Cwc #61 - The end of the White Oak denim era

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[@milkbaby99]

Vidalia Mills who bought most of the Draper X3 looms from the closed White Oak factory is currently closed. They laid off people and closed before Thanksgiving 2024 supposedly temporarily, but seems like they need more money invested to be able to reopen...

[@lowkeybredhead8083]

I'm 48 now and I still feel like I'm a young person. Time passing makes me sad because it will never come back. I see my parents get old (they're 80 now) and it depresses the fuck out of me.

[@jimmccoys5778]

I agree 100!! It’s just sad and true!

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

I know dude... my father passed away a few years back and my mom is aging. Its not easy.

[@WeltedWare]

Yeah 48 here as well and I keep going people in my life as it does hekp

[@ArneAsada69]

I’m in the same boat. Haven’t accomplished much. Also, I feel like I never had that life event that ushered me into adulthood.

[@shotgunsteve93]

Proximity Manufacturing still operates a few looms out of White Oak for small scale orders. The White Oak legacy still lives on on a small scale.

[@Jkorchak]

We all still have a little young left in us! Glad some of that Canadian cold is heading down your way lol! The zephyr 2 looks nice.

[@michaeledwardlenzi]

Interesting. I realized I was an adult when I moved to Chicago from D.C. at 21. I had all the money I saved and my car. No job. No good place to live. It hit me hard. That caused a mental shift. I learned how to survive and take care of myself. But in my mind I matured more slowly. I still feel youthful at 58 and am thankful I made it. I have yet to figure out a lot of answers to the eternal questions but I have routines, relationships and responsibilities which keep me on track. Without them I would be lost. Thought provoking video. Thanks Carlito.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Very interesting history, my friend. Its somewhat comforting to know that some things are eternal questions. I think sometimes it feels like everyone around us has things figured out.

[@ThePaPappy]

That cord shirt looks like the cowboy from The Village people would wear 😀😀

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Thanks, now you ruined it for me! hahaah

[@barlotardy]

As a gen-X, I feel like I will both always and never be both an adult and a child. We were the only generation who was 30 at ten, and still 30 at 60.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Hahaha very true, and I fall into that middle ground between gen X and Millenial (1981) so I get what you mean.

[@cle_roknn3742]

I was born in very early '81 (Jimmy Carter). I have heard my generation referred to as both X and Millennial. I never felt like I fit into either, then I heard someone refer to "Xennials" a slim in between generation that grew up in an analog childhood but had a digital adolescence and adulthood. We know how to change the TV channel by a knob and adjusting the rabbit ears, but also feel comfortable with smart TV's.

[@andresrosalesgonzalez8161]

YES! Please remake the layering video That was a great one

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

I'll add it to the list!

[@MushyMonkey]

Unbleached Apparel seems like a crazy good value. I'm checking them out immediately

[@Tribunal001]

I'm 22, just graduated and got a job, and it gladdens me a bit to here what you said. Because I feel so lost as a new "adult", like everyone is in on something and I'm the sucker.

[@jeffreydawson4520]

One of my favorite memes is “I’m at the age where my mind says you can do it and my body says, don’t do it fat boy”. As far as getting older, the worst part is all my toys become way, way more expensive! Case in point for more expensive is the Russell Moccasin boots. That’s on my short list for boots! My only issue with the Unbleached Apparel is I don’t paint that much and I’d be concerned that people would just expect me to paint their living rooms if I wore their stuff around town, lol. Hope you have a great week Carl!

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Hahahaha those white Sherwin Williams shirts and Dickies pants are like the unofficial uniform.

[@TJ-gv4tz]

My Connecticut is very warm, great for the car because it’s very short, unzipped. Had Ralph at Weatherwool send me some midweight wool and forwarded it to Tin Duck Denim, made me an unbelievable trucker. Two rights can make it really right. Brave Star has sales with the White Oak. Quick turnaround, custom fit selvedge jeans. 👍

[@ArneAsada69]

I recently discovered Iron Snail. Been going through his previous videos. Good stuff.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Iron Snail is the man!

[@budfowler9937]

Just a note of appreciation for your channel, C, and a "pitch"; I know how WE feel about Filson, but I recently got something I think is a bit unique; a bomber style ( knit collar/cuffs/lower hem) that is down filled, with a waxed (light) canvas shell... fantastic! A bit pricey (450$), but not really for what it is. Huckberry has them, and currently reduced last week, or of course the home site. Most durable down jacket I've handled

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Sounds interesting! I'll have to check that out. Is it a Filson or Flint & Tinder product?

[@stevecrawford7814]

I guess things were different back in my day. I felt like an adult after getting drafted in the Army. Went to school on the G.I. Bill, all the other students who were a few years younger than me seemed much younger than that. I’ve always worn lots of wool in the winter. I like it better than any synthetic material.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Very interesting, this is the kind of thing I was wondering about.

[@BlackBarnSocialClub]

Love everything I get from Gustin. For Nostalgic reasons alone, had to order the 1968 pants from that deadstock. Another great video!

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Right on!

[@Nicholas-V]

I think people mistake what maturity is. I'm in my 40's and still young at heart but experience has taught me lots of lessons, lots of them the hard way. I think a big part of becoming mature besides having people depending on you, is just rolling with the punches and picking your battles. "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference"

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Yes! I love that saying.

[@LastNineBreaker]

Some of us always have to stop ourselves and think “I want to do something, but is it the adult and mature thing to do?” 😂 We can get away with most of it when kids or dogs are involved.

[@nathanwhite5602]

Nice

[@JJ-zr6fu]

I made up my mind a while ago that if I’m buying a sweater it’s going to be wool because cotton is horrible either you’re freezing or over heating.

[@sempi8159]

Cotton is fantastic. Wool is a extremely vile product.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Amen!

[@curtshelp6170]

If I intended to be in places that cold I'd buy a B-3 but I don't. We get single digits and always windy here and the best I've found is a hooded wool pullover under my discontinued LC King fleece lined hooded windbreaker. I have some flannel lined jeans from Texas Jeans and Diamond Gusset and they aren' warm enough for those conditions. I need to find better pants for that weather.

[@skeeter2136]

Those Russell moccasin zephyrs look like a pair of loafers with boot shafts.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! hahaha

[@MrStreetninja007]

We all know that person in high school who we see occasionally or were friends with on Facebook who never matured past High School

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Yup! I know at least three who are still aspiring rappers.

[@MrStreetninja007]

@CoffeeWithCarl1 rofl alwayse those

[@franciscoramos5451]

Dude, I just realized this is a separate channel. 😂 I've subscribed here, too.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Welcome! I'm glad you're here.

[@knifenutsdave]

I swear we need to start teaching how to dress warmly in elementary school in New England like they do in Scandinavian countries, it really amazes me how much antipathy there is towards winter in (southern) New England when cold weather is a pretty solvable problem, why live your life hating 4 months of the year? Embracing the cold weather by preparing for it properly totally changed my perspective on winter, I love walking on the beaches here in winter now.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Totally agree! Learning how to dress for the weather makes everything easier (and safer)!

[@Old_Sailor85]

Sold all my heavy wool coats (Filson and Woolrich), double Mackinaws, Hunt Coat, etc. They were beautiful coats, but the way the wind blows through them was a no-go for me. Also, heavy for the warmth. If it's really cold (low teens, to below zero), it's my faithful Carhartt over Carhartt insulated bibs. If I 'm not moving, It's a vintage N-3B parka over the same bibs. FWIW, I picked up a TAD Deck Jacket. Nowhere near as warm as I would like. Beautiful coat, just not for single digits. I imagine any B3-style jacket/coat would be warm.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Interesting about that TAD deck jacket, have you seen that new Pendleton wool lined one they have?

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@CoffeeWithCarl1 No, sir. I'll have to check it out. Don't know how I missed it. Maybe I did see it but my size was out of stock. They had a huge sale recently. I picked up their Deck Jacket for well under $300. Got the blue version. Looks like black and blue depending on the light. Been in the teens and single digits, so I had a good chance to try it out to see how warm it was. Like I said, it is still a very nice jacket.

[@dallasshatel566]

Where did Gustin announce that they are running out of the Cone Mills stock?

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

It was in an email they sent out last week.

[@theroadlesstraveled6253]

Hey Carl, my wife and I talk about never feeling grown up all the time. The odd thing is that none of our long term friends (i.e. those we have known for over three decades) feel like they ever “changed” to adults either. Maybe that’s why they are our very good friends?? One thing I have also noticed is that when I have mentored folks in the past, they refer and act differently with me, and honestly, I don’t like it as much as before. No answers here from me on this… just feel the same way. Have a great week… next thing you know, your kids will be “adults” and maybe we will feel grown up then. I hope not.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Agreed! Part of me wants to always feel a sense of youth and wonder, no matter how old the shell is. I do think that like-minded folks tend to seek each other out, and you're lucky to have found some friends like this.

[@bigvisk1125]

i love my conneticut, very awesome jacket for my core, but not my legs :). maybe a B7 with an even thicker sheepskin for the single digits :)

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

The B7 is a BEAST! Its a whole lotta jacket.

[@bigvisk1125]

@@CoffeeWithCarl1 right :)

[@betznern]

The real ones know the true name of this channel.

[@CoffeeWithCarl1]

Damn right! -Carlito

[@mischaweiss1725]

All I think of during your 'Carlito intro' is the Eugenia interview.

[@RJMCK]

I feel like every adult, Gen X and younger, is still a kid inside. Me included.

[@sencerr226]

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