CZ-82/83: Double Stack Makarov Excellence

[@sethlewis1464]

I spent 3 months tracking one of these down for a reasonable price, ended up finding one for about 300 shipped. When i walk into the LGS for the transfer.. 'hey, a cz82? we just got one of those in this morning! I'll give it to you for 75$'. >MFW

[@cjlaw100]

Seth Lewis so now you have two?

[@inerlogic]

300 shipped? Jesus, i just bought one 8yrs later for $299 plus shipping

[@Theenragedone]

The CZ82/83 are amazing handguns. They feel good, handle well, and shoot well. Another great thing about a CZ weapon is their customer service. Their customer service is amazing, and they really do care.

[@jsearcy3247]

I tried one of these in Bulgaria not even knowing what it was (I wanted to shoot a Mak). It was incredibly accurate. Blows away anything else I've come across. Amazing weapon.

[@CZ92026]

I'm a big fan of these older CZ's. Have been wanting to get the 52 and ran across a CZ 70 at my local pawn shop for a steal. Its so much fun to shoot. And in the 32 the whole family can plink with it. Looks like I have to add the 82 to my list also. Thanks for the video.

[@Robb-jf7vg]

I was able to buy on of the last factory "New" CZ 83 pistols imported to America. I'm still looking for a near mint CZ82. These a very fine guns. And it's a shame their not available here anymore.

[@robertschumacher2707]

I like my CZ-82 so much, I had it Durakoted., titanium with matte black grips and controls.

[@Theenragedone]

I agree my buddy and I have joked for years that CZ takes weapons and make them not suck. Then they take quality weapons like the Makarov, and Browning hi power and make them not suck less. Ive also been very impressed with how they have handled the Dan Wesson line since they bought the rights to it. They are a great yet overlooked and often underrated company with a great history.

[@klxboy9994]

Ill never regret paying the $200 I did for this handgun 10 years ago. Hi Point price. Military quality.

[@Mrgunsngear]

They were actually primary side arms in the Czech military. If you're really recoil sensitive then the 32ACP will work I suppose but I'm generally not a fan of anything less than 380 or 9x18 for defensive use. That said, any gun is better than nothing so go with what your comfort level allows.

[@timkc1638]

Do you think Makarov tends to be a better option than 380 acp side by side for a female carry self defense? Love your channel.

[@828enigma6]

I'd say yes, in terms of shootability vs cost. Just be sure you use good quality defensive ammo and be sure it feeds property. And you can find enough ammo for it to practice with. I personally prefer the CZ82 for magazine capacity, but the Russian, Bulgarian, and Polish ones are acceptable but hold fewer rounds.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Better in what way? The only advantage I see is recoil but the recoil of the 9x18 in this gun is not bad at all in my opinion. The 32acp is a pretty big step down in power...

[@m.7n6]

I paid $275 for mine off j&g sales few days ago gonna be my new carry gun, bought 400 rounds of wolf 92gr fmj 9x18 mak ammo, urban carry iwb lock leather holster

[@landon9560]

Just want to add, although it doesn't have a decocker, it almost seems designed to be carried de-cocked with one in the chamber. There is a "safety" where the hammer cannot set off a round if the trigger is not depressed, it will block it before it hits the striker. You can see it in action if you take the slide off, and manually decock it, you can push the hammer forward to where it would hit the striker. If you let the trigger go, it then "raises up" and blocks the hammer. Of course, how someone carries it is always up to them.

[@NextScamdemic]

That answers my biggest concern with it, thanks!

[@landon9560]

@@NextScamdemic Just a heads up, i was reading some forum posts about it (trying to find a holster that fits it or an stl for the grips), there was a report of someone dropping it "just right" and it went off (can't remember if it was a forum post or a video). It was speculated that it fell directly on the hammer. (at this point, i think it was the CZ 82 that i read that about, but i can't remember, i was looking up info on various firearms). My old man carries his with a round in the chamber, decocked in his pocket, or hidden in his vehicle and hasn't had any problems in over a year though, so as long as you're careful, you'll likely be fine. I'm not about to go ham on mine with a brick or a hammer just to test it, but just thought you might be interested in that.

[@NextScamdemic]

@@landon9560 Thank you! I actually went a more practical route and ordered a 75D Compact PCR (has a decocker 😁) but I’m definitely going to get back to the 83 when ammo is available! Love shooting this thing

[@mikey3800]

@@landon9560 By dropping it right on the hammer, the hammer moves forward a smidgen at the same time the slide moves back towards the hammer face and when they meet it fires albeit out of battery

[@mikey3800]

@@landon9560 it moves forward a bit in spite of the hammer block

[@richardr5878]

Never saw this og video. Glad it came up in my recommendations.

[@powellmountainmike8853]

I noticed that as you shot on the chronograph test, the FPS kept rising. I believe this was because the barrel was expanding as it heated up. I would love to see the results of a chronograph test done with the barrel already warmed up by firing full mag through it to warm it well before the comparison test was made. I think it would yield more accurate results.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Indeed. Experienced shooters will not be disappointed either.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Interesting. I've used the Underwood load in this gun and never had any issues.

[@inerlogic]

Not having a de-cocker is not a big deal with the CZ-82, it has a hammer blocker. I hold the spur back, squeeze the trigger, let the trigger go, and then ride the hammer forward. As long as the trigger isn't back, the hammer can not touch the firing pin. P64 sucks to shoot, almost as bad as the BG380. I can shoot my Bulgarian Makarov all day. But my favorite 9x18 pistol is my CZ-82. I now own 3, the original i bought, and carry. Second i bought a frame and some parts that were a parts gun a buddy of mine had, i went to CZ USA's website and ordered the missing parts and rebuilt the thing into a functioning gun. And i just bought a 3rd, because the prices are going up... GREAT little handgun, not as small as a Makarov, and WAY too many parts over 40... but super accurate, reliable, and fun.

[@oldannyboy37]

Nice piece. I have always loved the 82 and 83. I passed up on the last cheap one I found and I still regret. If it fired a regular 9mm I might find a excuse to carry one. I've always found them to be like a laser pointer.

[@xcalibre222]

Just bought one for a pricey 325 but is in excellent conditon with holster and 2 mags.pistol fit my hand perfect and being a lefty, couldn't pass it up. HHMMM, now if it will only shoot good I will be happy. :) Thanks for the Vid

[@Mrgunsngear]

Good news is there's a ton of them sitting in storage but the supply will dry up one of these days.....

[@tengu190]

I put a heavier recoil spring and the CZ-83 trigger guard on mine. Both help with accuracy and felt recoil.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks.

[@tengu190]

Wolff Springs recoil calibration pak, you can figure out which spring works for you.

[@haleyvision]

Just loaded up 200 rds. of Makarov with once-fired brass and W231 powder on the extreme light end. 93 gr. LRN. My girl says it bites her right thumb bone. These should be around 700 fps. Love this gun!

[@The_Hi_Life]

I just got my milsurp cz82 a few weeks ago. Shoots like a dream, but the finish is horrible. I'm about to have it refinished and it's gonna be my new CCW.

[@Dragon_W0LF]

9x18 Makarov is better than .380 ACP- can’t change my mind

[@patricksullivan2816]

Saw one the other day at my local gun store. They're going for $499.99 now. How times have changed.

[@MingusDynastyy]

Those are fud prices, J&G has em for 319. More expensive than before but better than 500. I'm sure you can get em for 250 still if you're patient.

[@patricksullivan2816]

@@MingusDynastyy probably so. I can't imagine how much replacement parts cost let alone ammo availability. Hopefully the prices will come down over the rest of this year God willing.

[@seanm8665]

@@patricksullivan2816had to pay $25 for a replacement firing pin. Not too expensive but now I’ve got a new firing pin 😅

[@inerlogic]

​@patricksullivan2816 parts are cheap, same internals as the CZ-83 (.380) i took a frame and slide a friend had used as a parts gun and built a complete gun from replacement parts from CZUSA

[@patricksullivan2816]

@@inerlogic thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Stay blessed!

[@mkshffr4936]

I am a revolver guy at heart but given the unrest (civil war?) Springing up all over the place I probably ought to get at least one of these.

[@JdoubleU1222]

That's the same thing I heard. That's why I picked up a few boxes of PowRBall for SD in my CZ.

[@tsunami105]

jesus that thing ejects brass like no other lol

[@Odood19]

So much for hip firing from the left hand!

[@inerlogic]

Even with a heavier spring from wolff it LAUNCHES brass.... which sucks, because i reload...

[@828enigma6]

I've fired a single stack that must be around 20 lb pull. I can barely fire it with one finger. It's quite reliable. Absolutely no danger of a double action UID.

[@chriszablocki2460]

What a gem...

[@Mrgunsngear]

Classic Firearms and J&G are good places.

[@Mrgunsngear]

It's a great carry gun for sure.

[@00100111001101]

Ive been carrying Hornady XTP with a hotter load in it for about 2 weeks. The regular XTP is good, a little under-charged but it still chronys faster from a CZ82 than it says on the box and expands perfectly. But if you chrony any ammo from a CZ82 it reaches a faster speed than it it says on the box. I like the XTP bullet for whatever reason so I like to use it with a hotter superformance charge. The regular XTP is good though I still have it in a mag.

[@Mrgunsngear]

It is nuts. If I reloaded 9x18 I'd hate it because the casings are always about 20ft away...

[@inerlogic]

I re-load 9x18 with starline brass, even with heavier springs from Wolff it LAUNCHES brass...

[@Mrgunsngear]

CZ82. I prefer semi-autos to revolvers in general. I prefer more capacity to less, especially with the two options you listed 44 special is a good caliber but you lose a lot of its' benefits with such a short barrel Handgun rounds generally require multiple hits to stop an agressor (psycological stops aside)

[@Tinstar2]

Mine is on order along with 500 rounds of ammo! Can't wait!

[@Toolness1]

My first 82 was 198 bucks out the door. It was well worn finish-wise but excellent mechanical shape. That was in 2012. Now, they hardly every show up at the online retailers and when they do, they are like tree fiddy. That's just the thing with C&R and other surplus guns... grab them while you can, because once the large places like AIM, Classic, SOG, J&G, Century can't get more imports, the price is gonna jump. Just look at the Nagant revolvers..100 bucks up to 250 or more in 1.5 years or so!

[@Mrgunsngear]

+Ian Rupert They keep going up for sure

[@oStirFryo]

+Mrgunsngear Channel i just got one from aimsurplus for $299. 11left at this time.. git on it!

[@00100111001101]

The actually ammo produced for military use in the CZ-82 has GREATER pressures than the PowRball. There is no way the PowRball is too high pressure for it. Ever tried Buffalo Bore? The pressure handling capabilities of the CZ-82 IMO make the 9x18 great for the civilian market compared to *possibly* being limited in ammo use with some others. I recommend it.

[@enriquetachias920]

Cool pistol and nice place to go shooting

[@Mrgunsngear]

I did a chrono test with the CZ and that load here as well...

[@Mrgunsngear]

You're welcome. I think Weidners has them in stock currently.

[@timkc1638]

Just bought one!!!

[@julianwells4055]

What about sights? Can you change sights? I love my Russian IJ-70. But carrying 12 rnds is attractive.

[@Lex5576]

CZ has almost always made world class quality firearms. If these are anything like my Bulgarian Makarov, then they truly are excellent little pistols. They'll cycle almost any Russian surplus garbage you can put in it. I like shooting Silver Bear Mak ammo.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks.

[@MyHollowpoint]

Sweet looking pistol, I like it!

[@LYLEWOLD]

great video. I gotta say I'm not familiar with older CZs, but this makes me want one. I did get a bit confused when I saw a guy looks like MrGNG shooting at what looked like a range. weird. it's just not MrGNG unless the crops are in danger, lol. kidding aside, great vid, even with the bird

[@Mrgunsngear]

Lyle W :D

[@Mrgunsngear]

Anytime.

[@MsRaisufia]

Would you ever do a review on the CZ85?

[@DudeNumberOnePlus]

The DA problem was the ligt strikes sometimes failing to initiate the round. Tere is one recorded instance when cop had this missfire and was overpowered by criminal, who then took cop's gun and ran away. Then there was the bigger problem of it shooting when dropped on rear - in one instance it happen to fell out of the cops holser in grocery store and shooting civilian trought the head. As i stated i dont know if the civilian sold pieces are fixed or not.

[@D5quared91]

Nice Makarov!

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thank you

[@Mak933]

I'm new to guns and shooting. Why pull the gun into your chest after firing three rounds? I can see this is good practice in a combat situation so that it decreases your profile from the side, but... what other purpose?

[@slurmitshighlyaddictive5641]

+Mak933 literally nothing, just the pack mentality of someone says it's good and tactical so the rest of the gun community followed

[@thomasegolfii361]

Actually, to train presenting the firearm and finding the sights. Different firearms present differently, due to grip angle - you silly non conformist.

[@Mrgunsngear]

You'll get no argument out of me on any of those points; I'm a big Dan Wesson fan---before and after CZ's ownership.

[@CarnivoreAF]

Is it weird that of all the guns I own my Russian Makarov is my favorite carry gun?

[@Mrgunsngear]

No kidding!

[@Tinstar2]

Great video by the way.

[@roninpride]

Excellent video! What concealment holster are you guys using that conceal carry it?

[@Mrgunsngear]

Nice

[@rickcraver9786]

Any ammo will chrony faster out of a CZ82 because of the polygonal barrel. No rifling = less friction.

[@OD_G00N]

× No rifling +Polygonal rifling

[@Mrgunsngear]

Indeed

[@Mrgunsngear]

Right!

[@00100111001101]

I dont know what you mean, but if they had a problem with the first DA pull then thay dont know how to properly use their handguns. I keep mine with a round in the chamber, hammer down. When I shoot it the first pull never gives me any kind of problem.

[@DudeNumberOnePlus]

Those pistols were ditched by czech police, apart from other things because of nasty design flaw too - they shoot straight up when dropped on uncocked hammer. Hovewer recently i had my hands on one, and wasnt able to figure out how the flaw works. Wonder if those exported to US are fixed.

[@crackshot4797]

Oh nice! I have a She88 too

[@brofjw]

Nice gun and great review. But for concealed carry and self-defense what would you prefer, that or a 5-shot light alloy-frame snubby in .44 Special?

[@brianmead7556]

Why the hell would you use something with terrible recoil and capacity over a double stack pistol?

[@tehyoyo12]

Thanks!

[@Mrgunsngear]

I use a Don Hume 715.

[@Ray-tg1sj]

They don't feel as large as they are with some iwb holsters due to the slide being so small beyond the trigger guard.

[@robertpascascio9600]

tHAT bird was seriously bothered prefers the 52 haha

[@Mrgunsngear]

must

[@gph9674]

Have someone interested in trading a CZ 82 for a Kel Tec P3AT. Do you reload the 9x18 Mak? am looking into components, hard to find brass and bullets. Lots of good defensive loads out there for it though.

[@Mrgunsngear]

***** I don't, sorry.

[@Mrgunsngear]

For the money I don't think it can be beat.

[@Mrgunsngear]

I'm a CZ fan as well---they overbuild everything. Tough not to like that.

[@xmeda]

Simply don't mess with characters carrying 9x18M pistols.. they are more than enough

[@Mrgunsngear]

It's killed a lot of people behind the iron curtain over the last century.

[@Polkovic]

How is the recoil? I have a PA63 in 9/18 and it hurts my hand to fire it since it's really light

[@Mrgunsngear]

it's much more pleasant

[@johndeere1951a]

The pistol is not a Makarov. The ammunition is 9x18/9mm Makarov

[@docwilkey]

Nice!

[@Mrgunsngear]

docwilkey Thanks.

[@familyman1110]

I would have shoot that bird it spammed you the whole time great video

[@bradleys2320]

"if you could only have one": CZ 82 or 83?

[@trench_raider8247]

They're pretty much the same. Just the 82 is usually richer because of the history of military use while the 83 is just civilian use.

[@theodoreheintz7891]

Don't pinch the hammer from the side you might slip off that way.

[@tehyoyo12]

What are some good online places to buy the cz-82?

[@Mrgunsngear]

+1

[@Mrgunsngear]

Sounds like it. Also sounds like you should subscribe if you haven't yet :D

[@bigt4135]

Not $220 in 2020

[@dougtombaugh4438]

$279 got me a “good” condition one 9/2020. Kind of ugly, but a great shooter! Now it’s 7/2021, and they’ve pretty much dried up.

[@neosoc]

Thinking of having a character carry this in a short story I'm writing. Was wondering whether I could get some feedback here, guys; how effective would a CZ-82 be in a firefight ?

[@permanenceaesthetic6545]

Did you ever write it? I’d love to read it!

[@CastleDocrine87]

I know these are surplus but where can I find them??

[@Mrgunsngear]

CastleDoctrine87 gunbroker

[@CastleDocrine87]

Mrgunsngear Channel anywhere else? I kind of figured this out already.

[@jessican.1500]

This is probably a way late response, but there's usually other places online too, like J&G Sales and Aimsurplus.

[@ray1965ify]

southern ohio guns.

[@ray1965ify]

classic firearms.

[@pushmotivation-__asher1335]

I want this gun, but not for the $300 that they cost now

[@brocklanders6969]

I just paid $370 but that was for the rare CZ-83 in 7.65 Browning.

[@alextsimpoukis6482]

the RAIKAL model is the real; igor makarov pistol same collecting as luger

[@armynurseboy]

Czechs know how to make them......

[@tiagomaguina4067]

Buenas tardes quien publicar los comentarios Con interpretación espanich 5

[@Mrgunsngear]

I don't know of any besides ones that have been pinned for use in leftist controlled states.

[@cdub166]

diddo on the bird. I quit watching at about 3:30 because of it.

[@Mrgunsngear]

C Dub Fair enough. Thanks.

[@fredderf3152]

Sorry... gave this video a thumbs down because of the annoying birds!

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Nice