Cycling & Living End Shenanigans! | Codie, Vociferous Codex | Budget Commander Deck Tech | EDH | MTG

[@nikolaykondratyev3021]

this is some high quality jank

[@sinjinblade]

Codie: "You can't cast permanent spells." Wayfarer's Bauble: *Cries quietly in the corner*

[@checkatwogaming]

I thought it would have been book tribal

[@vaporeon344]

Make it happen, Wizards. Book tribal for the win.

[@cassiemay2397]

But he is a construct

[@Synergyseek]

Library tribal is funny. Pretty much all the scrolls, tomes, etc. are artifacts so Codie would probably be used as moral support in the Command Zone.

[@elipetrou9308]

Ah yes, book tribal

[@kaitlynchubb1839]

If you wanted to you could have Zirda, the Dawnwaker as your companion! Obviously you’d have to cast it before Codie hits the field, but it will reduce the cost of Codie’s ability. And since cycling is also an activated ability, you can reduce those costs, sometimes to the point of free!

[@ioioioio5997]

"Abilities you activate **that aren’t mana abilities** cost {2} less to activate." Codie's ability is a mana ability, so Zirda does not work with him. Also Zirda can't make anything free: "This effect can’t reduce the mana in that cost to less than one mana", so no cycling for free.

[@yungo1rst]

@@ioioioio5997 still otherwise useful to reduce the cost to one for cycling costs.

[@mrtekbunny]

@@ioioioio5997 there's still training grounds.

[@natejablonski]

@@mrtekbunny but once you add Training Grounds you can't have Zirda as a companion because Training Grounds itself doesn't have an activated ability

[@mrtekbunny]

@@natejablonski Huh? Training grounds is a replacement for zirda.

[@Necro2Mutou]

Ikoria: "Say hello to Gavi, she's the best cycling commander you'll have, look at the value she gives, and all the cute dinosaur cats! You can't possibly have a better cycling commander." Mitch: "Hold my beer."

[@chrispy6953]

Imagine a "Fahrenheit 451" deck where the Codie deck is just all huge burn spells. A book burning out other people's libraries. Super flavor.

[@TxarlesN]

Nice.

[@gatesofnocturne3700]

If it’s burning libraries it should be a mill deck

[@chrispy6953]

@@gatesofnocturne3700 milling is stealing the thoughts/spells from another mages mind or siphoning them. Plus it's blue. Blue doesn't burn anything. Now red on that matter, is indeed fire and burning things. 451 is a book about books being burnt.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

[@finalstride9756]

Oh lord living end going from a 2$ to a 10$ card now i can feel it

[@sheesh8831]

Living end has been $5+ for years lol

[@Hatneas]

I bought mine for 30 years ago. I miss faithless looting

[@MM-lv7iy]

You know, i just thought of a good name for this deck. PageTurner. You constantly cycle through your library until that perfect moment when you slam down on the game.

[@nickclemitus4598]

Guess I'm packing more graveyard hate next weekend

[@jakestavinsky3480]

Realistically youd just pack more kill/exile effects and bop Codie when it hits the field..

[@nathanex5122]

Heated Debate enters chat

[@maxkordon]

You should always pack *some* graveyard hate, don’t meta game but also don’t let yourself be caught off guard

[@randommindz6782]

I'd be stoked playing this commander because of the Ikoria cycle creatures having alternate Godzilla monster creatures having cycle. *edit* It's 2 both Godzilla...the rest are mutate....dang....still would run them though

[@furonet138]

That’s like three cards

[@randommindz6782]

@@furonet138 I could've sworn there was more......eh be stoked anyways XD *edit* Nope it's 2 both Godzilla...the rest are mutate....dang....still would run them tho!

[@furonet138]

@@randommindz6782 It’s 3. Titanoth Rex, Void Beckoner, and Yidaro, Wandering Monster

[@digitalscribbler68]

You had me at 'shenanigans.'

[@GarrettKearns]

jeskai ascendency + codie is a match made in heaven. instead of just cascading once per turn you get to cascade after each spell.

[@justinshatto5053]

How dose this work?

[@GarrettKearns]

@@justinshatto5053 1. Tap Codie 2. Cast an instant or sorcery 3. Jeskai ascendency triggers, untapping Codie. 4. Repeat by casting the cascaded spell.

[@ArchangelJaceAscended]

@@GarrettKearns You just have to get Jeskai Ascendancy in play before you play Codie. So, that's basically a near infinite combo. You tap Codie and gain 5 mana. You cast a 1 mana spell, draw cards, untap Codie. Since you have 4 mana left, you tap Codie again for a net of 1 mana to cast another 1-mana spell, which you most likely have then do it again. I guess it stops if you ever don't have a 1 mana spell to cast. Add Song of Creation for more fun.

[@GarrettKearns]

@@ArchangelJaceAscended not quite infinite because each spell in the chain has to cost at least 1 less than the previous.

[@thejedirook]

This motivated me to do a five color cycle deck with a rise of the dark realms finish

[@NoobRealms]

umm did you watch the video? Living end is the key part and it does what dark realms do but better and cheaper

[@Yesnog05]

I have a old Living End/Splinter Twin modern deck for years. Seeing this being implemented into commander just brought a huge smile to my face!

[@Hypnoaardvark]

This deck is hilariously fun! Bonus points because my name's on the card, even if it is spelled incorrectly

[@richm889]

The delayed triggered ability created by Codie’s second ability will resolve before the spell that caused it to trigger. That ability will resolve even if the spell is countered or otherwise doesn’t resolve. I thought this would be important to note regarding Faithless Looting and cards like it.

[@JAVDN]

Got codie in my box trying to find a way to use him then boom. What amazing timing you have.

[@Frostgiantbutsmall]

Every spike immediately though of leveler + thassa's oracle, I'm glad you're here to keep us in check 😉

[@kaitooker5273]

Another commander that just so happens to be a book look like it’s my lucky day (:

[@dirkdieters5773]

First upgrade I did to this deck was to replace Defiant Strike with Pull from Eternity after the deck got shut down with a Render Silent when I was trying to go off. The Codie effect trigger still pulls Living End, which is then trapped in exile forever.

[@user-qn1up8ml6t]

I’m happy to see somebody noticed the living end shenanigans I thought about how to make codie consistent since I pulled him, I kinda wanna build atog tribal with it XD

[@matheusbiancalana5248]

Thank you, Mitch!

[@estebanramirez1178]

What I’ve enjoyed doing was creating a creature deck with this commander by using a bunch of the spells that either stole from my opponents or allowed me to create my own creature tokens. It was surprisingly effective.

[@klydewithak9456]

Note that when you cast brainstorm Codies trigger will resolve first, so you either have to cast brainstorm before you cast the other spell. Or preferably as a response to the trigger. The reason you'd want to cast it as a response is, lets say that you either; don't have an extra blue for brainstorm, or have only 4 mana available to you activate Codies ability. I'm sure there's a few more reasons but in the most common cases this is true. Also Codies ability also you to use it for cycling since it doesn't say to only use it to cast instant/sorceries. I'd also suggest the other brainstorm type effects for consistency. Edit: Sorry, just got to the part where he speaks about more brainstorm effects but the points still stand. Also have a good day!

[@LucidDreams024]

I had a thought about abilities that put cards into play thus loop holing Codies restriction, but this Deck is so much better

[@rnrteg]

I'm building a Reading Rainbow deck with the Prismatic Bridge as commander, playing exactly codie and worldspine wurm as nonland permanents in the deck. My only one mana spells are djeru's resolve, emerald charm, dream grip, twiddle, chain stasis, claim the firstborn, and serene remembrance. This way, when i cast a 2 drop off of codie's ability, i always cascade into a spell that can untap codie for another activation, or into serene remembrance to shuffle the other one drops back into the library. With lots of copy spells to stack multiple codie activations, and lots of other 2 drops. The bookwurm plan just gives the bridge something to do every turn. If I can sacrifice it to a costly plunder or fling effect consistently, the bridge can keep playing it out of my deck every turn.

[@SirGrimLockSmithVIII]

8:43 I mean, giving Codie a trample counter from Titanoth Rex does protect him from Heartless Act.

[@MarkusKohl-cv5mj]

I really enjoyed this Decktech 😁 Thanks Mitch

[@JPMitchell31721]

My Codie/Living End deck features Peer Into the Abyss, which makes you draw half your deck and pay half your life. It's a great way to get whatever hand you want and dump a lot of creatures into the graveyard at the same time.

[@volfgang1393]

This could work, but you could hit living end after casting any spell with a mana cost above 1. I really wish his ability only let you get a spell with a cmc of 1 less then the spell you just cast. That would make him much better.

[@Fangoros]

That is a really creative idea! Well done

[@joshr408]

I was thinking of was (land)cycling like forestcycling and mountain cycling. I think a few of the ones that are bigger beaters would a nice include,

[@alexwellsliveca]

Was waiting for this!

[@TxarlesN]

This was one of my first ideas to brew Codie.

[@valroy4859]

Imagine having your Living End exiled from your graveyard.

[@thelasttrueblade6684]

Well looks like we're adding Pull from eternity and Riftsweeper

[@TheyCallHimPogo]

I'm building this lol I pulled living end out of TSR and Codie from Strixhaven. Seems like fate.

[@angelowilliams5239]

Wow! Might end up trying that idea out with some... expensive modifications lol.

[@WayfarersBauble]

16:37 in the usual place. My lowest TCGPlayer market price is currently $3.24 for my Commander 2014 printing.

[@Galchoo1]

Boy do we miss when you were first up

[@inquishoth]

This is absolutely perfect, I have been wanting to build a deck with Codie but I kept coming up short. I love this theme. The deck seems light on ramp though, or am i missing something.

[@nizziefreak6935]

Commander is ramp

[@shayneanigans]

No book tribal? Maybe next year.

[@OfficialAvijitDas]

Omg. I can't wait to build a deck like this!

[@zenoswrath]

I know that Alek guy, he was a regular at my store and the CMDR league.

[@ViralVenom]

My Co worker cracked Codie in ONE OF HIS FIRST EVER PACKS. The only legendary he got in the bundle, Good luck to him!

[@MrYost-xx5bj]

I really like Cordie as you can have basically a one-card combo with him if you have Entomb and a creature in hand. By entombing Razaketh then you get Living End off of Cordie's ability and then cast the 1 mana creature sac it to Razaketh to get life // Death cast it sac a land to get Dockside sac land to get Emiel to make infinite mana cast Cordie sac him to get an x spell.

[@stevenwalsh6179]

You had me at living end!

[@awhitedude527]

12:18 fun fact If you cast living end with codie's cascade you cant cast it again it will be exiled so plan head of time this is a one big bang type of move

[@awhitedude527]

Fun fun fact my buddy was wrong if you cast if from exile it goes to the graveyard. If you dont cast it like a smooth brain it stays in exile my buddy lied so my deck would not be to OP. Lmao sorry yes you can cast this baby almost infinitely

[@alexkoelsche98]

This seems like a commander perfect for the Robe of Stars.

[@yungo1rst]

looks like a fun commander. could place in some of the dragon cycling cnchantments for what you would want to improve on the etb of the bigger creatures.

[@Psil33t]

Mitch I love your content, but damn it man. I had a janky cycle deck from ikoria that I was going to rebalance with Codie at the helm for exactly this combo. I was so excited for this combo but now I know that the first time I sit down with this deck someone's going to be like "oh so it's just the commander's quarters deck" and that is just super disheartening when you're kind of banking on the element of surprise so that people don't pithing needle living end or remove your graveyard in response to activating Codie off an Opt or something. This is not the first time this has happened. As I said I love your videos but leave some good (budget) ideas out there for the rest of us to discover XD

[@Darchias]

Pithing Needle is ineffective at stopping this combo. It would stop you from Suspending Living End, but would not affect hitting it with Codie's ability. Codie's ability is a mana ability, so it also cannot be shut off with Pithing Needle.

[@alexbriscolino270]

Now this is some SPICE

[@challeg6693]

Decided on an instant/sorcery token deck with world tree all gods.

[@MrXennhorn]

Tooth and Nail is a good way to cheat some nasty threats onto your field past Bookman !

[@tuukkara]

I actually just ordered this deck😂👍🏻

[@Pokemonect6969]

Building this!

[@ИванКазанский-д3п]

I like the design of commander decks, build around a single non-commander card. Unlike other decks, where you feel like a pilot who controls a complicated machine with different options, these decks look like auto-piloted, and you feel like playing a little bit another game.

[@HeadShotSniper69]

I run Fluctautor in mine. Most all your cycle is free with it.

[@thumbwrestler12]

Oh this is awesome

[@LazerMEOW]

Well this changes my plan to make a Codie Lucky Charms deck.

[@Case2_0]

Oooooo, I already put living end in my codie deck

[@nicsweeney1156]

Could you do an upgrade video for this deck?

[@metaphics]

I’d throw in scion of darkness, since living end might put something spicy in an opponent’s graveyard you could then steal out right away

[@SeldomCommenter]

Neat!

[@sirpercivalblakeney9957]

I feel like this deck is better with using buried alive, entomb, phantasmogorian, that way you can play some better creatures.

[@Hatneas]

I used to play mono red living end in modern. It was quite silly

[@IHaveWaffles]

This would be devastating to a Hydra heavy deck.

[@BallschanovChugavich]

Whys that?

[@IHaveWaffles]

@@BallschanovChugavich s fair amount of hydras have x in their mana cost to get them high power/toughness

[@kirbyball97]

Leave it to Mitch to find a way to make me scared of reading.

[@MarcioNomura]

Mortal combat works fine too, if you cycled enough creatures

[@matthewjecelin8358]

So im confused as to why you need quicken in the deck. Ive been told several times that Codie's ability allows you to ignore timing restrictions

[@shadoweagle2432]

This deck is amazing. But also you only have 32 lands, and single ramp spell? I get all you wanna do is centrip and cycle but I feel it's a bit to optimistic not running more lands and a few ramp spells atleast

[@romeesio]

Gameplay video when? I'm sure the Quest for the Janklord crew would love to have something this spicy on with them

[@Scotty86doo]

Only thing i worry about building this is you pull it off once and then you get hated out of any future games with it, maybe have this and the secret zedru deck in the same sleeves and just swap but even then as soon as they see codie and cycling your plan is revealed.

[@chiuka0]

cool deck!

[@heavenbot]

I swear Codie is my new favorite 5 color jank engine, Golos has gotten himself a little too bad of a reputation

[@bobduncan777]

What about Tectonic Reformation?

[@metallarocomesideve9]

Fluctuator in this deck is BROKEN

[@SnipezThrice]

B-but, first up is Wayfarer's Bauble right?

[@MageSkeleton]

i love it

[@balazssumegi2283]

Doesen't Codie trigger resolves first when you cast a spell (Brainstorm and such) to put Living end on top?

[@Darchias]

Yes, you'll need to cast Brainstorm before activating Codie

[@dragshadowC]

How does Codie work with suspend cards? Do you skip the entire suspend mechanic and resolve the card or will the card be suspended?

[@johncantrelliii9161]

It skips the suspend.

[@GlitchTheGalliant]

Ok sweet but what happens when they counter living end lol do you just concede

[@ISHCAN24]

PLEASE LORD LET US GET SOME WITHERBLOOM BUDGET COMMANDER DECKS!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@corbingovers7559]

hmm I got codie from pre-release and a living end from a pack...is there something I need to know Commander's Quarters?

[@thomasdeibele1978]

So how can living end be cast with codi when both card rulings contradict each other?

[@nizziefreak6935]

Because Codie gives suspended cards a way to be casted. Like cascade but yeah.

[@1ntegrator]

What about Grave hate?

[@2ntwins]

my only problem with this deck is what if you draw living end?

[@approximatelydaniel]

You can still cast it with suspend. Not that impactful though :)

[@Darchias]

That's why he has cards like Brainstorm, Dream Cache, and Fire Prophecy to put cards from his hand back into his library

[@dakotamcintire7419]

My one issue with this kind of strategy is its pretty janky and manages to be weak to both targeted removal AND boardwipes. It's pretty much boom or bust and likely to bust. But that said, you technically CAN play your permanents until codi comes down, and if you wanted, you can run the same companion that mitch ran with kenrith.

[@fortovui1508]

Is this edh or multiplayer commander deck and... is it playable?)

[@babassoonist557]

Welp... guess it’s time to switch my ydris deck to a codie deck

[@dariocampanella7992]

Did someone forgot krosan tusker as ciclying creature

[@Darchias]

He didn't list the whole deck. Krosan Tusker is ok, but the three mana cycle for just an extra basic in hand isn't THAT good.

[@zacharytrapani3636]

Pls do gyome master chef next I would love to see a food token commander deck.

[@sebastiana2035]

Definitely think this deck needs zirda

[@God-ch8lq]

I miss the 10 tactics part

[@matthewtam7970]

imagine using the wrong faithless looting art, there's only 1 art of that card i accept

[@alexthatsme.]

The mystical archive one I guess 😉

[@nathanielbrown369]

This would be funny but with like 4 players get ready for a whipe

[@LucasDenhof]

Hahaha book go brrrrr

[@hithere3247]

Just stick a bunch of eldrazi permanants in there, even if they have blockers there's nothing they can do.

[@bastianrhone9390]

Sooooooo suspend cycling neat

[@zaffo6]

This kind of a deck is just gonna lose every time in my playgroup because they pack a lot of grave hate (mostly for me) lol

[@theoabraham9691]

Maybe I missed something, even tho the build looks awesome and fun to play, what if we draw living end? I know we still have some value in the deck but the main gameplan (what the deck is built around) is not a thing anymore. Since I'm here I love your videos, you're the source of my admiration for budget deck and commander in general!

[@joshbutterfield9339]

There were a number of cards that drew and also returned to deck (top and bottom) cards from hand. The idea is to spin into it, and if you draw it, spin it out (or get it into your graveyard where a number of spells shuffle it back into library).

[@potatoman5145]

This seems like what Ben played during this video from lrrmtg kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX3Kk6mZmsespJo