Film Den: IT, Part 4 (Video Review/Retrospective)

[@nickmattio3397]

Never, ever, refuse Tim Curry asking u if u want ur balloon

[@DasKame]

"Never trust an Tim Curry in heavy Make up"

[@Barbayat79]

As much as I hate that Eddie died, I kind of love the scene when he goes up against IT - it always felt to me like he was sacrificing himself for his friends, giving Beverly enough time to get IT. The other three were clearly vulnerable and unable to do anything - these were the only people he felt connected to, that he loved and he couldn't bear anything happen to them and regardless whether he had hoped to get away with his "acid attack" or not- that he found the courage to do so is so badass in my book. Watched the series again a few days ago and I still love it, I just have thing for long winded mini-series that really highlight the characters (I guess not if I didn't like them but usually if people bother to focus on the characters, there is always something to them that makes it interesting to watch them and their relation to the others ...) Plus I just don't feel scared by much anymore anyway, I really need to get sucked in deep to a story to feel frightened - I want to I so love feel my heart racing and that fear to turn off the light.

[@Helloitisstillme]

It's the eyes. The spider animatronic has big dumb googly eyes. I don't mind the creature looking weird and alien, but the face is too cartoonish in its features. It should have had black emotionless eyes like a shark or something.

[@societycrumbles]

One thing I always loved about this movie is that feeling of comradery between the characters. You really buy their friendship and grow attached to them. Each death feels really personal, like you're really loosing a friend. The kids did a great job. It also makes me nostalgic for being a kid and having childhood friendships. Even though I was obviously raised in different decade, the theme is universal.

[@Mathilde_Bruhn]

One thing I've noticed in a lot of Steven King stories is that he doesn't go for the whole "bad guy or monster is still alive" trope. I personally really hate that trope, because it just makes it feel like the entire thing is pointless and completely hopeless. I know there are people who find it more realistic, but I prefer a good and conclusive ending, which is why I choose to believe that It is gone for good and the remaining members of the Losers' Club got their happilly ever after. I think the laugh at the end could be symbolic of how, while the monster is dead, the conditions that allowed it to flourish are still there; It is basically the physical manifistation of things like racism, sexism, homophobia, abuse, and as long as those things exist, it's not entirely a victory. But there is hope; they beat It and they get to live their lives now free of all the things that held them down before

[@TheZipperDragon]

It's still alive. In several books after, there's hints that Pennywise lives. Personally, I believe that either, like Raiden from Mortal Kombat, you can only kill the mortal form it takes, but not IT itself, or it is reborn every 23 years.

[@avionpiscean33]

From what I've been told, the sex scene was meant to be about having to grow up way earlier than they should have, since they were thrown into quite an adult world from having to face It, along with the things they had to deal with growing up.

[@RinitaChan]

I watch a lot of horror movies with my mom, a few years ago we decided to watch this, (quick bit of background, she’s very scared of clowns and Pennywise kinda freaked her out a bit) and when the scene at 5:35 happened and we heard Bev’s response at 5:39 I thought it’d be pertinent to jokingly shout “That sounds like something A CLOWN WOULD SAY!” My mom laughs really hard, but continues the joke “Is that your clown-pole in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?!” Great mother-daughter bonding time.

[@Renkinjutsushi]

You're not alone in your love for the The Shining miniseries. It may drag at parts, but I love it. It's atmospheric and Jack's descent into madness is handled really well. I'd love to see you do a series on it.

[@Barbayat79]

I also love the tv series, it's not that I disliked the Kubrik movie but I never really felt that awed by it and when I saw the mini series I was really intrigued by how much detail it spent on the family dynamic, the dad's problems, Danny's abilities and how much stronger the mom came off. But then again I am sucker for interpersonal stuff more than outright scares (as honestly that more real scary stuff with the dad's problems, are so much more frightening than freaky ghosts to me)

[@squeethemog213]

I always love watching these. Even long after they come out. They're just enjoyable :D

[@TwilightRogue15]

I think I rewatched more Dena's videos than other creator's videos. They're always so enjoyable, and each one has it's own unique charm. It's hard to explain, but it's that feeling of genuineness along with her style that makes them so enjoyable.

[@squeethemog213]

Professor Persona I totally agree. They're always a delight :) Thank you Dena for your awesome content.

[@Cyborcat]

You guys rock. Thanks for the kind words ^.^

[@RTS-wg7ut]

Also, in case you're still wondering about the solidarity-sex part of the book- "I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it. The book dealt with childhood and adulthood -1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children-we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened. Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues." 　- Stephen King, according to one of the threads on the Stephenking.com forum; post dated Nov. 17, 2013 King confirmed the statement through his agent: "That sounds like my statement. To it I’d just add that it’s fascinating to me that there has been so much comment about that single sex scene and so little about the multiple child murders. That must mean something, but I’m not sure what." (Keep in mind that Stephen King is probably a first-wave liberal and, as fit the atmosphere of _his_ heyday, remains seemingly more concerned with the public's "sensitivity to those issues" than with any of his own. That's not to disqualify King's point about America's quickness to gloss over the high juvenile body count…though I think it does come off a little deflective to me.)

[@SpiderMwa]

No mention of Tim Curry being the super snobby concierge in Home Alone 2? Still, Pennywise is his best role in my opinion. Right next to his role in Rocky Horror Show. Great review of IT, I really like the series as well, all because of Tim Curry.

[@MrZig-ot1bu]

Another good roll of Tim Curry was of Long John Silver in the Muppet's Treasure Island. Makes me want to see him play that character in a non Muppets version.

[@FunFilmFare]

A cool scarier idea they could’ve explored: have IT exploit Bev’s sharp aiming skills, by tricking her into (nearly) killing her friends. Imagine IT took the form of Bev’s father or abusive BF (or whatever), she shoots at that but instead hits Mike nearly killing him. This would better explain her emotional breakdown while waiting in the hospital for Mike.

[@KaijuCommander]

Personally, I like the spider monster design from the end of the miniseries, I like the idea of It's "true form" being something vaguely akin to a spider yet also alien/demonic as opposed to just literally being an oversized, earthly species of spider (but I confess I'm not inherently afraid of spiders, hence why I prefer the more monstrous, eldritch abomination angle for It's appearance, to me that's just scarier). Also, as a fan of practical effects, I actually dig what they did with the prop design, it looks great for a tv miniseries monster from the early 90s, I feel too many people online are harsh on it (though I confess I'm a huge kaiju fan and love practical effects in general).

[@IAmHermaeusMora]

You go more into depth with this mini-series than most others have, and hearing your perspective makes me reconsider mine about the series. I'm starting to like it more now. I've always liked it, but I felt it was kind of campy, and I think that quite a bit less now. It has so many elements that are well-planted and pay-off superbly. What I love the most about this, though, is how IT preys on the very basic, primal childhood fears that specifically relate to the kids in the mini-series: Clowns, monsters, blood, and, ultimately, SPIDERS. I'm right there with you on that one.

[@jadegecko]

11:22 "Well, Junior Angler's the best you're gonna get out of ME, buddy!"

[@Cyborcat]

I'm a bit disappointed I didn't think of that first XD

[@crakatoot5480]

Poor Henry Bowers, they didn't have nearly enough of him in the new movie. Fun Fact: According to Tim Reid, Dennis Christopher and John Ritter, they guy playing the older Bowers, in the scene where he was wrestling with Reid, really went nuts. John Ritter and Dennis Christopher really had to struggle to get him off Reid.

[@doctorfeinstone6524]

He was in the new movie way more than the old one, assuming you mean the kid version

[@lucas5665]

"Beverly was like a doorknob and they each got a turn!" LMAO!

[@FarelForever]

ZOIDBERG?!?! Making Futurama jokes with Zoidberg?! Was this written with me in mind?!?!?!?! Dena, you're an amazing videomaker, you don't need to try so hard to appeal to me! .... but I do appreciate it xD

[@Cyborcat]

LOL. I quote "I'm not hearing a nooo!" all the time.

[@FarelForever]

I'm sure that makes conversations with you a lot more interesting !

[@lotus-prince]

"...the SAME...deviled egg?"

[@MK1MonsterOck1989]

*FUN FACT:* Tim Curry Also Played Nigel Thornberry From The Wild Thornberrys

[@thatmaninblack]

Eddy's Santa Claus, Easter bunny lines reminding me of the scene in the Exorcist III. "This I believe... I believe in death. I believe in disease. I believe in injustice, and inhumanity, and torture, and anger, and hate. I believe in murder. I believe in pain. I believe in cruelty, and infidelity. I believe in slime, and stink, and in every crawling, putrid thing, every possible ugliness and corruption, YOU SON OF A BITCH! I BELIEVE... in you." - I don't know which movie was first, the Exorcist III or the IT, since both came out in 1990.

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

*"THE EXORCIST III: Legion"* was released first on August 17, 1990 and *"IT"* aired on ABC in November 18-20, 1990.

[@Miyavisgirl1540]

9:16 You can see the fall mat from Bill's trip! I love finding flubs that make it in movies. ^^!

[@Cyborcat]

Oh wow, I don't know how I never caught that XD

[@Miyavisgirl1540]

Lol!

[@viraltang]

It's interesting to me that the Lucky Seven were much more brave and better prepaired when they we're kids. I feel like King trying to say something with that.

[@professorBofFPU]

Hope to hear about The Stand from you sometime. Also, have you ever considered doing a retrospective on Resident Evil like you diddling Silent Hill? I know they're very different series, but I'd be interested to hear your take on the story, the characters and the monsters beyond just your LP of RE1.

[@Cyborcat]

I'm honestly not a big enough fan of Resident Evil to cover it the way I cover Silent Hill games. Like I enjoy playing the first few games but I don't really follow the series overall that much.

[@brandname6]

Your videos on it and love of king have won my interest. Awesome content😊

[@Aaronwiles]

Loved this so much even if was in 4 parts, would love to see you cover Christine in the future.

[@Stevin20687]

10:02 I just now noticed that Georgie is missing his right arm. The things I miss.

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

I'm sorry, but when he kept going "Don't you want it?" I kept hearing the Fantanas. "Wanna Fanta, don't you wanna-"

[@SugaredViolette]

TheHeroOfTomorrow My friends and I noticed how it sounds like that too, and have made it a joke in our drunk rewatchings of the miniseries.

[@linkeffect82]

This was a great coverage of this freaky, heart warming and heart breaking mini series. Thanks Cyborcat!

[@Waggsification]

As someone who thinks the mini series was terrible and didn't particularly enjoy the book, it was really interesting to hear your positive thoughts on IT. Keep up the good work Dena!

[@Cyborcat]

Well, I appreciate the positive comment even if you didn't like the source material. Glad you liked the videos anyway ^.^

[@Waggsification]

Reading my comment back I realize that might've come across as really rude/sarcastic, I didn't mean it to! I just mean it's always nice to get a different perspective on something!

[@Cyborcat]

It's okay, I didn't think it was sarcastic.

[@DasKame]

Tales from the Crypt would be a nice Review for this Channel ;) ;) ;) Great Video as always, Funny, my first connections if i hear Tim Curry is Charlies Angels (the Movie) and Muppets Treasure Island

[@Cyborcat]

I'd love to cover some horror anthologies--maybe once I've finished Red Dwarf, I'll do some horror anthology series for my next Series Vlog.

[@DrZombieMoogle]

Pleeeeease do! 😁😁😁

[@ryanab7391]

Really enjoyed this series thanks for the in depth review of it Dena

[@Special_Iron]

My god, the spider was an absolute _nightmare_ in the book! Strangely, I felt that the climax in the remake was even more of a let-down. Loved watching these vids. Also, I loved Tim Curry as the butler in Clue. Final note, 5:40 burst out laughing at that part.

[@turkishvan2]

Tim Curry was Long John Silver in Muppet Treasure Island, and that is my favorite role of his.

[@alexlynn5111]

for me older green screens and animatronics generally make the monsters look more creepy-I just thought the final battle was just a little anti climatic and Eddie dying made me sad =[

[@alexlynn5111]

Also I really feel you about preferring horror movies that might fail to scar but have an interesting story and characters over movies that have a tense/scary atmosphere but have characters that are bland or boring or that i actively want to die.

[@DrZombieMoogle]

Uncanny Valley effect. Makes your brain very unnerved

[@Boombonicali]

You really do a great job with these. Thank you.

[@RoRo-pe8tm]

I loooved hearing your thoughts on this mini-series! The Stand is my all-time favorite so I hope you do that one too in the future!

[@Awakeandalive1]

Tim Curry also voiced Captain Hook in the early-90s cartoon "Fox's Peter Pan & The Pirates" -- because they were self-consciously trying to cleave closer to the book and veer away from Disney, his take on the character was as an amoral gentleman who valued fairplay and honor but (to quote the 7th Doctor) "scratch the Victorian veneer and there's something nasty underneath." His was the most compelling and threatening version of the character I've ever seen.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

If nothing else one thing I would like to point out is I get why Pennywise's final form is a Spider. He's all about fear and Spiders are the most common fear out there, even more than clowns. So it makes sense a creature that turns into whatever a person is scared of would mostly reseemble the thing most if not all people are afraid of.

[@AnimeFreakLucky7]

Aww, poor Eddie! That actually made me shed a tear:( The man playing Eddie is adorable!

[@fzysknr]

If you want to try the 1979 Salem's Lot miniseries, there's an alternate shorter cut (usually labeled "Salem's Lot: The Movie") that tightens up the pacing considerably. Unfortunately, it's never been released on DVD as far as I know (though it can be found on VHS), and even more unfortunately it cuts out the resolution to a few secondary characters' story arcs.

[@123mrblonde]

Love your videos super underrated keep up the good work.

[@Thegiddyowl]

Love this review! I know it takes a lot out of you but you did a really great job and it gave me something to forward to every Friday now that school and work have started up again lol. Now I have time to watch The Shining miniseries before you review it!

[@KiramidHead]

George Romero was originally going to direct this, and it was going to have a few more episodes. He left after ABC kept getting cold feet and constantly cut down on the run time. I think even Tommy Lee Wallace was supposed to make it as three parts at first, but there were last minute run time cuts he had to contend with. And I like The Shining miniseries alright, even if it is too long and some of the scenes don't really work.

[@TwilightRogue15]

If a horror movie has more characters I don't like than characters I do, it completely loses me. Even if it has scenes that would normally scare me, I get too annoyed to be scared and they just bore me. As for the review as a whole, you gave me a new appreciation for the mini-series. I thought it was alright, but I didn't really appreciate the differences when I first saw it, only noting how different it was and being annoyed by that. I rewatched it after your Part 1, and after that and your Part 3 adding to that, I can appreciate it a lot more.

[@MissAnimegrl]

Your earlier analogy between MLP and IT was good but off a bit. Swap Mike and Billy-- Billy is Twilight due to his ability to draw everyone together. He is the anchor of their friendship. Mike is Apple Jack, because he is honest, and he stayed where his roots are, like AJ.

[@NotWellKnown]

Pennywise Lives! Edit: Even though IT might not technically be just known as Pennywise, I think it's fair to call IT by that name. Stephen King has just called It Pennywise multiple times, and other connected books just refer to IT as Pennywise too, including the graffiti I referenced.

[@Cyborcat]

Fair enough.

[@bradwolf07]

I've seen the mini series (not the new movie yet). I loved it as a kid. I'm not freaked out by clowns, but Pennywise stuck with me; just seeing him on the screen makes me a bit uncomfortable. And as for Tim Curry, you can always count on him being entertaining. This miniseries still holds up for me. Thank you for doing this, it brought back good memories and it gave me a reason to watch the mini series again (and buy it on dvd). Anyway, I never read the book, but HOLY CRAP! That scene you mention was in there? Not something I expected. Thank GAWD it wasn't filmed, or even implied.

[@CountCallous]

bradwolf07 Thankfully, I doubt that scene would ever be allowed to be filmed or implied.

[@shmee123ful]

what amuses me to no end is as a kid I used to watch this show called the wildthornberrys and tim Curry voiced the father whom was as different as can be from his normal roles. I also recall a really bad generic spy or army movie that I cant recall the name of were the most memorable thing about it was that Tim played the I think main villan. I vaguely recall talking to his evil comrades about a new world order were they would all own royic roices. like I said it was a bad movie.I personally loved his role as Hex'ss from fern gully. yes I know its a bad tree hugger film but he just brought so much glee to the role.he also played a Russian commander or president in red alert 3.

[@LadyLunarSatine]

He also voiced Zimbo on Aaah! Real Monsters.

[@shmee123ful]

I recently finished watching the jumanji cartoon and Jim played a slimy slays man in that. by the why that cartoon has not aged well it was kind of painful to sit through

[@NitpickCritic]

I absolutely agree with you Dina, the spider is not that bad a scene. Especially for stop motion animation, that is not an easy filming technique. That takes talent! Gumby, Wallace & Gromit, Art Clokey, Ray Harryhausen,....can't top the masters! =)

[@jacobmatthewcrawford2120]

Great four part review! This has been a lot of fun to watch. It's nice to see how much you love this mini-series... Like I said in the comments for part 1; while I do think the "It" mini-series has a lot of flaws, I still got a soft spot for it. I'm pretty sure it was the first Stephen King movie I ever saw. I still rewatch it every couple of years, and enjoy it for both the good and the bad... I had a teacher who didn't like how the big reveal of It's true form was a giant spider. He said he thought that it would have been better if It was the spider we saw throughout the film, and It only became the clown at the end. Not sure if that would've worked, but I think if worked around a little, that could've been an interesting turn of events... I really loved this "Film Den". Can't wait for the next one! P.S... And just because I'm curious; since you're a Stephen King fan, what do you think about The Dead Zone (1983) with Christopher Walken?

[@Cyborcat]

I actually haven't seen the Dead Zone movie in so long, I don't remember it too well. I noticed that it's on Hulu, tho, so I'm gonna try to watch it again soon.

[@jacobmatthewcrawford2120]

+Cyborcat ----Hope you enjoy it!

[@diablostriker4793]

It would be nice to hear your opinions on The Dead Zone movie 😃

[@thatmaninblack]

Yeah, something is wrong with that spider in the movie. I hate spiders, but that one in the movie is not scary or creepy at all. Maybe because it walks slow? Or walks too robotic because of the stop motion? I don't know, but it ruined the ending of the movie for me. (That spider would be great in a Fantasy movie though.)

[@Insidious849]

The first two _Hellraisers_ are underrated. Your _Thrill Kill_ Game Den video rekindled my obsession for that game, as well. Dr. Faustus ftw. :) Also, Audra was played by Olivia Hussey, who also played the lead role in a slasher called _Black Christmas,_ which is really good, imo. You should watch it if you haven’t.

[@Cyborcat]

Thanks, glad you like the videos. I've never actually seen Black Christmas--maybe this will be the year that I finally do something about that =P

[@MotherofImps]

Great review! I have a soft spot for this mini-series, even though I don't find it remotely scary. My favourite parts were always the ones involving the Losers' Club as kids...they really brought the book characters to life. Kinda sad to hear you couldn't get into Salem's Lot - now THAT really did scare the ever-living shit out of me as a child. I wouldn't ever sleep with my curtains open after watching that.

[@Cyborcat]

I really wanted to like Salem's Lot and I don't remember why I didn't. Maybe it started off slow and I was impatient or something. Maybe I'll give it another shot someday.

[@dopevalentine570]

Epic film den series. I cant wait for you to do one on the new adaptation ;p

[@anthonysandoval5512]

I totally agree with you on the spider. While I do like the the design just as a weird monster design it definitely should have just looked like a giant black widow. To me you'd have to be really high on drugs to think of something like that in your head (although I'm sure people will probably joke that the filmakers were on drugs when they came up with the design in the first place)

[@jadenova]

Here's one. Howard Hessman from 'WKRP' was also in 'Clue' which makes 'IT' the second movie Tim Curry has been in with someone from 'WKRP'.

[@Cyborcat]

You're right! It's been far too long since I've seen Clue all the way through, so I forgot he was in that.

[@trustobey1016]

You just made my weekend.

[@TulilaSalome]

My favourite Tim Curry after Frank'n'furter is Long John Silver in Muppet Treasure Island. He is a treasure!

[@xen0bia]

So am I the only one that actually like the spider design? It's an alien spider, I dig it. Oh and, Dena, I totally get your fear of the spiders in RE. Whenever I reached that part in the game where spiders start to show up, I just quit. I could NOT bring myself to even look at them, let alone fight them... That's how triggered my arachnaphobia was back then. Looking back I feel silly... but actual spiders still freak me right the hell out.

[@Cyborcat]

I don't dislike it, I just don't think it works for this story. Heh, I had a friend where, when he got up to the spiders the first time, he quickly hit pause and handed the controller to his brother. It was hilarious.

[@jokerz7936]

Love Tim Curry but the best or should I say funniest Tim Curry is him in the Worst Witch he knows the film is a low budget silly kids movie and just go all out with it.

[@neilprice513]

None of Stephen King's horror novels are written scary, they mainly go for creepy to immensely unsettling. This does not always translate well to a visual medium like a movie, but written down they work very well. The IT mini series actually nail the unsettling nature of the book, in my opinion at least. Especially Tim Curry's portrayal of Pennywise. I loved "The Stand" mini series, on the whole, but I hated the end. (No Spoilers) It needed something else in place of the "Deus Ex Machina" thing that was there. Some of the "Best" adaptations of a King novel or story have had either their ending changed or were adapted with the visual medium in mind and changed sections or aspects of the story completely or partly to better fit or work better (The Shining, The Shawshank Redemption, Stand By Me and The Green Mile come to mind).

[@TheDyslexicCosplayer]

o yeah i was just thinking id love to see you do a stand review !

[@lainpain03]

I remember that ep of Tales from the Crypt, I didn't know it was him but still...oh wow Oh and Mike Hanlon is Applejake cuz he more about being in a simple life and Bill is Twilight for he is a writer. I am still waiting for that Balloon .

[@Axetwin]

One change my wife pointed out was in the miniseries IT came back every 30 years, while in the book it was every 27. Funnily enough, the miniseries aired 27 years ago. I came across a funny fantheory a couple days ago. IT is really a boggart, and the story is about a group of muggle children/adults trying to fight a boggart without magic. Finally, this is non-IT related, or anything you talked about in your video. I don't know how often you and/or Lee watch wrestling (you never got to my question about that last Jan when you were doing Q&A videos), but the Hell in a Cell graphic looks a lot like the Lament Configuration. Too much like it, if you ask me. I saw that, and thought to myself "I should bring that up to Dena just for shits".

[@Cyborcat]

Yeah, I noticed the 27 vs 30 thing. I think it's because the mini-series came out three years after the book, so they made that little alteration so they could keep the times similar. Yeah, I still haven't gotten around to that last round of Q&A XD I still hope to do it eventually, maybe in a couple weeks. Anyway ... I'm a casual wrestling fan and I generally only watch it when one of my favorites is wrestling. I hadn't seen the Hell in a Cell graphic. I just looked it up and I didn't see anything particularly similar to the puzzlebox, unless I was looking at the wrong thing. Do you have a link or something?

[@Axetwin]

I honestly couldn't remember if you brought it up in an earlier video. If you did, sorry. I can't find anything at the moment. Probably too early for YT vids because the only thing I can find is fake promo's for matches that'll never happen with shitty rap dubbed over it. But it's something you can'twon't see in a single picture. It needs to be the actual transition they use from one match to the next. I'll keep an eye out and if I can find a video, I'll hit you up again.

[@Cyborcat]

Ah, okay.

[@WaywardAce420]

Very well done! It's been a long time since I've watched the miniseries, and I've never read the book, I tried back when I was a teenager and just couldn't get into it, which is probably why I never understood why everyone forgot again when they left Derry. I guess I always thought that since they finally killed It, that part of the curse would die too and they would remember each other. At least Bev and Ben got married though, I did really like them.

[@Nightman221k]

I love how this movie makes Bev and Ben end up together, I wanted them to get up together in the books. I actually liked Silver Bullet though, but I'm a huge fan of Anne of Green Gables so seeing Megan Follows as the sister was pretty cool.

[@Cyborcat]

Part of my disliking Silver Bullet might be a case of being bias because I read the book first and the movie made a lot of changes I didn't like.

[@KaoticReach1999]

Man Richie had the best line here about the machine gun xD

[@SeekerOTheWay]

You were almost a ham and cheese sandwich! Barry!! 🤣

[@CholYerlow]

okay...I really don't want to know but I can't get the confusion off my brain. They all had...."turns" with her? When? After the first battle? In the sewers? Why? How does that even make sense? How does that even work narratively?

[@heighbeut99]

If you wanna keep the pony thing, Bill would be rainbow dash(silver, thing for books) IT would be discord(shapeshifter) and I think Stan would be scootaloo??

[@AnimeFreakLucky7]

Oh! Dena, will you do something with Tales from Crypt? Loved that series growing up, still do! Watched it all the time with my mom!

[@Cyborcat]

I'd like to, just not sure how to handle it yet, other than doing vlog-style reviews of all of the episodes, but it'd have to wait until I finish Red Dwarf, since I don't wanna have TOO many of those going at the same time.

[@AnimeFreakLucky7]

Cool. I'm excited!

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I feel like the ending would have been better if the just fought the clown. It could have used all of it's victims to throw them off in the battle and it would have been a mind-fuck kind of battle. Frankly just learning the creepy supernatural clown was just a spider all along seemed so mundane.

[@MisterNinten]

Huh. I've only read like 4 of Stephen King's books and I had no idea that they all take place in the same universe. But I guess because I haven't read the dark tower that might be why. I've heard nothing but good things from that series.

[@danielallen3454]

Oh Lord, I just realized! The Stand is four parts! That's like, an eight part review!

[@Cyborcat]

Eep! Yeah, it's gonna be awhile before I do that one o.O

[@sebastianemond5313]

4:18 - 4:21 😭 You'd think that a psychotic killer clown would be a little nicer! 😭

[@AA-in4so]

What's your opinion on Stephen King's various original miniseries? I'd love to know what you thought about Storm of the Century, in particular.

[@Cyborcat]

I actually only saw Storm once when it first came out and I haven't seen it since. I should probably watch it again sometime.

[@RedHatMeg]

I see ypu're using the images of Great A'Tuin. Now I wonder if you're familiar with Discworld. Awesome review, as always.

[@Cyborcat]

Not that much, other that it's a book that exists but that I haven't read =P I mostly used that image because there are only so many cool-looking World Turtle images on the internet to pick from.

[@golgothavirus]

wonderful review one of my favorite story's Personally i disagree tho on It's "true" form I prefer it to look more like an otherworldly creature shaped in the basic form of a spider then just a giant spider. Mostly because spiders don't scare me (i think they are beautiful animals) and I just love seeing eldritch design's

[@tommydiaz-millan2438]

Tim Curry did Nigel Thornberry from The Wild Thornberrys and Professor Calamitous from Jimmy Neutron.

[@Doncornuto]

The first thing I personally saw Tim Curry in was Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 (I think).

[@POLE7645]

Here’s a little tinbit about Tim Curry. He actually has crippling fear of clowns and specified in his contract that there should be no mirror on set when he’s in makeup.

[@Cyborcat]

Never heard that before, that's funny.

[@natalie8212]

I couldn't find part 3! Looked through your playlists and even typed it as it would appear... It goes 1, 2, and 4 :/

[@Cyborcat]

Yeah, that's because Warner Bros. put a worldwide block on it a couple days ago. I am disputing it, and NORMALLY videos are viewable while being disputed, but this one isn't for some reason.

[@Cyborcat]

Okay, now it's saying it's viewable. See if you can watch it now.

[@natalie8212]

@@Cyborcat Yes! It's fixed, at least for now. I don't see how they could censor a movie review, that's bullshit. Thanks so much, this was excellent.

[@Cyborcat]

No prob, glad you liked it ^.^

[@LadyLunarSatine]

I wouldn't mind hearing your take on Maximum Overdrive.

[@javis88h]

Spiders don't really scare me, but mythical giant spiders do.

[@Shaolinvideos]

finally dena finished this i been waiting lol

[@Cyborcat]

Trust me, no one wanted it finished more than I did XD

[@MsamaB3]

Bravo, Dena! :D

[@connornoiles2447]

I have to ask if your do one for the second new one.. I know it's long but just wanna know if you liked it or not, sense you seemed to have actually liked the 2017 one in the end

[@Cyborcat]

Your timing is kinda funny--I make a reference to that in a video I've got coming out on Friday. I do plan to talk about Chapter Two eventually. I've only seen it once and didn't really like a lot of it, but I keep meaning to give it a second chance, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

[@connornoiles2447]

by the way you remind me of PushingUpRoses

[@AthenisKS81]

I saw the movie between parts 2 and 3 of this review, and I'll stick with watching the miniseries. The movie was great until they made one story change in the last bit that ruined it entirely and made me so mad. So, thank you for reviewing this and really putting the time in. There's a real difference between someone reviewing a movie they watched expressly for the purpose of reviewing it, and someone reviewing a movie because they have a genuine affinity and respect for it. I'm with you on The Shining miniseries. I always found the Kubrick version distracting due to his treatment of Duvall. She seemed so emotionally removed from the actual movie events. Someone that is honestly terrified and not acting, isn't fun to watch. Weber and De Mornay felt more like the written characters (I could do without that kid), strengthened by sticking with the book ending and character redemption. Not having it be Jack that was always attacking Wendy (and sticking with the croquet mallet), but more often the hotel/spirits, also helped. Who knew a couch and chairs could be so menacing? The effects may not have aged well, but the topiary animals were the most awesome thing to me at the time lol A disproportionate amount of hours in my life have been spent watching both that miniseries and Rose Red.

[@Cyborcat]

Hmm, which change, if you don't mind my asking? I did love the new movie, but part of me wishes it followed the book a bit more. Still, I thought it was good on its own. I'm surprised at how many people are mentioning that they liked The Shining mini-series. Well, you're about the third, but it's three more than I expected XD

[@nemesis3587]

:D . I normally don't fear spiders but RE spiders disturb me too. And that shining scene terrified me when I first watched. Anyway good review. As an adaptation I'm not fan of it, as a horror movie it's definitely enjoyable. Hope we will see more Stephen King adaptation like Christine (one of my most despised adaptation).

[@jonathanwright8025]

In the novel Christine actually has a cameo.

[@nemesis3587]

+Jonathan Wright, oh, you are right, I remember that, dead Belch and Henry's part. I loved that part. Didn't watched new adaptation yet but in second movie I hope they don't cut that part.

[@bobbybr38k3r8]

How does eddies die?

[@RTS-wg7ut]

9:28 - _[ to paraphrase "Icky Vicky" from_ Fairly OddParents: _]_ Hey, Richie, you get so bitchy When you always get worked up, my eye gets, oh, so twitchy Hey, Richie, would'ja tone it down? Your friends are sayin' "Beep, beep"-and yes, they do see the clown! _[skip to the memorable hook]_ { Bitchy Richie! (BEEP! BEEP!) } × 3 Bitchy Richie!

[@robertwood5564]

Can you review Stephen King 1994 The Stand? The stand is my favorite 6 hour-long movie.

[@Cyborcat]

Oof, that'd be an 8-part Film Den. I'd like to, in theory, but like I said here, that'd be a HELL of an undertaking.

[@ForbiddenFruit73]

Aw, what's so bad about Silver Bullet?

[@shadesofsadness]

I like the Shining mini series too!

[@shadesofsadness]

I feel like they did a much better job showing Jack's progression into insanity

[@PrimevalDemon]

Why is it so mean always makes me laugh. Its just so funny.

[@connornoiles2447]

I actually do find the part where Ben sees his dad with the balloon kinda creepy

[@ProfessorFailure23]

Well could you send me a link of an episode where you were in channel awesome

[@Cyborcat]

There aren't any links unless they're still on CA's website, which I don't go to anymore. I had a small cameo in Kickassia and I think another one in whatever the last crossover was--To Boldly Flee, I think? I think those are the only CA things I was in.

[@ProfessorFailure23]

Cyborcat so where you in the channel awesome with nostalgia critic or a different channel

[@Cyborcat]

I was part of Blistered Thumbs when that existed, if that's what you mean.

[@madizzle90]

5:36 Okay, that made me laugh.

[@EarthboundX]

So Dena, do you think you'll ever review the movie adaptation of King's book Cell? I know you usually review things you enjoy, but I've heard the movie is just so terrible, and yet no one I watch has reviewed it yet. I quite enjoyed the book, so I am interested in the movie.

[@Cyborcat]

I actually haven't seen that one. I kind of want to just because I usually find John Cusak entertaining, tho I fully expect the movie to be bad.

[@EarthboundX]

A review would be a good reason to watch it, "hint hint" hehe.