Cybernetics for the 21st Century? Or Ontology and Politics of Information in the First Cybernetics

[@ctrl_alt_create]

thank you , my extremely cursed youtube algorithm , for never passing up gems like this one

[@Adam-gf2fg]

Very cool video! Thank you for uploading. With regards to the implications about AI, my sense is that the ultimate victory of the cyberneticists should come in the just-falling-short of present AI strategies. They were right that the brain is a functional, embodied organ, and what we have done with our mass data is not overcome this but approximate a second reality only parallel to our own. Its why AI can still get smarter but not make basic inferences like if A=B then B=A as recent papers showed. It's why the head of OpenAI (and others) says they're not training GPT5 because the scaling is falling off, but they are considering that 'maybe some symbolic reasoning' or some other shift in paradigm will deliver AGI. In my opinion, it will not happen, because mind is fully embodied, and no matter how vast a digital reduction of reality becomes, it is not reality. If you wanted to approximate reality fully, you would not seek raw compute and dead data, but the active inputs of billions of cells and subsystems... which sounds familiar.

[@aerobique]

interesting . 🌏🌎🌍✊