CYCLOCOPTER: The Most Technical VTOL I've Ever Built... [Trailmakers]

[@nopenope8418]

That was actually impressive ScrapMan, not that you succeeded, not the whole idea, but your train of thought and how you went ahead, solved every single problem one after the other and fine tuned a nice, WORKING and complex machine! The idea might be someone else's but this execution of it is all yours and this is something to be proud of!

[@sgsvsbshehbdher892]

nope nopê

[@serpentinious7745]

​@@sgsvsbshehbdher892 yep yep

[@v022]

Appreciate the time and effort it actually takes to research, build, tune and edit these creations for the sake of our entertainment :)

[@TheCleverJoker]

And his bank account

[@antonschmitz2255]

@@TheCleverJoker Well even better, then it's a win win

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

:)

[@EnderSpy29]

It takes ages to make a functioning. Flying creation let alone one that looks cool

[@muichiro1550]

Ikr

[@zh84]

7:45 This is what is known in engineering as "rapid unplanned disassembly".

[@marcus757fugaming7]

Or *clang if you play *space engineers*

[@Takon_pilot]

@@marcus757fugaming7 clang required a sacrifice but there was no subjects in their own universe, so they just went to another.

[@lechking941]

@@Takon_pilot oh theres ALWAYS some sacrifice for clang its alawys what is invoking him. and just about EVERYTHING surounding the invoker too. so to me clang is every game i play that can envoke its engineering prowess. as a simple SE tinker i pray my workshops never suffer him because i like having a built clean workshop also helps keep my to size :P rarly do i build outside of some storage space or other cluster.

[@dennisdekoster1187]

Thats the opposite of Delayed Annihilation

[@idioticed4379]

@@dennisdekoster1187 instant annihilation

[@jeimasuta_v598]

The more scrapman plays these types of games the more he becomes like an engineer

[@Donke267]

He can take a college test and get a degree in engineering by this point

[@cattowatto]

scrapman in 2041: I built a replica of Earth with Countries in full size in Trailmakers! sorry for bad grammar i cant engish

[@milesmcallister8542]

scrap man 2063: hey guys for the first time I will build in real life. since I am old, I only have a few years left. which is why I will build a computer to transfer my consciousness into.

[@idioticed4379]

@@milesmcallister8542 cave Johnson moment

[@duckie55]

​@@cattowattoit is not bad grammar

[@NicholasRehm]

Awesome man! Cyclos are very near and dear to my heart-glad to see them get some love

[@NicholasRehm]

P.S. would love to see what other kind of VTOL configuration you could build, and then see if I could make it fly in real life

[@marcus757fugaming7]

Hi engineers

[@paulabbott3601]

After watching your cyclocopter video last year, I built a cyclocopter in Dream Car Builder

[@scrapman]

Your video was super helpful! Glad you got to see mine too!

[@Chris-ok4zo]

This is probably the first vehicle my brain says shouldn't work, put physics says otherwise. I'm using this for a project of mine. Perhaps a futuristic toy.

[@faremir]

I'm (and I believe even devs are) surprised that it even works with in-game physics.

[@rltt379]

@@faremir the only surprising thing is that the servos are fast enough for this if you think about it. The physics engine just has a basic value for aerodynamic objects facing a certain way, which means if it's a cube it cancels out, but wings just get lift from under it, based on speed. So it's basically the same as air drag, but it's not. The logic in the creation checks out completely after all. But the upside down situation did still take me by surprise for a few seconds...

[@faremir]

@@rltt379 Oh yeah, that's completely understandable. More than that I'm surprised it's not lagging or bugging with all the opposing "forces" and I have seen bugs with less computing required. I would love to see this cyclocopter in high seas... or more like -> I would love to see it freak out.

[@frendlyleaf6187]

you wrote (I'm guessing) "but" as "put" you could edit it if you want to

[@Chris-ok4zo]

@@frendlyleaf6187 Oops, sorry. But I'm gonna keep it to remind me of my mistakes.

[@ImNotDollyParton]

Wow, incredibly complex creation. I'm surprised the game handled it so well. Super cool.

[@zichithefox4781]

That was the biggest surprise for me. Really shows how hard he developers work on this game.

[@idkbruh173]

Finally, a new fun vehicle video! Scrapmans video's are always a lot of fun, but these are just on another level! keep it up! Wow this video was super interesting. I love how you take the viewer trough all of the design process!

[@IsaiahVlogz0]

Through*

[@JOSHUXNZ]

When you understand scrapman logic, you know you're smart

[@zebrin]

It's honestly amazing that this thing worked. Both in that the physics are "realistic" enough to actually calculate that lift and all the forces involved, AND in that you were able to actually do this.

[@no3ironman11100]

Not realistic, more like precise. drag and such are much more complex than any game tries.

[@Circle9ru]

the reason why it turns left by itself is on 22:32. left and right rotors are not spin in the same phase, they have angle difference. the thing is that you control it by changing blade andge, which are also has auto control depending of the where the blade is. the angle difference betwin left and right rotors gives you non-equal amout of lift left and right side.

[@alexanderwinter5988]

oki

[@stevepittman3770]

That thing is amazing! I do have one tip though - you can counteract the torque of a helicopter engine by putting it on a spinning servo with no controls assigned. The spinning servo spins freely, so when the heli engine applies torque it counterrotates to absorb it.

[@lechking941]

hm i will keep this in mind. trying to make a completly stable powercoreless vessle :P and maybe could use that counter node on there devices

[@kosmickitten_au4550]

Scrapman, this is the single coolest vehicle you have ever made. I was so surprised and excited as you were to see it working! Can't wait to see more of what you do. 🥰🥰 (EDIT) Been a fan for 4 years or so and i really love your content!

[@Sabamonster]

One of the things I appreciate most about you is your self-awareness. You have confidence in your abilities but you are fully willing to admit when something might be outside your field of expertise or abilities. Humility is a rare thing these days and I for one appreciate your lack of ego.

[@Karl_Baeron]

As someone who had an internship at a startup that tries to develop a RL Cyclocopter for transport purposes, i was not expecting to see that concept in a Scrapman trailmaker episode again. 😅

[@pjamestx]

OVERWHELMING SUCCESS! Very well done, that's an amazing build, you've really outdone yourself on this one!!!

[@Steve-sp4rx]

Piloting something like that in real life would be infinitely more frightening than a normal helicopter. Imagine watching those things rotate lol

[@quakxy_dukx]

Boy do I have news for you. Ever heard of the CycloRotor?

[@Steve-sp4rx]

@@quakxy_dukx I do now.. Wonder how it handles an emergency like losing engine power vs a normal helicopter. Helos have no problem maintaining enough rotation during fall to land safely no matter your elevation if you completely lose engine power. Wonder if this is as capable. The video by CycloTech says it is light enough to glide...but you'd still need enough forward momentum prior to losing engine power to achieve gliding, I'd think. Looks cool though. People are so creative.

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

@@Steve-sp4rx you can also sorta see it in Scrapman video to but as long as the blades are still spinning you will get an increased glide. However you will also still get a slightly weaker glide once the wings slow down and with time and wind running over the blades they start auto spinning again like a windmill. So an auto cushioning effect could probably be designed into one but most larger investigations into this design and it's effects are relatively newer, relative to other designs that were known before the 2000s.

[@Steve-sp4rx]

@@tropicalvikingcreations Ah okay. I kinda figured auto rotation on something like the Cyclorotor would be hard to achieve, seeing that the smaller blades would need to be spinning at a higher rate than the much larger blade of a helicopter to create an equivalent amount of lift. Helos are a lot heavier, I imagine. I'm not specifically educated on the subject so I appreciate your input.

[@VaupellGaming]

Fun fact, i work with offshore wind turbines. You know those 100M+ towers with 80m+ blades, where the smaller old ones produce 3-4MW each and the larger ones produce 10-15MW each. Each blade has individual pitch control depending on where they are on the rotation and pitch angles is adjusted on many factors but one if of course wind density and wind speed. :D

[@gail_blue]

I've been waiting for this one, and you did not disappoint. Best flyer ever!

[@thedragonlord1986]

Same for me

[@blue.eyed.bandit]

I love how he takes the time and effort of making these machines and also some of them taking days to build just for our entertainment purposes. beautiful.

[@scrapanimation3813]

Missed the trailmakers content. It's been a while

[@rgblazehawk1268]

You should have a look at the Holman locomotives (train on stilts )as that might be interesting to recreate

[@elnico5623]

This is one of the coolest builds i've seen

[@short0811]

Am I watching a kAN logic video? I love working through the logic puzzles by solving one tiny issue at a time. It really is the best gameplay mechanic in these types of games. Well done Scrapman.

[@kjeldsloot]

This is a really awesome build. It takes time for those special builds. But you nailed it.

[@johnprattjr5383]

I can believe the effort he put into this, it was hurting my head just thinking about it

[@johncage5368]

Outstanding creation! Replacing the non-90 degree solution impossible in TrailMakers with angle sensors and turning them for steering is a brilliant solution. ... and thanks for "We just need to adjust ... something ... a little bit." :D That made my day.

[@ArsFortuna]

Absolutely amazing build! I'd love to see what you could do in Space Engineers ScrapMan , so many Multiplayer Monday possibilities in that game too!

[@brodriguez11000]

"From the Depths" would have been another to try this in.

[@zichithefox4781]

It's kind of crazy how much engineering has to go into such a simple concept. Not to mention your skill of knowing exactly how to translate that into Trailmakers, or at least the process of problem solving until you do get it right.

[@FPVivid]

this truly is a next level creation. again, hats off to you SM!

[@KingEvonneTReyes]

This is like a drone that is not meant to work but appreciate the effort. I'm finding new things everyday

[@foehammere4192]

One thing i admire about scrap man is the fact he has engineering knowledge unconsciously and uses it without even knowing he is doing it...this is what i now call the Mc Guyver effect and allot of people have this including myself, but the difference is he totally nails it when he does and its for this reason that i am still subscribed and will continue to do so, he is a gaming marvel that continues to impress me...i hope to be as great as he is some day, he claims to be an idiot but remember..."Failure is 9/10th's of success" .

[@207brapper4]

I love your videos before watching them I could not make anything that got off the ground I’m very new to the game I complete the campaign but watching your videos has taught me A LOT!! Thank you for all the awesome videos

[@tophmerc]

I don't understand anything he's saying, but it looks really cool.

[@sourabhbhowmik27]

This creation is a Trailmakers engineering marvel. Great work Scrapman! Still, it went way above my head how this thing works. Time to study 'Cyclocopter', I guess!

[@kiritogreen2471]

The reason it turns to the left is probably because when it's on with no direct input the back propellers aren't at the same angle and you can see it when in slow mo after the helipad landing

[@gail_blue]

For other ideas, I'd like to see a "hopping glider." So it glides in the air, but is only allowed to power itself on the ground, but it can't actually move on the ground(no wheels). Maybe it would just jump, maybe it could launch itself by twirling a hammer like Thor.

[@swarajrp4734]

I love your vid’s. I have been watching them for as long as a few months and I immediately subscribed. Appreciate the work and time you put on this!

[@brettmacaulay397]

Was holding my breath hoping for success.so glad it worked and it kind of reminds me of a hummingbird

[@WynterLegend]

DUUUUUUHUHUHUHUDE! That is some grade A trailmakers engineering! I honestly didn't think it'd be possible.

[@pizzastubelp]

Honestly, when I first saw the thumbnail I thought it was a Podracer.

[@darckhalo6193]

Do you think it would be possible to make Anakin’s podracer using the cyclocopter technique for the lift in the motors and thrusters to go forward and backwards and a hoverpad for the cockpit? Would be interesting to see.

[@uattias]

18:09 full controll... What about going to the 4th dimension?

[@koktszfung]

This goes smoother than I thought it would lol This is my favourite series

[@No_context_clips_69]

I would really REALLY like to see one of those airplanes with vertical altitude change but horizontal movement, with the blades moving 90 degrees on the wings. Good work btw!!

[@PontusThePilot]

Really Nice work dude! At 22:49 mm:ss, you can see that the two back rotors are not lined up like the two in the front. This might be whats causing the yaw rotation while stationary 🤔

[@h_xgaming4115]

U HAVE SOME INSANE EXPERIENCE AND CAPABILITIES OF TRAILMAKERS DUDE

[@Ponderforge]

I love when Scrapman does these technical builds. Like the world's simplist flyer. Not so simple! Lol

[@Darkfinch-wj5zy]

your videos are amazing! I aspire to be just like you. you have great friends and are very smart.

[@TheRealFlavuh]

Try this type of thing in Instruments of Destruction. Not the helicopter, but just this form of propulsion, from there see if you can minimize it down in any way to fit it to a helicopter.

[@dianheart2243]

Seems to be one of those vehicles that really shouldnt work, but somehow does. Incredibly well done, Scrapman!

[@EnderSpy29]

Yes!! More epic flying creations in trailmakers

[@darth_dan8886]

This is my favourite video of yours to date. Now I wanna build one too!

[@byrdkiller5731]

I love all of your videos because you put so much time and effort into everything that you do it is amazing

[@cherrystobelieve8838]

Build suggestion: Gyrocopter

[@snipersnipes4475]

12:14 When you name a Dog “Dinnerbone” in Minecraft:

[@SSecret_Hugz]

one of the most unique builds I've seen.

[@sergiogaletballesteros9452]

Thank you for this awesome video, I really wanted to see it and we can appreciate the effort

[@Luziferne]

That is… Wow, just… Wow! In my Opinion Cyclocopters are maybe the most complicated way to make a plane fly, but has quite some advantages over the Helicopter. iE. it needs less space to start/land/hover and higher possible lift. Disadvantages are that, in the case of an engine failure, it doesn't keep on flying. Unlike Helis or Autogyros, Cyclocopters don't have autogyro capabilities and as its not a plane, so no wings to glide. And straf has to be accomplish with a 5th(or6th) rotor solely for strafing. Although it can be combined with wings, were the Cyclocopter parts provide VTOL, forward thrust& part of the lift in flight and as such it makes a smaller form factor for the plane possible. There are already Demonstrators with&without wings build out there. Some the size of a Van and with (theoretical)6 passengers possible. But sadly only tethered flights have taken place up until today. At least to my little knowledge of going down a rabbit hole search on google and company websites

[@oversecus833]

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[@Luziferne]

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[@coconut_dr9194]

it would be epic if you built some of these crazy ideas and failed ideas in stormworks. its also been a while sense you even played stormworks.

[@redacted8181]

Agreed

[@SimonNemeth]

You have a couple of extra connections where there shouldn't be on the front left rotor that are causing that abnormality. One of the wings angles down instead of up. I fixed it on your workshop version. Perfectly stable now for me.

[@spicynugget375]

It's amazing what you can do just by changing the angle of the wing pieces

[@_miobrot_603]

This would be a great idea tobuild in main assembly!

[@brodriguez11000]

I suspect would makes some things easier is parts like PID which Trailmakers doesn't have. From the Depths also has AI, and Stormworks: Build and rescue has micro-controllers.

[@choebii]

As you were explaining i just thought bro what is that symbol?!

[@UchihaItachi211]

In slow motion, you can see the two front rotors rotating in sync, while the two back ones are not. Maybe that's the cause for yaw? Perhaps different speeds? Anyways amazing build and video. Thanks!

[@SimonNemeth]

It's actually the front left rotor that was causing the issues. He released it to the workshop and I had a pick around at it. It flies very well now for me.

[@redhotpeppers348]

reminds me of the reid captain video from a while ago, he also made a cyclocopter

[@balistix6723]

That issue in yaw to the left like crazy happens to me a lot and I think it's rather the complexity of movings parts or the happening of loads of glitches in a same creation

[@SimonNemeth]

Was an actual error in the logic with the front left rotor. I fixed it for me.

[@AverageHaloBozo]

hey scrap, maybe you should revisit this with the new blocks?

[@MeIsdum-le6sn]

Get this to top

[@EnnesArms]

Always cool to see these wacky flying vehicles!

[@AnasatisTiMiniatis]

That's actually pretty damn impressive. You'd make a fine engineer.

[@heath4441]

I love these types of ScrapMan videos

[@playerone740]

4:05 heyyyy heyyyy calm down there Grandpa eichmann what is bothering you? Why are you in my room?

[@Gnordlan]

Impressive!

[@captainstroon1555]

This is certainly one of the funkiest aircraft you've built so far in this series.

[@techthecyborg1723]

You should/should've made this in main assembly, you would be able to make the original mechanism.

[@Sai.-.]

Scrapman has probably gone through pain with all these trailmakers videos

[@blue-cloud-studios]

"I have no engineering experience" Bruh you've said the most technical words and have made the most complex stuff and I'm still surprised your not an engineer

[@KorAsek453]

Would love to see you take a crack at this in Scrap Mechanic and Main Assembly, just to see what kind of unique challenges the different build systems and physics engines present for this design concept.

[@brodriguez11000]

From the Depths as well.

[@wolfstagjr.5721]

just waiting for the cyclocopter evolution video.

[@32587msw]

WOW. What a great project, very interesting.

[@ThePepsiCrusader]

FUN FACT:someone made a cyclocopter using kfc buckets

[@CharlieCushing]

Man...good job. I'm pretty damn impressed.

[@jamesmark2164]

You should ask Kan and see if he would collaborate with you as he is really good with logic. Plus a collaboration build or PVP with something like this might be really cool

[@rarestarball]

I love playing trailmakers and I love building self landing rockets.

[@tbuk8350]

The Trailmakers devs really need to fix the bug where multiple moving parts on one creation causes the joints to shake uncontrollably.

[@sakariwahlsten5263]

Scrapman literally is more of an expert engineer than most engineers

[@falin9557]

This is really easy to program in real life with real electronics, tbh. You can even make it so it can stay in one place by itself without touching anything

[@rltt379]

So first of all your ideas with logic are very creative and surprisingly good. I probably wouldn't come up with that. Secondly you could try to revisit this creation by building the OG design with pistons. It should work and not just in theory

[@koktszfung]

Make sure to put this in the playlist of recreating real life machine in video games

[@Extramrdo]

The "real" cyclocopter's control thing you replaced with angle sensors, that's based on user input and thus the pitch of the craft itself. Your angle sensors basically ignore the pitch of the craft, hence still flying at like 20:54. Regardless, you've got it working and should be proud of doing something that's not allowed in the game engine.

[@icetide9411]

"Today you will see me try very hard and achieve nothing, or see me try very hard and achieve something." Okay, but this is a genuinely good quote, sounds like something you'd see a some scientist say in the 1800s

[@pirulinperez9818]

First of all I want to say that I admire so mucho to him because of his creatvity and I have a question. Can you put your creation in the workshop? Not all of the but the most recent ones pls.

[@wet_phish4078]

Hey Scrapman I have a challenge for you. Ypu know the shaking it does at 16:43 it kinda flies so i challenge you to harness the shaking and make a flying creation using the shaking only,no thrusters or power for lift you can use thrust for direction but not lift Good Luck!

[@Lothaenorixius]

@ 22:32 you can see that the right/left rear cycloprop is turning at a different speed to its mirror. Thats probably what was causing the instability

[@rovdyret_]

I’ve seen you, Kan and Cosmo do battles before, and there was one specific video, where you would all use a flying thing at a chosen altitude. You made like a box with a simple cannon on the front, so you could aim easily in first person view. I was wondering, if you would consider making a fighter jet with the ability to stay still in the air, just like your flying box thing?

[@hiddenhood483]

Another KZbinr made a cyclocopter but he had never played trialmakers before. So he made a mechanical one instead of logic. Very interesting to see how different people think with different amounts of experience

[@skorost8692]

If scrap mechanic had trailmakers physics all of ur builds would be so cool😄

[@yorifant]

that's quite insane ngl

[@lucaslessa9308]

Reid captain somehow managed to simulate the real type of control of the cyclocopter, and i need to say, the sensors acted much better in trailmakers than the actual system

[@danejones7051]

suggestion, inivate your own out of the box design for flight in trailmakers. using some really strange or interesting methods.