Cymatic Audio LP-16 : Tutorial - how to bounce tracks and midi for use with LP16

[@TaylorDanley]

Hopefully I covered everything you guys are looking for. Let me know! Also, SUBSCRIBEZ! Thanks 🤗

[@Hengalardel]

hi. how can you make for example 3 midi automated patches for several helix for example? i know how to make for one. but for 2 don´t

[@chasebeynon7997]

@@Hengalardel is it not possible to do it on the same midi channel, just label your different helix patches as different numbers?

[@Nadav_Zaidman]

id like to have some sort of explanation about lighting playback setup...

[@alexmachado3176]

It's about time someone made a good tutorial on this unit, I have both the player and recorder and have had no clue on how to use some of the options. Thank you!

[@TaylorDanley]

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[@HarriHautaniemi]

You are definitely one of the fastest guitarist on the planet!

[@inunmusika5866]

Thanks for the tutorial, friend. You've explained very well👏👏👏👏

[@jimlund4845]

Thanks Taylor this video really helped me setting up my backing tracks...Especially the MIDI...Yikes! It took some time to get it to work correctly, but finally got it....Thanks again. This was a life saver.

[@TaylorDanley]

So glad I could help! 🙌

[@silascf]

Thank you.... I thought was possible programming the midi changes on the cymatic. Great help...

[@TaylorDanley]

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[@bryanhall314]

Finally! Thank you! Soooooo freaking helpful.

[@geirbyre]

Thanks Taylor! First time messing with my new LP-16 today. Must admit it was a hard time trying to understand it. Did’nt get it right today, but I have watched your video (again), so I will try again tomorrow. My problem is that I don’t get signals/sounds in the mixer in uTools. Think it went wrong when I exported the tracks from my DAW (studio one). Please, post more videos!!!🤘🏻

[@TaylorDanley]

I'll try to get back to making a video on the LP16, especially now that I have more experience with it. It is kind of hard to use. To be honest, I never use the mixer since I have the outputs running to Amplifiers and our PA.

[@bloodbather]

How do I route the click to the front of the unit that controls the volume

[@JimmyBlimps]

This thing is awesome, thanks for making these videos it's really helping me figure out a solution for my band. My first plan was to use Reaper and a laptop for backing tracks and MIDI switching but I really really really don't wanna have to rely on a laptop in a live environment, so this looks perfect. I'm just trying to figure out the mixer element to it now,. The Behringer XR stuff so far looks promising. I could have the Cymatic run midi, click tracks, and backing tracks into that, and I believe change scene's and snippets inside the XR mixer using the midi data, and also change presets and snapshots on two Helix units using the MIDI too.

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌🤘. Yeah, we were in the same exact situation with our band. It's like a) hire more people b) laptop and back tracks or c) try this lp16 thing. I'm always amazed more bands that use backing tracks dont use it. The horror stories I've heard of bands laptops crashing on stage...

[@B3Band]

Thanks for the tutorial. Only thing I would add, is to put a couple minutes of empty space at the end of all of your tracks, to avoid situations where the track loops and starts over, or the next track starts automatically. I don't have my LP16 yet, so no idea if the device even does this, but it's good practice in order to avoid having to run and quickly stop playback because a track is playing when it's not supposed to be.

[@hypelightsband]

Can you use stereo backing track and for example have output 1 L output 2 R ?

[@BloodlineMetalfromGermany]

Thanks for your awesome work! 🤘🤘 How do you create your Click track? Anything unusual when you export it? 😁

[@DenimDemonPSC]

really helpful, thx!

[@TaylorDanley]

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[@zsdrumchannel6672]

very helpful video, thanks Taylor! \m/

[@HowToLootBrazil]

i got mine today, i love it in general but i f''ck&&ing hate the menu... maybe i'm stupid but i can't set it to "continous play" in MT mode... whats the secret?

[@echiocciolini]

Hi Taylor! I've discovered that in uTool when you are in "mixer mode" you can add MARKERS to your songs. It can be very useful in reharsals with the band when you need to jump directly to a specific part of the song.. Did you ever tried this feature? Does it work with LP16? Thanks! Emiliano

[@TaylorDanley]

No, but that sounds amazing! I’ll have to give it a try.

[@johnlovesbeer]

Hi Taylor. Amazing tutorial. I want to try and set this up to send patch changes to my Line 6 POD HD500X but I haven't bought any MIDI cables yet. Do I only need one cable, ie: LP-16 OUT to POD IN or do I need both in and out cables on both units?

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! You should only need one cable from the LP16 to the unit to have midi control it.

[@johnlovesbeer]

I can't export my MIDI track. It continually fails. I have the same settings as you but I just can't get it working

[@johnlovesbeer]

Ignore that, got it!

[@TaylorDanley]

@@johnlovesbeer glad you got it working! 🙌

[@leonardogranchi1805]

Hi Taylor, thank you for your video...just a question, instead of usb flash drive, that I don't trust for stability, can use an ssd hd? thank you

[@TaylorDanley]

I have no idea. Why wouldn't you trust a usb thumb drive though? It's basically a mini SSD. I've never had issues with mine, just make sure you get a decent one, and make a duplicate as back up. I would think an SSD would probably be overkill... unless you need hundreds of hours of backing tracks 🤷‍♂️

[@leonardogranchi1805]

Yes, it is true!! I can try buy a good one, and go on!! I need only to charge 10 songs of about 4 track each, it's not usefull to have an ssd hd!!Thank you!

[@Desanusor]

Hi is there a good remote solution ? wanna put a rack and lay it inside... need play; stop, next song, prev song inputs on a remote... midi controllers come to minde but maybe you know one thats easy to setup with it ! sorry for the spelling im french

[@avinakelekolio8512]

How do you connect up to a stage box/snake? Do you run each mono output to a DI as a stagebox is XLR in? Or do you use converter cables?

[@TaylorDanley]

Yes, you'd have to either use converter cables or a patch bay with a 1/4 to xlr output. All the outputs are 1/4"

[@aaronhobkirk]

Thanks for the awesome video - Im having issues with the Midi - I place the midi file on the track and when I export to the thumb drive and plug the thumb drive in it says playback failed has this happened to you before or am I exporting the midi wrong (I use logic) its driving me insane!

[@TaylorDanley]

No I haven’t had that issue, but I also don’t use logic. The midi is probably the trickiest part to figure out IME

[@ziyadalsamman]

Have you managed to work this out? Exporting from Logic also and its struggling to play the midi...sometimes it plays the midi then doesn't play the track at all, very infuriating and weird...

[@jadenlueras2060]

I learned today that the LP-16 doesn’t read stereo files. Make your master stereo out a mono file and bounce the stereo out and stereo 2 channels separately using the BNC button near the bottom of the channel strip.

[@ibrajimenez2098]

Is this unit capable of changing patches say on 3 different units? 2 Axe fx and darkglass? Would you have to make 3 separate midi channels? Thanks man!

[@TaylorDanley]

I believe so, although I've never done it. I would think that you'd have to a. Use different midi channels for each, and set up each unit to receive from said channel, and b. Have a "through" output in each unit (aside from the last in the chain).

[@ibrajimenez2098]

@@TaylorDanley interesting. I'll do more research. See if we can pull it off 🤘🤘😬

[@JesseOrion]

@@ibrajimenez2098 My guy, what'd you end up finding out? I literally have the exact same set up, 2 Axe FX II's and a Darkglass. Was this possible?

[@GuitarKid581]

can you adjust the volume of each output on the lp16?

[@TaylorDanley]

There is a digital mixer built in that you can access via the software. I'm not sure the fill capanilities though, because I never use it.

[@kajolp]

Can anyone tell me why my outputs are only playing out of the left speaker/ headphone only? The click track is on output 1. Only pays out the left side. So I added it to output 2 in addition. And still only playing out the left side. In the utool it plays center.

[@TaylorDanley]

The outputs are mono, maybe that's why? If you use the headphone output in the front of the unit, does it play back correctly?

[@kajolp]

@@TaylorDanley Yes I know they are mono. I assumed output 1 would play left and output 2 would play right to create stereo from the 2 mono tracks. Yes headphone jack in the front plays all outputs in stereo.

[@WizardOfTheKremlin]

Hey can this playback midi files (.mid or .midi) Thanks

[@rayanmendis3512]

Is it possible to playback normal midi files without any convertions and wave and mp3 files, or this is just when you use multitracks only?? Thank you

[@TaylorDanley]

I think you could playback just a midi file, but youd have to put it into a multitrack song with no waves files. Not 100%, but I dont know why it wouldn't work

[@rayanmendis3512]

@@TaylorDanley thank you, that's something I wanted to know about. I thought you can use it as a stand alone player.

[@VForsaken]

Awesome tutorial! BTW can you tell me, if there's a way to control playback (start/pause) via MIDI input from external controller instead of 1/4 footswitch?

[@apocryfrost]

unfortunately, no. the only way to add external control is with a 1/4 footswitch. but the unit can work with both normally closed OR normally open switches

[@xile_hc]

How do you choose what comes out of the headphones output ? i dont want everything to come out of it . please help

[@TaylorDanley]

I haven't actually done this, but there us a way to mix the headphones output in the software. You should be able to mix the levels of the 8 outputs for each individual MT song

[@xile_hc]

Ah great thanks, i have sub drops etc and stuff that no one wants in their in ears ! Some times I also run the recorded drums in my ears if I can’t get a feed off the FOH, so that means the drummer using the phones out doesn’t want drums in his ears either. I’m sure you’re catching onto what I’m getting at :)

[@TaylorDanley]

@@xile_hc yep, I have a similar situation I need to sort out lol

[@missionmedicate]

Can you run one song straight into another with the lp-16?

[@missionmedicate]

one more question - is it only for mono tracks or can you run stereo tracks as well?

[@TaylorDanley]

Yes, it has an adjustable gap between playbacks. You can do stereo outputs, but it will treat it as 2 mobo outputs. So the stereo track is loaded in, and the cymatic will split the L and R channels.

[@missionmedicate]

Taylor Danley thank you!! Looking at getting this for my band

[@saartuvi]

Ever used it as an audio interface and not with a USB drive? can you still use all of the different outputs with a DAW? Thinking about using this live but with computer, and the USB drive only as backup

[@goncalobaia1574]

How do you order the tracks though... It seems to be seting them by alphabetical order.

[@outdatedgear5036]

Hey Taylor, can this send midi notes out? Say if I send it to a synthesizer.

[@AllenAndersonTaylor]

Could you load a midi file and have it output to a keyboard/synth?

[@jesterraj]

Hey did you stop using the Ampero for live use?

[@TaylorDanley]

I did, quite a while ago. I upgraded to an Axefx iii.

[@jesterraj]

@@TaylorDanley Hey thx for the reply.....I'm usin a line 6 x3. Live....yes it's old so I decided to get the Valeton GP 200.........viewer from the Caribbean. ..

[@afoot03]

Hello Taylor. First of all, thank you so much for this detailed tutorial, some pretty good work. But I still have one doubt. What happens if I want to control more than one device via midi. Does the LP16 have the capacity to store more than one midi track? And if so how should I wire then? Do I need to use a midi interface for that? Oh man, I would be so grateful if you see this comment and take some of your valuable time to reply. Thank you for your vids and keep on rocking man!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude! I haven't done this before BUT in theory, if you wanted to control more than one device, you just have to assign them and use a multichannel midi file. For example, channel 1 - axefx, channel 2 - light rig, etc. And you would need to make sure that whatever device you connect to has a midi through port. I plan on doing this in the future.

[@afoot03]

Taylor Danley Thank you for your reply man. I’ll be sure to try that out!

[@TaylorDanley]

@@afoot03 🙌

[@rjlguitars]

@@TaylorDanley Hi Taylor I'm planning on doing the same with utrack24, check out bomebox midi over wifi and it also has ethernet switch for U remote. Looking for a midi lyrics app like forscore. This tool is awesome and I enjoyed your vid to help work out the directory structure for cymatic unit. Also trying to work out using midi to remote control axe fx2 while hooking up mc101 via rj45 cable too. Thanks for your vid and Ill look out for more.

[@kabassa]

Is it possible to have full control of the device via midi controller? example:transport functions (play, stop, next, previous - songs) Really nice video, thanks!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! I dont think so, I believe it only passes midi or sends it directly out... but I haven't tried it.

[@kabassa]

Taylor Danley Do you control your Playlist manually? having control via midi would be essential for those who play string instruments and need to control the equipment. Thanks!

[@kabassa]

just having the option to play the songs would not be enough, sometimes we need to go back to a track

[@TaylorDanley]

It has a foot switch plugin for play/stop, which you can change to play/pause. Essentially you would set up your play list and it will go through the songs as they are played, waiting for your command to start each song via footswitch (you can also set it to automatically start). The way use it, is I broke our set into 2 acts, and just mapped out the songs in each act how we want to play them live, with pauses and samples, etc. Then the drummer has the footswitch to be able to start each act when hes ready.

[@TaylorDanley]

I'm pretty sure youd have to physically use the buttons on the unit.. I could be wrong though, I haven't messed with it beyond the scope I actually am using it. 🤷‍♂️

[@timhansen5162]

3:09 Haters will say it's fake

[@sherifnour2073]

excuse me man , your vid is great , but Reaper or any platform is not the target here for ANY musician , we are just looking for how we add mono tracks into our Cymatic , thank you