A deeper look at John Marston | Red Dead Redemption Compilation Cynic

[@thecowboy9698]

I wish there had been more missions with Arthur and John, same with Arthur and Sadie. I loved the banter between them, and I liked how well they worked together. And you hit the nail on the head with John getting upset with Arthur for taking Jack fishing. It served as a reminder of how John had failed as a father, and I would say a bit of jealousy from John that Abigail turned to Arthur instead of him.

[@anantajoarder1962]

huh? when john failed as a father? he become a better father than he thought and also abigail pick john over arthur at frist in the camp

[@mortoph3825]

@@anantajoarder1962he’s talking about at the time when he was in the gang

[@fenixchief7]

​@@anantajoarder1962 No, Arthur chose Mary over Abigail. Pretty much says so

[@_sim0nn637]

i don't know how you can pump out so many vids of this length regularly, like you just uploaded yesterday and now this one aswell. One of the most hardworking youtubers so far this year, your gonna pop off soon. Keep up the fking grind.

[@CynicGTA]

Thank you. We’ll see what happens. In the meantime im just happy people actually enjoy what i out out

[@VinylcoteYT]

Tbh he does just compile a series of his shorter videos to make em

[@iamwhoiam7887]

Out out? ​@@CynicGTA

[@Ghastly12TTV]

​@@iamwhoiam7887 Put out I assume

[@Tyson_1911]

John marsron is one of my favorite characters in all gaming history

[@AnimeFan22858]

Fr he is one of my favorite characters too

[@rip.van.winkle_]

John marsron

[@Tyson_1911]

@@rip.van.winkle_ goddamn it

[@eduardoFIFA]

Yup, I love this guy's story and hated how he died it really stuck with me.

[@insertname7302]

@@Tyson_1911 i respect that you didnt fix it

[@Tomb__44]

unrelated, but yk when you go back to old camps as john and hear flashback dialogue? would have been cool if you could go to specific parts in blackwater and hear some flashback dialogue to what was happening

[@AnimeFan22858]

Love the compilation's i sometimes put them on for background noise when i play games mostly red dead

[@CynicGTA]

Im actually really happy to hear that. Background noise or not. Thank you. Hopefully its not distracting

[@Aurora_Lightbringer]

​@@CynicGTA Not even a little distracting, it's visually stimulating but if you were to just listen to the audio it's still engaging.

[@mangosaurusrex3416]

If Sadie had an honor bar it would be deep in the negative

[@MeepmcarthurtheSECOND]

It would be very low She turned into a blood thirsty monster by the end of the game

[@gracelynnblack]

@@MeepmcarthurtheSECONDyeah in reality but if we’re just talking the honor bar exactly the way it works in game, she kills rival gang members and brings in bounties…..2 things you never lose honor for in the game.

[@DeviIInADress]

Comps or not I absolutely love the longer uploads 😊 I literally have a playlist with your videos that I play when I go to sleep haha, thanks for the content!

[@CynicGTA]

Thats so awesome! Thanks for watching

[@Joyoboyogomu]

I actually disliked the change into John Marston when I was playing rdr2 like most people, but playing through the epilogue and RDR1, I think John is more interesting to me personally.

[@yourgrandmasfavorite1199]

Saddest things imo are Arthur finding out he had tuberculosis, John knowing he was always going to die, and Charles burying nearly everyone

[@Simple_Man_Golf]

Listen, John got overshadowed by how amazing Arthur is as a character, but lets not forget John Marston is just as amazing in his own ways!

[@aramis641]

You eat babies!

[@emersonduran9774]

i love ur vids. so amazing, and so detailed. i want to see you cover mary and arthur’s story. i sleep to ur vids sometimes i just love these. today i started geeking out on MY MOM about how she should play rdr2

[@jakewestberry9989]

I love these videos! Keep up the great work man.

[@CynicGTA]

Happily

[@spulcipher7131]

20:07 sadie actually doesn't shoot cleet in the head. If you look closely, the blood is coming out of his leg, it's an animation error i presume

[@bgoldbricks]

I always thought she shot him in the leg so he would then fall over, this causing him to hang himself.

[@spulcipher7131]

@@bgoldbricks yeah, that's my point

[@bgoldbricks]

@@spulcipher7131 oh ok

[@gracelynnblack]

I’ve only ever played neutral or high honor, that conversation with Sadie about getting out and getting John and his family out makes no sense low honor. I have praised the writing in this game since day one but, the low honor dialogue is really hit or miss for me

[@ghostlycondom8295]

Low honor still has honor for his gang

[@VeamStream]

I played rdr over 50 hours and i was a little bummed when in rdr2 we had to play with Arthur, but the more and more i played, i actually love Arthur more. Rockstar did such a good job, it will be hard to recreate that with a rdr3. But I can't wait to play it!

[@johnsonartchive8826]

I'd love to see a video about the clashing interpolitics of the Van Der Linde gang, and why the gang probably wouldn't have lasted, even if Dutch's plans worked out. Race relations, clashing waves of feminism and the place a woman has in society, old and new world politics, freedom.

[@petermj1098]

Before the Blackwater Massacre the gang was just a typical gunslinger gang. After the Blackwater Massacre the gang became terrorists. Milton and Ross went after Dutch because what he did in the Blackwater Massacre was an act of terrorism.

[@SIEGTHEGOATFRFR]

​@@petermj1098they went after him because of Cornwall.

[@tylerwisner8682]

Probably too hasty in my statement with John NOT turning against Hosea, since Hosea was advocating for John in camp interactions to cut himself [John], Abigail and Jack loose from the gang, smarten up and to act like a father to Jack instead of hemming and hawing, acting cold and stand offish to what is ultimately his son and baby mama and go off to live a reformed life instead of continuing to tether himself to the gang.

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

47:19 If it's okay for people to take your stuff and you just let them take it then give me your stuff

[@NoNombre.45]

Imagine how cool it would’ve been if the only single player DLC they made was just the full remake of Red Dead Redemption.

[@lai9986]

See, I always look at RDR1 as the book that J Marston wrote in GTAV. It has the basic info, not as much detail and past context and only really is skin deep in terms of exposition (compared to RDR2 and in respect to what we learnt in RDR2) and could be what Jack Marston gathered and wrote about what John did. If RDR1 got a full remaster, this could explain any added details that get added to reference RDR2 characters and events, as it’s actually what happened. Whereas the original RDR1 was just what Jack learnt and was told and wrote about. My head canon anyways.

[@lai9986]

(Yes I clearly know the reason it doesn’t reference RDR2 is that it didn’t exist yet, I’m just saying if remastered, it could be used to explain why, hence my headcanon)

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

John realized what he had to lose if he did stay and how much he actually cared for the boy and the woman

[@WhyYouWatchingMyGoofyChannel]

5:27 you good bro 💀

[@CynicGTA]

May have been combating a fart….or a sneeze. I don’t remember

[@Drexzzz4]

​@@CynicGTAcan you do Arthur childhood next and tell how bad he was as a wild delinquent

[@guitarman0365]

In retrospect, im glad arthur died imagine if john had to go after him too. Or arthur and john both die in bullets against the army fighting together . What a different feel it would be of arthur was a character back then.

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

8:19 Arthur 100% had the feelings and pain of his own family's death brought up and said I'm not going to let this happen to this Guy, I'm going to stop him from making the mistake that I did so he doesn't have to lose something precious and realize what he lost afterwards

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

I think they should have left a second route for John where he could help them fake their deaths and then they as a group can go and save his family from the pinkertons

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

24:30 most people have a line, a moral line that they won't cross normally Everybody draws that line in a different place. Klein was a bad guy but not as bad as Micah but that doesn't make him a good guy just because he wouldn't kill a child doesn't mean he won't slaughter untold innocence

[@vanillathunder309]

Man, cleet's voice actor did an amazing job 14:30

[@Westsideaviation23]

Clint could have been good but so could have been Marston but bad deeds catch up with us

[@benquirobiequiratman4646]

John is Like sir Lancerlot always Followed King Arthur to the End

[@anantajoarder1962]

tbh tho in rdr1 he go to his own way

[@andrewcastillo5003]

Now at 12:15 dutch turned his back on Arthur as well so someone was in dutches ear about both of them Micah turned dutch from bad to worse

[@mrboomsnook3671]

I’m curious as to what would’ve happened, If John actually died on that train robbery

[@GLX_TAC0]

Arthur and Sadie Gand 👇

[@bigprovolone4209]

Gand is crazy

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

30:45 I hate how they blame Arthur for this. The job that he did with John went perfectly. There was no issues. Cornwall showing up and deciding to have a standoff in the middle of the street is what went down. Arthur had nothing to do with that happening. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time

[@dustyjarvis464]

I go to sleep in cinematic mode

[@TaxistGeviskon]

I played in this order RDR2=>RDR1, and still John is my favorite from the protagonists duo. He’s a badass mf in the first game, a realistic young man who makes mistakes in the second. I am so glad they didn’t show him as another hard ass character with no character development. In fact even from the beginning we see lots of signs of “rdr1” John, mostly it shows up in the camp dialogues with Dutch. It’s so apparent that John and Dutch have some sort of animosity towards each other. My guess is that girl Heidi McCourt changed John’s perception about Dutch heavily. It’s just Arthur and Hosea (practically two most important members in the gang after the leader himself), they both didn’t get to see the cold blooded evil side of Dutch first hand. John did. RDR2 was primarily about Arthur, but throughout the game it’s about John even excluding Epilogue, which felt like a whole another game. And we see John growing up. RDR2 is a great story about redemption of Arthur, but I’m glad it didn’t destroy the value of the previous protagonist. It’s like, one of the few cases when the two characters are actually 50/50. No one tops another. They’re both amazing. And it’s simply the matter of taste, which one you prefer. I think Morgan is more popular because folks (the current fanbase) played RDR2 and then RDR1, or didn’t play “1” at all, thanks to the lack of PC port (which is not the case anymore). For real, I’m tired of the fans arguing who’s better. This is a rare case when it’s tie. RDR1 Marston = RDR2 Morgan.

[@coopernewton9094]

id love to see some videos over jack

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

I wish you weren't forced to get tuberculosis. You can tell Arthur doesn't want to do the money lending thing. He doesn't like it. He doesn't agree with preying on desperate people, yet you cannot skip collecting Thomas dows debt

[@Gmanja-d5101]

With how fast they went and burned braithewait mansion i highly doubt jack getting kidnapped put a rift in things

[@ghostlycondom8295]

Ur not smart how wouldn’t it lol

[@DeadnotAlive]

26:07-38:19 triggered Arthur fanboys

[@KosmiekAltertainment]

curiously enough, one of the annoying kids in Saint Denis during Arthurs time, is called Cleet as well.

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

If after blackwater they went West instead of East. Did not bother with cornwall's train. The whole story would have ended up drastically different. Why they would retreat East back into civilization instead of West into Open country beyond me. Next thing they could have done to try and correct things is leave Micah in strawberry. He fucked up bad getting arrested. Leave him to it

[@Why-are-my-opinions-illegal]

I could be an outlier here but I didn't like Dutch from the moment I saw him and if I didn't like him when he was in his nice phase, there's no hope for him He seems like the kind of person could put a physical price on your loyalty so that he could weigh the pros and cons of losing it versus making money

[@infinity_road]

ngl I thought that was Arthur in the thumbnail

[@blackmesa2526]

Another example that Rockstar did a bad job on Epilogue John

[@benquirobiequiratman4646]

John In the Middle Of All the events &. younger John Always Was close to Arthur to the end

[@iamwhoiam7887]

Was you followed?

[@benquirobiequiratman4646]

John Marson Modern day Robin Hood or Lancerlot

[@kian_kahrom88]

Rip van winkle is the best character of all time

[@johnaustin209]

Idiot..

[@sovafps6381]

John is always more intelligent and a good man than Arthur

[@Truekingr6]

Is the daughter mentioned in rdr2?

[@smallebige]

The devs should really remastered RDR 1 maybe update the dialogue too

[@benquirobiequiratman4646]

John Is Neatural Character Like a knight who defends His. honor

[@benquirobiequiratman4646]

John Love His Woman

[@soyspicepod1547]

So this guy is definitely reading off some chat gpt script right?

[@CynicGTA]

@@soyspicepod1547 what makes you say that? I dont, admittedly i used it in 1 video and its glaringly obvious. Outside of that one, never had again

[@soyspicepod1547]

@@CynicGTA you ain’t fooling me boah, it’s sprinkled around the video. You replying is making it more evident

[@CynicGTA]

@@soyspicepod1547 lol sure ya got me *puts hands up*

[@jarrrr1347]

Juan Marson

[@mcawesomeytyo3312]

28:21

[@bigprovolone4209]

cynic more like chatgptic

[@CynicGTA]

@@bigprovolone4209 this would all be 1000000 times easier if i did use chatgpt

[@bigprovolone4209]

@@CynicGTA how’d you get that number

[@santamaria0704]

John Marston >>> Arthur Morgan

[@mcawesomeytyo3312]

30:23