BYD Seal Annoying ADAS Disable

[@TallPaulTech]

Bloody hell, if you sooks didn't like that, then you'd better run away before you see what's coming next gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/2QSb89VWZsqw.jpg?o=1

[@accesser]

Keen to see what you do, Have a good Christmas.

[@CptMishMashVonRandom]

Keep posting mate. The internet is full of cunts, but some of us are sound cunts who enjoy your stuff. Happy Christmas. 👍

[@TallPaulTech]

@@CptMishMashVonRandomYeah man, I'm not too worried about them. Some guy just saw me in traffic before and yelled out that he's a subscriber. I was driving my Tesla, so he recognised it.

[@kevins.172]

@@TallPaulTech the Seal must feel like an absolute POS compared to your Model S no?

[@Crazy--Clown]

@@kevins.172 It is a piece of shit

[@alfreedng]

In Hong Kong my BYD Atto 3 allows me to select what kind of driving assist I prefer. And it stays as it is until I change them again. No annoying.

[@dlokcn1]

Hi. You can turn off the startup sound by clicking Vehicle Settings -> Intelligent Reminders -> Vehicle Prompt Sound Source -> change from Brand to Standard. The left and right turning sound will be standard as well. The labels may not be exactly same in Seal, but all BYD cars should be similar. 😄

[@TallPaulTech]

Thanks for that. Now it's been set.

[@dlokcn1]

@@TallPaulTech In UK recently there was an OTA for Seal, it's said with it the alerts are much less than before. You may try the OTA.

[@Rob34570]

Just curious why you bought it? It’s not like they added all that annoying stuff after the test drive. Unless you bought it to complain and make content? Don’t get me wrong, all that stuff would annoy me too, but I’d vote with my feet and walk out the dealership

[@BradMottram]

Absolutely love your attitude to everything! Couldn’t agree more us as the vehicle operators, we should have complete control of what features are enabled we want and don’t want!

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

The indicator sound. Is and option, you csn just choose another. The stereo needs another setup, heard it tuned right. The sound was amazing. You can set the adas up so you just need one setting on start up, to turn off. Sounds to .e that you haven't bother to set the car up right.

[@TallPaulTech]

I found that indicator sound after I made the video. Still, the default was a bit stupid to have.

[@benjaminprieto6605]

@frankbjrbsten7189 any cues for tunning the stereo? Also how to setup the quick the adas?

[@xeon_1705]

You can thank the eu for that line assistance crap Cleary thought up by a ploitician that doest drive cars on european roads that are narrow and getting narrower with the new cyclist first roads they are making.

[@CletusDB]

You dont need to bypass the audio noises... there is a setting that removes that and makes the indicators "normal" sound. Takes 3 secs if you bothered to check

[@TallPaulTech]

Yeah, I've changed that setting since the video. Still, a new big custom stereo is going in, as was always the plan anyway

[@CletusDB]

@TallPaulTech how are you going pass the stock stuff through?

[@vasil7410]

Problem is if you have to disable the annoying ADAS features every time you start the car. That's said, there are only two things that need to be disabled, not everything that was shown in the video. And apart from this being very annoying, the issue with with disabling things is that you are also not benefiting from these potential safety features. But until they calibrate them properly, they are more trouble than they are worth.

[@AlphaBeatish]

Unnecessary snark

[@CletusDB]

@AlphaBeatish if someone is going to put out content to proclaim this or that then they should at least have the fortitude to fact check themselves

[@manofleisure75]

I haven't gotten the car yet (early next year), but sat in one and played around with the settings a bit. From memory there is a swipe down option from the top of the screen that has quick commands. I think you can turn off all those ADAS things there if you preset it. Might be wrong though, only played around with it for 10 mins. Also as a fellow baldy, how is the sun through the roof? I'm in QLD and was wondering if I need to have the shade inserted 24/7. Cheers mate.

[@TallPaulTech]

The roof is fine. The Tesla is the same, the heat doesn't get through. I obviously felt like playing around with the car a bit anyway. Others don't seem to get that. Check out my pinned link to see where I currently am :)

[@TallPaulTech]

I just want to get familiar with what's where in this thing.

[@manofleisure75]

@@TallPaulTech Cheers mate

[@HermanWillems]

Have you also looked at the new model 3 RWD upgraded version? I never got annoyed by the sounds, it has way less sounds.

[@TallPaulTech]

The main reason I bought this car is because it's not a Tesla @@HermanWillems

[@lukeg779]

If these are anything like the Atto 3’s, you can turn off some of the goofy sounds in [Vehicle Settings] -> [Notification]

[@wendyparisienne6625]

Hello everyone! Just spend an hour to find a solution on a brand new Byd seal! And this is not the way at all … you just need to enter the car system on the screen … third entry on the vertical menu then last entry on your right on the horizontal menu … and change the sound to standard… all the noises and spaceship sounds GONE without touching any fuse ! Enjoyyyy 😁

[@TallPaulTech]

For bullshit ADAS crap it is

[@wendyparisienne6625]

@@TallPaulTech Fyi, the adas sound will be gone with the « standard » mode… no loud screen sound when its on or off … no sound with the speed limit … etc … 👍😊

[@TallPaulTech]

If you want to go through a menu to turn ADAS off, then have a dash full or yellow warnings, then go for it. I like to get rid of the shit once and for all.

[@wendyparisienne6625]

Do we have the same car ? 😅 I went to the menu once. Change to the standard mode. And I did not touch a thing since. And no yellow warning at all 🤩🤷🏻‍♀️ you maybe but touching the fuse on a brand new car … anyway hope I will help new owners. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@TallPaulTech]

@@wendyparisienne6625 No we don't have the same car. Mine has a way better stereo

[@timmywashere1164]

So at what point do you just build your own car?

[@jamess1787]

As soon as yo momma leaves his house. 😬🥺

[@rabbitazteca23]

i read that the resetting ADAS settings is due to the European regulations. Though I hope that BYD introduces profiles and that it would allow you to choose a custom profile on startup

[@sobanoodlez9372]

can't you change most of the sounds under the "Notification" options?

[@06younger]

If you use the indicator........you will not have to fight the steering wheel. BYD are working on an OTA update to tame the intervention of the ADAS systems and make it easier to turn some of them off. I drive a Skoda and if I try to leave my lane with lane keep assist activated.......the car will try and stop me unless I've indicated. It's not rocket science.

[@TallPaulTech]

That old "it will be fixed in a magical update one day" just doesn't do it for me.

[@06younger]

@@TallPaulTech each to their own I suppose. Would you at least concede that all lane assist systems will buzz the steering wheel if you swerve out of your lane without indicating. As a viewer, who's watched possibly every review on that car and has driven one........your video seemed like a bit of a "hit" piece Elon.

[@TallPaulTech]

I didn't really get any of what you said then.@@06younger

[@06younger]

@@TallPaulTech Happy Christmas 🤶

[@Johnsmith69448]

I've had lane keep assist on four cars from Honda, Nissan, Hyundai and Toyota. They all complain if you change lanes without indicating, but they don't try to force the car back in the lane when you turn the wheel past a certain point. They will gently turn the wheel when the car gets too close to the edge, to center the car, but will not interfere with an active lane change or emergency swerve, even without indicating.

[@888YangJi]

the ADAS reset is because of some stupid EU regulations compliance reason.

[@vasil7410]

I am hoping BYD Australia will override this nonsense for Australian cars.

[@888YangJi]

@@vasil7410 👍👍

[@louischristos9593]

I drove the Seal for 1 days….took it straight back. This is absolutely annoying. I encourage you all to write to BYD and complain. I had an update installed and it has settled down somewhat, but still does not allow a relax drive….i was trying to avoid an overwidth truck and was pulling me in to dangerous territory. Come on people, you voice will get change to this deadly driver assistance software. Such a nice car, however what a let down!!

[@TallPaulTech]

I think at least this video has got a few people talking

[@blablabla4007-m2s]

It seems these ADAS systems become mandatory in various countries, and eg. EU made it mandatory, that they have to be switched on on every start-up. The most common solution is to mute them (luckilly they haven't forbidden it yet), but it depends on car manufacturer if this setting is saved or not.

[@vasil7410]

The "feature" which attempts to keep the car in the centre of the lane is actually quite dangerous. I don't know if this is due to BYD's poor implementation, but it's certainly a case where the Euro NCAP bureaucrats have gone too far. I don't think ANCAP is as anal so hopefully BYD will adjust it for Australia.

[@ArclampSDR]

I wasn't betting on the indicators making that weird ding sound. That a whole musical intermission when you start and stop the car is a bit much

[@khx73]

so very Asian ..cute little jingles and happy symbols

[@terminator1762]

6:30 You said it! Additionally, if YOU pay for the car, YOU get to decide what to do with it (within the law, of course).

[@rowenyap3215]

Don't need to take the fuses out, BYD did an on air update that stores your settings when you turn off the lane assist and speed sign recognition

[@TallPaulTech]

Cool. How/when does/did this happen?

[@rabbitazteca23]

i think it was recent since I know I watched a review about the car and how they also hated the noises it was making but then the reviewer said that "BYD fixed it" probably referring to some update or something.@@TallPaulTech

[@Andrew-Night]

​@@rabbitazteca23 I ordered my Seal and BYD must delivery It to me in the following Days... So that they I Will ask them for that latest update which allows you turn or the beeps alerts!!

[@Neilhoh3]

@@TallPaulTech You didnt get it? Guess you wouldnt know because you fucked around with the fuses.

[@SuspectAccount]

Shouldnt be turning off the front cross braking especially, and child presence detection I wouldn't think. You should be able to leave the speed sign reading, but turn off the alert. That way you can always glance and know what speed you should be doing. You can change the indicator noise to traditional blinker easy enough on Atto 3, I assume on that too. Which also deletes the start up noise. Deleting your cruise control makes the whole thing not worthwhile IMO though I do agree you should be able to save your preferences and not have to go in each time and change it. Hopefully BYD provide an over the air update on this.

[@vasil7410]

ANCAP is not as anal as Euro NCAP so the top of my list is to put pressure on BYD Australia to allow us to save preferences.

[@Neilhoh3]

Fuck that. Who cares what speed you SHOULD be doing? I'll not be told what to do.

[@johantoong4357]

THANK you for this. This car is just about to launch here in Malaysia and I've pretty much decided on this over the Tesla M3, but these annoying software tics and dings really didn't help with that decision. I'd do this on the first day, but does it turn cruise control completely off? I tend to use that quite a bit on a day to day.

[@marquisdemoo1792]

We have the UK version of this vehicle so it maybe it a bit different, but if you indicate before pulling out of lane, as you should even for potholes, then it will not fight you as it suppresses lane guidance. The only issue is the light indicator press brings the indicators on for too short a period so if you are not into rapid lane changes on the motorway then it grabs you whilst changing lane. Of course, if you put the indicator on fully this is not an issue, but you have to cancel the indicator once in lane.

[@Nevexo287]

Indicating around a pothole?! Crazy.

[@marquisdemoo1792]

@@Nevexo287 Common sense applies, it depends on the size of the obstruction, but what would be crazy is changing your line on the road without checking behind you and indicating.

[@Nevexo287]

@@marquisdemoo1792 Fair. The problem comes from people that indicate at every opportunity, when the action they’re about to perform makes absolutely no difference to anybody. It ends up with people throwing the indicator on, in place of checking it’s safe. A bad habit to get into. Your checks are only good enough if you know there’s no reason to indicate (or of course, there is a reason to indicate!). We cross the centre line all the time in England, our roads are small and we park on them. Indicating around a parked car when it’s very obvious to the person behind me that I’m in fact, not, going to run into it, just leads to an ambiguous signal. Am I about to turn right, or am I about to move over slightly and not cause you any problems.

[@marquisdemoo1792]

@@Nevexo287 Try bicycling in the UK. Invariably the first car in a line of cars will indicate to pull past you, none of the others behind it will indicate., they have become carriages in a train.

[@az3d147]

If it's running android what about gaining root and bypassing that way?

[@TallPaulTech]

I've had the car for two days. I can't do everything at once!

[@az3d147]

@TallPaulTech no drama's, wasn't sure if I was on the right path! BTW love the video's mate!

[@FSO_PT]

I think if you just turn off the warning off or to vibration only when you turn car on it keeps the settings

[@deserialized]

About indicator sound. If I remember correctly there are two sounds to choose from. The other sounds normal.

[@wcrash9361]

He knows this but he gets less views if he says it’s a great car

[@JoshuaFawcett]

The noises and having to pull a fuse to make the car function "normally" along with a dozen amber warnings would be a deal breaker for me. It'd be interesting to know if the sounds and settings could be modified by somehow accessing the onboard computer/ecu. People have been modding ECUs in ICE cars for decades, but it may be different in these. I imagine that the sound would be controlled by a linux powered infotainment given its coming out of the speakers, which 9/10 can be "hacked" into with enough time and effort.

[@TallPaulTech]

You know what?... you're right, people have been midding old cars for decades as you say. I get the feeling that a lot of people who jump on board with these new silly cars are the sort who are too afraid to touch things, and therefore think that nothing should ever be done. I was never into modding cars before, but now with this new stuff I kind of am. It's an indication of the new generation who are afraid to give anything a go themselves, and are of the 'govern me harder' attitude. It's a bit sad really.

[@pete3897]

They're a product of the environment they're brought up in.

[@Clove_Parma]

Hey Paul, am I right that these are ATO (ATC) plug fuses? Just trying to figure out so I know what gear I'll need to hardwire a dashcame for when I park mine (getting it later this month apparently). Cheers mate

[@TallPaulTech]

I'm going to use a fuse tap for mine when it gets here

[@malster181]

You know you change settings, or change the sounds Paul?

[@TallPaulTech]

Yeah, just did it.

[@wcrash9361]

@@TallPaulTechmaybe redo your video then to stop you looking like a complete fool

[@TallPaulTech]

says the guy commenting on everyone's comments

[@wcrash9361]

@@TallPaulTech so your now even trolling comments on your own lame video lol what a loser lol Plenty of comments agreeing with me how pathetic your video was done showing your total ignorance

[@JohnLamjohnlsl]

I will just not Drive this, If any unlucky reason you get into a crash, most likely your insurance will say you are insurance is voited because you are tampering with the car safety system

[@TallPaulTech]

If I were to cause a crash, I'm liable anyway. At least now I actually have control of the car, and not have it do its own stupid shit to me. Think about it.

[@johantoong4357]

@@TallPaulTech I'm more concerned in the instance that the accident wasn't your fault, or if the fault was a little bit blurred and some investigation was needed. Would these actions affect the insurance claim at all in Oz?

[@auPython]

You do realize that by disabling the ADAS and you do have an accident, insurance companies being the asshats that they are, may not cover you saying you modified the safety systems of the car. This is, in my opinion, just a reasonable hypothesis of what could happen in the future. I don't deny the audio warnings would get annoying in the Seal. My Ford Escape Vignale has these systems but fortunately the way I operate the car, they are nothing more than I minor nuisance. Also, the lane keeping assist is excellent in my car as is speed sign recognition.

[@TallPaulTech]

You do realise that if I drive into the other side of the road into someone it would be my fault anyway, regardless?

[@Crazy--Clown]

Haha stupid assessors wouldn't even know what a fuse looks like. This car reminds me of the Boeings Max, doesn't like human input

[@auPython]

I am not talking responsibility, I am talking coverage. Leaving you, or your estate, open to financial liability.@@TallPaulTech

[@antronx7]

@@auPython Tell your ins. co in writing that your car does not have ADAS features when you sign up. Should be no different than insuring old car without all this safety shit.

[@hanneshonigmeister8454]

Kind of strange, because the Seal I tested here in Europe a month ago, didnt make the weird noise at the beginning. The indicator sound was also "normal", not this strange "dingdong". Generally speaking, I really didnt like the cluttered Dash and Screen in the middle. Its just ... too many little icons and signs everywhere. Other than that, i really liked driving it. Felt much comfier than a Model 3 and I like the outside look more.

[@TallPaulTech]

Those custom noises for indicators and startup can be turned off. All my icons on that screen have gone since pissing off the fuses for that lethal ADAS shit, then reset Android.

[@SamiPaju]

I wonder why none of the car reviews talk about this stuff... Things like this would genuinely piss me off so much that I'd just return the car :/

[@TallPaulTech]

Because the world's turned into submitting soft cocks.

[@GFRS]

Apart from your Disney Soundtracks, this is exactly my gripe with the VAG's MEB platform of electric vehicles as well. In my case, the Q4 e-Tron, but all the MEBs are like this. To disable specifically the lane holder, I need to press and hold the button at the end of the _wiper_ handle for no less than four seconds. Personally, I will not even attempt to reverse engineer anything. I will simply add some electronics to the steering column to emulate press and hold of this button at every startup. Caveat Emptor - I have not truly researched this, but rumors are that EU directives now dictates that _if_ the vehicle is equipped with ADAS, it _shall_ be activated on each and every start-up of the vehicle. And it _shall_ be a PITA to disable. What is more easily confirmed is that eCall became mandatory on 31 March 2018, and «Intelligent speed "assistance"» plus «Reversing detection with camera or sensors» and «(Driver) Attention warning» became mandatory on 1. January 2024. As is «Event Data Recorder (EDR)» aka. "Black Box" by Amendment 160 to Annex I of Regulation (EU) 2019/2144. They also mandated some «Alcohol interlock installation _facilitation_» for good measure. More to be progressively introduced on the roadmap up until 2029. Additionally, remember that the design criteria for the EU Galileo GNSS navigation system was that is should be precise enough to facilitate virtual toll roads. Oh btw, automotive Cybersecurity measures to stop reverse engineering from occurring is now also mandatory. There went your Right to Repair, by courtesy of the EU Council…

[@TallPaulTech]

Don't forget the kill switch they want installed.

[@davejhanssens]

Strange that these issues exist in the seal as most don't in the Atto 3. The indicator sound is selectable between a chime and a normal click. The ADAS steering bump, can be turned off by your thumb with a button on the dash. And the speed alert i have only heard over 20km over the speed limit but i have turn off. I wonder why they allowed the Atto to be able to do all this, and not the seal

[@MrSinthesys]

This had to clear the new 2023 ancap safety regs, the atto was under the old one.

[@louischristos9593]

Hi Paul, following in from our previous dialogue, I strongly complained to BYD. They took the car back for a day and toned its all down, although still not acceptable, not comfortable, very challenging! Today : not only the road black snakes, I was getting thrown all over the road from the power poles overhead electrical cable shadows on the road 🤣🤣 The only way this will get sorted, if many people continually raise Thank you 😊

[@TallPaulTech]

Well, since I pulled those two fuses out, the car behaves. I hate to break it to you, but nobody in a company is going to help you, because nobody in a company gives a shit about what you want or think. That's the state of things these days.

[@louischristos9593]

You would think they should be held accountable for selling cars for not disclosing this material fact…. and they keep selling as we speak. I doubt very much that each salesman is advising the buyer….. I will give them the opportunity…however I think you may be right!! What if only taking out the one fuse? I bloody use the cruise control a lot….bugger!! Have you tried that ? I sent Byd your video link plus another re the same complaint, along with my formal dissatisfaction. We will see they are good citizens!!

[@stephanelambert1846]

How was it with the tesla? Did you encounter the same issues?

[@TallPaulTech]

The Tesla has been a cunt for years. I did a video on that, where they added a default warning that previous wasn't default. Now for the past 5 years, every single time I got into the car to drive somewhere I have to go into the menu and turn it off because it defaults on. I wasn't going to go through that again on this one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apyyZ62pZt6sgqM

[@uselessessentials]

Lol at the "I'll do whatever the fuck I want". Subscribed.

[@TallPaulTech]

Mate, that's how it ought to be! Cheers

[@CptMishMashVonRandom]

Would it be possible to replace the audio files that are played maybe? I think you mentioned in the last video that it seems to be android based so it should be fairly easy to get root access. You may even be able to change the default parameters for the ADAS in there so that you can keep cruise control too.

[@TallPaulTech]

Everything's easy in principle. Actually doing things is a different story.

[@huntchris]

Agree with the ADAS woes. I also have a Seal and feel like I'm performing a flight cockpit check every time I get in just to turn things off for the drive! I do like the cruise control though so I don't think I'll be pulling the fuses out anytime soon. I was in Sydney traffic today and loved the way the cruise control managed the crawl. On the indicator sound, there's a setting that persists to change that. Also, I don't get that welcome sound so I must have turned that off somewhere (accidentally!). I think I saw a setting to increase the sound volume in relation to the Spotify also... i.e. may be each app can have its own sound levels. Don't quote me though.

[@TallPaulTech]

Yeah, the indicators are normal, and the start/stop shit is gone too. They're part of the branding setting. I don't use Spotify or anything other than USB music, but as I said I'll be getting a proper stereo in this anyway and bypass the lot :)

[@borsossandor]

Hello @huntchris! Which seal do you have awd or rwd? How long can you ride in motorway? What is your consumption there? I am planning to buy one. Are you satisfied with it? Thank you

[@christopherhunt9150]

@@borsossandor​​⁠Seal Premium. 500km+ real range. Happy with it but the ADAS and Tesla charging issues bbmust get fixed.

[@Garezinator]

Please tell me where it is on the BYD dolphin :(

[@25566]

This is a terrible car. I can turn all that off on mine and it remembers the settings. Now you've had to ruin cruise control and the emergency braking which are essentials. And every time you turn on the car you get warnings about ADAS being unavailable... I would return that piece of crap, they managed to make a worse software experience than Tesla

[@TallPaulTech]

I don't know about that. Tesla software is pretty fucking useless. Then, they bloat it so it's slow, pathetic and useless.

[@ricardougalde4775]

Hello didn’t work on dolphin model I remove de fusible and the sound under 30kph still making me crazy

[@kukuwang7579]

the chinese version allows you to turn off the startup music and change the turning signal sound to a normal one, but i am not sure if the australian version can do the same

[@TallPaulTech]

I've still got more poking around to do.

[@benjaminprieto6605]

I love the car, but I have to turn off the assistane everytime, Ill try the fuse trick Question, does this turn off all the assistante, the emergency breaks have save me from stupid bumps in other cars in the past...

[@lowguidoschopshop]

There is a menu option to turn off the silly sounds of the indicators and alerts. Mine was playing loud music outside the car whenever I was driving under 20ks.. its supposed to warn pedestrians that a silent car is coming, but it was more like I was the Icecream man driving down the street. There's options to change it to like a spaceship sound, or just some other high potched sound people think electric cars might make.. but I turned that ish off quick smart.

[@TallPaulTech]

Too bad, it's still getting a custom stereo in.

[@lowguidoschopshop]

​@@TallPaulTech im not against custom stereos as you should well know. But i feel that some software changes should sort your problems out. And then you can still keep the quite nice interface that the BYD has.

[@TallPaulTech]

You're talking to a guy who wants a bull bar on his P100D :) @@lowguidoschopshop

[@fuba44]

By pulling the fuse, did you also disable the auto break?

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

Yes and Acc. And cross traffic its a stupid solution.

[@seamillo]

What if you only pull one of the fuses? Does each fuse control different ADAS features? That could be useful if the annoying stuff is all under one fuse.

[@DarrenMossAU]

I am surprised the car doesn't have driver profiles that are either aligned with the key fob or something you can select that adjusts seats, radio, sound settings (including indicator noises), etc. Love the plates :)

[@pummyy]

Why bother buying this and pay for all these features just to turn it off? I do agree. It is annoying at times with all this assistance. As I have a cars with and without driving assistance. I hardly miss the system when i'm driving the one without

[@pummyy]

@@scotteverett5932 yeah same here 0 stars without AEB. But yeah atleast you can disable as simple as that.

[@hughjanus7354]

Dong ding ding dong - that sounds almost like a slur, innit. The ride seems choppy AF, did they forget to remove the delivery suspension bump stops during PDI? PS just noticed the plate... mate how did your local authorities not catch that

[@uv6er]

where did you spot it? (I didn't)

[@vasil7410]

Thanks for the video. Personally, I am going to put pressure on BYD Australian to fix the bloody software. The more people that complain, the more chance they will do it. I'm still learning about the car and the WiFi functionality is another buggy part of the car. At least we have everything controlled by software, they have the capability to do OTA updates to fix it. My understanding is that the software is actually being modified to some degree in Sydney for Australian cars, so maybe that's a good thing.

[@TallPaulTech]

My phone didn't like the bluetooth connection, even though it connect and car said it downloaded contacts. The Android car thing didn't work though. I'm not worried, was just playing around.

[@vasil7410]

@@TallPaulTech I got Bluetooth working fine. Android Auto, however, is a pain in the arse if you enable it because it automatically starts every time the phone connects to the car. To access the car's menus - to disable the annoying ADAS bits - you have to exit Android Auto anyway. I have never used Android Auto before so I don't know if it's the same on other cars. I have disabled it.

[@TallPaulTech]

I'd like to figure out a way to get a video feed onto the screen somehow. I could do something with that.

[@lucasberner]

Thanks for the video. My question: isn´t it possible to turn off all the anoying things by VOICE CONTROLL? Did You try it? Maybe it is possible..... Greets from Italy

[@mogensen84]

If you live in the EU, you're not going to have these issues. I've had my Seal for several days now and doesn't have any of these issues. It sounds like a normal car and only beeps at me one time, if I go above the speedlimit .. That's it.

[@Robert-nz2qw]

Did you buy that car unseen??

[@Joram0611]

The whole ADAS system is, in most new cars, part of the NCAP safety system. Even western cars have that nowadays to get the highest NCAP rating… the problem though is exactly like you said: it takes away control of a car where you're responsible for whatever happens anyway. It doesn't make much sense: if the ADAS system decides that staying in a lane is more important than avoiding a bicycle, it will jog the steering wheel. If you then hit a person, you're the one going to jail for it (or get fined at least). So thanks for showing how to disable it, I'm sure it works similarly in other cars as well :)

[@Joram0611]

@@wcrash9361 What you're describing is correct, but you're still talking about software. Even Tesla, which is said to have the best (ADAS) software, still makes mistakes. And in case of a near-collision you don't always use your indicator lights, not can the software always be 100% correct (bad lighting or rain can sometimes be a problem for example). Just because the software will "do what it's supposed to do" during situations where the software will judge a situation being dangerous, that still doesn't mean that it will take the right course of action. Aside from that, if the software does make a mistake and you simply "let it do what it's supposed to do", then the drive will still be held responsible for the damages. Your last sentence doesn't even begin to make sense. Software isn't flawless, and plenty of people prefer being in total control of the car's behavior. That has nothing to do with speeding or tailgating.

[@Joram0611]

@@wcrash9361 like I said, you're not making any sense. Software isn't perfect, which is shown time and time again with these half baked ADAS type systems. If it starts nudging or correcting you, that means you're not entirely in control. Also, please try to use some capitals and .'s in your sentence, you're making less and less sense now. And are you able to keep the responses ontopic or would you like to keep trolling?

[@Foxy_proxy]

Perhaps try and burn the fuses and put them back in, could be the same benefit without it being as evident to insurance companies.

[@mikenewman4078]

Any owner who drives one of these vehicles in Byron Shire without pulling those fuses risks their lives and the lives of their family. In Byron Shire pot holes are never repaired, instead someone paints around them with DyMark. The roads are narrow and windy and totally unsuitable for pretend AI.

[@mikenewman4078]

I need to add BYD isn't alone with this problem. I'm talking to you VW. Maybe the failed software is actually German.

[@TallPaulTech]

@@mikenewman4078 I can't believe that not only is this automated shit in cars allowed, it's actually being called for. It's insanity.

[@mikenewman4078]

@@TallPaulTech Previously a 5 star safety rating meant something . The electronics as safety ain't it. On occasions even ABS is a problem forcing the driver to try and outsmart it, assuming you have enough distance. Phantom braking is quite a scary one, given that tailgaters exist.

[@mogensen84]

I have 0 issues with my Seal here in Denmark. I barely changed anything since I got it, cause there wasn't really anything that was annoying me - I didn't take out any fuses. Sure, it will beep if you go above the speedlimit .. But any new car will do this. It's hands down the best car I've ever had (previous EV was a Audi Q4). You're an absolut tool if you can't figure out how to disable lane assist .. Seeing as there is a key for it on the steering wheel.

[@TallPaulTech]

Did you not watch the video?

[@mogensen84]

@@TallPaulTech Yes, sadly I did. That's 9mins of my life I'll never get back.

[@TallPaulTech]

Could have saved a couple from commenting then

[@benjaminprieto6605]

What key are you talking about?

[@wcrash9361]

@@TallPaulTechmaybe delete you video now you’ve admitted the issues can be changed or turned off and it was just your incompetence that was an issue

[@AnarchyEnsues]

I guess you are going to packet sniff the CAN commands and then automate the commands when you turn it on. Adas really is a joke, its in every car because you cant get 5 stars without it. it shouldn't be used at all on local roads. Road design and chaotic driving situations, these little sub 100w adas units have no hope. And the phantom breaking is a massive pain in the ass. I do a lot of highway driving, and it does work very well in that environment, its a more contained environment, less random lane events, its still a dumb system, and you still have to pay attention and react befor it over reacts for you. In my new ford ranger, it has radar crusie control, you change lanes coming up to a red light with crusie control still on... It was foot to the floor accelerate, and then foot to the floor break at the last second once it picks up the car waiting at the lights.. its distance to reconise the car in front is frightening small. Telsas latest isnt much better. Auto steer on local steets in unusable. Its not as great as its raved

[@TallPaulTech]

Yeah, I'll get around to the CAN bus at some point.

[@simon-c2y]

Well done, you just made the car driveable. Loss of cruise control is bad though.

[@TallPaulTech]

Yeah, but this was day 2 of owning the car. I may do something a little more in depth in future.

[@jamesjarman5003]

does that disable the emergency autonomous breaking? that's one i'd like to keep

[@gunsparky]

Yes it does. That's exactly why I disconnected it.

[@pete3897]

I can't stand all the modern EV noises! I just silenced my ZE1 Leaf completely, then re-added the indicator tock noise back by monitoring the CAN bus and pulsing a small speaker when the right packet is seen :)

[@TallPaulTech]

See, that's the sort of shit I like. Where's your video on that?

[@pete3897]

@@TallPaulTech lol, I only did it for the Mrs! She said it was too eerie with no noise at all. So she gets a curtosey soft-switch for it that defaults to OFF every time heh :)

[@pete3897]

@@TallPaulTech no video, but I did a write up. I posted a link, but YT blocked it. Try searching mynissanleaf and silencing the ze1

[@franciscoshi1968]

​@@TallPaulTechI also did some hacking of the CAN bus on an MG. I added one pedal driving and fixed the cruise control. I had a look at the Atto3 but can't add one pedal. The VCU is in the same processor as the motor controller. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXLQgGSNeq6IhrMsi=EYIDfus8AHvsNYKw

[@davedonnelly8681]

Thanks for being honest with the issues you’re finding.

[@TallPaulTech]

Just saying it how it is.

[@davedonnelly8681]

@@TallPaulTech knowing what you know now would you still buy it over a model 3 highland ?

[@TallPaulTech]

What's a model 3 highland? @@davedonnelly8681

[@davedonnelly8681]

@@TallPaulTech 2024 model 3, facelift. Stupid name

[@louischristos9593]

Hey Paul, the worst you haven’t experienced as yet I see. Trying to turn left at a T junction can be challenging…. Car braked on two separate occasions on me placing me in a difficult position with nose sticking out on to main road. What a headache, plus I got a headache from the brake jarring…. Sure next couple of days. I was simply trying to merge with busy traffic and in safe manner. The Driver coming down the road went off at me for pulling out and suddenly stopping, I had no control :/ Hopefully enough owners will write in and complain to reassess this. Unfortunately I like/need my cruise control for the kms I drive. I sent your KZbin video to BYD so they start to think seriously about a remedy!!…although I suspect toy may have made contact.

[@TallPaulTech]

No I didn't experience that, because I pissed that whole shitty system off about 5 minutes after getting the car. I'd like cruise control too, but there is no normal cruise control anymore. I haven't used it in the Tesla for years. It's annoying that the last time I had cruise control that I actually controlled was in an old Lancer.

[@yggdrasil9039]

The Litmus test of all technology (and the first question you should ask of any tech) has nothing to do with its functionality. It's: 'How easy is it to turn off?'

[@good2freelance1]

I believe you can change on the settings. The problem is, why is there No dash cam ???

[@SalkoSalcinovic]

Just bought one of these and it's really annoying that I can't just switch it off without having to disassemble the car. My current car allows me to do it without having to do it every time.

[@TallPaulTech]

I've never looked back. It's totally under my control, and doesn't do any dangerous swerving. It seems accidents caused by these systems don't always get reported as such. It's scary.

[@zyzz1992]

This video is comedy gold 😂 Btw, is this standard across all seals throughout the world? I just visited their showroom here in Malaysia and tested the car. The seals here have all those annoying sounds off and settings saved and no ding dong, dong ding sound when indicating.

[@TallPaulTech]

So many people are complaining about this shit. It's the nanny state world being shit.

[@_BangDroid_]

Totally agree with that saying. If they want to have the great power to control a rolling weapon, they should be more responsible. Not steer you into oncoming traffic. That shit should be recalled before someone's injured or killed. Where's the government on this? Outrageous.

[@TallPaulTech]

You're right, but I wouldn't be expecting any government to give us control back of.... frankly anything. I hear in Europe they're bring in kill switches for new cars so they can be remotely stopped.

[@ulfw]

I'd prefer a software solution/hack to this hardware hack frankly

[@cjssurf]

Of fuck thats what i have to look forward to. No thanks I'll keep my diesel a while longer

[@bridicot]

That jerking sensation from your car's ADAS when you try to change lanes without signaling? It's a nudge to remind you to drive more safely. Remember, it's not just about your driving enjoyment; it's about keeping everyone on the road safe.

[@TallPaulTech]

Nothing about that automated bullshit keeps anyone safe.

[@12Hak]

I think you may be doing the wrong channel. A tech channel is about using the tech and making it work@@TallPaulTech

[@TallPaulTech]

I made the car work properly@@12Hak

[@antronx7]

how about you remember to mind your own fing business

[@vasil7410]

There are two systems, one that tries to keep you within the lane, the other which tries to keep you centred in the lane. It's the first that interacts with the indicator, as you've described. It's the second system which is downright dangerous.

[@waynej747]

If it’s steering the car into oncoming traffic, that’s not “annoying”, that’s a “product recall”!

[@zforce69]

But but but it's an EV, the can do no wrong.

[@Jonathan-L]

Apparently the lane keep assist system also gets confused with 'tar snakes' as if they're some protected species. I miss the good old days of running over real snakes.

[@TallPaulTech]

I just miss the good old days.

[@evlo8059]

5:55 so do you buy these new cars or do manufacturers pay you? If you do buy it, why?

[@TallPaulTech]

That makes no sense.

[@evlo8059]

​@@TallPaulTechso you do pay for the car that is rolling spyware actively trying to kill you and that does make sense?

[@Le-Prawn]

How thee fuck did this car get a 5 star safety rating...

[@TallPaulTech]

Safety doesn't actually mean safe anymore it seems. It's just a tick in the box exercise.

[@johantoong4357]

Safety ratings are based on how safe the passengers are IN THE EVENT of a crash. And it looks like the Seal is very proud of the 5 star rating. So proud in fact, it seems eager to show it off in a crash 😄

[@richardliu8998]

It is EU safty standard. These safty settings can be turned off permanently in China. Maybe BYD see OZ as European country.😅

[@TallPaulTech]

Australia always gets the hand-me-downs of other countries.

[@dann5515]

how to turned it off permanently without taking the fuse out? I dont wanna hear any sound everytime i indicating the light or keeping lane or even start up the engine when baby is at sleep!

[@vesanupponen2727]

EU wants to supervise people, sounds like communism

[@afs5609]

fully agree with your comments I have a 2003 Subaru without all the bells & whistles, I need to upgrade to a new car without all this annoying shit you turned off, in my opinion its distracts you from being alert to traffic etc thats around you, I don't trust AI, I want to be in control, not being controlled, thats the danger we need to be aware of, if it warned you without taking control of the car I may find it acceptable in time, as for TESLA autonomous driving what a joke, should be banned.

[@BillyWallace785]

Hes right thought. I’ve test driven this car and its technology is for the tip!

[@yggdrasil9039]

Brand new car and you have to pull the fuses out of the fusebox to disable ADAS lol. 😆 This is a massive pain and actually makes the car more dangerous. Car companies need to be careful, because if ADAS is found to have caused a crash, eg a potentially fatal head-on, then those companies would be liable big time.

[@repatch43]

Car companies are doing what your government is REQUIRING them to do, best direct your anger at the appropriate place.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

You know you lose your insurance when you do that?

[@TallPaulTech]

That didn't seem to worry Tesla with the crashes they cause.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@TallPaulTech True, Tesla does not care for its customers only to make Elon rich. Right?

[@repatch43]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 source?

[@BGraves]

On the Tesla when you try to do a double lane change with that feature turned on it rips the wheel out of your hand if you're just using 1 hand 😂 surely when they tested that feature they didn't consider a double lane change?

[@CubbyTech]

It's amazing how these 'features' are aimed at the Chinese market. A lot of these are aimed 'new' Chinese drivers, and are somewhat aloof/careless. The sounds and ADAS stuff should be able to be turned off permanently - I assume there will be some 'hacks that may help with this.

[@LyndonMain]

In absolutely no way. All this, especially the fact it resets on restart, are to get ncap ancap etc 5 star. It is the western market that is driving this, locally they don't have it. You are not just wrong, you're entirely backwards. These absolutely should be settings remembered, but this is common to lots of cars because of the safety rating systems we employ, which is silly.

[@wcrash9361]

Nothing to do with Chinese market or drivers . In most cars you can turn these off and turn off any sounds too

[@americannumber2]

How old are you? 5?

[@TallPaulTech]

5 and a half thank you

[@HermanWillems]

@americannumber2, go learn some CS bro instead of complaining if someone else is 5. What are you 4 ?

[@dann5515]

what r ya? 80? still clueless?

[@compsourcegoogle1284]

You can set it all up in menus to your liking, I guess too many choices for you :)

[@vasil7410]

The problem is the car doesn't save your preferences. Apparently due to Euro NCAP regulations.

[@dpg2004]

"ill do what the fuck i want" - man you crack me up

[@TheGreyfoo]

Hi Paul, thanks for this vid - appreciate the candour. I'm contemplating a BYD, but this vid aptly demonstrate that the vehicle software is sorely lacking in common sense. So I'm holding out, hoping they update the software for all the vehicles. At the most basic level, an EV should remember settings and let us turn off the unpredictable, potentially dangerous assisted safety rubbish. More chance of that happening than Tesla 3s getting actual indicator stalks, right? :) Can't wait to see ZEEKR and Xiomi enter the field - hopefully the new competition will inspire some better, less flakey software in otherwise awesome vehicles. Come on BYD, fix this please!

[@TallPaulTech]

All any of these things need are user options that are stored... you know, to give the actual owner/operator control of the device. Simple. They will never do that though, as it's all about their power/money so it's not in their interest, unless their money starts walking away.

[@Cybernetic_Systems]

Wow, those noises and ADAS are really annoying. Ideally you could disable those features via the OBD port instead of having to pull the fuses.

[@vasil7410]

I have an idea for your next video, since you seem game to rip your car apart 😂. Can the plastic bits be removed from the alloy wheels? The wheels look damn good as they are but curious to see if they look even better without the "aero" bits. The stock Model 3 wheels look fantastic under crappy but easily removed plastic aero covers.

[@TallPaulTech]

I don't think I'll be touching the wheels any time soon. I was just pulling the doors apart, and the glove box out to plan for dashcam/stereo. Just getting to know what's where in this thing.

[@ziggyds]

someone should create an app that you can sideload the sets the settings to what you want on bootup

[@TallPaulTech]

That would be a top option. It's not something I could really make but the idea is good.

[@heel57]

why did you get this car in the first place?

[@TallPaulTech]

Because it's quicker than walking

[@horrorcoder]

Nowadays every new car have ADAS mandatory enabled at restart

[@dmhboag5882]

Did a test drive in seal and indicators made a normal tic tok sound, must be in manu

[@Devil_Inside_LV]

Taking out fuses is the next level of bodge! 🤣 I guess it works for now with BYD, but will probably be fixed in some future OTA update and you will not be able to start without them. Why not just contact manufacturer and express your disappointment? They might listen and fix those issues.

[@TallPaulTech]

You're living in a fantasy world if you think they'll listen.

[@benjaminprieto6605]

Sadly part of the problem are european laws, and as most countries copy them, there will not be an official way to turn them off. To make this change, you need, at least one big country, to by law make the manufacturer responsible for the assistant

[@wcrash9361]

No need to he’s had dozens tell him he’s wrong and had zero idea about this car but he said he’s learnt now

[@DigitalArbiter]

You cannot permanently disable these ADAS features because of European Union standarts. You can buy America only or Asia only cars... And also you need an education.

[@TallPaulTech]

I can do what I want.

[@DigitalArbiter]

@@TallPaulTech well, you are right.

[@GolLeeMe]

Overactive ADAS would be so annoying. Pity about the cruise control though.

[@Robbie_Wozzlegummich]

Easily triggered aren't we. Do you go out in public often?

[@teslabot6517]

I don't get all those noises at start-up. However, it is quite frightening when it jerks the wheel and then constantly bings and bongs. I love the car but I turn lane and speed off before I drive the car. These systems are desperately requiring a software update.

[@remakeit2628]

100%

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

​@@wcrash9361done that too. Only needs to shut of. The sign online setting. One button. No problem.

[@GameNOWRoom]

1:40 Fav quote of the day

[@shaonian]

I have a dolphin in NZ, I have to turn off the speed limit crap every time I start the car. But I test drove the mg4 before buying the dolphin and it didn't have these problems. But I really wanted the big screen of the dolphin.

[@accesser]

Nice work man, agree we should have controls over those annoying sounds, I hope they don't try to get smart and push a software update to detect the fuse removed :P Hopefully we get the smaller byd dolphin in Brisbane soon so I can have a look at one

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

Have a Dolphin. The new update has killed all of the sounds. The only thing you need to turn on is online signs. One button. That's it.

[@accesser]

@@frankbjrnsten7189 I'm watching the Dolphin, Hopeful for a gen2, if they add Vehicle-to-Grid or even vehicle to home v2h it would tick all the right boxes for me