the cameras were in the house. My tools are more organized so that saved time and I deal with automotive stuff as my primary hobby so I knew how critical the dimensions needed to be.

[@mesikamoto]

Im mainly working on cnc machines. I think I would take me about 30 min to figure out the geometry and make drawings. An hour to setup and program the cnc machine. Actual cycle time for something like this would be less than 2 minutes. So total about 1,5-2hours.

[@pddpup7767]

your not slow, this stuff takes a lot of time

[@kelvinmears2759]

I guess how long it will take. Reality is - for simple parts, about double the guess, more complex parts take at least 3 times the original guess. Plus looking for the caliper time of course.

[@troycooper3513]

If you want to see more.... stick around IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE.... STICK AROUND

[@ferrumignis]

You only ended up with one part you weren't happy with (but was still entirely functional) so I'm already well behind 😂

[@nerdslikeus6690]

I would have just 3d printed one lol

[@-GreeferGames]

Hey, new subscriber here. Loved the video had to do something similar a year ago. What lathe is that? It looks similar to the one i run (H. Leach machinery lathe). Im just wondering if they are similar enough to get some info to fix mine. With kindest regards -A TiredMachinist

[@JeremyMakesThings]

It’s a Logan model 200

[@camillosteuss]

The hose barb would be a great setup piece... You set up the lathe with stops and shit, especially if you have a revolver lathe with dual toolposts... You could spit out half a dozen per hour... That is the greatest problem with custom work... One piece takes a while to make, the others take less as you know the parameters, but if you have the machine set up or have a specialized machine set up, you can crank those out like nothing... Hell, an automatic cam operated lathe with a bar feeder could likely spit out 80 of those per hour... A modern cnc with a bar feeder would likely do even better, especially if you used d.o.m. seamless thick walled tubing, where the only operation would be external diameter work... Having to predrill, drill and/or bore out the core is a waste of time, especially if you are running a manual lathe which doesnt even have a revolver attachment for the tailstock or a revolver toolpost... Say 2.5mm wall thickness seamless inox tube on an automatic lathe or a cnc variant thereof... You could crank 120 or more barbs without issue every hour... The worst issue would be getting high grade quality inox specialized carbide inserts for the machine and keeping up with surface finish and performance as the inserts wear with such a high production rate... But a good video! As always, most enjoyable... I rewatched your rotary table series at least 12 times by now, just as with the mini vise video and a few others... My regular go-to`s when i am in need of motivation and inspiration... This vid is a bit too short to be a go-to for inspiration, but it will be rewatched a few times, im sure of that...

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Have you ever seen (or heard of) the Bullard Mult-au-matic? It was 6 or 8 lathes (maybe 10” swing?) set up vertically, and the spindles would index around the machine, so it could do 6 or 8 operations at once, one operation on each part. So the time it took to make a part was only as long as the slowest operation- which very well may have been unloading and loading it. Very cool concept. Though I imagine it could take a day to get it set up for making a part, so for a one-off part, it’s probably not the way to go. 😆

[@camillosteuss]

@@JeremyMakesThings No, never heard of it... At lest not specifically that lathe, but i have seen wicked vert. lathes, as well as horizontal ones, be they multi spindle or multi axis/toolpost... But true, any such elaborate setup lathe is again demanding anywhere from an hour to a whole day or even more to fully set up... I have an cnc variant of an autolathe which has dual toolposts in the carriage(which isnt a carriage), a headstock mounted 3rd toolpost, a carriage with an automatic indexing revolver(6 holes) and an auto-chuck(pneu collet closer)... The only thing i lack is a bar feeder, but i am turning her into a project, and i really dont run any production that would even remotely have use of a bar feeder... I`m also picking up a cnc variant of an autolathe in a week or two that has twin ``main`` ways, so you can have any number of crazy attachments... She also has the headstock mounted toolpost, an autochuck, a revolver and so on, but its a vastly different configuration from the one that is actually in my shop waiting for me to lay my greasy fingers on her shy parts... But yeah, any work that doesnt already have a jig or a known setup ready will take a while, regardless of the machine or the part itself... As said, the best course of action for this part would have been a seamless 2.5-3mm wall thickness inox round tube... That would have made things quicker by eliminating some work, but other than that, aint no way to really cut on time in general... And its not like that in itself is a good thing, as cutting time almost always means cutting down on number of steps you have to make to finish a part, and when that turns into negligence of the machines, well, that is just a shooting yourself in the foot kinda deal... All the best and kindest regards! Steuss

[@sfogarty2]

I would definitely have spend at least another 30-60 minutes on scrapped parts. 😆

[@mikebroom1866]

I always say, if I could have a superpower, it would be to summon the calipers like Thor. I lose them immediately.

[@kennethelwell8574]

Probably could've taken half the machine time as your last part each. In a slightly larger lathe, with a bunch of that time by having a LH and RH tool in dedicated holders for the QCTP, instead of moving the tool post around or changing out tools. Maybe a tool that cuts at 15 degrees, instead of the compound? because let's be real about the tolerances for a hose fitting! You called it a "one-off" but really it was 2 (3?) and every time you adjust tools, settings, operations, can be a time killer if you make each part start to finish, rather than "batching" the job. Do all the turning or drilling at once, do the all the tapers... on all parts before switching operations. For two parts, that can be flip the bar around! If a test part helps figure out what/how you make the real one, then an easier to machine material saves time (and saves the "just enough" piece of stock for the job)

[@andrewhufer3286]

As you said, it's a hobby. Why rush?

[@nickwheeler8231]

That's no excuse to be inefficient. Unless the hobby is mooching about the workshop making pretty piles of swarf.

[@34k5]

10:21 that’s how long

[@robertschmidt6383]

You should get organized.

[@Hichamhasan]

I've been working on my 5 minutes job for couple of years 🙄

[@RB-yq7qv]

Hi Jeremy. For me it's not about the money. I do not charge my friends or family for jobs you see when I need something that they are very good at they just jump in and help. Time invested into good friends and family pays more then a few dollars.

[@belatoth3763]

I noticed a mistake. Every time when a youtuber uses deburring tool must be said: ...with my NOGA deburring tool...And you missed it 😂

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Mine is a knockoff, but I’ll be sure to point that out next time. 😆

[@sparkiekosten5902]

1 hour to make a part 5 hours cleaning up my crap even before getting started. And 5 hours is being conservative! A further 2 hours sharpening various tools just to do the job because I abused them last project. Mustn't forget the time it will take me to set up the lathe because I was cutting an mt2 taper so my tailstock is out. Also sharpening my drill bits didn't go so well so now I have a few extra parts because my stainless steel work hardened and is now basically useless. At this stage I am basically looking on Ebay for a part I can butcher to make my job work! All this is to say this job is something I wanted for myself so I learned long ago to reject any job for someone else. Needless to say I am a lousy machinist so I take heart in coming to youtube and looking at how the experts do stuff! Meantime I have a dozen or so jobs sitting waiting for me to finish them! Enough of my babble or I will really need to see a Physiatrist! On the upside my wife called me a sex machine.....The words she used were "you're a f@#cking tool"..... but I knew what she meant!

[@nkelly.9]

And you didn't include the time of sourcing/supplying the stock material....... This is the reality of one off machining.

[@JeremyMakesThings]

So the backstory on that is I bid $24 on a “lot of assorted metal” on an online blacksmith shop auction. It was A LOT of assorted metal, in the scale of I got $42 at the scrap yard for the steel I would never use. There was also a good bit of stainless stock (and aluminum, and bronze and scrap lead and…. You get the idea. It’s an unknown grade I’d stainless, but for something like this, it should be perfectly fine.

[@nkelly.9]

@@JeremyMakesThings Sure, of course the stock will be fine, but the procurement of it is a part and a factor of the overall process. It took time and money to procure, it did not appear out of thin air. Lawyers charge in 5 minute blocks for their time and sell their intellectual capital(figuring out stuff), they will charge you for paper clips and photocopying/emails etc. , machinists/mechanics give their time and intellectual capital away, relatively, for peanuts. There is rent for the working space, capital costs for machines, tooling, metrology, consumables and electricity used in to the bargain. If people want stuff, they have to pay you for what it really costs. Or go and make it themselves.

[@tas32engineering]

Away from the lathe. Do the job sheet procedures. That helped me.

[@dadgarage7966]

Rather, spin some tools to form beads in tubes to make automotive style barbs.

[@robertlong9029]

So $400 ?

[@maddogmiddelburg1963]

I am a professional cnc lathe operator it takes me about 4 minutes to make that

[@mooreevair]

must you not.

[@aaronshapiro2542]

Does that include the time to generate models and tool paths for the first one? It takes me 4 minutes just to start up my computer. 😆

[@maddogmiddelburg1963]

@@aaronshapiro2542 no after programmering it takes just 4 minutes in mild steel 2 minutes

[@hrxy1]

are you kneeling down?

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Sitting on a 5 gallon bucket.

[@hrxy1]

@@JeremyMakesThings OK thanks, I just wondered