Cutting firewood with a 28" holzfforma bar and chain. Are they any good?

[@imperfectcuts7028]

Can't wait to see this saw. Everytime you post a video on this saw it makes me smile. Whoever gets it is gonna be really lucky

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

Great review of the bar and chain, Tinman! I think your advice is really great regarding folks who want to do some longer bar cutting but don't want to take the plunge price wise 👍

[@simpleman4224]

Looks like a decent bar & chain for the average firewood cutting home owner! Thanks for sharing buddy!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jakewhipple]

They eat! It’s nice to see your thoughts on cheaper/aftermarket parts. I really enjoyed listening to your thoughts on this bar/chain and also the hyway cylinder earlier in the series.

[@robertsmith7580]

In all my years of running chainsaws I've never knew how important it is for a saw to have a properly adjusted carburetor or how to do it !

[@JoeRainis156]

Love the one pull start up and the cutting in the snow. Oh Canada

[@mattiaswillman]

We also have snow now in northen Sweden. Great content Tinman! The 268 looks nice with that bar.

[@DeanMagarry]

Thanks for the video Tinman, will be interesting to see how the bar and chain goes with some more use.

[@230e4]

The 268 is running good! I have had the best luck with carlton and Husqvarna x-cut chain in hardwoods so far. They consistently cut 3x the amount of trees before needing to be sharpened. They last longer and cut back on time spent sharpening which saves $.

[@fabiansigle7492]

Just fixed 2 huskys (353 and 345) for small jobs! Your Videos realy helped me understanding how to do stuff!😎👍... not a carb tuning expert yet took me 1h to dial them in!

[@yakbranson]

Hey tinman! Just in the shop here in KY sharpening chains and watching your video. Hope all is well

[@timgordon6160]

Hey Tinman have a great weekend!! That 268 looks and sounds great!

[@mrxlh]

Great rundown of the economy bars and chains.

[@jordanteets8818]

Man i love the way you put them saws together tinman really solid builds! Great work buddy! Happy Thanksgiving!

[@In2investing]

Love it as soon as you say you don't burn hardwood in the shop, the haters come out, but like you say "it what it is" and there sure is a time and place for softwoods even pine.

[@brucenicov1224]

For the money they are what they are. The Husky runs and cuts real nice. Great build bud.

[@KT-et5vn]

That saw is so clean it deserves a husqvarna bar for sure.

[@jeremyhurtubise6551]

Another great video. I can’t wait to see how the bar holds up.

[@josephcanova4810]

Loving that 268 Tinman.... thanks for the update on the Bar and chain. Looking forward to seeing if it stretches anymore

[@rchighfield1]

Thanks for the test, sounding like it’d be good for me. Perfect for sitting around waiting to be run! 😂

[@ozdatman]

I noticed the last holtzforma chain I got was a different profile from the previous ones. It won't be just the chain stretch, the imperfections on the bar would be flattening out making less tension. The chains I find are good the bars are good for the price but a little soft. When you have a limited budget and too many saws to put bars on what are you going to do. Cheers Tinman

[@brittainwright1]

Didn't think about the initial bar wear in making the chain looser too. Wonder just how much that affects things?

[@modarkthemauler]

The initial bar wear is extra on those painted bars. So yeah the stretch is a bit exaggerated on a new bar and chain combo. Edit: the holtzforma bars are not painted but I meant painted bars in general.

[@ozdatman]

@@modarkthemauler I think they are clear coated.

[@markheinl1902]

I’ve been curious to these bars and chains. Thank you for the review and your comments

[@stevetheriault4164]

That saws DIALED in like a Swiss watch great job TINMAN she runs mint buddy,,,hope everyone has a great weekend be safe

[@antoniomorgado5304]

A good running saw a good saw for my collection here in Portugal! Nice keep it going!

[@treebender261]

I been running the archer bars and chains with pretty good success price is about the same the bars are tighter and stiffer just from watching the video the chain stretches some the first use but after that it's good for me I buy spools that way I can make my own loops it works for me because its 30 miles just to get a chain made up thanks for doing this because alot of us just cut our own firewood and we don't really need pro level bars and chains.

[@Saw_Squatch]

That 268 is a beauty those bars and chains look very passable for the average firewood guy, definitely some qc issues but I think for just a cheap bar and chain for the average guy, or as a low cost option for project saws I dig 'em well enough.

[@parkerearp4316]

Thanks for all the info you share! I'll try my hand at porting soon with all the knowledge you've shared. Keep up the great work!

[@ihcr100]

Thank you. Very informative. Especially appreciated the comparison of the two saws and the way they behave for you. Also thanks for informing us of the flex on those Holzfforma bars. Take care.

[@flatlanderscustomgamecalls4996]

Good first run on that bar and chain combo the 268 is coming around I think 2 more tanks or fuel and she will be good to go

[@swere1240]

ive used them and they just seem abit flimsy. i wouldnt use them for treework but for a guy cuttin some firewood youd be fine. but if your workin em hard and trying to stump a 4 foot oak stump they can get messed up in a hurry. the weak spot i noticed was where the tip meets the bar. also a good choice to let a guy who hasnt cut as much use and not have to worry about a 200 dollar bar get bent by someone who doesnt know any better. my boss puts em on a few saws that the ground guys use because they are were always tearing bars up and he was tired of brand new stihl bars getting messed up by the ground guys by getting them pinched or hiting the dirt then trying to horse the bar and bend it cuz a dull chain and they get in a hurry. not as much of a problem as it was cause we quit letting guys run the bigger saws that didnt know what they were doing and let them use the joncutter 5800s which for the money are great litle saws in my opinion

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

Looks like they cut good. I use a semi-chisel chain because I am always cutting dirty wood.

[@johnarnettsways.8758]

Looks like winter has come with a vengeance tinman. Be safe. God bless

[@RussellHoughton]

I have a 162se I was given that I honed and ordered a piston for. I hope it works 1/2 as good as that.

[@latinodeathjazz]

Man, I could go for some of that snow. Been stuck in Singapore since COVID kicked off and while I’m not ungrateful for permanent BBQ weather it’d be real nice to feel a cold wind on the face. I know this mainly about the bars and chains but that 268 is the star of the show - sounds good and raspy 👍🏻

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Goodness sakes Tinman. Both those saws are just sweeeet. That 268 is probably the best starting saw I have seen , you have the touch brother. Great throttle response and still breaking in. Love the Ole 630 super man she's snappy. Great review on the Holz bars and chain. Lovin it. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓

[@tinmanssaws]

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[@tazman-kennyfuller]

@@tinmanssaws Good morning Tinman. New Logo for the Tinman, Tinmans the name, Reliable saws is my game. Hahahahahhaha yeah buddy.🌲❤🌲✊🪓

[@stevenlaxton3618]

I'd love to see you buy a holzfforma or build one of their kits as a series and let us new or curious guys know what you think the Chinese saws are missing on....and then you could orangutan it and not feel bad messing with an old saw?

[@playingwivwood]

And all oem husqvarna parts / stihl parts fit on the holzfforma because you do have to change quite a few parts to make them run well

[@KT-et5vn]

Would be interesting to see what he would upgrade on them. I've seen mixed reviews on them.

[@wesn573]

Second that!

[@stevenlaxton3618]

@@KT-et5vn I want to see him go all mad scientist on a big cc saw like to where we see him rubbing his hands together with a goofy grin in excitement....lol maybe he can finish the videos with "well you could definitely run this saw..for 2 months until it blows hahaha"

[@mm88swrt]

@Playingwithwood I built one a few months ago with all the original parts and it doesn't have any issues all the videos you find had. 9 tanks in. I'm building another ms660 right now with oem bearings

[@aldredske6197]

Hi Tinman!!😀😀 Go back to the beginning of the video and look. You didn't have the chain very tight before you started. So I don't think the chain stretched that much for the first run. I've been running them and all the ones I have been using haven't stretched any more than any Oregon chain I have had. For the money I feel they are a great deal. Those chains are square ground from the factory. That's why they don't have much of a hook in them. When you are tightening the chain you need to hold up on the bar while adjusting the chain and tightening the bar and the chain will stay tight longer. Take care my friend!!😀😀 Logger Al

[@dwoods1178]

Thanks Tinman! Like the bar and chain info…

[@NothingButChainsaws]

I had a 20 inch and a 24 inch bar from them and they where pretty good!

[@justinweaver8787]

Hey buddy

[@ItreboR63I]

Hello there Tinman. Keep warm. Love from the UK

[@VK2FVAX]

Really interesting. Especially the stretch. My first port was a 25cc certa (cheap chinese), it had a 10" bar and was great for pruning/small stuff, the initial stretch on the chain after about half a tank was amazing and I was thinking about checking chain stretch when it came off the bar and the catcher grabbed it. Amazing amount of stretch like this one (but much smaller). Good learning exercise. Nice video. Wish I was there to help.

[@ohiolumberjack2355]

Hi Tinman. I strongly encourage you to run about ten tanks and then check the bar. My experience is that the steel is very soft and bar is trashed after what I would consider less than a year homeowner firewood usage. If you rarely use the big bar maybe that is ok. GB 32” bar for $72 seems like a better option to me.

[@tinmanssaws]

I'm running these rules they fail. This test is far from done.

[@felixbinette9752]

Tinman I am on overload keep it up. The 268 I found on eBay runs ok could be better. But I think with what you are doing. I will get it right thanks for your help. Just gives me confidence.

[@MinusTheSparkPlugs]

I ran some 3/8 LGX one time on a Homelite XL925 with a 32" bar and idk if it was just the low speed grunt of an XL925 or if Oregons steel wasn't that hard that day but it stretched so bad I had to adjust tension 3 times to get a face cut and back cut in a tree that was a little bigger than bar length haha

[@KainKustomGarage]

Thanks for the Comparison Sir! Very helpful!

[@ΆγγελοςΛουκάτος]

I like to get cheap chains as a backup to an Oregon or Stihl, great to have with in case something happens. I also tend to put them on whenever I have to cut wood that's dirty or close to the ground. I'd rather cry over 10-15 euros instead of 30-35 for a 20" chain (I live in Greece). These long bars get me drooling, but they are tough to run on my 52cc....

[@justinweaver8787]

Nice!!!shes comin along nicely!

[@blanerosson1417]

Thanks for the feedback on those bars buddy!!

[@ChrisLascari]

I bought a holzforma for my little saw, works as I expected for an inexpensive bar and chain combo. For the price I cannot complain but I had low expectations to begin with. It does what it is intended to.

[@Racquetballerkevin]

That is a sweet saw. Makes me want to try a rebuild on a saw soon.

[@thomaslindroos1667]

Tinman you absolutely need one of them pulp hooks, I welded my own and it works wonders, really makes the loading and unloading a pleasure instead of a chore

[@markusky4774]

What a nice saw! Someday I’ll upgrade

[@nateolmsted899]

Love the channel love all the information on the new stuff

[@jonmcallister2208]

Tuning sounds awesome!

[@rodneyyazzie3739]

Wow, nice work on that power saw she start to come alive, but I think it still needs a better muffler mod on the give away, thanks on the bar and chain info. Alway be safe brother to you and your family and friends

[@wesn573]

I run the Hultz 28" bar on my 038. Perfect size for the wood around here.

[@hisWACness]

Both saws sound good, but that 630 really screams. I appreciate you testing these bars/chains. I personally like the buy once, cry once method; I always buy the best bar/chain I can afford.

[@sandarr11]

The chains don't stop stretching , 3 tanks later I put on an Oregon .

[@tomknapton5051]

That's a very good saw wish that I could find one I miss mine

[@MrHuntermikey]

Fastest wood stacker ever. Love the 268

[@scootscoot1920]

I’d like to see you put a kit saw together and test the quality of parts. That 268 seems like a ripper!

[@gregchapman9284]

What do you mean by kit saw mate? I haven’t heard the term before. Cheers

[@scootscoot1920]

@@gregchapman9284 like an eBay aftermarket kit, the pieces all come disassembled in a box so you must build the whole saw yourself.

[@kingsaws]

That 266 runs like a champ dude !

[@larrybollinger7319]

It looks like a really nice work saw.

[@jordonmunson8212]

Love the saws. Sounding great.

[@swedishchainsawnerd]

Did the same job today! In a snowy, and cold Sweden! I used a 550XPG, and autotune works fine, but i want to be in control😀 The 268, really starts to wake up! Good test, by the way!

[@swedishchainsawnerd]

Have you done more muffler mods to it?

[@adamlagace2485]

Great video Tinman.

[@506curtis]

In my experience the chain does eventually stop stretching, and they are an acceptable bar and chain for the average guy. They are worth what you pay for them.

[@smackevans3695]

Was curious about those bars nice video

[@chapsmaketory3960]

I've been using these for awhile n a great option for me as the price is perfect..im hard on my equipment n these are easily replaceable..yea they stretch a bit but I do like their chain n they hold up decently well

[@clarencetrice4442]

timing have you decked a cylinder head on a ported chainsaw w bigger piston and carb I seen buckin run 1 its very hot cutting big like butter 1127 2021

[@wesn573]

Was watching the chain loosen and almost halo around the bar!!!

[@j.chrisbeck7492]

Just found a Stihl 28" bar and 2 chains, asking price is $60. Might take the plunge if things look ok when I go look

[@joehackett9471]

Those bars look like could be rebranded Sugi bar! If thats the case I recant my statement on the bars!😆😆😆😆great video!

[@jamessemaj6738]

Hi Tinman , cheers for all the good info ! Over here in uk the 357xp is a popular little saw could you do a idiots guide to porting one with a hyway head ? I’ve a few a would love to squeeze a few more beans out of it Many thanks James

[@gregchapman9284]

Gday mate. I love my pm 570. I like the look of them. How do you come up with numbers on this sort of saw that you’ve ported before. Bit of a guide from buckin?

[@brucewayne2984]

Thanks Tinman. Was there a follow up on the chain stretch? Did they continue to stretch?

[@frankz1125]

I still prefer the Versa cut but I do want to win that saw. Sounds great

[@chrismiller4015]

Good video tinman!

[@clarencetrice4442]

timing had you ever run a ported chainsaw before you started porting chainsaws you're self have you run 1 of donny walkers ported chainsaws what's the difference between both saws 11 26 2021

[@welshwarrior797]

Excellent video as always. I put my 254 back together and it was running sweet but now it won't idle its reving high then trouble starting after watching you'r videos i think it's the crankshaft seals am i right or am i missing something ???

[@kuiperroerdink1670]

Tinman, would love to see you port a stihl 500i hehe. Maybe Buckin will send you one of his

[@markatkinson9963]

Price reflects their quality. They will work.

[@sagebrushhillbilly4655]

That 268 gets spicier all the time! Good review on the bar and chain. Thats an interesting grind on the chain out of the box, eh?

[@matthewm9913]

Tinman that is a beautiful saw . Its nice to see how easy its starts up. Oh 1 last thing I never seen anyone load wood that fast sir , your an animal . Lol , take care sir

[@davedepetro8166]

Mr. Tinman; just curious what grade fuel you recommend for the 200 series Husqvarna line? ..and thoughts on non-ethanol. Thanks😉

[@moosebrandon8665]

I've been wanting one of them saws

[@RussellHoughton]

Did the farmertec chains keep stretching or did they stop after you broke them in.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Love you brother!

[@Righound4]

Saws sound good! Enjoy

[@darrenpickens7147]

What is your opinion on Forester chainsaw bars? Would you consider doing a review on them?

[@BlackDevill9]

I have a 670 Champ whats the different on that 630 super was looking at one the other day looks pretty much the same, great revue 👌

[@82f100swb]

630 is 61cc, 670 is 66.7, and has a Jonsered specific intake boot setup with impulse line where the 630 is Husky style with a block. The 670 also had a unique air filter to go with the raised filter cover, I don't see them too often anymore, usually see the 630 style filter on them now. It is said that the 670 had the hottest ported 50mm cylinder on the chassis. I know the last one I did ended up cutting circles around my also ported 272....

[@chrisseger6870]

Nice vidya! Curious on first start up after a port job, do you haveta vary the throttle quite a bit? Or do you warm it up and just go into cutting?

[@kingsaws]

Holly cow that jonsered is a ripper! Is it piped

[@notavailable7379]

I think they are going to be just fine

[@bert26a]

That Husky sounded really nice. Do you think you'd try a Holzfarma powerhead?

[@jimhofoss9982]

luv that husky!

[@Mightycaptain]

How tall are you tinman? Trying to figure if that bar length will work for me.

[@brittainwright1]

Most chains I've ever run have stretched like that out of the box. The question is if they are done stretching.... if so, then they are good value for money. If they stretch like that every time then they are a waste.

[@urbanlogger902]

Let’s see that buckin special in action 👍

[@wednesdar452]

Both those chains appeared to stretch a mile right off the rip. Hard to tell how loose they were when you started... Saws sure are beauties though!!