William Dalrymple: How Ancient India Shaped the World - Trade, Buddhism & Mathematical Legacy

[@cinefile0075]

This will go down in hiatory of episodes where cyrus talked less and allowed the guest to talk. I think he was mesmarized by ancient history. Great episode. One of the best !!!!..

[@shreyanshsingh4901]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nishantd7827]

Hello loves history and has good knowledge about it. Cricket and history are cyrus interests.

[@hai2vasu]

One of the best episodes so far. The correlation/link between Aryabhatta - Brahmagupta - Algebra - Fibonacci - etc., makes you wonder on how much gets lost over this short period of time

[@akchemaceshwa]

I'm Indian living in Poland since 10 years and I was out of loop intentionally, especially politics and all. It's surreal to see both these men sitting there in a context that I never thought, talking about things that completely eye opening to say least. I'm Buddhist myself by birth, so it hits me differently.

[@20shourya]

no one is of any religion by birth.

[@wayne7594Vruce]

How is Poland ? For Indians

[@akchemaceshwa]

@@wayne7594Vruce I cannot tell on such broader terms. I had girl from here when I started living. I know the language and all my friend circle and women subsequently are from around. It's more like I'm aligned to all Polish things progressively, so I guess it's all good, in my case at least. Poland historically was defending itself from outsiders in all history, so people are very close with strong sentiments, dignity and honesty.

[@akchemaceshwa]

@@20shourya I would argue that Buddhism is not a religion. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

[@akchemaceshwa]

@@wayne7594Vruce In broader terms I cannot tell. I had a girl from here when I started living here. I know language and progressively all my colleagues, friends and women happens to be from here. Poland was defending itself from outsiders all history, so people are very close. It depends on what mutual perception is.

[@RealKingOfCricket]

Proud subscriber of Cyrus for 3 decades.

[@urasay2]

Just noticed that the audiobook is narrated by William Dalrymple himself. Giving it a shot and I have a feeling I'll love it

[@mindplanet24]

thank you Cyrus Says team....thank you!!!

[@TheTwara]

This is Cyrus channel and we come to listen to Cyrus the guests are merely the tool!

[@shamnahusman6175]

William Dalrymple- loved you since I was a kid. Had to move to Delhi for a while and the first thing I picked up was the City of Djinns. Had read many of your works by then but I wanted to see Delhi through another lens. It shaped my stay and my love for the city despite its modern transgressions. Thank you for these masterpieces

[@jyotikamble4516]

Loved the interview Cyrus!

[@Codetutor-DemystifyCoding]

I have been reading this book for quite some time now. It's brilliant. If you consider yourself history need, then you should not miss this book. It's very information dense, but worth every effort to read it.

[@AK-iw3zw]

I am reading "Xanadu" by William Dalrymple as I watch this episode. I enjoy his deep & well researched insight on world history.

[@proxie-pc]

Have been binging all the episodes. Cyrus, I'm addicted to the dry sense of humor

[@MayukhBagchi-fr8lg]

CYRUS and WILLIAM and INDIAN MATHEMATICS -- can't hope for better!

[@gokul1255]

Temples in ancient india used to be banks as well. Like for example historical records exist of loans given out to even kings in temples like Padmanabhaswamy temple in Kerala.

[@sukhavaho]

Didn't see your comment before I posted - this is accurate. 🙏

[@SHUBHASMITGUPTA17]

Met William Dalrymple yesterday, such a rockstar historian he is.

[@vineflower]

Knew nothing about William, and now im a huge fan!

[@jay-oc3zu]

As The Empire podcast Fan, please ask William to bring Anita Anand next time. Their chemistry is like Cyrus and Kunal.

[@magnart]

I really love Cyrus. He excels in being average and relatable..i am saying this as a complement. There is a sense of peace to have someone like him😊

[@rahuldivay]

What an incredibly captivating conversation. William Dalrymple is truly a master storyteller, been following his writings since the days of 'In Xanadu.' You can see the humorous storytelling when he narrates the story of his Air India experience with a funny take.

[@AnirbanBanerji]

"Woo dun it" was genius level

[@digicat123]

Nuggets of History beautifully told ,need more of this,great episode, buying the book now

[@sadhnamisra7171]

Gave me goosebumps after hearing about numbers Algebra and Algorithms

[@maheshmenon1363]

Great author, big fan of his book The Anarchy. Great collab with Anita Anand on The Kohinoor. Amazing books written by William. Nine Lives, The Last Mughal

[@samk6051]

"City of djinns" and "in xanadu" are good too

[@cinefile0075]

Definately buying this book.

[@soumikbiswasORbabai]

Shivaji Dalrymple was so cool.. and shouting out for Chandannagar

[@tujams]

Sir, it is amazing to read your books and talks about the British Imperial Empire -the perspectives presented by Shashi Tharoor, Naill Fergusson, and yourself, our knowledge and history seems enriched from all sides. Anarchy was such a revelation to how India and its state fell prey to a commercial enterprise called East India Company - That’s to our Sepoy’s loyalty to the hand that feeds.

[@aviral5124]

Please bring dr. vikram sampath

[@cinefile0075]

😂😂😂😂

[@VARMOT123]

To make a fantasy podcast ?

[@ghanasham-apte]

No, to enlighten ignoramus like you,

[@jithenin]

Oh no my bad Sir William reintroduced Cyrus to me after many years, great to see The Cyrus Broacha and thank you Bro for this conversation with William 👍❤️ and you have added 1 more subscriber too 😄

[@cianthony1]

Today's episode is a coup d' etait. Man Big Bill Dalyrmple! Empire POD❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@soumikbiswasORbabai]

Cyrus has started doing this seriously now 😆😁

[@dulumanideka5759]

Wow, what a coincidence,:just finished reading "City of Djinns" and then come across this interview 😮

[@ps-gh3hu]

Top tier guest on podcast, what an amazing story teller. Can listen to him all day long.

[@user-cc2tf5fk4u]

Amazing !! Do more of William D !

[@lobsangsherap2559]

I mean Buddha statue is everywhere even if some of them are in the garden or living room as a dec piece . And some of them are at the door to greet people … whatever may be the intent of those statue … one is certain the appeal of Buddha is unmatched by any. And his understanding of nature of reality is most powerful and liberating. Indian and a Nepali people must be so proud of Buddha .

[@hariyer87]

William D is my favorite author. I respect him a LOT and can hear him talk for as long as possible. My best wishes with him and hope to hear him explain the history of whatever interests him

[@manasigangal2236]

Big fan of his book/ and podcast the empire! Got introduced to him through Cyrus says covid times! 😊

[@kgck15]

Mr Cyrus having hard time to insert his pjs :)

[@bugged1212]

This is pretty awesome Cyrus, I am probably going to get his book, has piqued my interest.

[@winter_silhouette]

This is a crossover I didn't expect.

[@sukhavaho]

There were financial institutions in the Vedic period, "Sreni", 1500-600 BCE. Also during the Maurya period, 321-185 BCE. These predate the Buddhist "banking" system.

[@Red.bulldozer3]

It is a shame indians did not adopt teachings but others took it

[@sinkalita]

this was so gooood ❤

[@kzmOP]

*GREATNESS OF ANCIENT INDIA OR DARE I SAY HINDUS IS MOST UNDERRATED CIVILISATION STORIES* ❤

[@amulyathaokar4741]

Need another episode to chat and learn more

[@Dev.S.]

We got Empire pod x Cyrus Says before GTA 6

[@gauravtyagi6860]

Early dharmashastras differentiate between Aryavarta and land outside it. Aryavarta is the land where vedic law applies. In the dharmashastras and arthashastra, there are rules of war for aryavarta. The rules of war are like - not attacking civilians, farmers, fighting away from cities in open land, not attacking soldiers who were injured(unable to fight), or those whose weapons were brokern, not raping women, etc. There could have been exceptions but rules of dharmashastra state those who force upon women as Rakshashas(demons)

[@bcvan9999]

The core analysis of Buddha is from the Upanishads. He expanded on the ideas and included some new ones. Buddha's analysys is possible because of the core ideas in Upanishads (that preceded him) and the freedom that Indian culture gave to thinkers for millennia.

[@dipantanch]

Upon engaging each Brahmins budhha rejected every time the concept of Union with brahma which I think is core concept of Upanishads

[@jitendrakamble7684]

No evidence of Upnishada during Budhas period, No Sankrit no Upanishad, not single reference from Upnishad by Budha himself of single richa and mantra from Upnishada.

[@ss-ib8gm]

Give examples of destroyed preislamic temples …….rama killed Ravan burnt the palace premises….such things would have happened but not annihiliation….the fact so many gods worshiped everyone eventually allowed to carryon their tradition nothing was imposed how later Islamic and Christian colonialism did to world you can compare that in that case the preislamic violence was fairly less

[@Marriedwoman73]

Love u Cyru

[@harnektl]

Don’t think Cyrus is serious enough to talk to William ….

[@johndee8648]

One and Only William. May God give you a long life so that you can write more and more. Here are books authored by William , a renowned historian and writer known for his works on India, the Middle East, and Central Asia: In Xanadu: A Quest (1989) A travelogue retracing Marco Polo's journey to the court of Kublai Khan. City of Djinns: A Year in Delhi (1993) Explores the history and culture of Delhi over centuries. From the Holy Mountain: A Journey in the Shadow of Byzantium (1997) Traces the history of Christianity in the Middle East. White Mughals: Love and Betrayal in Eighteenth-Century India (2002) A historical account of a romance between a British officer and an Indian noblewoman. The Last Mughal: The Fall of a Dynasty, Delhi 1857 (2006) Chronicles the fall of the Mughal Empire during the Indian Rebellion of 1857. Nine Lives: In Search of the Sacred in Modern India (2009) Captures nine stories of spiritual lives across India. Return of a King: The Battle for Afghanistan (2012) Details the First Anglo-Afghan War (1839-1842). Koh-i-Noor: The History of the World's Most Infamous Diamond (2017, co-authored with Anita Anand) Traces the controversial history of the Koh-i-Noor diamond. The Anarchy: The East India Company, Corporate Violence, and the Pillage of an Empire (2019) Explores how the East India Company took control of India. The Golden Road: The Ancient Trade Routes of Asia (expected in future, ongoing project). Dalrymple’s works are rich in detail and often combine travel writing, historical research, and engaging storytelling.

[@Uigjiv]

01:04:40 The way he says Akhand Bharat 😂...I remembered president Trump's vivekamunoon😂😂😂

[@iamrebel660]

Buddhist Monk Nagarjuna Bring Sunyavaad in 1St Century BC. And It's have Evidence Of Nagaarjuna. But Arya Bhatta no Evidence Found

[@RoKuSa007]

Tell me your bhimta without telling me you are bhimta 😅😂

[@123xyzabccba]

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[@123xyzabccba]

The cunning bammans have spread many lies : aryabhat, panini, shushrusha etc are some of those …bammans invented only caste-loving gods who disappeared during Covid 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dipantanch]

Someone asked a question, New breed Indian with Jai shree ram labels him, typical mindset

[@gc95915]

You guys are amazing. Loved your show. It is incredible that we learn of our history from a while guy. Our own people don’t write about such aspects of history and if they do it is highly exaggerated nationalistic narrative lacking credibility. I find it ironic that Scots and the Irish, who were brutally subjugated by England, who lost everything including their languages and who hated the English bitterly, helped subjugate Indians. It is also very sad that people of Bihar, who have a brilliant history, have been reduced to the poorest state of India. For that, I entirely hold GOI responsible for its stupid policies. If north India becomes bilingual with English, it will change the fate of South Asia.

[@kasturiswami784]

Fibonachi theorem! Wah!

[@shantibahadoersingh3148]

🙏🏽🕉️

[@swapnilkharat7020]

Cyrus seems to be enjoying the Podcasts. And that too seriously

[@Pure_Light_of_Gnosis]

In terms of quantity the greatest export of India is Buddhism but in terms of quality it’s Jainism. I just think of Buddhism as “lesser Jainism”

[@dharmverma7595]

I believe Hindu numerals and mathematics was the most important export. In fact, it was responsible for the waking up of Europe.

[@vajraheart6052]

Undoubtedly true … all these current Buddhist countries and influences owe back to India … Ashoka and Nalanda. Ironically it literally disappeared in its homeland. Some commentators seem to forget and seemed angry at this author… own and take credit. Yes from big picture globally, it’s the most influential thing.

[@rohitrane1900]

Cyrus’ ignorance is appalling sometimes here😂. Especially when hears of Yonis and Lingams in SE Asian temples, he giggles like a Victorian teenage girl without knowing what William is referring to.

[@mohitsachan11]

What a combination!!

[@adwaitrangnekar]

Please invite him again!

[@bobbyeapen6049]

Good stuff.

[@ps-gh3hu]

You guys should really re think on time restriction. Most trending podcast are non restricted. Be it desi nikhil Kamat or international joe Rogan.

[@shayon83]

Why does this podcast have a time limit?

[@anupampandey5611]

Most things he said were relatively unknown to me but one thing which I certainly know about that he got wrong was 1:06:02 is "Blasphemy" because he, with all the knowledge and wisdom he has, can't prove the concept of Blasphemy in Indian culture. That unfortunately made me dubious about his knowledge about Indian religious tradition. I am open to change my mind if he could give any evidence. Many Indian Kings used to give titles to themselves claiming to be Avatar of God.

[@nikhilsakpal7559]

Just curious - How were we in India trading with Rome back in those times. Especially when the SUEZ Canal is a much recent engineering marvel. Did the trade go around the land through the middle east.

[@rajeshkurup6595]

Was wondering the same. The Gibraltar route seems longish

[@20shourya]

through Egypt ? It was part of the Roman Empire.

[@nikhilsakpal7559]

@@20shourya Alexandria.... could be .. yes.

[@20shourya]

@@nikhilsakpal7559 in fact when I visited Pompeii and Napoli, I saw they had Indian artefacts and coins which were brought in by Indian traders to modern day Egypt. There was a statue of a dancing woman too.

[@TJSaw]

Arabs were the middle men. All trade happened by land.

[@parvadhami980]

How true! Unfortunately Buddhism has nearly vanished from India

[@siddarth3955]

People who are supporting William Darympyle have no idea how anti Hindu he is. He even says in an interview that he is trying to take back Indian history from Hindus of India. Nice.

[@Maitly1]

It doesn't seem that way at all though. What do you mean?

[@kc4276]

Not a fan of Dalrymple, but he's correct about Buddhism being India's greatest export (Yoga is #1 right now, but Buddhism has connected India to the East for 2000 years).

Nalanda trained masters in chinese admin and now IIT trained Indians in USA 🤓

[@samarthpandey683]

IITs don’t rank high on global list of top colleges, get over urself.

[@jerseygeek6840]

Loved the episode, and the line 'first Wu done it' was brilliant! I'm a big fan of the show and a regular listener. I noticed this one was done on a Sunday and ran for 90 minutes, which is unusual since Cyrus rarely goes beyond 60 minutes with his guests. It got me wondering-could it be Cyrus' colonial mindset or a touch of servility at play?

[@sanyam-pandey]

While I appreciate this historian, but I can't get over the fact that most of Indians would not have believed his words if he was not white. We still depend on foreigners to tell us our history...

[@ThePreityEffect]

Buddhism is not the greatest export of India. That’s quite offensive to say. Indias greatest export is spirituality- which includes yoga, meditation, philosophy and Buddhism among other things

[@tenzinlangdor3347]

That’s how we turn our back to truth

[@DhSK.22]

Buddhism is just 1 of the many great export of India. Prime Exports of India are Mathematics, Algebra, Trigonometry, Chemistry, Philosophy, State Craft aka Chanakya's Artha Sashtra, Yoga, Medetation, Universities, the first documented Medical Science aka Ayurveda, first book on surgery by Shushruta, Atheism too where u deny the existence of God which also became a part of Hinduism where u question the Gods & their deeds. Basically, Hinduism is the greatest gift to the mankind & animals from India. Sure it has many setbacks but it has course correcting mechanisms & theology unlike rabid Abrhamic Desert Political cults.

[@bs_slayer7906]

Lol ok

[@bs_slayer7906]

@@DhSK.22😂

[@tenzinlangdor3347]

@@ThePreityEffect export are determines by the consumption by foreigners or foreign. When they are saying Buddhism is best export from India than why making other arguments.

[@ss-ib8gm]

This Buddhist empire was misnomer the religion was interchangeable chandragupt was Hindu retired in karnatake and became Jain , Ashoka was Hindu before kalinga war itself he became Buddhist his successor were Hindus …..the citizens were mainly Hindus. It’s never like abrahmanic religion Christian vs Islam vs jewdaism

[@chaithraschaithra1618]

On that time no hindu religion was thr only two culture one is vaishnavas and another one is nagas so especially nagas kings become budhist here thr s no relationship between vaishnavas Or brahmin darma and boudha darma boudha dharma is more related nagas culture

[@Donofhades]

There is no mention of Hinduism,stop spreading fake info, Travellers have mentioned that these kings belived in some kind of Jainism or Purva Buddha religion. No Hinduism.

[@jitendrakamble7684]

There was no such word Hindu during Asokan period, even Sanskrit language did not exist.

[@ss-ib8gm]

But pre Islamic India there was no annihilation of different cultural events tribals are left to continue their tradition the tribals in other continents have been destroyed and converted. The fact India has so many language and culture shows one group did not annihilate the other while in Europe and Middle East every one got evaporated with the extreme violence . The Christian Europe went to 2 world wars

[@samarthpandey683]

That’s not true, only shows how little you know about Indian history. You didn’t even bother to listen to the entire interview, would have masked ur ignorance!

[@utsavkumar33]

​@@samarthpandey683are you out of your mind? 1) for more than 100 years muslim rulers imposed jizya tax on Hindus and then purpose of zijya is to convert Hindus and buddhist 2) why Pakistan is nearly 100 percent Muslim because of the anhilation of the hindu culture and buddhist culture 3) The reason India is hindu majority because different kingdom like(maratha, ahom, vijaynagar) and many more fought them and if they had not then, India had the same fate like(iran, afganistan, iraq, syria)

[@Maitly1]

Cyrus is so funny 😂

[@Neel-From-India]

Buddhism getting it's credit due finally in India in larger audience

[@RoKuSa007]

😅😆 ek mote gore ne bola diya to matlab ho gya credit

[@Neel-From-India]

@RoKuSa007 cry more

[@VARMOT123]

Pallavas were telugu

[@hemikovsky]

Cyrus at his best! Still learning! 😂

[@kgck15]

Ibhave heard Air India engine maintenance is good.

[@ss-ib8gm]

So nothing Arabic of antibiotics numerals , algebra

[@ss-ib8gm]

Akhand bharath never says we conquered south east it was influenced as he says with interest they adopted the culture and knowledge and that’s what the so called askhand bharatiyas are saying and no one includes south east Asia into like Pakistan dreaming mughalistan . Akhand bharath is the Afghanistan , Pakistan and Bangladesh

[@vasu.watercolors]

Why is Louis CK talking history

[@aviral5124]

please bring abhijit iyer mitra

[@20shourya]

nah man I think it is Rogan Josh.

[@aryankarki7900]

🇳🇵🕉️☸️🇳🇵🙏

[@ashishdahbara7103]

Some people won't digest

[@gbchourase2573]

True . exported to other countries and destroyed its own country.

[@kasturiswami784]

These days they teach Mahabharat as history!

[@123xyzabccba]

ramayan is not far behind 😂😂😂😂😂😂as they hv nothing worth to show except imaginary gods and imaginary creations …

[@cinefile0075]

48:34

[@Lovepreet_Singh93]

Jai Shri Ram.

[@ss-ib8gm]

Brahmin courtiers in china doing math and astronomy, astrology so the Chinese math got influenced too

[@ahmedbukhari8616]

did cyrus forgot to wear his pants???

[@123xyzabccba]

The bammans invented caste-loving gods/godesses but this consignment was rejected by the world except nepal 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@budu240]

William Dalrymple selling ice to the eskimoes

[@VedicMimansak-OM]

It was not Buddhist Legacy it was Brahmin Legacy, All Mathematician were Brahmin BrahmGupta Arya bhatt Varaha mihir Neel kanth somyaji Boudhayan Aryabhatt Bhaskracharya . . . Ramanuj If we study the Life history of Pythagoras he also learned from Brahmin. From basic Maths to Advance Maths, Brahmin contributed in Algebra Trigonometry Number Theory Geometry...... Brahmagupta is the base of basic Maths, later on Aryabhatta also contributed to Trigonometry. Calculus was Also discovered by Brahmin early than newton, i am not saying Newton copied from Brahmin Science parallely developed. In Advance Math What you have in Advance math except Ramanujan? Ramanujan lived just 32 yrs and gave more than 4000+ theorems , All modern higher thinking Artificial intelligence,black hole ,string theory, Partition function, Earth Radius.....they all have base of ramanuj eq and his most work are Yet to decode. Metaphysics The work of metaphysics is only the work of Brahmin Shaivism and Buddhism copied many things from Vedic text especially Samkhya , Yog and Vedanta

[@VedicMimansak-OM]

Why Tantra Shaivism, Vaishnavism in form of iskcon , Buddhism, Jainism , Sikhism they all religion Spread in west why not Vedic Religion? Vedic Dharm has Quite restrictions This is the only reason, West mostly love Madhyamik Buddhism and Kashmir Shaivism and that was was gift of Brahmin to Buddhism and Shaivism

[@VedicMimansak-OM]

Nalanda was made during Gupta empire KumarGupta , Gupta Empire which is Consider as Golden Period of India was most Probably a Brahmin Empire(Most Probably), The destroyer of Mughal and Nizam the Conqueror of Almost all India was also a Brahmin Baji Rao Balla bhatt , British Call him Napoleon of India

[@VedicMimansak-OM]

This Level of Intelligence and Superiority we see in Brahmin when they have left the Vedic religion and Vedic Sandhya from long time which was made to develop the Intelligence power, *_Brahmanism_* is lost low. Brahmins are following Non Brahmin religion- Idol Worship.

[@sooraj949]

Mughals left? They're still there by way of wakf board and their followers

[@Gagan99-y2j]

Cyrus bro. This guy is a serious fraud. He has a different level of hate for India.

[@dunno23]

Ok bro.

[@cinefile0075]

Here comes the propagandists

[@VARMOT123]

He did more for good indian PR than modanis have in the last 10 years.he called indians on par with Romans and greeks

[@Gagan99-y2j]

@@VARMOT123 go read his book on East India company.

[@123xyzabccba]

Every indian pm including the present fraud called modi say when they visit foreign nations that they come from the land of Buddha….because the world is aware that all hindu gods/goddesses are fictional creations of the cunning bammans to subjugate the majority hindus …