Why you shouldn't search with a weapon-mounted light on a handgun - Massad Ayoob Critical Mas EP40

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@DE-ef3xd
@DE-ef3xd 2 жыл бұрын
As a carrier of 20 years, we get so used to having a gun….. it is almost second nature. Sometimes we tend to forget just how much power and responsibility we have. I love the reality checks I experience when I watch these videos. It’s like a slap to the back of the head, telling you, hey! Heads up dude! Think about what you are doing or about to do. Thank you for the constant education.
@chrisriker6421
@chrisriker6421 2 жыл бұрын
How Right you are! Too many fast changing laws and as LEO's we find ourselves viewed as the criminal instead of the defender by those we've dedicated our lives to protect and serve!!!
@Sue_Me_Too
@Sue_Me_Too 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisriker6421 If less of you fuckers did sus shit you wouldn't have such a bad rap
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 Жыл бұрын
I have been riding motorcycles for well over 45 years. About 20 years ago, I moved to Texas and needed to get the "M" on my license. I didn't HAVE to take a motorcycle safety course, but doing so would expedite the process and would save me money on my insurance... At the time, I had been riding for well over 25 years; there was "nothing" any of these trainers were about to tell me that I didn't already know (especially from a BASIC riders course). I spent half the class thinking, _"My god, you mean I've been doing that wrong for 25 years?"_ CONTINUING Education is the cornerstone of anything that can potentially risk our lives or the lives of others. Processes change due to new technology or new data, LAWS change... or, like me, those who are already doing it, began doing so during a time where there was limited education and we basically have trained ourselves and we only THINK we know. Anyone who carries - or even owns - a deadly weapon, should always be seeking the opportunity for continuing education that will keep them, their family, and the public as safe as possible.
@joshuadelawrencephotograhy7619
@joshuadelawrencephotograhy7619 Жыл бұрын
Do you think that's why the right to bare arms was placed as the second amendment?
@christopherwg4236
@christopherwg4236 Жыл бұрын
That's why it's really good to rehearse good training, too many times I found myself a little too overconfident after learning I was doing it wrong.
@douglasjarnagan3835
@douglasjarnagan3835 2 жыл бұрын
You can flag innocent people by doing any search, even if you don't have a mounted light. This video really just gets across the legal risks one assumes when they grab their weapon.
@Gun_Talk
@Gun_Talk Жыл бұрын
As Clint Smith said, "Use your flashlight to get to a light switch. Never fight in the dark."
@towtruckaj
@towtruckaj Жыл бұрын
Power might be out, Always want to account for worst case scenario.
@Gun_Talk
@Gun_Talk Жыл бұрын
@towtruckAJ Power out during a zombie apocalypse with marauding bandits looking to break into your shit. Let's be honest here. Chances of your house getting broken into during a short term power outtage in a normal functioning society is pretty close to zero. Chances of someone coordinating an attack on your house where they cut the power lines in order to break in are also pretty damn slim because you're probably not that important. A crackhead looking for a quick buck to steal will not go through all that hassle. But if they did cut the power to break in, I'd say you have every right to just point your guns at them.
@towtruckaj
@towtruckaj Жыл бұрын
@@Gun_Talk sure but what isn’t uncommon is for light switches to be in inconvenient spots, certain rooms to have to little to no light depending on how finished your house is, on top of that a lot of crucial electric components and electrical shut offs are outside, some are easy to tamper with others fortunately aren’t as easy, point being a lot of situations call for low light encounters and you should at least prepare for that.
@Gun_Talk
@Gun_Talk Жыл бұрын
@towtruckAJ Yeah, I get that. Anything could happen, and situations will vary. Murphys law is a thing, after all.
@bwest8372
@bwest8372 Жыл бұрын
So you can get shot when you ain't clears the rest of the room you just Wana get to that light
@slimmestjim7517
@slimmestjim7517 11 ай бұрын
At 24 years old and recently got into owning firearms, I swear every one of your videos make me realize how many things I didn't think of. I now keep a flashlight next to my home defense pistol, which already has a WML. Thanks for the content!!
@halcyonzenith4411
@halcyonzenith4411 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a tactical expert who actually is one and gives practical advice for people in real life, as opposed to weird ways of holding an AR and how to shoot more targets faster, without regard for any of the real world implications that exist for producing a firearm anywhere outside of a shooting range.
@waynehearst317
@waynehearst317 2 жыл бұрын
I am nearly 50 years old and a gun nut. Grew up competition shooting, hunting and have probably never gone more than a few weeks without interacting with a firearm and yet....you just taught me a few things. Thank you so much, Massad. You are a true legend and pillar in the firearms community.
@lornenoland8098
@lornenoland8098 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice, as always! I would like to add: if your WML has a strobe feature, DON’T use it. Yes, it can ‘disorient’ the subject. It can also disorient you, in the sense that any movement they make will appear herky-jerky, making it difficult to accurately identify what if anything is in their hands or whether their actions are threatening or surrendering. A strobe should only be used if there is a secondary solid beam of light on he subject, in which case you can clearly see them but they see strobe when looking at you.
@faryldaryl3975
@faryldaryl3975 Жыл бұрын
I shined a 900 lumen strobe right into my eyes in front of a mirror, and rather than disorienting me the only pause it gave was to think "Huh. Look at that." For that matter, inside my lil' abode I've found that anything over 300 lumens has so much bounce-back that it impairs my sight probably just as much as anyone I'd be shining it on. If I had to search wide open outdoor areas I spoze I'd want one a them light cannons.
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 Жыл бұрын
I'd use it if you are in a local advantage. If you know the place and the perp does not. Like home invasions. Disorientation favors the prepared. It will then hurt the unprepared invader much more than you.
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 Жыл бұрын
​@@faryldaryl3975 I use an 1800lm flashlight. The bright flash itself ruins all your dark vision for minutes. And the strobe light dazzles me, even if I shine it down a hallway. Without having it shine directly onto me.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
@@faryldaryl3975 Try it in the dark. Way more effective once your eyes have adjusteed
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 Жыл бұрын
I have really yet to figure out a practical use for the strobe function on these lights. I wish they would stop adding it. It's all about positive identification so I know I am shooting at the right thing.
@mr.solitude3352
@mr.solitude3352 2 жыл бұрын
5 decades ago, and at a major city's police department's basic training class, recruits were taught to hold the flashlight with the nonshooting hand and arm extended. The instructor said, "why give the perp a signal where your torso is by holding a flashlight close to or attached to your firearm?" Why they don''t continue to teach that today beats me.
@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS
@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS 2 жыл бұрын
.... Firstly, If my weapon light is being pointed in your face .... my torso isn't facing you - my side is (not all of us use the archaic non-tactical, straight forward shooting stance). Secondly, if my 70,000+ candela weapon light is pointed at you .... you're blind and you won't be aiming at anything. ~
@Precisionstriker
@Precisionstriker 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that tactic it’s pretty cool how many different ways things are improved upon
@9unslin9er
@9unslin9er 2 жыл бұрын
I still train that way and refuse to mount a light for that reason. I can manipulate my muzzle and light in different directions. I can have my gun low ready, and my light 180 degrees.
@9unslin9er
@9unslin9er 2 жыл бұрын
@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS If your weapon light is on, I know where you are.
@INuniform
@INuniform 2 жыл бұрын
They do continue to teach that technique in my state, among others
@Haramyst
@Haramyst 2 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS learn something priceless and new to me every time i watch Mas. Please keep it coming. They'res no telling how many lives your lectures have saved.
@gowilsoncombat
@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@squirrel_82
@squirrel_82 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad videos like this are being made. So many people carrying these days with little knowledge or experience and it's frightening.
@eddieweigel9490
@eddieweigel9490 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Ayoob once again you educated me on something I didn’t know anything about. I have a Glock 23 with a weapon light my dad was a huge fan of yours he’s no longer with us but years and years ago he always said Massad gives valuable info on guns and gun laws again thank you for the education sir
@TheRealEMURSE
@TheRealEMURSE 2 жыл бұрын
G23g4 👑
@normanmccollum6082
@normanmccollum6082 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that his last name backwards is 'booya,' and that's really cool.
@TheRealEMURSE
@TheRealEMURSE 2 жыл бұрын
@@normanmccollum6082 one of my favorite random sayings 😆
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 Жыл бұрын
It can be used as a point of aim. There is a 90% probability the shooter is right handed. One handed and with the light raised and off to the right is better. That is when a left handed shooter has a momentary advantage. Do not limit your range of vision. Rightys only do the opposite. But if you are not the one wearing the uniform, you are screwed.
@edjacala3025
@edjacala3025 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point Mass on use of flashlight instead of gun light to search on suspicious target. Thank you.
@hansolo755
@hansolo755 2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from this video. Mas explains everything he speaks about so crystal clear that it’s a pleasure to listen to him and learn from him. Keep the videos coming!
@peteto1
@peteto1 Жыл бұрын
Mas is the G.O.A.T. of concealed carry, legal CYA. His decades of police work and testifying as an expert at trials all over the country make him an indispensable treasure for gun owners/carriers everywhere.
@titan_o7
@titan_o7 Жыл бұрын
These are all fantastic points and part of the reason I always carry a small handheld light in my pocket as well as a weapon mounted light on my handgun. Fenix PD25R for the pocket light and a Surefire X300 for my pistol. I mainly carry both as a contingency for the other but also carry a handheld light because I need it more often than not. And obviously pulling out your handgun to find a tool you dropped in the engine compartment of a truck with a bunch of people all around in the shop is a no-go. I cannot praise enough the benefits of having a pocket light. That, plus a good folding blade and your handgun is essential.
@Thenikksmeister
@Thenikksmeister Жыл бұрын
I always suggest having a good pocket light to everyone. I use it almost on the daily
@prezmil4282
@prezmil4282 2 жыл бұрын
If it gets to the point of me actively searching with my gun I’m already positive it’s not just a “guest” that I forgot I invited over.
@HotBoii91
@HotBoii91 Жыл бұрын
What if it’s ur drunk cousin lol
@prezmil4282
@prezmil4282 Жыл бұрын
@@HotBoii91 That broke into my home in the middle of the night?
@HotBoii91
@HotBoii91 Жыл бұрын
@@prezmil4282 or ur drunk son visiting home from college? Everybody’s family situation is different is the point I’m making.
@prezmil4282
@prezmil4282 Жыл бұрын
@@HotBoii91 I don’t have a drunk son and yes, that’s why I only spoke for myself.
@HotBoii91
@HotBoii91 Жыл бұрын
@@prezmil4282 drunk mom?
@flyinlow6692
@flyinlow6692 2 жыл бұрын
So you search with a hand held light with gun pointed downward & you find the intruder with his gun drawn, presented & sights on you. By the time you drop your light and present he probably will fire already. Why are the good always at a legal disadvantage?
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 2 жыл бұрын
because the good are stupid.
@Da_Benski
@Da_Benski 2 жыл бұрын
Well an intruder with a gun out will probably see you with your flashlight before you see them. I'd think PROPER handheld tactical light should inflict significantly more night blindness to an intruder than a WML to balance the delay factor.
@MadMagyar13
@MadMagyar13 2 жыл бұрын
I’m no tactical expert, but why would you walk around the house with the flashlight on, instead of just using a momentary illumination? Walking around with the flashlight on is a good way to let everyone know where you are and where you’re going
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 2 жыл бұрын
@@MadMagyar13 my dude, you are making logical points, tactifags don't use logic
@stephenrogers5593
@stephenrogers5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@MadMagyar13 yea. Black Scout Survival said basically what you said on his channel a while ago. A light on a gun isn’t meant for keeping on perpetually and looking around in almost every case. Most notably because it gives your position away.
@BlueRidgeCritter
@BlueRidgeCritter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys so much for bringing this one up. This has bothered me for a very long time. I have seen so many videos of, and have personally witnessed, security guards, cops (*especially* cops) etc. flag people with loaded guns because they were using their WML flashlights to simply search for something or for illumination, instead of using a separate light. I know it’s more convenient, but there’s a fine line between convenient and lazy/dangerous. I understand the argument for needing to ID or blind the target in an actual situation, but that is one of the few times where flagging is understood, and possibly justified. Personally, I think it’s laziness more than anything. This is why I don’t have WML‘s personally. I train with tac lights the old fashioned way. I understand there are situations where they are beneficial, as it keeps the gun in the flashlight together and offers one-handed use. I get that. But overall, I say if you’re going to use one, carry a separate one.
@josel2408
@josel2408 4 ай бұрын
First off, if you're in a situation where you lawfully deemed it necessary to draw your firearm, then we have established based on various factors that whatever you are searching for is a threat and is lawful to have them at gun point. If you only draw your firearm when lawfully allowed then you will always have good reason to assume the subject located is a threat and only after determining he is not a threat, do you stop flagging the person. Let's use common sense, obviously if you hear a noise in your front lawn you should not flag anyone, but that's because that situation does not require a firearm to be drawn!! If you have a lawful reason to believe there is a home intruder then treat as a threat until proven not a threat.
@onlineconsumer4796
@onlineconsumer4796 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. This is the best channel for gun related content. I shot IDPA indoors where we could have a dark stages. We used separate flashlights from our firearms. There were many different techniques used. I used a small LED light (SK78) that I could hold in my left hand between my middle and fore fingers and press the button on the back of the flashlight with my thumb to use it. When I needed to engage the target, I would fully depress the light button so it would stay on, point my firearm at the target and while holding the flashlight pointed at the target, I would use my left hand to support the firearm. Hard to explain so I googled searched images and found "Randi Rogers on Shooting With A Light" showing what I use but my light is a bit smaller. If the target was close, I could shoot single handed but I found this much better than one handed shooting because it added support to the firearm. Make it part of your dry fire practice. I do not use any mounted lights on my firearms as switching would just complicate things. If you have a mounted light, consider how and when you will turn it on.
@jasonday5143
@jasonday5143 2 жыл бұрын
Huge props for the thorough explanation. Gun safety and respect needs to be taught and received more and this was a fantastic example of explaining thoroughly what should and should not be done. Thank you.
@elsuperpollo2273
@elsuperpollo2273 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually humbled ayoob brought this up and I'm so glad when I worked as a armed security guard and in executive protection I never used a weapons mounted light and I always used a separate flashlight/torch.
@Cerakote123
@Cerakote123 Жыл бұрын
Thats because you were a rent-a-cop 😂
@elsuperpollo2273
@elsuperpollo2273 Жыл бұрын
And at least I got away with more things, go ahead and laugh life is too short. Till then go f**k yourself
@muzzlevelocity4397
@muzzlevelocity4397 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Having never had to try to conduct a search with a gun and having no lights mounted on my firearms, I confess to being ignorant about this issue and its importance. Once again, thanks to Massad Ayoob, I am ignorant no more.
@anthonybarillari8844
@anthonybarillari8844 2 жыл бұрын
same here buddy i buying hand held flashlight
@100vg
@100vg 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a light mounted on my pistol, but there are so many things we may do because we don't know the letter of the law. Always such wise and considered advice, Mas. Thanks
@jimmartini77
@jimmartini77 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always concerned with counter detection. My light gives the bad guy a fix on my location, often before I see him.
@RonSpilker
@RonSpilker 11 ай бұрын
They probably already know you're there.
@TomJakobW
@TomJakobW 10 ай бұрын
@@RonSpilkerthey know you’re *there* but they don’t know *where* ! 😅
@marshonmellows
@marshonmellows 10 ай бұрын
Jim is running around with nods in his house
@JoshMarine81-ze8jy
@JoshMarine81-ze8jy 5 ай бұрын
@@marshonmellowshahaha
@brettgodfrey9536
@brettgodfrey9536 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Ayon’s clear-headed, experienced-backed wisdom and logic is so very valuable. I wish it were more contagious.
@d.b.1176
@d.b.1176 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt anyone would be charged if you point a gun at someone you don’t know in your own house in the middle of the night.
@Jay-kf3od
@Jay-kf3od 10 ай бұрын
You won't. And if it was your brother. It's not like he's filing charges. Just ultra Fudds saying fuddy shit. Love telling ppl to not use things for their intended use. I swear they will tell me next to not use my pocket knife to cut open boxes because it will dull the blade.
@xenosayain1506
@xenosayain1506 10 ай бұрын
The states with brandishing laws might as sad as it is.
@d.b.1176
@d.b.1176 9 ай бұрын
@@xenosayain1506 😂
@jacoballen8616
@jacoballen8616 9 ай бұрын
@@xenosayain1506 Got any examples of it happening?
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 6 ай бұрын
I think he’s more speaking to carry guns, and/or outside the home but he did also mention that someone may have invited someone to your home that you were not aware of. For what it’s worth, I have a WML on my home defense gun, but not on my carry pistols. I just think there is more utility, and much less downside, of a light in home defense application.
@j-dub8399
@j-dub8399 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great lesson. I took tactical pistol courses for two years and my instructor did not prefer weapon mounted lights and always taught the use of momentary handheld flashlights.
@peterreily1490
@peterreily1490 2 жыл бұрын
Did your instructor teach you about both hands on the handgun? I’m actually asking a question I’d love to hear the answer of.
@j-dub8399
@j-dub8399 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterreily1490 it’s a great question! Jokingly, it’s called a “handgun” and not a “handsgun”. But in all seriousness, your support hand will generally (a) rest under your strong arm’s wrist (b) rest above your strong arm’s elbow pit or (c) be used tactically away from the body to not give away your specific location. We also trained with various ambush tactics, on moving targets, and on the move but that’s why I said “generally”. I am by no means qualified to teach on this. My instructor was a former special ops sniper and the training was pretty hardcore. Often too hardcore for me.
@lowprofile2412
@lowprofile2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@j-dub8399 great advice, even “if not qualified “
@MachoJoey1
@MachoJoey1 2 жыл бұрын
The saying is a WML doesnt replace a handheld light.
@Snookynibbles
@Snookynibbles 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterreily1490 ,there are multiple tactical flashlight holding techniques being taught. One if the more popular is the (Michael) Harries technique. None of the techniques afford a strong off-hand grip; employing a non gun-mounted tactical flashlight involves a bit of a compromise, one that still makes sense.
@vernonsteinkamp1088
@vernonsteinkamp1088 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was unaware of the consequences you brought up in this segment. I sent this to my son as well.
@deno2566
@deno2566 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to every Mas video I can get. Thanks Mas and thanks Wilson Combat!
@machbaby
@machbaby 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a flashlight/laser for my carry pistol. I'm glad I caught this video. Thanks.
@RedDragonProtection
@RedDragonProtection 2 жыл бұрын
Great point, that's actually how I was trained as a new cop on fto. I'm happy to hear that.
@michaelwashe7614
@michaelwashe7614 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Most criminals are not going to assume a mounted weapon light. Now if it turns into a gunfight after the fact, I'm turning the light off. but until then I'm pointing my gun exactly where I'm looking and if they are in my house, god help them.
@tobylopez445
@tobylopez445 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your frame of thought on the use of lights. great video, Sir.
@reesex3882
@reesex3882 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Massad. I learned a couple of new things, tonight. I’ve entertained the idea of buying a light for my home defense gun. I just have to do my research on finding the appropriate light that’s suitable for my needs.
@Rbuffdogs
@Rbuffdogs 7 ай бұрын
I could listen to this gentleman for hours. Commons sense, "Dad Humor" , straight talk, decades of experience.
@Vorusen
@Vorusen Жыл бұрын
If only 10% of the owner of firearms were as diligent as you then we wouldnt have a lot of the problems we currently do. The amount of respect you show when speaking of a loaded firearm is what everyone needs to understand. Things like scanning a field with your hunting rifle scope because you're to cheap to buy binoculars means you are pointing a loaded rifle any anything and anyone in that area is what most people dont understand
@blkstang4830
@blkstang4830 2 жыл бұрын
A weapon mounted light is a tool. Tools can be used for an advantage if used properly. If used improperly then it could be a disadvantage. Point is get training to know how to take advantage of the light in different situations.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
Yep! Having more tools in the toolbox is always better
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you. I’ve always used a hand held (and rarely illuminated) high-intensity flashlight. Why: 1. I know my home’s “territory,” but the felon doesn’t; I don’t want to provide any illumination than might help the criminal. Therefore, I’ll activate the light only for a second . . . IF I need to make an identification. 2. I don’t want to reveal my position or my movements. 3. I don’t want to provide the felon with a target; most firing stances place the weapon-mounted light very near your center-line.
@hummingbird_saltalamakia
@hummingbird_saltalamakia 2 жыл бұрын
strobe effect would disorient
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 2 жыл бұрын
@@hummingbird_saltalamakia May be disorienting to both the felon and the lawful defender. I’m generally not in favor of fashionable adjuncts; rather, I believe in mastering and executing the long-acknowledged fundamentals with precision and skill.
@JWH-01
@JWH-01 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. You make some great legal and safety points. In addition to your points, I don't want to depend on a light (weapon mounted or not) unless absolutely necessary. I don't want the light making me a target.
@d0bbs
@d0bbs 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone of experience verify some of my thoughts. All of the guntubers like talking about absolutely needing a weapon light for positive target ID. I get what they mean I think, but they mostly are talking about everyday carry and I believe that’s flawed. I’m walking in a dark parking lot and see someone approaching me. I draw my weapon and shine my extremely bright weapon light at them. Oh it’s a mother and child, maybe I’ll stop pointing my gun at them now. That seems far more likely than armed bad guy. In the civilian world using a weapon light to ID seems very situational and mostly stupid. If I’m drawing my weapon in public I’ve already identified a threat or else I’m not clearing garment in a Walmart parking lot. Yes before I fire I want to be absolutely sure of my target and the immediate area surrounding them. A weapon light seems important as that final check before using my CC, but a EDC light seems far more valuable.
@ryanjofre
@ryanjofre Жыл бұрын
This is 100% the Uncle that we all wish we had! Honesty, common sense and pragmatism is so tragically rare in our world today! I don’t have lights on my pistols! I was trained with gun in my right hand(I’m right handed) and “sure-fire” in my left hand with proper tactics for both!🙏 Godspeed
@mrstepcase81
@mrstepcase81 2 жыл бұрын
This is if im looking for my keys? Bro, if I'm searching with my gun, then I need my gun, don't you think? No one's searching Walmart with a gun if the lights go out.
@townhall05446
@townhall05446 2 жыл бұрын
Your info on these videos and in Gravest Extreme is invaluable. One of the most memorable for me - and I see some people observing this in home defense situations where an intruder was shot - is that they fired the weapon to STOP the intruder. NOT to kill them. Just saying you meant to kill them puts you in hot water. Word choice means everything and I thank you for that gem.
@boblynch7348
@boblynch7348 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Massad. As always your videos are excellent.
@gowilsoncombat
@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@DewJohnson1
@DewJohnson1 Жыл бұрын
As a police officer for many years, old school 80s-90s, I always used a hand held flashlight in one hand, service revolver in the other during a search, in the army in Afghanistan I had a M4 with laser, and light, but that was another situation! yet, great lesson Massad....
@John-se5vc
@John-se5vc 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir, for your priceless advice. My introduction to you was your book "In the Gravest Extreme". I thank God that several decades have passed since I read that book without any mishaps whatsoever. That book was a kick in my butt, and I am glad you did!
@goaway3717
@goaway3717 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent logic. Thanks for the information. I've used one for years but mainly for the laser sight and always in combination with my regular flashlight. I also live alone with no one other than me having legal access to the home so my circumstances are a bit different at this stage of my life, but I'd still never search with only the light on the weapon.
@nathanhardy1353
@nathanhardy1353 2 жыл бұрын
While I understand not wanting to point you gun at someone, if your clearing a room with a weapon your gun should be oriented with your eyes. A weapon light just gives you clarity of what your pointing at. The question most of us should be asking is why are we clearing rooms and if absolutely necessary how can we mitigate risk like running into people who are innocent.
@timothyvotaw7517
@timothyvotaw7517 2 жыл бұрын
More good, practical wisdom from Mas. It's so easy to make an unintended "mistake" in these situations, particularly with the twisted legal systems in so many jurisdictions, that now favor a perp over their intended victims. Train, practice, think, prepare.
@designated_hitter_EGA
@designated_hitter_EGA 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty obvious why. Don't need any wisdom, just a functioning brain in the cranium.
@War4theWest
@War4theWest 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, more people need to get this. I figured it out by doing some simple drills at home at night - a real wake up call. I realized several things. First, "night sights' are useless without a light cuz sights don't illuminate things. Then I realized that I was pointing a loaded gun at everything I was looking at and thought it through. I could unintentionally escalate a conflict due to someone's reaction to me pointing a gun at them.
@Benis650
@Benis650 Жыл бұрын
I don't even need a gun in my country (and we are not able to), but I like this video. He speaks in a calm, composed manner, with logical and well-organized thoughts. He also has a deep and trustworthy voice, good one
@agvulpine
@agvulpine Жыл бұрын
If I'm searching in the dark with a flashlight for a secretly invited guest, they're getting a gun pointed at them until I'm informed of that invitation.
@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS
@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS 2 жыл бұрын
.... One key statement by Massad that many people overlooked, with regards to being charged with felony aggravated assault for pointing your weapon at someone who [turns out to be] a known person of no threat in a home/self defense scenario was .... "WITHOUT LEGAL JUSTIFICATION". Any well-versed attorney (which I am not by any means implying that Massad is not), knows that the establishment of a reasonable fear of the immediate application of force can be applied to not only the suspected intruder who had the weapon pointed at them, but also the homeowner; provided that the weapon was only pointed at the suspected intruder, until identification was established. This is due to the fact that prior to the identification of the unknown individual, the homeowner is obviously unaware of who is in their home and is therefore presented with a clear and present threat of danger, serious bodily injury and/or death and as such, reasonably believes that the immediate use of force would be necessary to defend against said threat - hence, the grounds for "legal justification" are present in such a scenario, irrespective of whether or not a mounted weapon light was used. ~
@scubasleeve3497
@scubasleeve3497 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying what I also said in a much better way. I don't like the "scare tactic" used here and ignoring all the points you just made.
@williamjonesiiimd907
@williamjonesiiimd907 Жыл бұрын
Another highly informative video, teaching me things that I had not considered. Thank you!
@omarsalazar723
@omarsalazar723 Жыл бұрын
Massed, attorney here. Great video and great advice. You may have saved a couple lives with this one.
@johnconway8492
@johnconway8492 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent advice. I had a long discussion with a friend on this topic. He has a gun mounted light and I’ve never been a fan. My argument is this…if in total darkness you are walking around with pistol and light on and the bad guy is sitting in a dark corner with gun , he knows exactly where you are.
@robertwillis4061
@robertwillis4061 Жыл бұрын
Notice that often in movies the FBI, SWAT or Troops use weapon mounted lights or Lasers. Effectively giving away their location and direction of travel.
@fultron4307
@fultron4307 Жыл бұрын
But what if the person you find isnt a bad guy? How are you identifying them? Verbal commands? Then they still know where you are and you still have no idea of knowing who they are.
@austinmurph9248
@austinmurph9248 Жыл бұрын
If you are using it incorrectly. Its supposed to be a quick flash and then off and move.
@davidtalley6858
@davidtalley6858 Жыл бұрын
This man is teaching me things our range instructors at the academy NEVER did! Ayoob is a BEAST!
@themonkster333
@themonkster333 Жыл бұрын
Listen to this guy and wake up in heaven.
@mikeyakus2939
@mikeyakus2939 2 жыл бұрын
Always educational. Thanks for a brilliant safety lesson.
@jckcpd4539
@jckcpd4539 2 жыл бұрын
Great advise from a true expert in laws that involve firearms. I can only wish that my Police Department would have Massad on video as part of in-service training instead of woke social issues.
@Out_of_The_Furnace_2013Film
@Out_of_The_Furnace_2013Film 2 жыл бұрын
What caliber and gun are you guys issued
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын
Those woke social issues will save them from being sued for millions of dollars for beating up or accidentially killing unarmed poor people.
@jckcpd4539
@jckcpd4539 2 жыл бұрын
@@Out_of_The_Furnace_2013Film The 9mm is most common as a police duty firearm
@adamsaylor7427
@adamsaylor7427 2 жыл бұрын
Social issue education will actually prevent a lot of shootings in the first place, but yes, add Massad as a part of weapons training
@jckcpd4539
@jckcpd4539 2 жыл бұрын
I respectly disagree with Adam. It is my experience that police firearm training is lacking and that more available time for advance training is required. Point and shoot only training lacks tactical shooting needed by police officers. I don't see how spending time on woke social issues saves lives or improves a police officer's expertise with his firearm.
@b-reel
@b-reel Жыл бұрын
Every gun owner should watch Mr. Massad's videos... it makes sense and it improves safe gun handling, no matter which country you are in the world.
@Sola_Scriptura_1.618
@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 5 ай бұрын
This makes total sense. I have heard the argument that tactical teams have gun-mounted flashlights, so why can't we? The answer is simple: tactile teams perceive everything and everyone as a threat, and they also have immunity while conducting police business. Great video.
@birdsoup777
@birdsoup777 2 жыл бұрын
Life saving and safety wisdom. Thank you.
@ThePoorBoy
@ThePoorBoy 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you want to really do it right as a 2A person, I don't think there's a better resource out there than this channel. There are many great channels now, but between Mas, Bill, and Ken, you're getting a combined total of nearly two centuries of wisdom from these guys. We are so lucky...
@phil5569
@phil5569 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if you use a flashlight, in the event of tracking an armed suspect, hold the flashlight laterally at arms length away from your body as you search. That way given that your light makes your position obvious, if they take a shot at you, they might miss, as apposed to holding the light (or a weapon light) right in front of you, you give them a center-mass target.
@michaelloomisiii3475
@michaelloomisiii3475 2 жыл бұрын
Same way I was trained. Also, we were instructed to have a lanyard long enough to make that stretch that you mentioned in your post. When you need to use that hand to manipulate door handles etc, you can simply let go of the light instead of stowing it.
@HDSME
@HDSME 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! The fbi didn't teach that maybe now they learned never used a fun mounted light!
@elmateo77
@elmateo77 2 жыл бұрын
@@HDSME A fun mounted light? Is that like a multicolored disco ball that goes on the end of your gun and plays music?
@LanternOfLiberty
@LanternOfLiberty 2 жыл бұрын
@@elmateo77 for me, I don't really know the answer to that question. However, in a non-life-threatening situation, that would be f****** awesome! 😂😂😂
@SkoolyRatt
@SkoolyRatt 2 жыл бұрын
Your 100% right Phil
@jayteefishing1543
@jayteefishing1543 Жыл бұрын
I get it. Let’s be as safe as we can. It’s not at all the same…a weapon light and a scope. I’m not out in the woods with a 30.06 scanning the woods for a guy breaking into my house. I’m in the house scanning for a guy that just kicked in my door or whatever. You can’t really make those one and the same. I love y’all at WC but this is a reach. Weapon mounted lights are to make searching in the dark easier so I have both hands on my weapon. If I’m searching my home with my gun, I’ve already made it clear that someone’s there that shouldn’t be. The first thing I do if that situation is at hand is take inventory of my family. Wife, kids, check, ok now any other human in this house is a bullet stopper. See, I live in Tennessee. In Tennessee, we know everybody has guns so we don’t screw around and come around unannounced. I don’t have much family anyway so that’s never going to happen. If someone is in my home, I’m shooting first and asking questions later. I’ll be damned if they get passed me and get to my family. If we go into home defense mode, my wife and kids have their role and they know what to do. They won’t be anywhere near me. Besides all that, I’m very well trained as are a lot of guys in this comment section. I would like to think a lot of us can search a structure with a weapon light while still being aware of what’s going on.
@heloanp81
@heloanp81 Жыл бұрын
Taking the time to search with a secondary light source and then dropping it to maneuver your firearm takes time. It's the same principal as carrying a loaded firearm. Some say you shouldn't carry with a round in the chamber for safety because it doesn't take long to charge the weapon. Others say the act of putting a round in the chamber takes precious time that could result in you losing your life or not. Seconds matter in a fight for your life. Milliseconds matter. The time it takes for you to put a round in the chamber could cost you your life the same as dropping your secondary light source to engage the target will. My opinion is that the amount of training you've had should dictate whether you use your weapon's light source or your secondary. Also, the scenario should as well. If my dogs are barking at something in the backyard, I'm not going to go out guns a blazing. If someone kicked open my front door, I can assume they're not trying to sell me girl scout cookies.
@flashpointbravo
@flashpointbravo 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a cop in a huge city. I’ve had to do building searches many many times, both with and without weapon mounted lights. No weapon mounted light really really sucks. Maybe as a cop I was allowed to temporarily point a loaded gun at some innocent where a regular citizen wouldn’t, I don’t know. But having to open doors and work a radio and move things with my support hand while my primary hand held whatever weapon bearing light was really handy. Thinking of doing everything other than holding my weapon with my support hand makes me thing that hand would be overwhelmed with tasks.
@aaroncheney9966
@aaroncheney9966 2 жыл бұрын
I am also a cop. I definitely had to take this in context. I use my WML every search. If I didn’t it would be task saturation to the point of being dangerous. And the quality of any gunfire I send down range would be hurt . His advice isn’t for professionals tho this is good advice for a home owner.
@BPenton
@BPenton 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaroncheney9966 I disagree. As a 27 year veteran cop, and a 22 year veteran firearms instructor, I can tell you that his advice is DEFINITELY for Law Enforcement and civilians alike. You shouldn't be pointing your weapon at everything you look at while searching. Have your weapon in your dominant hand in position Sul, and have your handheld flashlight in your support hand. It takes no time to bring the weapon up to engage or cover a threat when you identify one. Remember that LEO's are held to a much higher standard with regard to accidental shootings than civilians are. We never teach to search with a WML. It's just not how we do it. Stay safe Brother!
@gordenrussell7266
@gordenrussell7266 2 жыл бұрын
For 12 years I showed movies in a Grindhouse and between showings I had to pick up cold cups and butter tubs while the credits were rolling so that I could get upstairs to thread the projector and then run down to tear tickets. So to stuff the trash bag I carried a penlight made of plastic so that I could hold it in my teeth while reaching under seats for all of those empty candy boxes.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
​@@BPenton I disagree with your statement that LEOs are held to a higher standard. That's what is supposed to happen, but reality rarely reflects that anymore. A police officer gets innocence until proven guilty, as it should be. They have an entire police force and government giving them the benefit of the doubt. To be fair, this idiotic "defund the police" movement often puts an unnecessary target on their back in the public eye, so I can definitely sympathize with that. However that same public scrutiny can destroy the life of a private citizen just as easily due to mindless anti-gun rhetoric. A citizen who shoots a mugger or housebreaker gets one expensive lawyer on their side, that's it. Everyone else tends to assume the worst of their actions until proven otherwise beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially these days when criminals tend to have more rights in the court system than law abiding citizens.
@BPenton
@BPenton 2 жыл бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 respectfully, put on a badge and God forbid have an incident where you use deadly force. I can personally attest that was the worst 19 months of my life. I can without any hesitation tell you that LEO’s are held to a higher standard than civilians because of their training. We live in glass houses, but I’m not complaining, just stating a fact. I know of several cases in my career where civilians have used deadly force and the case was simply sent to the grand jury for a no bill. The investigation following a use of deadly force incident in law enforcement, is far more complex. The legal term you were eluding to is qualified immunity. That is under attack at every angle. I know that it can be an unwelcome event in a civilians life, but it’s not the same.
@doughudgens9275
@doughudgens9275 2 жыл бұрын
My solution is to have 2 lights on in the house all the time. They are low power LED’s so they don’t burn much energy, but provide enough light to clear the house in case of a problem. They also tend to discourage burglars because they see a light in the window and think someone is up. This also means I have enough light to do things at night without turning on a light to see.
@Duzzies-101
@Duzzies-101 Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge house burglaries nearly always occur during the day, business hours specifically
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's years of Combat, and maybe the training I've continued for the the past decade after military service...... But forgive me for not being willing to sacrifice seconds when milliseconds count. If you have time to drop the flashlight and switch to WML, you just got shot. Bad guys don't wait for you to switch to your weapon while they're aiming through the blind side of the closet doorway. Milliseconds! It's not ideal sure........ But if I flag someone who's not supposed to be somewhere believe me...... They were not supposed to be there. If for some unlikely reason it isn't a threat that requires deadly force, at least that's a decision I have the ability to make. You won't get that decision if you flag your handheld at that methed out intruder pointing a blaster at you. That's where I stand. Right or wrong? Who's really the judge? In this case I am, and I'm making sure my family and I don't fall victim in order to save someone's Fe Fe's from being flagged.
@pray4mojo35
@pray4mojo35 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best advice on pistol lights. I’m surprised at the amount of civilians who have weapon lights on their concealed carry pistols.
@shog4267
@shog4267 5 ай бұрын
I respect this man. Very articulate and a wealth of knowledge however, I know the amount of occupants in my house…which is one after I send her home. If my antennas go up because my alarm goes off or I hear a shattered window then in my hands will be the weapon with the weapon light.
@QuietGuitaristfan
@QuietGuitaristfan Жыл бұрын
The way you casually and straight-faced said "booger hooker" and "bang switch" in the same sentence had me dying for a minute.
@charlesg5085
@charlesg5085 Жыл бұрын
This guy is stone cold. He attacks men's rears with no care.
@LKaramazov
@LKaramazov Жыл бұрын
That part about being charged for almost taking your gun out of its holster is CRAZY!
@foxhoundusmc
@foxhoundusmc Жыл бұрын
While that's possible, it's not probable, and I think that's a context this specific video is sorely lacking. You don't have to wait until you are actively being murdered, to prevent your murder. No sane judge/jury on Earth would actually convict you of anything simply for maneuvering your defensive weapon in such a way as to make it ready for use under circumstances you can articulate justify it. Such a conviction would literally upend our entire right to self-defense (look to the Rittenhouse case for examples of how absurd a case would need to be made to even attempt that, as well as the outcome).
@MrGahndiii
@MrGahndiii Жыл бұрын
Depends if it was to intimidate. It's hard to know. If so though I have no sympathy. Maybe I heard the story wrong though...
@spookytkid
@spookytkid Жыл бұрын
in or CC class they brought in a lawyer. he said assume you will be arrested for any action you will take with your gun and assume they will take your vun for it. assume every prosecutor, judge and juror will be a anti gun. let that along with compleat knowledge of the law guide you actions and you might be ok.
@foxhoundusmc
@foxhoundusmc Жыл бұрын
@spookytkid if that's the case, you're already fucked. Do what you need to in order to survive, and let the chips fall where they may on the legal side.
@spookytkid
@spookytkid Жыл бұрын
@@foxhoundusmc it just means train adequately, know the laws, act appropriately. then if any one or more of those things become a reality your lawyer has the best chance to defend you successfully. but hey go ahead and John Wayne it, and when you're carrying out your duty's as Tyrone's wife in the federal pen. you xan look back on those words of wisdom in a KZbin comment section and your flippant response. good luck Duke, lol
@retselyarrh3895
@retselyarrh3895 2 жыл бұрын
So you’re saying in the middle of the night when you hear noise in your house your gun should be hostered till you know? So how do you clear your house safely then!
@paulh6101
@paulh6101 2 жыл бұрын
You don't clear your house unless u have extensive training, its not worth it. You gather all important persons with your firearm and then set a boundary if u havent already come across the threat. Call the police.
@anthonymayor5171
@anthonymayor5171 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the gun pointed at the ground and search with a flash light.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow 2 жыл бұрын
My procedure is this Step 1: Scream out "Let's do this" Step 2: If I don't hear "Leeroy Jenkins!" yelled back...proceed to step 3A Step 3A: You jump in with murderous intent...Weapons hot... If the voice does yell back "Leeroy Jenkins!", you proceed to Step 3B Step 3B: You jump in with murderous intent...with your favorite flogging device... Mine is a hockey stick... If on the rare chance they have brought chicken, you have stern words with them while you eat.
@KB1229YN
@KB1229YN 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymayor5171 eyes and muzzle should be pointed in the direction of the possible threat not at the ground
@anthonymayor5171
@anthonymayor5171 2 жыл бұрын
@@KB1229YN and thats how you accidentally shoot grandma who is sleepwalking
@nategrossman3006
@nategrossman3006 Жыл бұрын
I can't say I agree. Definitely good point and always good to double check ourselves even when we believe we are perfect. However if I am clearing rooms, a weapon mounted light will be my only choice as speed and ease of movement is my main priority. If I have to drop or put away a flashlight to draw my firearm I will be wasting valuable seconds. And as for the potential criminal charges, as long as you are in a state with good self defense laws and only draw your firearm on your own property you will be fine. That being said being in public is a different story and I can understand your perspective there.
@4deuce31
@4deuce31 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are a few people in the comments that need to rewatch this video. They misinterpreted what was being said or they just had to inject their 2 cents without watching the entire video. (BC) Literally everything Mr Ayoob said was 100% correct and factual. If you really wanted to be bored by "contect" then the vid would have been 20 minutes longer. And Mr Ayoob did put enough context in it. However some people don't listen well enough and have to talk over the one actually speaking and teaching because "they know better". Mr Ayoob is no noob, go research his history. This video was mainly pointed at the untrained home owner, a little for the hunters and a sprinkle of LE. The tactical use of lights on firearms has changed over the yrs and hasn't gotten to everyone yet. I'm a firm believer that as it is our right to keep and bear arms, it is our responsibility to also get training from a knowledgeable source that has had actual real world experience. Every instructor and coarse is different. It's up to us to decide if the training is beneficial, appropriate and useful. All Mr Ayoob is doing here is imparting knowledge from decades of experience to the untrained noob, hunters and some LE.
@zososldier
@zososldier 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, as a private citizen, I'm not searching my house without turning the lights on. Almost every trainer and expert says to shelter in place in a designated location with what ever room aheads light on. Not to mention if you fear you are being burglarized, you have justification (in most jurisdictions) to have a weapon up and ready. Outside is a bit different. Public vs private property is different. There is no "one size fits all answer".
@JamesReedy
@JamesReedy 2 жыл бұрын
This is my basic approach now, shelter in place and use the element of surprise. I used to go outside armed when I heard a noise in the back yard etc. That was until one day the PD showed up at my house late knocking on my front door asking to come thru the house into my backyard to encircle a neighbor who was threatening his mom and they were concerned would jump the fence to flee. It occurred to me, what if they hadn't asked my permission and just went in my backyard in the interests of expediency? Could have ended up with dead or injured cops and/or myself...no thanks.
@Wastelandman7000
@Wastelandman7000 2 жыл бұрын
Well, sometimes you're not sure there is a break in. If you're not sure you go look to see what is going on before you call the cops. If you find out a break in is going down then you should retreat.
@AC_metro
@AC_metro 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly bro. This thing about searching our home in the dark is glorified by tv. Good gravy, turn the lights on from around the corner. Anyway, on to another subject. Massad usually has decent info, but he is making a comparsion between some goober hunting out in the open and our home which is protected by the 4th Amendment. Besides, law enforcement do this on a regular basis - point a gun at a suspect... even if they don't immediately see a weapon. I guess they commit felony aggravated assault everytime they order a suspect to the ground?? No. Why should trained citizens be any different? If more people realize how quickly a suspect can produce a weapon and fire shots at you before you can even bring your unholstered weapon up (even more so drawing from a holster), they would get out of these liberal states that prosecute good citizens defending themselves.
@zososldier
@zososldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesReedy Oh I know. It is a no brainer that if I get a "funny feeling" in a parking lot, I'm not going to pull my gun to search around. In that case, yes, use a handheld light but probably have hand on the gun while moving away from the believed danger. If I'm in my back yard where I think something is trying to do something bad (burglar or large predator animal), yeah, I'm probably gonna have a gun at low ready. But I am also turning the back porch light on. If I am in my house in the middle of the night and think someone broke in, there isn't a jury in any state worth living in that is going to give you felony aggravated assault/brandishing charges. Family member or not.
@zososldier
@zososldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@AC_metro Yeah, pretty much every trainer or expert says that clearing a structure alone is suicide. Gather your family, shelter in a hard position if possible and call 911 while being ready to shoot a bad guy coming through the door. You aren't John Wick.
@sk8erguyjake
@sk8erguyjake 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one concerned about the amount of time it would take to switch lights, draw your weapon and reacquire the target? While I could see this in a ccw situation outside the home, I find it unlikely that Id you drew a weapon on someone in your home late at night that you’d get felony assault. Without having even fired the firearm.
@KB1229YN
@KB1229YN 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jake. I thought I was the only one thinking this way. As an officer myself I have come across this situation several times and the home owner was never charged for any crime. As a matter of fact most of the time they were applauded by police for the courage to refuse to be a victim
@kriskline7559
@kriskline7559 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. No way am I searching my own home with my gun down while using my handheld search light. I live with only my wife, so when a loud thud is heard in my home at night I’m definitely using the gun light with her behind me. We have castle laws and carry insurance for a reason. Anyone who’s tested their speed to first shot with a handheld vs weapon mounted light knows the advantage of the weapon mounted light. I’m not giving a burglar any additional advantages. Statistically home invaders are armed, and I’d rather face a jury than limit my ability to protect myself.
@kriskline7559
@kriskline7559 2 жыл бұрын
In addition, I’m searching with a rifle most of the time in my home, so the handheld is out of the question.
@sk8erguyjake
@sk8erguyjake 2 жыл бұрын
Generally I like his stuff but this video is just a little bizarre. I’m trying to be humble because I know he’s an expert and I’m not; but this really isn’t making sense
@russelder9743
@russelder9743 2 жыл бұрын
@@KB1229YN I live vey rural with my75 yo wife and dog...I need a free hand as I have to be able to grab the dog...there is no one else thats going to be in my house as my family lives very far away.....I totally agree outside the home
@napster1363
@napster1363 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your at home analogy. In florida we have castle doc. Anyone who is in my house I am not aware of is considered a threat and is treated so. If you dont know who is coming into your home that is your fault to begin with. poor communication. plus if your running around your house with your finger on the trigger you dont need to own a gun in the first place. The gun isnt going to just go off Mr Baldwin.
@effeojnedib7208
@effeojnedib7208 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. My thoughts on the weapon mounted light for my own personal use is: No. Because if I ever have to build a defense for myself and attorney in court, I want it to be the easiest to defend as possible. If I don't even have a weapon mounted light, only a separate hand held, then the perp (or county atty) can't use that against me, nor can I be accused of the act. The whole legal process is expensive and stressful enough, without having a modified firearm, special *"macho killer ammo" or other add-on that could make a judge or jury be convinced I'm anything more than the average citizen. * I use the same ammo law enforcement does, so as to avoid over penetration and harming innocent folks. Thanks for the eye opener on the crimes committed when pointing a firearm at another person.
@175dan
@175dan 2 жыл бұрын
Some clarification would be helpful. Where and why would you have your firearm out? Searching for some dropped lug nuts on the side of the road? No, don't use your weapon mounted light. The power goes out at Walmart? No, don't use your weapon mounted light. You hear a window break at your house? Yes, totally use your weapon mounted light.
@tonyl3762
@tonyl3762 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the situation. If everyone in your household is actually accounted for and it's clear that someone broke into your house, I don't see any problem with a blinding weapon mounted light for identification for home defense. I understand the caution but wouldn't make it an absolute.
@alrbredwall
@alrbredwall 2 жыл бұрын
Identification is fine. He is advising against using a light for searching.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
Aye, that kinda goes into the category of prior intel. If you simply hear a noise and don't know who or what is causing it, searching with a gun light might be a bad idea. However as you said, if you have your whole family accounted for and they've all vouched that they did not invite someone over without telling you, you know there's an entity in your house that isn't authorized to be there. Your next move might be different then. That being said, the possibility of a panic trigger pull is something to consider. There are many situations where you might catch someone who isn't supposed to be there, but you don't necessarily want/need to shoot them. Perhaps the home intruder is someone you know who is currently making a very stupid mistake but you'd prefer they didn't die for it. No matter how legally justified you were in shooting them, you'd probably feel awful about it for the rest of your life. It's just another complicated set of decisions you have to make in the moment. If I'm home alone I'm probably willing to give an identified intruder a moment to surrender, whereas if my family is there perhaps I'm more likely to just end the threat upon identification because I am NOT willing to risk the safety of my family for the sake of a burglar. Either way, perhaps Massad has a point that sweeping the house with a loaded gun while your nerves are at Def Con 1 should be treated as an absolute last resort.
@tonyl3762
@tonyl3762 2 жыл бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 I don't plan to go searching when my family is accounted for. That's dumb. I will post up and blind any intruder with a powerful WML. If they want to step into the light after my warnings, that's their fault and will get shot.
@jimihendrix1575
@jimihendrix1575 Жыл бұрын
I always felt having a light or laser mounted to your weapon was basically telling the 'bad-guy' exactly where you are as you search. You are saying, "I'm right here, behind this light!" "Just shoot at my light, you'll probably hit me!"
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
This is what i feel like with IR illuminators on NVGs
@Vibycko
@Vibycko Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
Don't have it on all the time?
@baddriversofthenorcalarea500
@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 Жыл бұрын
Except if you are searching a building, and you are invisible range, they already know where you are light or no light. You have the advantage by disorienting them with the light.
@katesimpson7721
@katesimpson7721 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck can it be illegal to hold your gun in your own home when laws specifically state you can open carry in your home.
@42crazyguy
@42crazyguy 6 ай бұрын
Asking the real questions.
@Rustypan471
@Rustypan471 5 ай бұрын
He’s just minimizing mistakes
@rodgerthat6738
@rodgerthat6738 4 ай бұрын
It’s the same as you being able to open carry outside (in some states) but you can still be charged for pulling out your gun. I thinks it’s dumb, but the key is if the courts determine you were not in danger in the moment you pull out your gun, then you have just made someone fear for their life (assault) even if it is at your home.
@Dirk_T_Sanch3z
@Dirk_T_Sanch3z Ай бұрын
Probably depends on the state. I’m sure some illegal would be moving in to your house if you shot him in California.
@jayhockley8841
@jayhockley8841 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had access to an FBI training book . It specified using a separately held flashlight , for searching , and to hold it up and away from your body , so you don't illuminate or mark yourself . I do remember lots of usefull information in that manual .
@leavemealone2006
@leavemealone2006 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Comparing the weapon light to the telescopic sight on a hunting rifle was really helpful for me. I'm going to adopt that mindset regarding weapon lights from now on.
@Mr_Snarky
@Mr_Snarky 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding advice. Thank you!
@supertom8552
@supertom8552 2 жыл бұрын
Usual brilliant lesson thank you sir !
@trapsquatch4937
@trapsquatch4937 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy... I literally came home 30 minutes ago to find my back door wide open. I made the family go back out to the truck and wait, while I went and searched my whole house with my sidearm and weapon light only to find my chocolate lab decided to come in the house. Very good video to watch today... Thank you guys for all that you do!
@jamespileggi6650
@jamespileggi6650 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such great information! I have decided to use a 20 ga. shotgun with a pistol grip and weapon light as my go to. I now know how to properly carry my shotgun and keep the search light in my opposite hand at arms length. This info is greatly appreciated!!
@johnduffy6546
@johnduffy6546 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the way you present your material. You've helped clarify many of my gun ignorance preconceptions. Thank you
@mikemarrs9946
@mikemarrs9946 2 жыл бұрын
If you hear noise in middle of night on your back porch and you point gun at the person, then find out it was someone ok to be there but you weren’t aware of, there won’t be charges as long as you disengage. I’m not an expert but was a cop for 26 years. Just can’t agree with you on this one, although I respect your opinion very much. I do agree with not using pistol mounted flash light for searching if you have another option.
@warrenroberts1912
@warrenroberts1912 2 жыл бұрын
One question though. Would searching with another flashlight then switching to your handgun be enough time in a self defense scenario?
@onlineconsumer4796
@onlineconsumer4796 2 жыл бұрын
I shot IDPA indoors where we could have a dark stages. We used separate flashlights from our firearms. There were many different techniques used. I used a small LED light (SK78) that I could hold in my left hand between my middle and fore fingers and press the button on the back of the flashlight with my thumb to use it. When I needed to engage the target, I would fully depress the light button so it would stay on, point my firearm at the target and while holding the flashlight pointed at the target, I would use my left hand to support the firearm. Hard to explain so I googled searched images and found "Randi Rogers on Shooting With A Light" showing what I use but my light is a bit smaller. If the target was close, I could shoot single handed but I found this much better than one handed shooting because it added support to the firearm. Make it part of your dry fire practice. I do not use any mounted lights on my firearms as switching would just complicate things. If you have a mounted light, consider how and when you will turn it on.
@johncourtleigh6092
@johncourtleigh6092 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same question. A cop I believe always carries with a round chambered ready to fire. If they didn't then there would be that second or two necessary to chamber the round aim and fire, potentially costing that cop their life.
@il9861
@il9861 2 жыл бұрын
Flashlight in left hand. Wrist to wrist. Left hand underneath. Boom gun and light problem solved.
@johncourtleigh6092
@johncourtleigh6092 2 жыл бұрын
@@il9861 BOOM ????? LOL
@il9861
@il9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncourtleigh6092 what….
@RprtBak
@RprtBak 2 жыл бұрын
This is more legal advice but when it comes to tactics... Searching with a WML isn't the best option simply because if someone is going to shoot at you they will shoot at the light. Sure, it's more difficult to see but you can still easily get hit. It's far better to keep a light off hand UP AND AWAY from you for searching. That way if someone does shoot at the light, it's away from your body and head.
@noelbrown6771
@noelbrown6771 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Should be common sense.
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 жыл бұрын
So how's that scenario changing holding a seperate flashlight?
@RprtBak
@RprtBak 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpetersen5662 As I said, you're supposed to hold the off hand light up and away from you while searching. That way if someone does shoot at the light, it's at least less likely to hit your chest and head. If you're holding it right next to your head, that's dumb and will get you domed. If you're holding it right next to your weapon, that will get you shot in the chest and head. So, once again, if you are searching... You should use a non-weapon mounted light to search with that is up and away from your body. As, once again, if someone were to shoot at the light, it's less likely they will hit your head and chest. Obviously you can still get shot in the head, chest, arm, etc. It is just less likely and there is basically no reason not to do it. Also tactically speaking, if you're already going to be searching, you should be doing this anyway as it is more tactically sound and there is LITERALLY 0 reason to do so otherwise unless you're in some sort of WROL scenario.
@DuaneThomas1963
@DuaneThomas1963 2 жыл бұрын
Mas, I'm sure you remember Otto Orive, who took several of your courses back in the day. Otto was one of the firearms instructors for the Kent, Washington police department. The Kent PD range, on which I have shot, is a wonderful facility, with a control booth that, among other things, allows shutting off/turning on lights in each individual area of its huge main bay, to simulate various lighting conditions, all the way down to turning off all the lights, not only on the range but in the booth, as well, to create total darkness. So, they set up a situation where officers had to clear a "house" that was created by hanging tarps from the ceiling to form walls and rooms. Officers had Sim guns, so did "criminals" who were being played by other officers, also armed with Sim guns. The goal was for officers to search the darkened house, and find the bad guys, ideally without being shot themselves. It is a common piece of advice when searching with a light-mounted gun, "Use the light to search, then turn off the light when you move so they can't track your movement." Otto commented, "We saw the same thing, over and over again. An officer would be searching, using the light, looking for the bad guys. When they had the light on to search, people would hide. The INSTANT they turned off the light, EVERY TIME, people would pop out and shoot at where the light was. As far as I'm concerned, the primary function of a weapon-mounted light, inside an unfamiliar structure, would be for me to find a light switch so I can turn on the fucking overhead lights. Why on earth you'd want to be searching in darkness, much less moving in darkness, when you could be doing it with good visibility in full light is beyond me."
@meatgoat4084
@meatgoat4084 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is the best gun safety video I have ever seen.
@keggerous
@keggerous 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to explain this to some tacticool people and was simply laughed at. Sadly, a LOT of people do not take this issue seriously.
@peteto1
@peteto1 Жыл бұрын
Until they get arrested someday in a self-defense situation and realize that a local, "woke" jury might put them away in a real prison for years....
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is it a little too easy to get charged with aggravated assault in your own damn house? I get Massad is trying to promote safety and to protect us from making potentially deadly mistakes but it sort of seems half of this video is designed to appease zealous District Attorney's who charge people whose only intent was to defend themselves.
@SK-me9by
@SK-me9by 2 жыл бұрын
Just another way to empower the criminal and punish the law abiding armed citizen. Sorry my home my rules (when it comes to myself or my love ones safety). It is the responsibility of the visitor (or the party that invited them) to properly notify the home owner/renter before such a incident takes place.
@aphilipdent
@aphilipdent 2 жыл бұрын
They favor criminals over law abiding citizens. Those cases put fear of legal retaliation in people thinking about self defense in the hope they'll forgo buying a defense tool.
@bjones5791
@bjones5791 2 жыл бұрын
@@aphilipdent Right! Very well put. The criminal does not give one shit about any of this stuff. But the armed citizen is going to have a double mind and end up dead. Pretty simple equation.🤷🏻‍♂️
@SK-me9by
@SK-me9by 2 жыл бұрын
@@aphilipdent Yes they do and Fuds like this guy from Wilson Combat just fall in line.
@propdoctor21564
@propdoctor21564 2 жыл бұрын
I also feel it's ridiculous to get charged that easily
@TreeBarkSide
@TreeBarkSide 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is that YOU know every inch of your house. The intruder does not. This gives you a great advantage in the dark as you can navigate your way around while the intruder is constantly scanning the area to figure out what he is looking at. When you turn on that light, not only can that light illuminate the room, allowing the intruder to see the area just as well as you can, but it also gives your position away by telling him where you're coming from.
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta watch out for already illuminated areas such as where night lights are positioned around the house. Maybe take them out in the event if you have the wherewithal?
@austinpowers1999
@austinpowers1999 2 жыл бұрын
What if the intruder sold you the house?
@SavageGunFighter21
@SavageGunFighter21 2 жыл бұрын
So you don't PID?
@austinpowers1999
@austinpowers1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@SavageGunFighter21 do you DIP?
@alangross2277
@alangross2277 Жыл бұрын
Great video and very thought provoking! Thanks for what you do. Everybody that shoots needs to be watching these videos, even if it's just to keep the safety reminders, fresh in our minds!
@dougsholly9323
@dougsholly9323 2 жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense. However, I live alone. No one has a key to my home. If someone is in my home, there is a 100% chance that they are there uninvited. I am skipping the secondary light.
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