Cyrillic (Russian) cursive is very difficult to read

Cyrillic (Russian) cursive is very difficult to read

[@mangnusia]

Normal Russian Cursive : 💀 Russian doctor Cursive : ☢️

[@user-pf4ve7nh5r]

I sometimes have mistakes in words like this

[@serenaitka]

Russian doctor the scariest people that i ever seen

[@greenkey2311]

Это всё потому что нам лекции со скоростью света диктуют, а потом проверяют, из-за этого почерк и портится

[@lordmonth2740]

У нас курсив врачей похож на кардиограмму .

[@RushRushikk]

Да,так и есть

[@Raemey]

"don't worry, russian cursive can't hurt you" russian cursive: wwwwwwwwwwwwb

[@Soloviev_Daniel]

Таких слов мало. Большинство пишется понятно.

[@lojobambam2]

A little overboard with the amount of 'w' but yeah

[@avgredditmod]

uuuuuuuuuub

[@user-jo2yu5zh3d]

ХАХАХАХАХАХП

[@shurale123]

It's "lishysh"

[@cry2love]

Not joking, once a Russian doctor wrote me in cursive what pills I should buy, I tried to read, failed, asked him what is written, he said - the lady at the drugstore will understand, she didn't, I went back to a doctor, gave him a paper and said the lady couldn't read it, he replied - Who wrote it? Go to the author of this doodles, I can't read that. I replied - It's yours. He just stared at me for 5 seconds, and asked me my name again. Probably he forget I was just there few minutes ago and who I am 😂

[@andrew-iz3gq]

🤣

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Life in Russia be like. Gpd I laughed way too hard at this. 🤣

[@user-gm6qf1ph4n]

Впервые вижу как человек выводит печатную "л" не домиком. Да ещё и с мастерством и аккуратностью принтера!

[@tazaoumur]

При том что домик проще и ближе к греческому источнику.

[@m._.70]

Do Russians write like this?

[@Flornnn]

@@m._.70no, in print its like /\

[@sazanlip]

​@@m._.70It depends. More often, instead of a proper typewriter-esque л you'll see something like capital A without a bar in the middle.

[@nperm8250]

The Russian El when handwritten would look like Greek Capital lamda or. Λ

[@Bredokiin]

That's so true lol. And it's even more hilarious when IN PROCESS of doing that you forget how many hooks you made already and do an extra one then can't read it even for yourself

[@AntonLitvin87]

I have this problem with my signature, cause there are six hooks in a row and I have to count them very quickly all the time. 🤓

[@Antonovna.]

When I was younger I tried to teaching myself russian cuz I really like language. It's was a fail. Can't imagine how difficult is learn how to read and write Cyrillic cursive.

[@user-sr7bp5op9b]

@@Antonovna., In Russia, we have a exercise book "Propisi" (prescription). We buy this book, or they give it to us at the beginning of the class. With the help of it, we train the writing of our cursive.

[@Antonovna.]

@@user-sr7bp5op9b thank you for the answer. I just wanna keep learning russian if I have the chance. Is a beautiful language with a huge history 💜

[@domiimod1]

I really thought it was a joke, I can't believe that's the actual russian cursive

[@_-.-_-.-_-.-_-.]

Now we all finally know the meaning of the doctor's handwriting

[@cycrothelargeplanet]

Yeah, they write in Russian cursive

[@uumrln]

@@cycrothelargeplanet ХАХАХАХХАХАХА И ВПРАВДУ

[@jammingpython8986]

The doctors were all Russians comrades.

[@nirn_]

@@cycrothelargeplanet They acually just often write single line. Your mission is translate this.

[@hanbin26]

No thats my handwriting sometimes

[@xmahz]

"Шиншилла лишила шиншиллу шиншиллы, лишившись шиншиллы шиншилла шиншиллу сшила" Моя задача на текущей год устроиться в поликлинику и написать это на листочке своем пациенту, да я жестокий

[@sottovoce_24]

В поликлинике не работают логопеды, бро)

[@cursed_goose]

@@sottovoce_24,у меня работает 🤭

[@418_im_a_teapot]

Как только устраиваешься работать куда-либо в сферу здравоохранения, твой почерк автоматически становится просто слегка извилистыми линиями 😃

[@Dimka.]

чтобы он это ещё и понял

[@JSerrato289]

💀

[@2008Changa]

I'm from Russia and sometimes I don't understand my writing, especially when I write fast. If we know the context, it's not difficult to get the meaning of the written word. But this doesn't work with surnames, special terminologies and medical prescriptions.

[@whatisblink]

Наш курсив настолько сложный для чтения, что мы и сами его не всегда понимаем

[@Uladzya]

Подтверждаю. Постоянно путаюсь в записях с почерком других людей и не понимаю, какие буквы там написаны. Особенно если они пишут маленькими буквами.

[@avsadeyt]

@@Uladzya почерк врачей мало как поймёшь

[@netheritederp_mapping]

@@avsadeyt да

[@LiberHeLP]

Шиншилла...

[@LiberHeLP]

@@avsadeyt , почерк врача трудно понять, легко не понять и невозможно понять.

[@rani.bronte]

Завтра экзамен, а я смотрю как японский каллиграф пишет "лишишь" курсивом.

[@xssized]

Сдал?)

[@rani.bronte]

@@xssized Ага, сдала!)

[@xssized]

@@rani.bronte 🤗

[@mrgoogle3289]

У меня завтра тоже экзамен )))

[@rani.bronte]

@@mrgoogle3289 Отдушинное удачи! Постарайтесь сдать и судьбе назло тоже)

[@ToxicDany]

Dear English speaking people, this is not a joke! In Russian, the cursive of the word "лишишь" looks exactly like this. Another such word with a huge number of hooks is "шиншила". These are words that are not convenient for cursive writing, so many Russians use a combination of cursive and printed letters in writing so that other people can quickly understand their handwriting.

[@popdodgod]

in Russian there is a "phraseologism" this is a sentence that is often used and a "phrase" two words combined into one, for this they singled out separate paragraphs in textbooks and at the same time there is a word combination "рукожоп-ass hands" which is equal to the phraseological unit "как курица лапой-like a chicken paw"

[@Xnoob545]

Y'all, have you seen the English word "minimum" It's almost as bad

[@user-th7pb2hf6l]

Скоропись выглядит по-другому

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@Xnoob545 At least 'minimum' has distinct round peaks and pointed spikes if your handwriting is good. Cursive Cyrillic is faaaaar less distinct.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@ToxidDany That makes sense. Vowing for practicality is a universal human instinct.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Well, you picked a particularly difficult example. 🤣 But you are correct. I learned Russian many decades ago. It took me about 2 hours to learn the Cyrillic alphabet. But took me much, much longer to learn to read and write in cursive. And I still have difficulty, particularly with things such as advertisements or product labels where they often mix printed and cursive letters in one word. 😠

[@vitaliy.petrovich]

Для нас это не менее сложно 😣😖😫😭

[@andomare]

Most people write like this, my handwriting has a lot of print letters integrated into cursive

[@huge_play]

@@vitaliy.petrovich ахахаха

[@strawberrymilko3721]

...but why? In my life i don't know anybody who write with that kind of cursive....

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@strawberrymilko3721 Did you ever live or work in Russia or Ukraine? I did. Is your wife Ukrainian? Mine is. Are your children dual citizens of Ukraine/USA, mine are. Does everyone in your family speak Russian/Ukrainian/English? Mine do. Actually, I don't speak Ukrainian, but I do speak French/English/Russian. Do you own property in Ukraine and spend at least 1/3 of the year there (when there isn't a war)? I do. Comes in real handy to function in normal life and being able to do things like reading labels in the grocery store, street signs, advertisements...y'know, life.

[@FobyTox]

Technically that's an ideal standard for letters, but actually nobody writes like that. Basically every Russian has something in their handwriting that lets define same-looking cursive letters( for instance, distance between them, or just making one letter type taller, narrower)

[@mariamsulaibi6799]

Exactly!

[@denden4455]

Net

[@iatepipe]

Not really

[@FobyTox]

@@iatepipe брух, вообще-то да

[@FobyTox]

@@denden4455 why nět?

[@GGysar]

My father was a pathologist, who studied in Moscow back in the day. Just imagine a doctor, writing everything in russian cursive (somehow even when he wrote in German, which is kind of interesting) and doesn't have much contact to people. Yes, his handwriting was utterly unreadable. But mine is too, so I am not one to complain.

[@AxyeHbluspiCe]

Все врачи имеют плохой почерк, в американский сериалах тоже вроде шутят на эту тему. Однажды я спросил врача на счет этого и он сказал, что они очень много пишут и такой шрифт ускоряет написание. Пошутил, наверное.

[@briljantful]

В аптеке есть дешифраторы (аптекари/фармацевты) для рецептов на лекарства от врачей. Вероятно, их учат отдельным курсом лекций как читать почерк врача😁 шучу. Благо сейчас лекарства выписывают электронно в основном (Эстония).

[@vwomp]

somehow wrote german???

[@user-cp7yx6xw2e]

Аххахахазвзвзххв

[@VishnuDatta]

Ржунимагу

[@julie3240]

Курсив дореволюционный еще сложнее читать... Когда работала в архиве над курсачом, начиталась там 😁

[@govorit_i_pokazyvaet]

самое интересное, что ты можешь написать лишних крючков и никто этого не заметит)) иногда так быстро пишишь, что много всего лишнего. а кто читает цепляется за явные буквы "я", "у", "д", "р", а остальные подбирает интуитивно

[@Qumielhan]

Aside from distance between letters, we also have what I call "Grandpa's script", meaning that cursive ш are underlined and cursive т (who look like Latin minuscule m) overlined. I was not taught to write like that at school, but observed my grandfather's handwriting, and many older people write like that - seems it was a Soviet thing. I use underlining and overlining when I need to write something down really fast, raises readability.

[@lzspdr9917]

Same, and i think it looks beautiful

[@Dule708]

I'm Serbian and I can say that in our Cyrillic cursive alphabet, it was the other way around - in the times of Yugoslavia, they didn't use underlining and overlining for ш and т, but in the modern times they do. :D

[@jameshitt3263]

I love those kinds of things. I started crossing a little horizontal dash through "z" and "7", and adding a diagonal slash through "0" (zero) to differentiate them from "2", "1", and "o". (It caught on from my math professors)

[@graup1309]

Oh that kinda reminds me of how older Germans write. Their u and n looks really similar so they generally put a line above the u. I think it's a hold-over from Sütterlin/Kurrent aka old German cursive which is an absolute mess to read

[@ivatodorova5908]

I've seen this quite a lot in Bulgarian, maybe it really is Soviet influence!

[@imionfamilin7057]

I remember how i borrowed my classmate's notebook to rewrite lections of classes i missed, i had to spend hours trying to decipher his writings, search for examples of how he writes certain letters in comprehensible parts to understand next words. It seems impossible at start, but after some time you get used to it and you are able to translate it. It doesn't work like this with doctors though, its literally impossible to understand what they write.

[@arsenelupin7682]

I have a clear handwriting but most times I use write the same letter in 2/3 different ways, a nightmare if my writing wasnt so comprehensible lol

[@winkstack6410]

I am actually a doctor and I can explain why we write the way we do. All doctors have to join a group chat before you can be certified, and we all just make a meme out of everything. We try to deliberately fuck with people and post it in the group chat for the other doctors to laugh at. A common one is to write really messily and then watch as the people try to understand the writing. Another one is to be super late for an appointment and then wait for the person to get up and go to the bathroom and then skip straight to the next person. My personal favourite is to just really fuck with people. Sometimes I just give them bottles of placebos, even when they are really sick, then if they come back saying that it doesn't work, I will give them a box of different coloured placebos. I mean, some surgeons don't even perform surgery half the time, they just knock you out, cut you open, knock some shit around and then sew you back up. It's the funniest shit ever - and you morons pay us lol

[@Mrmoocows99]

For an actual reply doctors and the like write in Gregg Shorthand. Its a script for English which writes the sound that is used in the word rather than the word itself. Similar to cursive all the 'letters' are in one movement of the pen, but everything is done in short easy writing.

[@herrkrake8106]

Nice English skills. I'm evying you.

[@albertuspandhito4249]

my dude became cryptologist

[@codygrannemann9506]

This is why I use what I call "hybrid" writing in Russian. I don't totally print or totally use cursive. I write the letters the way they are written in cursive, but not connecting certain letters together if their appearance is too similar. it's only a handful of them. The vast majority of them are indeed connected to each other.

[@MrTahov]

As a russian person i approve that this is hard

[@goldenraven1000]

Нужно было написать предложение подлиннее. «Слышишь, шуршит шиншилла».

[@Niki-bk1ub]

Или, "шиншила лишилась шишки"

[@0x6a09]

вопросительный знак забыл

[@SUKARUKA]

Слышишь, Шура, шуршит шиншиша шо лишилась шишки.

[@0x6a09]

@Апоп Курляндский че за единица?

[@zeet0r]

@@SUKARUKA Слышишь, Шура, шуршит шиншилла Шишигина шо лишилась шишки.

[@tsdsignale7498]

Ещё в первом классе нас учат внятно-понятно писать, рисуя "хвостики" для разделения, но в итоге мы всё равно пишем так, что получаем что-то нечленораздельное и "боже, опять мод почерк врача оказался включён"

[@sheonaner]

Если бы учителя в средних и старших классах делами бы такой же акцент на почерке как в начальных классах, а не диктовали со скоростью света, то может бы все красиво писали

[@tsdsignale7498]

@@sheonaner для записи лекций существуют общепринятые сокращения, если учитель их не разрешает использовать, то как минимум он не прав.

[@alternateuniverse3303]

@@tsdsignale7498 тогда было бы неплохо чтобы была тема им посвящённая. Ну или как минимум учитель мог бы хотя бы упомянуть что они есть. Ибо я о них ни знал, и мне никто о них не говорил.

[@tsdsignale7498]

@@alternateuniverse3303 я не знаю ваших учителей, но мои начиная с 7 класса говорили "ребята, мне плевать как вы пишите, хотите успевать записывать лекции - сокращайте, но так, чтобы понятно было при проверке", очень помогло в колледже

[@losyaa]

То чему нас учат в первом классе нежизнеспособно в реальной жизни. И речь не только о последующей учёбе в колледжа и институтах, и скоростных лекциях в онных. Пусть все пишут как хотят, и приобретают индивидуальность, а не пишут как по прописям, лишь бы было понятно для чтения и понимания.

[@Cobra-yo7fx]

Nice video! Thank god this video was recommended to me in my home feed!

[@kamenya1zh]

я познала полное эстетическое удовольствие от этого.. это так аккуратно.. мой подчерк кажется мне теперь какой-то мазьнёй😅

[@reirei5123]

In russian there's ok to use "_" under "ш" and "-" above "т" do differ them in cursive writing and separate from another letters! :) Also not many people writes in this "straight" cursive, we can write letters kind of half-print/half-cursive

[@eiswo8049]

you're right! ;)

[@linaaaaaa]

no🤨

[@eiswo8049]

@@linaaaaaa почему ноу-то? большинство русскоговорящих действительно не пишут чистым курсивом, мы мешаем его с другими буквами. если к тебе это не относится - это твой субъективный выбор почерка, а не почерк всей страны.

[@reirei5123]

@@eiswo8049 Спасибо, вика!! 🌸 Согласна, к тому же некоторые буквы проще, быстрее и понятнее будет написать именно не курсивом Да и вообще в одном и том же тексте/предложении могут встречаться разные версии написания одной и той же буквы, не знаю насколько это частое явление, но за собой такое точно замечала хдд

[@piaw2859]

Yeah, when I write something in english or german, I use print and cursive lettres in a wild mix

[@vlbulldozer]

Интересный факт: Льюис Керролл, прогуливаясь по России, написал в свой словарь слово "защищающихся" и также написал транскрипцию слова на Англиский: "zaschischayuschikhsya"

[@neutron5932]

Zash' ish'ayush'ikhsya

[@ARY1539]

На английском легко. А на немецком транскрипция будет такая: Saschtschischtschajuschtschichssja

[@hibabe2967]

@@ARY1539 АВЗХАВЗХЗАВХ АФИГЕТЬ

[@SshAleksandr]

​@@ARY1539 можно, я не буду это читать?

[@alind1648]

@@ARY1539 ахтунг трахтунг ди дойчен солдатен айне фройсишь нахиль ди руссише пастер кафбатен марширинг нах берлин?

[@dust_11]

U should try “шинила лишилась шишки” next 🙃

[@PansAreSuperior]

Whenever I write in Russian (I always write in cursive like most people) I always have to count and reread the word while still writing it so that I don’t forget a letter by accident or somehow add another one. I’m also convinced most people cannot read others handwriting unless it’s perfect. I can barely read what my mom writes so most of the time I have to guess and trust me, it’s almost impossible to read if someone’s hand writing is very small or all over the place

[@user-tj3ow4vs2k]

Делай так сказать дистанцию между букв чуть больше, но заметно больше, чем между частями букв

[@user-mh4fw3yx67]

Как же успокаивает, жаль, что такое короткое видео 😁

[@rezex_777]

Бывает)

[@IdiotPoZhizne]

Ага

[@RandomGamerES]

Н̑̈о̑̈ э̑̈т̑̈о̑̈ в̑̈и̑̈д̑̈е̑̈о̑̈ к̑̈а̑̈к̑̈а̑̈ т̑̈а̑̈к̑̈ к̑̈а̑̈к̑̈ русское написание плохо выразилось но я уже понимаю европейских врачей, они пишут русским курсивом xD

[@westa8427]

ASMR

[@KujiraFEl]

успокаивает?

[@apivapivipiv_official]

In fact, we usually separate the letters "ш", "и", "л" from each other at a distance so that they do not stick together.

[@user-tq1km9mz4t]

Стоп, когда мы это делали? Нам вообще об этом трюке никогда не говорили.

[@treint6751]

​@@user-tq1km9mz4t это скорее люди сами со временем придумали

[@starlanda2226]

we never do that lol

[@user-jn3vs1fh4o]

No, we don’t

[@Kallastar.]

Stole comment

[@MyLullabye]

That is the neatest handwriting I have ever seen.

[@ancard3118]

That’s why we usually add _ under the ш and _ above the т to differentiate the letters when there are и in between them

[@Gumbier_Than]

Anyone who learns the Cyrillic alphabet has my respect. I tried it as a lesson in humility, but rightfully the frustration reduced me to a crumbled pile of tears.

[@L0upyb0y]

The alphabet itself isn't that hard tbh. We had to learn that in like two weeks in Russian class. The tough things are the Склонения слов, or word variances (I don't know whether that's the right term or not tho), used to tell one which word is an adjective, a noun, etc.

[@Svetlana_Zakirova]

😄😄😄 it isn’t that bad

[@Gumbier_Than]

@@Svetlana_Zakirova this was before I learned the Japanese alphabet and how to better study new things. I mostly tried to learn this because my Autistic child was struggling with the Roman alphabet and I was being an ass saying it wasn't hard. Guess who got an apology for struggling with the alphabet?

[@user-kd7kk3zb5w]

I don't understand why an adult can't learn it. Like. You can't be that dumb to not be able to learn 33 symbols. This isn't a language, this isn't a subject, these are symbols.😑

[@user-kd7kk3zb5w]

@@jessicastjames6202 this isn't a language, these are symbols, I repeat. Symbols. This symbols means "o", that one - "m". And that's it. You can be bad at maths, history, languages, but learning 33 symbols, come on

[@user-edinorojka]

Вот тебе и идеальная калиграфия. Я сама свой почерк не понимаю, а тут слово "лишишь" состоящее из сплошных крючков. Так не любила прописывать их в детстве.. Хочу добавить,что русские могут писать разным почерком (он у всех свой). Мой почерк , например, зависит от наклона моей руки и даже настроения. Также я мешаю в письменных текстах печатные и прописные буквы вместе. Иногда случается так,что в одном слове с двумя буквами "т" у меня они выглядят по-разному.

[@user-dp3jf3vy2s]

Вот вот,у меня например в лекциях зачастую пропадают буквы в словах

[@lupadapupa1957]

а с т разве не у всех так?

[@user-edinorojka]

@@lupadapupa1957 в моей семье у всех одна "т"

[@user-ti3bx6ir3f]

Дааа, разные "т" это истина, я пыталась недавно понять, по какой аналогии я их так естественно заменяю, но я не вывела никакой закономерности, так что мой мозг меня обхитрил.

[@ShvetsoVLive]

Вы имеете в виду - “т” и “m” :)? У меня тоже две т в письме, причём зависит от слова, когда удобнее писать так или иначе.

[@jozatheman]

During quarantine i decided to learn cyrillic since my neighbour country uses it and got intrested into it (im from croatia and im talking about serbia) its not that hard to learn it, but what will take long is to read what it says and that, but im slowly doing good now so ye

[@NIHILWR]

I already knew where this was gonna go from the title but I just wanted to see for myself

[@dariiagaycheva2853]

Actually people who have russian as a first language all have extremely different handwritings, for example mine is something in between cursive and printed letters idk how. I could even write the repeating letter differently during one word (e.g. “printed” т starts the word and then the cursive т ends it)

[@user-bo7ob1ek2x]

My mom does the same! She has up to 3 variations of one letter, although I think that makes it harder to read

[@Iwidifbdnqqo]

У меня он второй, но все же, мы жители СНГ имеем схожие проблемы.

[@user-hyuser357]

@@Iwidifbdnqqo .. это проблема?---

[@dariiagaycheva2853]

@@user-hyuser357 может быть проблема в том что в итоге почерк непонятно какой и его сложно разобрать

[@jmugwel]

Yes, I for example often swap "e" with small "E".

[@blue_space_sparrow]

I’m Russian and that’s why I decided to start writing “print” letters instead of cursive a couple years ago. But I’d also like to say that most of people understand the difficulty of reading the text written like this and they may change the way they write their cursive letters

[@dmitrykazakov2829]

Same here. The drawback is that it is slow. Though, at least you have a chance to read what you wrote earlier. 😂

[@livedandletdie]

Yeah how T looks like m is really annoying. Man I ain't even Russian, but imagine if I tried to learn Russian and it was all written in Cursive, the pain...

[@nostalgicrobot]

Same

[@user-bf9hu9pv7z]

представь как с тебя люди будут угарать

[@user-eo3lr7vz6i]

Правильный курсив читается нормально.

[@user-ug5wm9di2d]

you always can make more space between letters for better reading

[@alexanderv5526]

We are taught at school to enlarge spaces between similarly spelled letters.

[@HaythamAlsayed]

Если ты можешь прочитать слово "шиншиллы" чужим почерком, то ты равен Пушкину в мастерстве русским языком

[@dmitrykazakov2829]

Ни хрена! Пушкин бы тоже не смог! 🤣

[@igor06991]

Ну, мне кажется, это ещё будет характеризовать и чужой почерк, как читаемый. В данном случае

[@user-bo7ob1ek2x]

I can, and yet I know 5 Russian words lol (I'm Bulgarian)

[@Podushka_x9]

@@user-bo7ob1ek2x What words do you know?

[@0tter-p0pSnow]

моя мама пушкин༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽

[@henriquekatahira1653]

It’s not difficult, Takumi-san. It’s impossible!

[@jeremias-serus]

Well, when you write it improperly at least it is. In cases where such characters are indistinguishable even with context, we simply insert a line under the ш (sh) and line above the т (t). Also, even though we essentially never write in print, there are common standards for written print, which he clearly does not know. His “print” font was actually digital print. As in, he just copied лишишь (LEESH eesh) as it is written on a computer. For the once-in-a-blue-moon time when we do write print, we write л (l) as a simple equilateral triangle without a bottom, just as it is done with the majuscule (capital) L in Greek (minuscule λ, majuscule Λ) interestingly enough. And the letter и (ee) is actually written like the U in the Latin script.

[@jeremias-serus]

“Λuωuωь” is what it looks like when we print physically. This kind of thing also happens in the Latin script, which makes sense. No one physically writes the letter ‘a’ like it looks like in this computer font, with the hanging ledge-we all write it like the minuscule Greek script letter ‘a’ (α), interestingly enough. Since the calligrapher is Japanese, all of this is obviously understandable to a degree since Japanese’s scripts have nothing like what we have in European scripts. Though only a degree, as he is a calligrapher after all so you’d think he’d research more.

[@anastasiaabramova3203]

@@jeremias-serus «и» все же пишется как “u”, а не как большая буква “U”

[@felicepompa1702]

@@jeremias-serus well it depends i'd say the latin script offers so much variations, for example o write "g" in like 8 ways depending on what looks better and it's quicker, i write "a" in 3 ways in minuscule (a, the greek alpha and a small capital Q with a longer segment that points upwards) and in 4 in Capital

[@herrkrake8106]

It's easy if you practice enough. 5 hours every day for 10 years will be ok for this skill. EDIT: But what I'm talking about if you even don't have 'L' in your alphabet. Distinguishing and pronouncing L and Ł will be total nightmare for you. I'm totally agree with you. Learning polish with Cyrill cursive this not impossible. This is IMPOSSIBRU!!!

[@SuperCosty2010]

That's why we make some difference in width of letters and spaces between them

[@josegil7835]

Wow!!!! Womderful handwriting!!!!

[@nabels4865]

Когда хорошо знаешь язык смотришь на общий контекст предложения, а на детали не обращаешь внимания.

[@SefaR_atoR]

До тех пор пока это не имя собственное или определение какого-то слова в конспекте по строймату, где чуть ли не каждое слово вне контекста.

[@user-fq6fz4fc5p]

@@SefaR_atoR А сопромат, сейчас есть такой предмет?

[@thedarkonit5197]

@@user-fq6fz4fc5p да

[@denismakarov7692]

@@user-fq6fz4fc5p да, есть. В бауманке по крайней мере

[@haythamalexander]

Actually this russian word means “[you] will deprive”, not “to deprive”. To deprive would be «лишать», which is a little easier in cursive

[@klavesin]

A bit of thinking to get why specifically the future form of the verb was used. The fact is also that the author even didn't have to use a word of the same meaning in the first place.

[@haythamalexander]

@@klavesin purposely to show how confusing it looks in cursive. Which is still a valid point, but a little misleading

[@nightuser_]

There's no distinction between present and future tenses in Japanese, it's all contextual.

[@MercenaryMuse]

English often derives specific meaning via context of the sentence. To deprive' can imply a 'you'... or not. 'You will deprive' can imply intent or incidental consequence. 'Can deprive', 'should deprive'; in any case, the word 'deprive' is written the same way. My thinking is that English makes up for being easy to write by being a mental gymnastics session of inferred intention.

[@Rabid_Nationalist]

Yeah because Slavic languages have verbs that change with 1st 2nd or 3rd person scentances (and also with sg. and pl. scentances) Edit: They also change due to tense

[@ezraredixon]

what od that pen, and where can I find it

[@f4keinternetgrll820]

This guys handwriting is on another plane of existence that we can’t even begin to comprehend

[@Xxyurimxx]

A similar thing happens when you write “minimum” in english cursive

[@NazarovVv]

That’s why they thought us in school to put little “connectors” between the cursive letters so they can be told apart much easier without breaking the flow of the cursive. There are actual rules for how to connect every cursive letter in order to be legible. That’s in Bulgarian Cyrillic tho, don’t know about Russian

[@Roshenera]

Also in Russian.

[@creature._.]

Yeah, I learned to do that from my grandma!

[@cultistaautista]

It exist but it's a difficult technique that most people don't bother mastering. It also decreases writing speed

[@demmicatlive4815]

Sometimes, we make letters different heights to make easier to distinguish where letter И, and where letter Ш in cursive.

[@MaraCares]

lol "лишим" is another good one. I'm always disliked writing in English cursive because there are so many loops and unusual connections compared to Russian. Now I see why they're worth it 😂

[@jerry1823]

ok but honestly do Russians actually understand the cursive? like genuinely can they tell the difference between one word and another?? these are serious questions that I need answers to

[@lopinas]

and there's nothing complicated. Basically we understand everything, but it also depends on the handwriting. It is this entry of the word "deprive" that is easy to understand, since we know how many sticks which letter is designated. For example, the letter "л" is one stick up. The letter "и" is two sticks, and the letter "ш" is three sticks. Therefore, if a person has a completely readable handwriting, then such words are not worth much effort to read Upd. And even in schools they usually teach to separate these letters, and I didn't seem to see anyone just making a bunch of identical sticks, as shown here. So this is another explanation of how we understand it all

[@radio.silence]

Ahhh sorry to ruin the video's indended effect, but it's just this particular word that consists of letters that are composed of the same pen movement. Any other word would look pretty readable to you. Plus, this is not even the infinitive - translates to "(you will) deprive". If I saw this word in a handwritten text, I'd either pause to decipher, or recognize it right away bc it's kind of an old meme here. Like hehe look at our cursive 😏😏 must be hard for foreigners to read 🙈🙈

[@mihind9992]

@@radio.silence "дышишь", " слышишь" "ушили", "ушли", "лилии", ну и конечно " "шиншилла".

[@Lim0n41k]

yes we can because in reality nobody writes like shown in the video. It's so exaggerated that it's not even "propper way to write". The dude just made a bunche of loops instead of actually writting the word. When you actually write лишишь in cirsive letter "и" and letter "ш" would be different widths. I other words, yes, "лишишь" one of the most confusing ones in cursive but not *that* confusing as videos like this are like to show

[@trayanshterionov4113]

Да, можем

[@QuackAttack]

You're giving me flashbacks to my first year of Russian langauge class in college... Exams were not fun :(

[@katsuneyume]

Awe, traumas am i right? :(

[@Serpalbus]

И как вам русский язык?

[@QuackAttack]

​@@Serpalbus Русский язык - трудный но я хочу продолжать его учить 😅

[@alarabija8494]

@@QuackAttack you speak better russian than me being a slav after 7 years of education of russian

[@raidzhu20]

@@alarabija8494 ой не льстите ему xD

[@kathleen007]

That was beautiful to watch.

[@kurikuri6683]

The German Kurrentschrift could be sometimes like that. We don't have it anymore but in my university I had a class about it and it was so hard to read cursive Kurrentschrift....

[@liannapfister8255]

My music history teacher was Russian. One day he wrote a word in Cyrillic cursive on the board and we all went “what fresh hell is this” and he told us to wait; then he wrote the same thing but I think he overemphasized the distance between the letters, so it was still fresh hell but it didn’t look like a dozen w’s in a row anymore.

[@ishkel]

While an example with Russian cursive is valid, this is a doctor's handwriting style. Normal people thinks in letters and write differently: letter "и" is more like "u" and "ш" (prononsed as "sh") is formed as two glued "uu". It is also helpful to link two letters on the top.

[@user-wb2tm3hv8w]

Honestly I write it exactly like in the video. Might be not a normal person tho

[@Soloviev_Daniel]

Нет. Не разу не видел человека который так пишет.

[@pelinalwhitestrake3367]

@@Soloviev_Daniel Значит ты никогда не был в больнице/поликлинике.

[@baifububa]

@@Soloviev_Daniel учусь в меде. Пишу именно так)

[@annasolovyeva1013]

Russian doctor handwriting is even worse.

[@afterought6275]

As someone from Serbia, I don’t see any problem with both of them 😂 (we use both cyrilic and latin script, you can mix them in one sentance and we wouldn’t even notice)

[@bober6270]

Идеально👌

[@deytd1507]

that is an artificially constructed example of a particulary hard to read word, but the real problem is that unlike English with well established letters which everyone writes in more or less same way, Russian cursive has a vast variety of accepted ways to write each letter. When you combine that with general sloppiness of average handwriting it often times results in a gibberish that even native speakers can barely read.

[@yoomiekoko3520]

true. sometimes it's hard for me to read even my own handwriting

[@shinxu_lol]

there's nothing to *sea* * ba-dum-tss * русский курсив реально похож на волны моря.

[@user-kt9zy5ul9o]

А буквы "с" похожи на волны.

[@NotAU]

I agree, it does look like the waves of the sea

[@keroykk]

Больше похож на траву

[@NotAU]

@@keroykk It also does look like grass, tall grass

[@teat3792]

@@NotAU usually there are stops between the letters

[@PseudoNo]

Hallo! You can use underlining with И and Ш. It makes life a lot easier. For the reader. PS Yes, doctor's cursive is another level and can be read only in 4th dimension.

[@marusilda1]

На самом деле это забавно. Раньше буквы подчёркивались , чтобы было понятно, что написано курсивом. Буква «ш» подчёркивалась снизу , а буква «т»- сверху.

[@dbsktvxq1799]

Ради интереса написала "лишишь" (написала как обычно, не стараясь изменить манеру письма) и у меня получилось настолько же нечитаемо, как у автора видео 😆

[@riniiov]

Я писала быстро и добавила по одному лишнему штриху после каждой 'ш'. Но зато подчеркнула эти буквы снизу XD

[@hitomikazuru7958]

Шиншилла лишилась шишки 😂

[@user-rn3po7gl3d]

Или вот еще вариант - Лишили лилии 😉

[@georgiykireev9678]

Даже когда печатными буквами написано, глаза протереть хочется

[@skullbonegames]

You should do some distance berween letters

[@duyphung311]

I mean the English word minimum also has similar issues when writing it in cursive, going back over it to figure out where to dot your I’s

[@redacted7931]

I hate it when people say Russian cursive is so hard to read, and then only use lishish' as an example. Yes, that word is hard to read (especially when written incorrectly, since the letter for 'sh' should start at the top, and in an way no one would ever write), but there are more words that are easier to read. A whole language of easier words, even.

[@St.Sogofhedgehogs]

лишишь

[@rumya2841]

Тот чувак неправильно писал русским курсивом. У нас Л, И, Ш и М отделяются расстоянием и специальными, так сказать, надгибами

[@lxktn1989]

Or at least use the English word "minimum" as the comparison, which is the equivalent for English cursive.

[@fenbyrat]

EXACTLY I'm not even Russian but I know a bit and can write in cyrillic and I HATE when people just make a bunch of u shapes/swoops and say "look its cursive!!! so hard to read!!!!" when in reality people make slight spaces or changes to make it readable :/

[@meatmeatmeatmeatmeatmeatmeatme]

форточку откройте, душновато что-то стало

[@user-zf9oy3dn9n]

As a Russian native I imagine how he counts the waves👏🏻🤓

[@zarahmansyah8781]

What an art, marvelous

[@dmitrypuchkov2699]

Не могу не отдать дань уважения автору видео. Особенно с учетом того, что он пишет красивее меня.

[@user-xk4wj6ge5b]

I love your pen and the writing you do. Very good. 10/10.😜

[@think127]

pen/10

[@pinkwater-alsu]

Классное видео, поднимает настроение, спасибо) И удачи в изучении русского🙏💓

[@LisztGOAT]

Now, imagine a russian doctor 💀

[@StalinKilled100MillionForJoke]

3.800 people in russia dies every year because how doctors write

[@huswsimonbla]

That reminds me of the german Sütterlin a bit.. so many waves.

[@MsSergey1313]

можно написать понятнее если делать промежутки между буквами длиннее. Никто не запрещает это делать прописью.

[@ShyShya]

In any case, the first time it is easier to read Russian words (maybe just with the wrong accent) than some English words like "queue" or "thought"

[@user-lu1ie2ni5e]

yeah. in russian ve pronounce the same as write. in english just like you said

[@klavesin]

A matter of practice

[@morlulas1395]

@@user-lu1ie2ni5e не всегда

[@user-cd4ex3xm8w]

Teachers always teached us to write like that, but in middle and high school teachers didn't care about our style of writing:we could've write like in the video, or with space between letters, for us not to be lost in what letters did we wrote lol (hope you understand this) Учителя всегда учиди нас писать вот таким курсивом, как на вилео, но в средней и старшей школе им стало вдруг похер, каким почерком ты пишешь, главное, чтобы можно было это понять).

[@FlowerW5]

Шиншилла ещё попробуй написать))) Chinchilla still try to write)))

[@xtz9510]

когда то я конспекты писал, и по ним успешно учился, но теперь, спустя 10 лет я смело могу сказать что это какая то не читаемая фигня

[@ameliab324]

Я учу русский, и несмотря на то, что мне легко даётся писание курсивом, мне иногда сложно прочитать то, что я сама написала 😂

[@zhanbossi5511]

А ваш родной язык какой?)

[@ameliab324]

@@zhanbossi5511 Польский)

[@irinam407]

Это нормально. Вершина мастерства при написании - я прекрасно понимаю свой почерк, а остальные не понимают. Идеально для института)

[@koqybu]

Носители иногда тоже сталкиваются с таким

[@user-df5ff4su5j]

@@ameliab324 мне кажется, поляку легко выучить русский, и наоборот. Отдельные польские фразы я понимаю без перевода, хотя не знаю языка. Языки похожи все-таки.

[@stayd4018]

Надо делать перерывы так сказать, конечно с буквами ш сложно прочитать курсив, но если написать с паузами, а не одним движением, то можно сделать более понятный вид. Отступы так сказать, связку подлиннее

[@ihatebreadcrumbsyes]

foreign guys, the funny thing is that sometimes we don't understand our cursive handwriting either. basically i'm like doing Russian homework for the uni and then i can't even read that🤕

[@zvaramartin]

In Serbian Cyrillic cursive when writing "ш" we put a line under it, and for "т" we put it above it so we are able to distinguish them. "и" is written with no line and "л" is usually written a bit differently so it's easier to recognize

[@bennymountain1]

That's how my parents were taught, but the standards have changed. Makes reading handwriting of people from other generations a bit more confusing.

[@HaeikeVraeik]

People do that with the Russian cursive as well.

[@a.n.6374]

We were taught like that in bulgarian too, but I haven't seen anyone actually do it in real life after primary school. Most people adapt to some sort of semi-print font.

[@ivanajovanovic2337]

Schools no longer teach to write ш with a line under, it's only permitted if you can't tell what the word is.

[@anonymoususer2489]

In my country old people usually write like this.

[@DM014]

А я уже писал, что в таких случаях повтора завитков можно вводить подчеркивания букв. Ш подчеркивается снизу, буква Т сверху.

[@northwesternroots2054]

Далеко не все так делают

[@DM014]

@@northwesternroots2054 мне интересно какая часть слова "можно" не понятно. Ясень ясень, что не все.

[@atriyakoller136]

Так вот они для чего. А то они немного раздражают меня на письме, но да, практично. У меня обычно расстояние между крючками внутри буквы меньше, чем между буквами, тоже вполне неплохо решает проблему)

[@steveget1186]

Я про такое впервые слышу но ладно .

[@steveget1186]

У меня обычно стоит перегородка когда кончается такая буква. Ну например , написал Л и И. Ставлю после Л перегородку . Всё.

[@KasperskyDrive]

Sometimes we add a line under 'sh' when it's mixed in with l's and i's

[@user-gd5oy8qy8g]

It is just an example of how one, low-frequency word is written in ideal cursive, with no context sentence given that would pretty much solve the comprehension problem. (It's like writing "lead will lead to" or "whether the weather" or "take one will take".)

[@fbi3165]

Holy shit so all the doctors have been russian all along?!?!?!

[@omp199]

Damn. My father kept that a secret. So I am... half-Russian!

[@tonyslabu6373]

Yes they've been sleeper agents all this time so you better prepare

[@mrmimeisfunny]

This would be a funny comment on its own, but it's hilarious because the FBI wrote it.

[@pol2997]

You didn't see Russian doctor's handwriting yet

[@user-hyuser357]

@@omp199 придется теперь перед украиной извиняться на полшишечки

[@bettercalldelta]

Russian-speaking person here, we usually separate the letters with some distance so they don't all "stick" together

[@user-wu5ph7dj7x]

а я думал украинцы себя с Россией больше не связывают

[@sjvduwbdubf]

@@user-wu5ph7dj7x a ukrainian person can still speak russian without being russian? i speak latin, am i roman now? dont think so

[@VX1DXD]

@@sjvduwbdubf Здесь ситуация другая

[@sjvduwbdubf]

@@VX1DXD now i am german, i speak english, am i british now? still dont think so

[@prokrastinatia]

@@user-wu5ph7dj7x красава, приплел политику, когда просто чувак с укр флагом комментарий написал

[@cheesebusiness]

This is an extreme example which you’ll probably never meet in practice

[@coooolibri]

i German we also have the cursive writing where we sometimes make the small U, N and M within a word look like the same character. you had to know the word to see which one it is. this seems very similar.

[@AlexBesogonov]

One trick in this case is to use underscore the letter "ш" and add a bar on top of "т" (looks like inverted "ш"). This immediately reduces ambiguity.

[@WerewolfLord]

That's how my Russian teacher taught. But it still doesn't help much with и vs. лл.

[@SUKARUKA]

@@WerewolfLord I think there should not be an important confuse, those connections are rare. If you write «Галлюцинации, аллергии, хлорофилл, эллипс, иллюминация и баллистика», u understand the letters.

[@metaphysicalretardation]

@@WerewolfLord In Serbian we write the top part rounded on one side so that way it doesn't blend with the letters next to it

[@xiaofan3377]

in my handwriting, i write т as т and not its cursive version. i think it looks better and more understandable. teachers aren't very strict to my handwriting until it's understandable for me, and when we graduate nobody really gives a damn as well. when i want to understand what'd somebody write i usually just count the times they repeated the skews, haha.

[@AlexBesogonov]

@@xiaofan3377 The "standard" handwriting is optimized for speed, so you can write most words without lifting a pen from paper. Back at university I could take notes about as fast as a slow speech. But if you don't care about speed, then using printed-style letters is perfectly fine.

[@00_the_end_is_near_00]

Note to self: stay *FAR* away from russian speaking doctors 😂😂

[@Mateo482]

Y'all, be amazed, this is the creator of fonts.

[@user-hr1xl3dn5u]

Полезно (:

[@skyt465]

as a kid, I kept writing "minimum" in cursive randomly when I'm bored since it just looks like a bunch of squiggly lines (doing it is also quite satisfying)

[@Valmidenio]

I LOOOOOOVE russian language, but I was born with only one brain and it looks like I would need two in order to learn how to speak russian.

[@soekarnosenjusensei6691]

Cool Badass Great Language

[@user-xn4rc5wn2y]

Удачи тебе! У меня то же самое, но с французским.

[@Valmidenio]

@@user-xn4rc5wn2y You must be kidding... : ) The Brazilian writer Paulo Coelho learned French in 3 months... Oh my goodness!!!

[@epoxaV]

Ахахахахах топ) ❤️❤️❤️

[@zinnsoldat6493]

For you learning any Slavic language will be hard as learning russian,but for me it is harder to learn Germanic,Romance languages.

[@ااثنصؤ]

Russian teachers: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.

[@小苹果_88]

so that the other person can understand what capital letter is written т or ш, for this we leave a dash or under the letter if it is the letter ш or above the letter if it is the letter т