Cymbal Roll DTXproX

Cymbal roll on PCY155 pad on left hand crash channel of DTXproX module, on Swedish Metal kit. This is an INTERNAL sound.
You can do really good cymbal rolls on ALL electronic kits with a little bit of planning.
The Problem
Effective cymbal rolls on ANY electronic kit using rubber cymbal pads is difficult for one very simple reason.
3-zone rubber cymbal pads work by having a piezo sensor under the bow (flat part) of the cymbal, and a flat plastic switch built into the bell and another at the edge of the pad to sense the bell and edge hits.
When you crash the edge of the pad, the switch closes and tells the module to play the sound assigned to the edge, and the module looks at how hard the piezo sensor has detected the pad being hit, and triggers the correct sound at the correct volume.
This is how all edge zones on rubber cymbal pads work.
This works fine for normal cymbal crashes, but when we do a roll, how fast the edge switch can sense our hits depends on how fast the rubber surrounding the switch can get back to its original shape before the next hit.
If it can not get back to its previous shape, then it wont be ready to receive the next hit, and trigger the sound correctly. The cymbal roll may miss some hits or sound lumpy. It's not the module, its the pads, and like I said earlier - it is almost ALL rubber cymbal pads.
The easiest way to get a GREAT cymbal roll.
If you look at the video, the cymbal roll sounds pretty good, and it is completely out of the box authentic, apart from ONE small change that I made.
On 3-zone pads, we have the bell, bow, and edge sounds. I don't know about you, but I rarely play box cymbal sounds on crashes. I do on the ride, all the time obviously, but not on the crashes.
So the easiest thing to do (and remember this works on ALL electronic cymbal pads with edge zones) is I copy the edge sound to the bow of the cymbal. Then, regardless of where I play the cymbal, I get a nice full crash sound.
But also, when I need to play a cymbal roll, I play on the bow of the cymbal pad, just above the edge. I also play doubles (watch the video closely), but thats because my double strokes are better than my single strokes. The piezo sensor is attached to the bow of the pad, so there is no rubber edge to jump back into shape.
But THAT is all there is to it - do your cymbal roll on the BOW of the cymbal, rather than the edge, but using the edge sound.
Change the Bow sound to the Edge sound - DTXpro and DTXproX
1. Go to the kit you want to change.
2. Press Menu, Kit Edit, Voice
3. Hit the crash edge. Note the Voice Number.
4. Hit the crash bow. Change the Voice Number to the same as the crash edge.
You have now duplicated the edge sound to the bow.
5. Save the Kit

[@ianmclean5541]

Now I’m even more excited because I ordered the DTX10 this week.

[@Takelow]

Awesome Simon!!! Thanks for the tips. I’ll try this asap! 👍🏻

[@DrumTec81]

Thank you for all the support, ideas and Input on the EAD10.

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thank you

[@jeffgermanich8105]

Did you alter the attack time to achieve this smooth roll?

[@edruminfo]

Hi Jeff. No, I just changed the area I was playing, from edge to bow. I've added an explanation about how to do this under the video info - just click on SHOW MORE above, along with instructions. It's a VERY simple change, but very effective.

[@jeffgermanich8105]

Ahh. I didn’t read the full comment for the video. Thanks Simon.

[@edruminfo]

@@jeffgermanich8105 Yes you did... at the time. I put the rest up after!

[@jeffgermanich8105]

@@edruminfo 👍🏻

[@JiTiAr35]

Simon, please tell the Yamaha DTX team to add a feature like Smoothing in Superior Drummer 3. Implement it in the next firmware. Thank you.

[@ProGames-sn6ev]

Hi Simon, I‘m using a DTXpro but for live use I Need More Outputs! I‘ m waiting for the DTXprox in Germany! In June I Must get back to Roland TD 30/50 because of live mixing issues. Is there any hope to get a dtxprox in Germany the next months?

[@edruminfo]

Hi I don't know I'm afraid. You would have to ask Yamaha at Rellingen in Hamburg. I would hope so but only they will know for definite.