Cut and fix architraves 18 gauge or 16 gauge brads? and how I like to do it

[@AntonyGoodall]

Love watching you work - so considered and skilled - nothing left to chance. Thanks for sharing as always! Cheers.

[@chrisgardner2597]

To imagine the great Robin Clevett cutting a mitre the wrong way has given me great hope for the rest of us!

[@CharlieCollison]

I’ve heard your the man to learn from 👍🏻 I’ll be looking through your stuff 👌🏼

[@ukconstruction]

Well I'm a fan of yours Charlie!!

[@dazcoop4225]

Ive just done a job replacing doors and arcs, what a night mare removing the glued on arcs. Never come across them being glued before. Nail gun at a slight angle, caulk to walls jobs a gooden.

[@rossmale8715]

I actually used to use an 18 but now use a 16 I prefer the fixing strength. I find not much difference, you've still gotta fill the holes anyway so doesn't matter much on the head size, my opinion of course.

[@nikodemandy3591]

Rob u r an absolute star! U made it look soo easy. Ive just done 5 door linings, architraves and fitted one door and I tell u I was was stressing like hell to get it spot on. Definitely lacking a gun nailer and experience but ur videos are very informative and helped me a lot. Even got praised for my work ethic and the final outcome. Im keen diyer and always happy to learn from you.

[@gazobee]

Love this video! We are just finishing off our extension and I cut a temporary door hinge with a router freehand, it’s not brilliant! So pleased that the hinge jig is for sale and at such a reasonable price. I have ordered mine! Architraves and skirtings to do so your video is perfectly timed. Thank you once again, I don’t mind buying extra kit from someone when you save me as much money as you have! Top work Robin!

[@hogthrob]

If your mitre saw has a little bit of wobble, that's probably because you haven't locked it in place. That's what the lever on the end of the rotating table is for - it isn't just there to hit you in the nuts when you walk too close. :-)

[@sygad1]

cutting all the heads and legs...normally i'd say...brave man, then I remember who i'm watching....you got this

[@andyhall6101]

Thanks

[@ukconstruction]

Thank you Andy!!!

[@alequee]

agree about Oval nails also Brad nails 1'1/2 and every nail was punched and block plane for miters

[@tompirozek4490]

When you cut your mitres in a mitre box, oh those were the days

[@shaunglendinning]

Great job! You always make it look so easy Robin!

[@T.E.P.]

sooooo much content already in 2021. Superb work in all the ways Robin!

[@anthonyellis5517]

Love watching you work! Top notch thanks for sharing.

[@mikehall6433]

I remember using ovals and lost heads, Tap the end of them to stop the wood splitting. Flooring with lost heads was always a competition who could knock them in the fastest and with as little hits as possible 😂

[@davidrobertson7964]

1 1/2 brads back in the day would have a black residue from manufacture. Get your softwood manky. Pine lining that was in fashion especially. Best wee had was a damp cloth. And the brads we had to 'borrow a handfull from site containers. The galvanised ones were realy bad to work with. How times have changed! For the better!!!

[@paulknights1764]

16 gauge for site work all day long .. unless it’s fine finish work … or private work .. skirting’s especially require 16 gauge for a good fixing . Great 👍🏼 video rob .

[@gcara9918]

no need to 45 flat mdf (no profile) Robin . Make legs full height and cut header in between . when I have to use mdf I also put a biscuit in .there is no grain so butt joints are faster and solid

[@SteS]

15:29. It's bullnosed.

[@tomsmith9048]

I find that the pneumatic guns can shoot hardwood to hardwood where the battery gun lacks that little bit of punch in that particular area the f18 passlode straight is the one for me 🔨

[@tomearnshaw8532]

Milwaukee just brought out a 12 volt nailer. Looks a sweet little tool for small jobs.

[@Roedy_Coedy]

I managed to fit architrave to my newly installed stud wall doorway the other day. (I didn't know when you get a door fitted in a stud wall you dont get architrave...) I watched you video, I especially liked the fact you dont need to measure anything, and then just went at it. It looks great, my mind is blown. My father's mind is blown (although I got told off for not measuring...?), my buddies minds were blown. Ordinarily I struggle to use a screwdriver, your videos are magic.

[@ukconstruction]

Thank you Peter!!!

[@reddawgrup1779]

Wow... If only I could find a RO so clean and the jams so flush to the wall!! Lol 👍

[@kizzjd9578]

I use 18g into the jamb and 15g into the stud. And 23g to pin the mitres while the glue sets ( if I don't use ca glue). Hikoki is bringing out a angled 16g gasless gun soon so i will probably swap the 15g for 16g when it comes out.

[@jjamo5]

I grabbed the Hitachi 18 ga she's lovely absolute top job it is!

[@Orgakoyd]

Hi Robin, great video, really cleared up my questions about 16 vs 18 ga! I'm just wondering what length nails you were using in the video? Maybe I missed it sorry!

I do just that and when on site, I'll use either a ply or celotex board and make a jig

[@johnburgess8530]

Well well well hello Robin you havent changed in 20 years mate good to see your well it's John Burgess the roofer from Purely I done some work for you in the late 90s I moved back to Suffolk in 2001 great videos and I have subscribed to your channel keep safe mate

[@ukconstruction]

Hi John, great to hear from you mate, are you still roofing? you where a great roofer mate shame you moved!! keep in touch mate!!!

[@johnburgess8530]

@@ukconstruction Thanks for the reply Robin yeah I still do a bit of roofing but as you know the body gives up on you as you get older Update is mate when me and the wife moved back to Suffolk we put our heads together and done the Sarah Beany thing The property ladder scheme went really well then moved into the buy to let game as well went ok until the crash in 2008 but managed to see it through and at the moment we are in the process of changing them all into holiday homes as we live on the coast and with the covid thing and people not going abroad it's playing into our hands anyway that's enough about me I see your a busy boy you always thought out of the box I still tell people when you took me to a job and it was Chris Tarrents house anyway keep in touch I'm on Facebook we can catch up on their I still go back to epsom every year for The Derby

[@ukconstruction]

@@johnburgess8530 Well done mate sounds like you made the right moves!!, Let me know about the holiday lets mate, we often as a family like to travel the UK and rent nice places as I m sure yours will be!! And maybe we can have a beer at the Derby!!!!

[@ashleyrowe2681]

got rid of my paslodes, gas nailers are so terrible when cold.

[@SingleTrack66]

If you take the gas out and insert it somewhere warm for 5 minutes. 😂 I agree , hate them I’m all compressed air now. The huns are so cheap. I’ve got 16, 18, 22, first fix and a masonry nailer. Plus two staplers for not much more than one paslode and they never go wrong and fire every time.

[@ashleyrowe2681]

@@SingleTrack66 If a tool does not work when you pick it up then its not really doing its job, the amount of times i had a 9x2 timber ready and then the gun dont fire. If i went to someones home and started work but need a warm up time before i got anything done then i would not have much work :) Paslode need to improve the gas or provide a warm up gas covering in the case lol

[@russelldavis7108]

Got rid of two pasload 2nd fix gas nailers and bought the makita equivalent which has been much more reliable.

[@sally6457]

@@ashleyrowe2681 maybe you should start to respect your tools, if I left you in the cold garage all night and woke you up only when I needed you, then I wouldn't get your optimum performance?

[@ashleyrowe2681]

@@sally6457 Perhaps i should tuck them up in bed for the night ! No other tool have issues due to the cold, i will stick with the hikoki

[@daihedral9269]

It's maybe just the way the light is catching them but those mitres don't look as tight or neat as would be expected given the exceptional levels of finish normally seen on here.

[@mphalo1804]

The activator spray is designed to work using capillary action .

[@josephstratti52]

Yes the head is bigger on the 16 gauge and it will hold without having to glue.Replacing carpet with hard flooring and reusing the wood skirting I am thankful the old carpenter did not use glue!

[@TurinTuramber]

I agree about the nail sizes. This is relevant for me as I do everything I can on a project. if you were just priced for the chippie work, would you so much about the painter? 🤔

[@robertbamford8266]

“Mark direction”. Door in my daughter’s “new” house had a door with the left leg mounted and the rest of the casing standing in the corner behind the door. Went to mount the two pieces. Head and ... another left leg. Thanks for the video!

[@ukconstruction]

Love that!

[@brianwood5220]

I like the look of the 18 too. Nice job Robin.

[@ukconstruction]

Its really nice Brian just perfect for most trim work, have a good day mate

[@SteS]

Done an architrave like that recently with mitre adhesive. Don't have a chop saw so used a shooting board and a plane to get the mitres picture perfect. Was sweating buckets waltzing the architrave though over to the door jamb afraid all would go in a heap in the floor. 🕺🏻🚪

[@leehalling8635]

Robin what is the 18 gauge like for fixing skirting in to stud and dabbed walls is it a good enough fixing

[@tobybeswick36]

the paslode - 'it is a nice machine though'.. until you're doing a roof in winter. I've had it so many times doing roofing where people's paslodes don't work, but the cordless dewalt 1st fix never fails

[@madcarew.3256]

Always more fixings around Bedrooms...if not..Big Row..someone storms out...slams door..Architrave falls off!!

[@Pistol_Knight]

"you can use a combination square to mark out the margin" Robin: "hold my beer whilst I make a Jig" Nice work

[@I-am-not-a-number]

How about a screw in a block? Run it around the jam and the screw head will mark the margin with no evil pencil marks.

[@tompirozek4490]

Yes they can be tempramental as Robin just showed, I always keep my gas in the cab not the back and stuff one in my pocket before use

[@alequee]

Combination square for mitres . I would probably say cutting with handsaw and square is probably just as quick if you are only doing a few door the time you set up chop saw and bench , wood have two sides completed

[@SingleTrack66]

@@alequee so you can cut 8 neat 45 deg mitres with a hand saw before I can get my chopsaw out and do it ?

[@CJ-mj9bo]

@@alequee I just like buttons and triggers 🤣

[@bcfcespley]

Hi can you make a video about what type of filler/putty etc is best to fill nail holes and small gaps in between your cuts please.

[@markb1971]

Exactly the same as I do architrave, I make a jig out of 2 hardwood stair infills and mitre bond them together offset by the margin required , forming a rebate...works well for me

[@WheresMyPencilUK]

Top job. If you are fitting to dodgy old linings that are all over the place I’m guessing you can’t use the picture frame method? Any tips?

[@dunch1988]

I think those ear defenders would work better on your ears Robin! 😂

[@jrsuk1170]

I'm 18g most of the time now - exactly for the reasons you demonstrated. The 16g paslode is noisy, too temperamental and a bit rougher.

[@keithlewis1741]

Thanks for a great lesson in carpentry. Enjoyed 😉

[@charlierodgers2776]

Robin when the plaster sits proud of the lining , do you just nail the architrave and get the decorated to caulk the gap ?

[@ismu34]

I fixed it once by rabbeting the back of the architrave but it was a pain

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@ismu34 I have rebated the back of the architraves on occasion, but you can't really run the rebate all the way to the floor as it causes a step against the skirting. It generally gets caulked between the architrave and the lining. (which isn't ideal). I just get on to my plasterer keep his skim tight at the lining.👍

[@eldoradocraftsman3733]

Very nice Robin. Can you tell me, Gas or Battery preference? Thanks

[@johnburgess7165]

I've got a DeWalt 16g finishing nailer. (And a Framing nailer as well). Never used them yet, but have loads of DIY coming up from Stud walls through to completion of the whole of my upstairs. Yes, I'll no doubt use contractors at some point. But I want the satisfaction of having a go myself first. I enjoy it (so far 🤪) I'd prefer not to have to buy a pack of each available length (32, 38, 44, 50 & 63 mm) What lengths are best for what jobs? Like ... Door linings, architrave, skirting, etc. Thanks in advance.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Thanks for the video Robin. Not been able to get on over the last few weeks due to materials shortages so your videos are helping me keep sane. Interestingly, I've just started using the 16g DeWalt DCN660 angled nail gun and it actually leaves a hole half way between the size of 18g and 16g. 😁 Slick work mate. Cheers.

[@danthechippie4439]

Hi Dell, I always used pastlod nail guns both first and second fix which work great (except when very cold ha). I was wondering if you knew what the main difference is between gas/battery powered guns compared to the cordless versions like the dewalt you have? Cheers

[@thetallcarpenter]

@Dan The Chippie Hi Dan. Gas nailer use a piston and cylinder much like that in an internal combustion engine. Gas is introduced into the cylinder and inginted, pushing the piston down, firing the nail. Battery only guns use stored energy, or inertia built up by a flywheel type arrangement that is used to drive the nails🤞

[@danthechippie4439]

​@@thetallcarpenter hi Dell, I think the 18 g is the way to go for skirting /arctrave, door stops etc as they leave a smaller hole, and it's its better for cabnit work for same reason. Did you notice the difference in price between the 2nd fix paslode (about €530) and the 2nd fix fine paslode (€900).

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@danthechippie4439 I didn't buy the 2nd fix Paslode Dan, but I know it's more expensive than the 1st fix one😬

[@CJ-mj9bo]

Robin, you should do a mitre adhesive review like you did with the grab adhesive! Do you have a preferred brand? I find they vary on quality and on site when gluing up they always supply you with the cheapest! Enjoying your channel mate 👍🏻

[@kevinwestwood6668]

Having nightmares on site at the moment with the paslode gas freezing, in the cold weather, don't fire, the battery ones aren't affected by the cold weather.

[@onlineoffgrid]

Try using the paslodes in -30 in Canada , sometimes I miss the uk only sometimes lol

[@zrbuilder1365]

I enjoye your videos lot and always learning something awesome.please continue share your great experience . good bless you

[@markobrien4940]

Paslode guns can pain be a pain robin with the gas out of date or left in the van for long period and the gun if they fall slighty they give lots of issues to .could to see now that there are lots of other brands of guns now that you dont even need gas for just a battery thats charge and happy days then 😀

[@ksly7426]

Looking to get one of them Milwaukee pin guns

[@andrewwiltshire8796]

Wicked Robin another amazing video mate 👌👌

[@messenger8279]

My Paslode is the same. Has been so unreliable since the day I bought it. It's so frustrating especially if youre reaching out up a ladder. I stopped using it now and only use my Milwaukee. It's been repaired more times than it was worth. Cleaning makes no difference either.

[@jones7555]

is that hikoki miter saw any good?

[@tgtbatu]

Mr clevett what is the lead time on the mdf door linings and a rough cost please??

[@Chickengaming360]

Are the ear muffs for show

[@154electrician]

Hi a bit off the topic but could you use 3x2 cls for framing a man cave ? Thanks

[@chopsaw2988]

I’m a chippy by trade and have several 16ga Paslode guns, great when they work but watching your vid is shows how temperamental /frustrating they can be let alone cost of fixings and maintenance. Was looking at the Milwaukee 18 ga gun but wasn’t sure if 18 ga brads were up to fixing skirtings as well as arcs. I use gripfill and Brad combo on both (38mm brads arcs) and (50mm brads skirts). Fixing 18mm MDF skirting I tend to tosh nail 2-3 brads every couple of feet. Just wanted your thoughts on an 18ga for the job don’t have a worry about fixing arcs it was more a concern on the skirting

[@ryancorbett6315]

Just wondered if you ever commuted to a Milwaukee gun ?

[@handle1196]

If you have wet underfloor heating in a 55mm screed, do you need any expansion gaps under the legs or just sit them right on the floor?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Dan, The heat from the underfloor heating will have no effect if the material is MDF, only if you have unsealed softwood that has a high moisture content when fitting might you see some shrinkage but in both cases you can hit the floor

[@imranpatel2489]

Excellent video, like always. Can you do a video on doing architraves where the door casings not 100% square. Iv been doing a old house using softwood ogee architraves and it's been a nightmare in getting it close to perfection. Thanks

[@markdunn2360]

Should you always double name architraves even with adhesive heat in room can twist Architrave of wall

[@markwilson6500]

Still can’t see what glues were being used. Can someone let me know. Ta

[@DK-ff9hp]

Hello Robin, great video. Given that the brads are primarily for positioning, have you thought of using the 23g headless pins? They leave virtually no mark. Never tried it myself but wondering if experienced folk have any thoughts.

[@wilkorogers8764]

They only good for detail that will never be touched.

[@db7948]

​@@wilkorogers8764I disagree I mostly fit prefinished hardwood architraves and use the 23 gauge along with adhesive so the fixings cant be seen.

[@AndrewSmith-bb8sh]

Love that you take pride in your work Robin, seen a few people just wallop it on over the years!! Is that Skirting 4U in Aldridge?! I have collected a few bits from there, always fast turn around. Also Robin is that where you purchase your MDF door frames from?!

[@martinroberts5577]

Thanks Robin. I thought it was a good way to demonstrate both and giving us your 80% use of the 18 gives a good feel for which way to go. Not forgetting the adhesive. Cheers 😊

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

So when you use a 8mm margin, and put a mark on it: Do you then add 1-2mm to compensate for the mark, or do you then use the mark so that you just cover it when you assemble the trim?

[@tomsmith9048]

Your always thought to split the pencil line you won't go to far wrong once the pencil line isn't a magic marker 😝🔨

[@KenHSays]

if your using glue why aren't you nailing with an 21 gauge nailer?

[@alanbolster2590]

Are you using a timber door stop, or was the one on the head just temporary to stop the door swinging through.

[@TheAces81]

Hi Rob. When is the 102mm hinge jig available?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Danny, hopefully the end of this week mate

[@TheAces81]

@@ukconstruction cheers. I've got 76 mm on the way.

[@ukconstruction]

@@TheAces81 thanks Danny!!!

[@stephenward8580]

Keep looking at the 18g Milwaukee as a replacement for my 16g paslode. The question is can I get away with just using 18g pins for 2nd fix work or do I need both 18 and 16g?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Stephen, I reckon that as carpenters we will always have the need for the 16g especially for pinning back skirting through plasterboard with the 64mm pins, the 16g is also really useful for most smooth exterior claddings such as tongue and groove cedar or channel cladding where you can again use a 64mm stainless steel pin, the 18g really comes into its own when you are doing mouldings such as architraves and other timber to timber moulding work as the head is just really small especially useful in hardwoods, I really hope that helps mate

[@stephenward8580]

@@ukconstruction It does thank you. I have also considered a new 16g paslode for every day work and a small compressor with a 18g and 23g gun for joinery type work which tends to be in a smaller area so the portability of a battery gun isn't as important. It would also keep the costs down compared to two or three battery nailers.

[@danthechippie4439]

Hi Robin, so if you were in the market for a new pin gun regardless of brand or model, would you recommend buying a 16g or 18g for skirting and arctrave, door stops etc?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Dan, great question, I like both sizes, I prefer 16g on skirting but 18g on architrave, mostly they only hold the moulding till the grab adhesive is cured in anycase! So..... you can achieve a good second fix with just an 18g but the fixing is only up to about 50mm as opposed to 63 with the 16g, hope that helps

[@adamlafferty1116]

Have you used a 16ga when fitting skirting to plastered breeze block walls?

[@covcarpenter9158]

Iv only ever had a 16 gauge because most of the shop fitting firms will only supply 16g pins and the paslode 18g is rubbish

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

I remember when these "nails" in guns were called panel pins! Yep 2" ovals, nail punch no adhesive, mastic etc!

[@Pistol_Knight]

I still have a box full of 'Panels Pins' 'Ovals' & 'Lost heads' not used them in years, but I have them, maybe a Museum will want them in a few years

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@@Pistol_Knight doubt it theyre still available - even at Screwfix! 😂

[@matthewbirchall9344]

I've been a joiner for 20 years m8 but no where nere as good as you love your video's but also ive got be multi skilled which i hate

[@wilkinsoncarpentry6278]

Great video mate 👍

[@mikehall6433]

What about Cedar cladding hidden nailing. Would 18g be too small. I've got the Milwaukee 18g gun but I'm going to be fitting come cladding to my brothers house, would you recommend using a 16g instead.

[@tonytrott353]

Make sure you use stainless in cedar. I’d go with the 16g as the cedar is quite soft.

[@mikehall6433]

@@tonytrott353 I used my mates 16g on my Garden room, I might get it off him again, still have loads of SS brads left.

[@dlamb2840]

No you’re not, you’re not human! Your a carpentry machine!, Awesome stuff!

[@sbcarpentry4261]

What Bluetooth ear defenders do u use ?

[@charlierodgers2776]

Robin In order to maximise productivity do you simply work faster and rush if on price say for example ?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Charlie, I am always on a price, I have never really done daywork, my pace is pretty much the same for doing either price or day, its experience that allows you to get through a lot of work efficiently and make some half decent money on a price, carpentry is one of those jobs that if you rush and tear then it will definitely show!!

[@charlierodgers2776]

@@ukconstruction better to be neat and efficient then rough and fast!!

[@thecuttingsark5094]

Really helpful video for me. I thought I was cursed with the nail gun.

[@davidgerardgeraghty9890]

great vids as always, thanks for sharing. Have you done an MDF skirting install video, and also the same when fixing to block/plaster walls. Keep the great content coming

[@kills99ofbacteria50]

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[@kills99ofbacteria50]

Here's Robin on Skilbuilder showing how to fit mdf skirting and architrave. Enjoy. 👍

[@smag6264]

Random comment. I know you use hikoki a lot...... I’ve just bought the tripple hammer impact and combi drill set. The drill DV18DBXl is super intermittent on the trigger, even with full power and full charge. Even when trying to put drill bits in, it just doesn’t work and then suddenly will. Is that normal? Or is mine faulty? Any help from subscribers appreciated.

[@ukconstruction]

Hi mate, the drill sounds like it has a fault, I would return it and try another, Hikoki are great about this kind of thing, let me know how you get on

[@smag6264]

Okay. That’s reassuring. I’ll take it back in and let you know how I get on. Thanks for the reply and well done with the vids, they’re very good.

[@johnp1839]

Great video, so informative. How do you like the dewalt table saw? Do you prefer the Dewalt TS over the Bosch jobsite table saw?

[@ukconstruction]

Hi John, many thanks for watching, I have not personally tried the Bosch jobsite table saw, I would imaging that its is fairly good, I like the Dewalt I have, but it all boils down to a really decent blade, I purchased this Dewalt saw for 1 job a few years age and I couldn't be with out it now!!!

[@MH-qx2mj]

Great video again, if you had to choose between a 16 or 18 gauge, would you have one over the other? Thanks Mark

[@ukconstruction]

if I can get away with the shorter brad in the 18 gauge then it would be that every time!!

[@MH-qx2mj]

@@ukconstruction Thanks Robin, if you dont mind me asking, what's you current favourite nailer brand? Cheers

[@ukconstruction]

@@MH-qx2mj I really like the new Milwaukee 18v nailers, I am also running Hikoki which is on par and we have several paslode variants and these providing you maintain them are always real good too!!

[@MH-qx2mj]

@@ukconstruction Cheers

[@samposton9101]

Nice work mate!

[@extinguish3538]

Do you ever find use for a 15 gauge? Cheers

[@seanphillips7767]

Hi Robin,when will the new 4” hinge jigs be available on your site shop? All the best mate!

[@sally6457]

I'm a massive fan of Robbins, he is extremely clear and concise in every way, So why would you, if your confident enough to use a router? would you wait for a 4" version of his hinge jig? A little effort and patience, 18" of 4"×1", a coping saw and 4 screws is all you need to make the jig you need. It's an extremely simple template, if you can't make one then buying one is unlikely to help you.

[@briansearles7342]

Multistick is the business

[@chriskelvin248]

Learned a new word today.

[@Clicksystems]

Where do you get the MDF edge taped for door linings?

[@ukconstruction]

I get these from a a supplier called Cutwrights in south London

[@Clicksystems]

@@ukconstruction thank you :) About to start a refurb and want to install Made to measure MDF door linings. I did have a look on cut wright before but didn’t see the option for edge taping. I will contact them. Thank you :)

[@Jaymo_the_monkey]

Robin, are they 762x2300 doors :-) Sorry, couldn’t resist Btw, prefer to use 18’s

[@nyallspurling7399]

Do you seal the bottom of the mdf where it meets the floor? I am always worried about a little bit of moisture getting there and bursting out the bottom.

[@kizzjd9578]

I put a dab of wood glue on mine. I'm a professional so it's my job to prevent any maintenance issues down the track

[@dielauwen]

Miter Adhesive?

[@tej4630]

#robinclevett Any recommendations for decent hinges?

[@TheAces81]

Hi Rob, what length brads are using?

[@user-ts7zz6lq4x]

54mm.

[@mikes5074]

Hi Robin,I think I saw you fitting MDF door linings on an earlier project,what would you do about fixing the architrave to the lining near the margin in that situation?

[@BadHorsie1]

What's 18 and 16 gauge in mm?

[@ukconstruction]

Great question!! I don't know the official answer and you have enquired I want to find out too! I will look into it, thank you for your question!