Why you shouldn't search with a weapon-mounted light on a handgun - Massad Ayoob Critical Mas EP40

[@Gun_Talk]

As Clint Smith said, "Use your flashlight to get to a light switch. Never fight in the dark."

[@towtruckaj]

Power might be out, Always want to account for worst case scenario.

[@Gun_Talk]

@towtruckAJ Power out during a zombie apocalypse with marauding bandits looking to break into your shit. Let's be honest here. Chances of your house getting broken into during a short term power outtage in a normal functioning society is pretty close to zero. Chances of someone coordinating an attack on your house where they cut the power lines in order to break in are also pretty damn slim because you're probably not that important. A crackhead looking for a quick buck to steal will not go through all that hassle. But if they did cut the power to break in, I'd say you have every right to just point your guns at them.

[@towtruckaj]

@@Gun_Talk sure but what isn’t uncommon is for light switches to be in inconvenient spots, certain rooms to have to little to no light depending on how finished your house is, on top of that a lot of crucial electric components and electrical shut offs are outside, some are easy to tamper with others fortunately aren’t as easy, point being a lot of situations call for low light encounters and you should at least prepare for that.

[@Gun_Talk]

@towtruckAJ Yeah, I get that. Anything could happen, and situations will vary. Murphys law is a thing, after all.

[@bwest8372]

So you can get shot when you ain't clears the rest of the room you just Wana get to that light

[@DE-ef3xd]

As a carrier of 20 years, we get so used to having a gun….. it is almost second nature. Sometimes we tend to forget just how much power and responsibility we have. I love the reality checks I experience when I watch these videos. It’s like a slap to the back of the head, telling you, hey! Heads up dude! Think about what you are doing or about to do. Thank you for the constant education.

[@chrisriker6421]

How Right you are! Too many fast changing laws and as LEO's we find ourselves viewed as the criminal instead of the defender by those we've dedicated our lives to protect and serve!!!

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@chrisriker6421 If less of you fuckers did sus shit you wouldn't have such a bad rap

[@thebonesaw..4634]

I have been riding motorcycles for well over 45 years. About 20 years ago, I moved to Texas and needed to get the "M" on my license. I didn't HAVE to take a motorcycle safety course, but doing so would expedite the process and would save me money on my insurance... At the time, I had been riding for well over 25 years; there was "nothing" any of these trainers were about to tell me that I didn't already know (especially from a BASIC riders course). I spent half the class thinking, _"My god, you mean I've been doing that wrong for 25 years?"_ CONTINUING Education is the cornerstone of anything that can potentially risk our lives or the lives of others. Processes change due to new technology or new data, LAWS change... or, like me, those who are already doing it, began doing so during a time where there was limited education and we basically have trained ourselves and we only THINK we know. Anyone who carries - or even owns - a deadly weapon, should always be seeking the opportunity for continuing education that will keep them, their family, and the public as safe as possible.

[@joshuadelawrencephotograhy7619]

Do you think that's why the right to bare arms was placed as the second amendment?

[@christopherwg4236]

That's why it's really good to rehearse good training, too many times I found myself a little too overconfident after learning I was doing it wrong.

[@slimmestjim7517]

At 24 years old and recently got into owning firearms, I swear every one of your videos make me realize how many things I didn't think of. I now keep a flashlight next to my home defense pistol, which already has a WML. Thanks for the content!!

[@halcyonzenith4411]

Nice to see a tactical expert who actually is one and gives practical advice for people in real life, as opposed to weird ways of holding an AR and how to shoot more targets faster, without regard for any of the real world implications that exist for producing a firearm anywhere outside of a shooting range.

[@douglasjarnagan3835]

You can flag innocent people by doing any search, even if you don't have a mounted light. This video really just gets across the legal risks one assumes when they grab their weapon.

[@waynehearst317]

I am nearly 50 years old and a gun nut. Grew up competition shooting, hunting and have probably never gone more than a few weeks without interacting with a firearm and yet....you just taught me a few things. Thank you so much, Massad. You are a true legend and pillar in the firearms community.

[@lornenoland8098]

Excellent advice, as always! I would like to add: if your WML has a strobe feature, DON’T use it. Yes, it can ‘disorient’ the subject. It can also disorient you, in the sense that any movement they make will appear herky-jerky, making it difficult to accurately identify what if anything is in their hands or whether their actions are threatening or surrendering. A strobe should only be used if there is a secondary solid beam of light on he subject, in which case you can clearly see them but they see strobe when looking at you.

[@faryldaryl3975]

I shined a 900 lumen strobe right into my eyes in front of a mirror, and rather than disorienting me the only pause it gave was to think "Huh. Look at that." For that matter, inside my lil' abode I've found that anything over 300 lumens has so much bounce-back that it impairs my sight probably just as much as anyone I'd be shining it on. If I had to search wide open outdoor areas I spoze I'd want one a them light cannons.

[@jackmclane1826]

I'd use it if you are in a local advantage. If you know the place and the perp does not. Like home invasions. Disorientation favors the prepared. It will then hurt the unprepared invader much more than you.

[@jackmclane1826]

​@@faryldaryl3975 I use an 1800lm flashlight. The bright flash itself ruins all your dark vision for minutes. And the strobe light dazzles me, even if I shine it down a hallway. Without having it shine directly onto me.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@faryldaryl3975 Try it in the dark. Way more effective once your eyes have adjusteed

[@kabloosh699]

I have really yet to figure out a practical use for the strobe function on these lights. I wish they would stop adding it. It's all about positive identification so I know I am shooting at the right thing.

[@prezmil4282]

If it gets to the point of me actively searching with my gun I’m already positive it’s not just a “guest” that I forgot I invited over.

[@HotBoii91]

What if it’s ur drunk cousin lol

[@prezmil4282]

@@HotBoii91 That broke into my home in the middle of the night?

[@HotBoii91]

@@prezmil4282 or ur drunk son visiting home from college? Everybody’s family situation is different is the point I’m making.

[@prezmil4282]

@@HotBoii91 I don’t have a drunk son and yes, that’s why I only spoke for myself.

[@HotBoii91]

@@prezmil4282 drunk mom?

[@covid1655]

I love how it’s felony agg assault but cops draw their weapons for no reason every day and face no charges

[@Haramyst]

ALWAYS learn something priceless and new to me every time i watch Mas. Please keep it coming. They'res no telling how many lives your lectures have saved.

[@gowilsoncombat]

More to come!

[@mr.solitude3352]

5 decades ago, and at a major city's police department's basic training class, recruits were taught to hold the flashlight with the nonshooting hand and arm extended. The instructor said, "why give the perp a signal where your torso is by holding a flashlight close to or attached to your firearm?" Why they don''t continue to teach that today beats me.

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

.... Firstly, If my weapon light is being pointed in your face .... my torso isn't facing you - my side is (not all of us use the archaic non-tactical, straight forward shooting stance). Secondly, if my 70,000+ candela weapon light is pointed at you .... you're blind and you won't be aiming at anything. ~

[@Precisionstriker]

I really like that tactic it’s pretty cool how many different ways things are improved upon

[@9unslin9er]

I still train that way and refuse to mount a light for that reason. I can manipulate my muzzle and light in different directions. I can have my gun low ready, and my light 180 degrees.

[@9unslin9er]

@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS If your weapon light is on, I know where you are.

[@INuniform]

They do continue to teach that technique in my state, among others

[@eddieweigel9490]

Thank you Mr. Ayoob once again you educated me on something I didn’t know anything about. I have a Glock 23 with a weapon light my dad was a huge fan of yours he’s no longer with us but years and years ago he always said Massad gives valuable info on guns and gun laws again thank you for the education sir

[@TheRealEMURSE]

G23g4 👑

[@normanmccollum6082]

I just realized that his last name backwards is 'booya,' and that's really cool.

[@TheRealEMURSE]

@@normanmccollum6082 one of my favorite random sayings 😆

[@warrenpuckett4203]

It can be used as a point of aim. There is a 90% probability the shooter is right handed. One handed and with the light raised and off to the right is better. That is when a left handed shooter has a momentary advantage. Do not limit your range of vision. Rightys only do the opposite. But if you are not the one wearing the uniform, you are screwed.

[@edjacala3025]

Excellent point Mass on use of flashlight instead of gun light to search on suspicious target. Thank you.

[@seconnsportsman2502]

Close to 35 years of carrying in a blue state and I continue to learn new things from Mas. Thank you for this segment and all you do for the shooting community.

[@squirrel_82]

I'm really glad videos like this are being made. So many people carrying these days with little knowledge or experience and it's frightening.

[@hansolo755]

I learned so much from this video. Mas explains everything he speaks about so crystal clear that it’s a pleasure to listen to him and learn from him. Keep the videos coming!

[@peteto1]

Mas is the G.O.A.T. of concealed carry, legal CYA. His decades of police work and testifying as an expert at trials all over the country make him an indispensable treasure for gun owners/carriers everywhere.

[@heloanp81]

Taking the time to search with a secondary light source and then dropping it to maneuver your firearm takes time. It's the same principal as carrying a loaded firearm. Some say you shouldn't carry with a round in the chamber for safety because it doesn't take long to charge the weapon. Others say the act of putting a round in the chamber takes precious time that could result in you losing your life or not. Seconds matter in a fight for your life. Milliseconds matter. The time it takes for you to put a round in the chamber could cost you your life the same as dropping your secondary light source to engage the target will. My opinion is that the amount of training you've had should dictate whether you use your weapon's light source or your secondary. Also, the scenario should as well. If my dogs are barking at something in the backyard, I'm not going to go out guns a blazing. If someone kicked open my front door, I can assume they're not trying to sell me girl scout cookies.

[@100vg]

I don't have a light mounted on my pistol, but there are so many things we may do because we don't know the letter of the law. Always such wise and considered advice, Mas. Thanks

[@jasonday5143]

Huge props for the thorough explanation. Gun safety and respect needs to be taught and received more and this was a fantastic example of explaining thoroughly what should and should not be done. Thank you.

[@titan_o7]

These are all fantastic points and part of the reason I always carry a small handheld light in my pocket as well as a weapon mounted light on my handgun. Fenix PD25R for the pocket light and a Surefire X300 for my pistol. I mainly carry both as a contingency for the other but also carry a handheld light because I need it more often than not. And obviously pulling out your handgun to find a tool you dropped in the engine compartment of a truck with a bunch of people all around in the shop is a no-go. I cannot praise enough the benefits of having a pocket light. That, plus a good folding blade and your handgun is essential.

[@Thenikksmeister]

I always suggest having a good pocket light to everyone. I use it almost on the daily

[@BlueRidgeCritter]

Thank you guys so much for bringing this one up. This has bothered me for a very long time. I have seen so many videos of, and have personally witnessed, security guards, cops (*especially* cops) etc. flag people with loaded guns because they were using their WML flashlights to simply search for something or for illumination, instead of using a separate light. I know it’s more convenient, but there’s a fine line between convenient and lazy/dangerous. I understand the argument for needing to ID or blind the target in an actual situation, but that is one of the few times where flagging is understood, and possibly justified. Personally, I think it’s laziness more than anything. This is why I don’t have WML‘s personally. I train with tac lights the old fashioned way. I understand there are situations where they are beneficial, as it keeps the gun in the flashlight together and offers one-handed use. I get that. But overall, I say if you’re going to use one, carry a separate one.

[@josel2408]

First off, if you're in a situation where you lawfully deemed it necessary to draw your firearm, then we have established based on various factors that whatever you are searching for is a threat and is lawful to have them at gun point. If you only draw your firearm when lawfully allowed then you will always have good reason to assume the subject located is a threat and only after determining he is not a threat, do you stop flagging the person. Let's use common sense, obviously if you hear a noise in your front lawn you should not flag anyone, but that's because that situation does not require a firearm to be drawn!! If you have a lawful reason to believe there is a home intruder then treat as a threat until proven not a threat.

[@onlineconsumer4796]

Thanks for another great video. This is the best channel for gun related content. I shot IDPA indoors where we could have a dark stages. We used separate flashlights from our firearms. There were many different techniques used. I used a small LED light (SK78) that I could hold in my left hand between my middle and fore fingers and press the button on the back of the flashlight with my thumb to use it. When I needed to engage the target, I would fully depress the light button so it would stay on, point my firearm at the target and while holding the flashlight pointed at the target, I would use my left hand to support the firearm. Hard to explain so I googled searched images and found "Randi Rogers on Shooting With A Light" showing what I use but my light is a bit smaller. If the target was close, I could shoot single handed but I found this much better than one handed shooting because it added support to the firearm. Make it part of your dry fire practice. I do not use any mounted lights on my firearms as switching would just complicate things. If you have a mounted light, consider how and when you will turn it on.

[@muzzlevelocity4397]

Thanks for a great video. Having never had to try to conduct a search with a gun and having no lights mounted on my firearms, I confess to being ignorant about this issue and its importance. Once again, thanks to Massad Ayoob, I am ignorant no more.

[@anthonybarillari8844]

same here buddy i buying hand held flashlight

[@elsuperpollo2273]

I'm actually humbled ayoob brought this up and I'm so glad when I worked as a armed security guard and in executive protection I never used a weapons mounted light and I always used a separate flashlight/torch.

[@Cerakote123]

Thats because you were a rent-a-cop 😂

[@elsuperpollo2273]

And at least I got away with more things, go ahead and laugh life is too short. Till then go f**k yourself

[@alking6633]

I love this man's soothing voice.❤❤

[@j-dub8399]

This is a great lesson. I took tactical pistol courses for two years and my instructor did not prefer weapon mounted lights and always taught the use of momentary handheld flashlights.

[@peterreily1490]

Did your instructor teach you about both hands on the handgun? I’m actually asking a question I’d love to hear the answer of.

[@j-dub8399]

@@peterreily1490 it’s a great question! Jokingly, it’s called a “handgun” and not a “handsgun”. But in all seriousness, your support hand will generally (a) rest under your strong arm’s wrist (b) rest above your strong arm’s elbow pit or (c) be used tactically away from the body to not give away your specific location. We also trained with various ambush tactics, on moving targets, and on the move but that’s why I said “generally”. I am by no means qualified to teach on this. My instructor was a former special ops sniper and the training was pretty hardcore. Often too hardcore for me.

[@lowprofile2412]

@@j-dub8399 great advice, even “if not qualified “

[@MachoJoey1]

The saying is a WML doesnt replace a handheld light.

[@Snookynibbles]

@@peterreily1490 ,there are multiple tactical flashlight holding techniques being taught. One if the more popular is the (Michael) Harries technique. None of the techniques afford a strong off-hand grip; employing a non gun-mounted tactical flashlight involves a bit of a compromise, one that still makes sense.

[@vernonsteinkamp1088]

Thank you, I was unaware of the consequences you brought up in this segment. I sent this to my son as well.

[@deno2566]

I look forward to every Mas video I can get. Thanks Mas and thanks Wilson Combat!

[@agvulpine]

If I'm searching in the dark with a flashlight for a secretly invited guest, they're getting a gun pointed at them until I'm informed of that invitation.

[@machbaby]

I recently bought a flashlight/laser for my carry pistol. I'm glad I caught this video. Thanks.

[@reesex3882]

Thanks Massad. I learned a couple of new things, tonight. I’ve entertained the idea of buying a light for my home defense gun. I just have to do my research on finding the appropriate light that’s suitable for my needs.

[@boblynch7348]

Thank you Massad. As always your videos are excellent.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad you like them!

[@tobylopez445]

Totally agree with your frame of thought on the use of lights. great video, Sir.

[@RedDragonProtection]

Great point, that's actually how I was trained as a new cop on fto. I'm happy to hear that.

[@everydayamputee]

Bravo! Can y'all list all the states that make showing a firearm "felony aggravated assault" so we not visit there or spend money with vendors in those states?

[@JWH-01]

Thank you for another great video. You make some great legal and safety points. In addition to your points, I don't want to depend on a light (weapon mounted or not) unless absolutely necessary. I don't want the light making me a target.

[@goaway3717]

Excellent logic. Thanks for the information. I've used one for years but mainly for the laser sight and always in combination with my regular flashlight. I also live alone with no one other than me having legal access to the home so my circumstances are a bit different at this stage of my life, but I'd still never search with only the light on the weapon.

[@flyinlow6692]

So you search with a hand held light with gun pointed downward & you find the intruder with his gun drawn, presented & sights on you. By the time you drop your light and present he probably will fire already. Why are the good always at a legal disadvantage?

[@BeetleBuns]

because the good are stupid.

[@Da_Benski]

Well an intruder with a gun out will probably see you with your flashlight before you see them. I'd think PROPER handheld tactical light should inflict significantly more night blindness to an intruder than a WML to balance the delay factor.

[@MadMagyar13]

I’m no tactical expert, but why would you walk around the house with the flashlight on, instead of just using a momentary illumination? Walking around with the flashlight on is a good way to let everyone know where you are and where you’re going

[@BeetleBuns]

@@MadMagyar13 my dude, you are making logical points, tactifags don't use logic

[@stephenrogers5593]

@@MadMagyar13 yea. Black Scout Survival said basically what you said on his channel a while ago. A light on a gun isn’t meant for keeping on perpetually and looking around in almost every case. Most notably because it gives your position away.

[@John-se5vc]

Thank you, sir, for your priceless advice. My introduction to you was your book "In the Gravest Extreme". I thank God that several decades have passed since I read that book without any mishaps whatsoever. That book was a kick in my butt, and I am glad you did!

[@omarsalazar723]

Massed, attorney here. Great video and great advice. You may have saved a couple lives with this one.

[@blkstang4830]

A weapon mounted light is a tool. Tools can be used for an advantage if used properly. If used improperly then it could be a disadvantage. Point is get training to know how to take advantage of the light in different situations.

[@squidwardo7074]

Yep! Having more tools in the toolbox is always better

[@jimmartini77]

I'm always concerned with counter detection. My light gives the bad guy a fix on my location, often before I see him.

[@RonSpilker]

They probably already know you're there.

[@TomJakobW]

@@RonSpilkerthey know you’re *there* but they don’t know *where* ! 😅

[@marshonmellows]

Jim is running around with nods in his house

[@JoshMarine81-ze8jy]

@@marshonmellowshahaha

[@QuietGuitaristfan]

The way you casually and straight-faced said "booger hooker" and "bang switch" in the same sentence had me dying for a minute.

[@charlesg5085]

This guy is stone cold. He attacks men's rears with no care.

[@johnduffy6546]

I really appreciate the way you present your material. You've helped clarify many of my gun ignorance preconceptions. Thank you

[@Rbuffdogs]

I could listen to this gentleman for hours. Commons sense, "Dad Humor" , straight talk, decades of experience.

[@townhall05446]

Your info on these videos and in Gravest Extreme is invaluable. One of the most memorable for me - and I see some people observing this in home defense situations where an intruder was shot - is that they fired the weapon to STOP the intruder. NOT to kill them. Just saying you meant to kill them puts you in hot water. Word choice means everything and I thank you for that gem.

[@mrstepcase81]

This is if im looking for my keys? Bro, if I'm searching with my gun, then I need my gun, don't you think? No one's searching Walmart with a gun if the lights go out.

[@birdsoup777]

Life saving and safety wisdom. Thank you.

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

.... One key statement by Massad that many people overlooked, with regards to being charged with felony aggravated assault for pointing your weapon at someone who [turns out to be] a known person of no threat in a home/self defense scenario was .... "WITHOUT LEGAL JUSTIFICATION". Any well-versed attorney (which I am not by any means implying that Massad is not), knows that the establishment of a reasonable fear of the immediate application of force can be applied to not only the suspected intruder who had the weapon pointed at them, but also the homeowner; provided that the weapon was only pointed at the suspected intruder, until identification was established. This is due to the fact that prior to the identification of the unknown individual, the homeowner is obviously unaware of who is in their home and is therefore presented with a clear and present threat of danger, serious bodily injury and/or death and as such, reasonably believes that the immediate use of force would be necessary to defend against said threat - hence, the grounds for "legal justification" are present in such a scenario, irrespective of whether or not a mounted weapon light was used. ~

[@scubasleeve3497]

Thank you for saying what I also said in a much better way. I don't like the "scare tactic" used here and ignoring all the points you just made.

[@joshc44]

Awesome video, never even thought about many of these points

[@williamjonesiiimd907]

Another highly informative video, teaching me things that I had not considered. Thank you!

[@d.b.1176]

I doubt anyone would be charged if you point a gun at someone you don’t know in your own house in the middle of the night.

[@Jay-kf3od]

You won't. And if it was your brother. It's not like he's filing charges. Just ultra Fudds saying fuddy shit. Love telling ppl to not use things for their intended use. I swear they will tell me next to not use my pocket knife to cut open boxes because it will dull the blade.

[@xenosayain1506]

The states with brandishing laws might as sad as it is.

[@d.b.1176]

@@xenosayain1506 😂

[@jacoballen8616]

@@xenosayain1506 Got any examples of it happening?

[@scooter5940]

I think he’s more speaking to carry guns, and/or outside the home but he did also mention that someone may have invited someone to your home that you were not aware of. For what it’s worth, I have a WML on my home defense gun, but not on my carry pistols. I just think there is more utility, and much less downside, of a light in home defense application.

[@mikeyakus2939]

Always educational. Thanks for a brilliant safety lesson.

[@meatgoat4084]

I believe this is the best gun safety video I have ever seen.

[@rockslide4802]

Very timely discussion as I am just about to purchase my first gun mounted light. So, point taken, thank you.

[@roykiefer7713]

Excellent video, thank you. I’ve always used a hand held (and rarely illuminated) high-intensity flashlight. Why: 1. I know my home’s “territory,” but the felon doesn’t; I don’t want to provide any illumination than might help the criminal. Therefore, I’ll activate the light only for a second . . . IF I need to make an identification. 2. I don’t want to reveal my position or my movements. 3. I don’t want to provide the felon with a target; most firing stances place the weapon-mounted light very near your center-line.

[@hummingbird_saltalamakia]

strobe effect would disorient

[@roykiefer7713]

@@hummingbird_saltalamakia May be disorienting to both the felon and the lawful defender. I’m generally not in favor of fashionable adjuncts; rather, I believe in mastering and executing the long-acknowledged fundamentals with precision and skill.

[@Mr_Snarky]

Outstanding advice. Thank you!

[@flashpointbravo]

I used to be a cop in a huge city. I’ve had to do building searches many many times, both with and without weapon mounted lights. No weapon mounted light really really sucks. Maybe as a cop I was allowed to temporarily point a loaded gun at some innocent where a regular citizen wouldn’t, I don’t know. But having to open doors and work a radio and move things with my support hand while my primary hand held whatever weapon bearing light was really handy. Thinking of doing everything other than holding my weapon with my support hand makes me thing that hand would be overwhelmed with tasks.

[@aaroncheney9966]

I am also a cop. I definitely had to take this in context. I use my WML every search. If I didn’t it would be task saturation to the point of being dangerous. And the quality of any gunfire I send down range would be hurt . His advice isn’t for professionals tho this is good advice for a home owner.

[@BPenton]

@@aaroncheney9966 I disagree. As a 27 year veteran cop, and a 22 year veteran firearms instructor, I can tell you that his advice is DEFINITELY for Law Enforcement and civilians alike. You shouldn't be pointing your weapon at everything you look at while searching. Have your weapon in your dominant hand in position Sul, and have your handheld flashlight in your support hand. It takes no time to bring the weapon up to engage or cover a threat when you identify one. Remember that LEO's are held to a much higher standard with regard to accidental shootings than civilians are. We never teach to search with a WML. It's just not how we do it. Stay safe Brother!

[@gordenrussell7266]

For 12 years I showed movies in a Grindhouse and between showings I had to pick up cold cups and butter tubs while the credits were rolling so that I could get upstairs to thread the projector and then run down to tear tickets. So to stuff the trash bag I carried a penlight made of plastic so that I could hold it in my teeth while reaching under seats for all of those empty candy boxes.

[@herbderbler1585]

​@@BPenton I disagree with your statement that LEOs are held to a higher standard. That's what is supposed to happen, but reality rarely reflects that anymore. A police officer gets innocence until proven guilty, as it should be. They have an entire police force and government giving them the benefit of the doubt. To be fair, this idiotic "defund the police" movement often puts an unnecessary target on their back in the public eye, so I can definitely sympathize with that. However that same public scrutiny can destroy the life of a private citizen just as easily due to mindless anti-gun rhetoric. A citizen who shoots a mugger or housebreaker gets one expensive lawyer on their side, that's it. Everyone else tends to assume the worst of their actions until proven otherwise beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially these days when criminals tend to have more rights in the court system than law abiding citizens.

[@BPenton]

@@herbderbler1585 respectfully, put on a badge and God forbid have an incident where you use deadly force. I can personally attest that was the worst 19 months of my life. I can without any hesitation tell you that LEO’s are held to a higher standard than civilians because of their training. We live in glass houses, but I’m not complaining, just stating a fact. I know of several cases in my career where civilians have used deadly force and the case was simply sent to the grand jury for a no bill. The investigation following a use of deadly force incident in law enforcement, is far more complex. The legal term you were eluding to is qualified immunity. That is under attack at every angle. I know that it can be an unwelcome event in a civilians life, but it’s not the same.

[@leavemealone2006]

Thank you sir! Comparing the weapon light to the telescopic sight on a hunting rifle was really helpful for me. I'm going to adopt that mindset regarding weapon lights from now on.

[@thesarge4457]

Very good presentation, and an eye opener. Thank You Sir.

[@timothyvotaw7517]

More good, practical wisdom from Mas. It's so easy to make an unintended "mistake" in these situations, particularly with the twisted legal systems in so many jurisdictions, that now favor a perp over their intended victims. Train, practice, think, prepare.

[@designated_hitter_EGA]

Pretty obvious why. Don't need any wisdom, just a functioning brain in the cranium.

[@nathanhardy1353]

While I understand not wanting to point you gun at someone, if your clearing a room with a weapon your gun should be oriented with your eyes. A weapon light just gives you clarity of what your pointing at. The question most of us should be asking is why are we clearing rooms and if absolutely necessary how can we mitigate risk like running into people who are innocent.

[@175dan]

Some clarification would be helpful. Where and why would you have your firearm out? Searching for some dropped lug nuts on the side of the road? No, don't use your weapon mounted light. The power goes out at Walmart? No, don't use your weapon mounted light. You hear a window break at your house? Yes, totally use your weapon mounted light.

[@MixBetterNowTV]

Exactly why I don’t have a WML on my CCW. Thx as always, Mas!

[@DeadMeat991]

Thank you Mr. Ayoob. You have provided wisdom that other proffessionals I know never even mention.

[@michaelwashe7614]

I disagree. Most criminals are not going to assume a mounted weapon light. Now if it turns into a gunfight after the fact, I'm turning the light off. but until then I'm pointing my gun exactly where I'm looking and if they are in my house, god help them.

[@1977Yakko]

Is it just me or is it a little too easy to get charged with aggravated assault in your own damn house? I get Massad is trying to promote safety and to protect us from making potentially deadly mistakes but it sort of seems half of this video is designed to appease zealous District Attorney's who charge people whose only intent was to defend themselves.

[@SK-me9by]

Just another way to empower the criminal and punish the law abiding armed citizen. Sorry my home my rules (when it comes to myself or my love ones safety). It is the responsibility of the visitor (or the party that invited them) to properly notify the home owner/renter before such a incident takes place.

[@aphilipdent]

They favor criminals over law abiding citizens. Those cases put fear of legal retaliation in people thinking about self defense in the hope they'll forgo buying a defense tool.

[@bjones5791]

@@aphilipdent Right! Very well put. The criminal does not give one shit about any of this stuff. But the armed citizen is going to have a double mind and end up dead. Pretty simple equation.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@SK-me9by]

@@aphilipdent Yes they do and Fuds like this guy from Wilson Combat just fall in line.

[@propdoctor21564]

I also feel it's ridiculous to get charged that easily

[@supertom8552]

Usual brilliant lesson thank you sir !

[@DanSantosAuthor]

This is one of the most useful videos I have ever watched. Thanks.

[@tommiller2303]

I have gotten more usefull information from Massad than another other source that I've encountered in all of my 65 years of gun ownership. Thank you Massad! But I do have a few personal views that I would like to offer. My bedroom protection is an M1 Carbine mounted high on the wall of my closet so that my grandkids cannot get to it. It is loaded with the bolt open and safety on. All of my downstairs doors are alarmed and I have a dog that will let me know of a prowler before the alarms. The carbine has a bright light with a green laser spot and a squeeze switch on the front stock. If someone should make it to my bedroom, I will have the carbine pointed towards that door and it will be held at my side and slightly away from my body, since the bad guy will probably take a shot at the light. I prefer a rifle so that anyone would be less likely to knock it out of my hands, and if it jams I can more readily use the carbine as a club. BTW if a bad guy makes it that far, a lawsuit will be the least of my concerns! Also, I will not leave my bedroom until I see multiple flashing red lights outside the house. Best Regards, Tom

[@davidtalley6858]

This man is teaching me things our range instructors at the academy NEVER did! Ayoob is a BEAST!

[@themonkster333]

Listen to this guy and wake up in heaven.

[@ThePoorBoy]

Honestly, if you want to really do it right as a 2A person, I don't think there's a better resource out there than this channel. There are many great channels now, but between Mas, Bill, and Ken, you're getting a combined total of nearly two centuries of wisdom from these guys. We are so lucky...

[@phil5569]

Also, if you use a flashlight, in the event of tracking an armed suspect, hold the flashlight laterally at arms length away from your body as you search. That way given that your light makes your position obvious, if they take a shot at you, they might miss, as apposed to holding the light (or a weapon light) right in front of you, you give them a center-mass target.

[@michaelloomisiii3475]

Same way I was trained. Also, we were instructed to have a lanyard long enough to make that stretch that you mentioned in your post. When you need to use that hand to manipulate door handles etc, you can simply let go of the light instead of stowing it.

[@HDSME]

Yes!!!! The fbi didn't teach that maybe now they learned never used a fun mounted light!

[@elmateo77]

@@HDSME A fun mounted light? Is that like a multicolored disco ball that goes on the end of your gun and plays music?

[@LanternOfLiberty]

@@elmateo77 for me, I don't really know the answer to that question. However, in a non-life-threatening situation, that would be f****** awesome! 😂😂😂

[@SkoolyRatt]

Your 100% right Phil

[@War4theWest]

Great vid, more people need to get this. I figured it out by doing some simple drills at home at night - a real wake up call. I realized several things. First, "night sights' are useless without a light cuz sights don't illuminate things. Then I realized that I was pointing a loaded gun at everything I was looking at and thought it through. I could unintentionally escalate a conflict due to someone's reaction to me pointing a gun at them.

[@jamespileggi6650]

Thank you for such great information! I have decided to use a 20 ga. shotgun with a pistol grip and weapon light as my go to. I now know how to properly carry my shotgun and keep the search light in my opposite hand at arms length. This info is greatly appreciated!!

[@LKaramazov]

That part about being charged for almost taking your gun out of its holster is CRAZY!

[@foxhoundusmc]

While that's possible, it's not probable, and I think that's a context this specific video is sorely lacking. You don't have to wait until you are actively being murdered, to prevent your murder. No sane judge/jury on Earth would actually convict you of anything simply for maneuvering your defensive weapon in such a way as to make it ready for use under circumstances you can articulate justify it. Such a conviction would literally upend our entire right to self-defense (look to the Rittenhouse case for examples of how absurd a case would need to be made to even attempt that, as well as the outcome).

[@MrGahndiii]

Depends if it was to intimidate. It's hard to know. If so though I have no sympathy. Maybe I heard the story wrong though...

[@spookytkid]

in or CC class they brought in a lawyer. he said assume you will be arrested for any action you will take with your gun and assume they will take your vun for it. assume every prosecutor, judge and juror will be a anti gun. let that along with compleat knowledge of the law guide you actions and you might be ok.

[@foxhoundusmc]

@spookytkid if that's the case, you're already fucked. Do what you need to in order to survive, and let the chips fall where they may on the legal side.

[@spookytkid]

@@foxhoundusmc it just means train adequately, know the laws, act appropriately. then if any one or more of those things become a reality your lawyer has the best chance to defend you successfully. but hey go ahead and John Wayne it, and when you're carrying out your duty's as Tyrone's wife in the federal pen. you xan look back on those words of wisdom in a KZbin comment section and your flippant response. good luck Duke, lol

[@retselyarrh3895]

So you’re saying in the middle of the night when you hear noise in your house your gun should be hostered till you know? So how do you clear your house safely then!

[@paulh6101]

You don't clear your house unless u have extensive training, its not worth it. You gather all important persons with your firearm and then set a boundary if u havent already come across the threat. Call the police.

[@anthonymayor5171]

Keep the gun pointed at the ground and search with a flash light.

[@Saintbow]

My procedure is this Step 1: Scream out "Let's do this" Step 2: If I don't hear "Leeroy Jenkins!" yelled back...proceed to step 3A Step 3A: You jump in with murderous intent...Weapons hot... If the voice does yell back "Leeroy Jenkins!", you proceed to Step 3B Step 3B: You jump in with murderous intent...with your favorite flogging device... Mine is a hockey stick... If on the rare chance they have brought chicken, you have stern words with them while you eat.

[@KB1229YN]

@@anthonymayor5171 eyes and muzzle should be pointed in the direction of the possible threat not at the ground

[@anthonymayor5171]

@@KB1229YN and thats how you accidentally shoot grandma who is sleepwalking

[@doughudgens9275]

My solution is to have 2 lights on in the house all the time. They are low power LED’s so they don’t burn much energy, but provide enough light to clear the house in case of a problem. They also tend to discourage burglars because they see a light in the window and think someone is up. This also means I have enough light to do things at night without turning on a light to see.

[@Duzzies-101]

To my knowledge house burglaries nearly always occur during the day, business hours specifically

[@d0bbs]

Glad to see someone of experience verify some of my thoughts. All of the guntubers like talking about absolutely needing a weapon light for positive target ID. I get what they mean I think, but they mostly are talking about everyday carry and I believe that’s flawed. I’m walking in a dark parking lot and see someone approaching me. I draw my weapon and shine my extremely bright weapon light at them. Oh it’s a mother and child, maybe I’ll stop pointing my gun at them now. That seems far more likely than armed bad guy. In the civilian world using a weapon light to ID seems very situational and mostly stupid. If I’m drawing my weapon in public I’ve already identified a threat or else I’m not clearing garment in a Walmart parking lot. Yes before I fire I want to be absolutely sure of my target and the immediate area surrounding them. A weapon light seems important as that final check before using my CC, but a EDC light seems far more valuable.

[@MGB-learning]

Outstanding video and presentation.

[@jckcpd4539]

Great advise from a true expert in laws that involve firearms. I can only wish that my Police Department would have Massad on video as part of in-service training instead of woke social issues.

[@Pennsylvania2A]

What caliber and gun are you guys issued

[@Intranetusa]

Those woke social issues will save them from being sued for millions of dollars for beating up or accidentially killing unarmed poor people.

[@jckcpd4539]

@@Pennsylvania2A The 9mm is most common as a police duty firearm

[@adamsaylor7427]

Social issue education will actually prevent a lot of shootings in the first place, but yes, add Massad as a part of weapons training

[@jckcpd4539]

I respectly disagree with Adam. It is my experience that police firearm training is lacking and that more available time for advance training is required. Point and shoot only training lacks tactical shooting needed by police officers. I don't see how spending time on woke social issues saves lives or improves a police officer's expertise with his firearm.

[@warrenroberts1912]

One question though. Would searching with another flashlight then switching to your handgun be enough time in a self defense scenario?

[@onlineconsumer4796]

I shot IDPA indoors where we could have a dark stages. We used separate flashlights from our firearms. There were many different techniques used. I used a small LED light (SK78) that I could hold in my left hand between my middle and fore fingers and press the button on the back of the flashlight with my thumb to use it. When I needed to engage the target, I would fully depress the light button so it would stay on, point my firearm at the target and while holding the flashlight pointed at the target, I would use my left hand to support the firearm. Hard to explain so I googled searched images and found "Randi Rogers on Shooting With A Light" showing what I use but my light is a bit smaller. If the target was close, I could shoot single handed but I found this much better than one handed shooting because it added support to the firearm. Make it part of your dry fire practice. I do not use any mounted lights on my firearms as switching would just complicate things. If you have a mounted light, consider how and when you will turn it on.

[@johncourtleigh6092]

I had the same question. A cop I believe always carries with a round chambered ready to fire. If they didn't then there would be that second or two necessary to chamber the round aim and fire, potentially costing that cop their life.

[@il9861]

Flashlight in left hand. Wrist to wrist. Left hand underneath. Boom gun and light problem solved.

[@johncourtleigh6092]

@@il9861 BOOM ????? LOL

[@il9861]

@@johncourtleigh6092 what….

[@trapsquatch4937]

That's crazy... I literally came home 30 minutes ago to find my back door wide open. I made the family go back out to the truck and wait, while I went and searched my whole house with my sidearm and weapon light only to find my chocolate lab decided to come in the house. Very good video to watch today... Thank you guys for all that you do!

[@donharrison295]

Thank you for all of your amazing advice Ayoob. VERY HELPFUL!

[@alangross2277]

Great video and very thought provoking! Thanks for what you do. Everybody that shoots needs to be watching these videos, even if it's just to keep the safety reminders, fresh in our minds!

[@zososldier]

Sorry, as a private citizen, I'm not searching my house without turning the lights on. Almost every trainer and expert says to shelter in place in a designated location with what ever room aheads light on. Not to mention if you fear you are being burglarized, you have justification (in most jurisdictions) to have a weapon up and ready. Outside is a bit different. Public vs private property is different. There is no "one size fits all answer".

[@JamesReedy]

This is my basic approach now, shelter in place and use the element of surprise. I used to go outside armed when I heard a noise in the back yard etc. That was until one day the PD showed up at my house late knocking on my front door asking to come thru the house into my backyard to encircle a neighbor who was threatening his mom and they were concerned would jump the fence to flee. It occurred to me, what if they hadn't asked my permission and just went in my backyard in the interests of expediency? Could have ended up with dead or injured cops and/or myself...no thanks.

[@Wastelandman7000]

Well, sometimes you're not sure there is a break in. If you're not sure you go look to see what is going on before you call the cops. If you find out a break in is going down then you should retreat.

[@AC_metro]

Exactly bro. This thing about searching our home in the dark is glorified by tv. Good gravy, turn the lights on from around the corner. Anyway, on to another subject. Massad usually has decent info, but he is making a comparsion between some goober hunting out in the open and our home which is protected by the 4th Amendment. Besides, law enforcement do this on a regular basis - point a gun at a suspect... even if they don't immediately see a weapon. I guess they commit felony aggravated assault everytime they order a suspect to the ground?? No. Why should trained citizens be any different? If more people realize how quickly a suspect can produce a weapon and fire shots at you before you can even bring your unholstered weapon up (even more so drawing from a holster), they would get out of these liberal states that prosecute good citizens defending themselves.

[@zososldier]

@@JamesReedy Oh I know. It is a no brainer that if I get a "funny feeling" in a parking lot, I'm not going to pull my gun to search around. In that case, yes, use a handheld light but probably have hand on the gun while moving away from the believed danger. If I'm in my back yard where I think something is trying to do something bad (burglar or large predator animal), yeah, I'm probably gonna have a gun at low ready. But I am also turning the back porch light on. If I am in my house in the middle of the night and think someone broke in, there isn't a jury in any state worth living in that is going to give you felony aggravated assault/brandishing charges. Family member or not.

[@zososldier]

@@AC_metro Yeah, pretty much every trainer or expert says that clearing a structure alone is suicide. Gather your family, shelter in a hard position if possible and call 911 while being ready to shoot a bad guy coming through the door. You aren't John Wick.

[@jimihendrix1575]

I always felt having a light or laser mounted to your weapon was basically telling the 'bad-guy' exactly where you are as you search. You are saying, "I'm right here, behind this light!" "Just shoot at my light, you'll probably hit me!"

[@angrydragonslayer]

This is what i feel like with IR illuminators on NVGs

[@Vibycko]

Exactly

[@squidwardo7074]

Don't have it on all the time?

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

Except if you are searching a building, and you are invisible range, they already know where you are light or no light. You have the advantage by disorienting them with the light.

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

Maybe it's years of Combat, and maybe the training I've continued for the the past decade after military service...... But forgive me for not being willing to sacrifice seconds when milliseconds count. If you have time to drop the flashlight and switch to WML, you just got shot. Bad guys don't wait for you to switch to your weapon while they're aiming through the blind side of the closet doorway. Milliseconds! It's not ideal sure........ But if I flag someone who's not supposed to be somewhere believe me...... They were not supposed to be there. If for some unlikely reason it isn't a threat that requires deadly force, at least that's a decision I have the ability to make. You won't get that decision if you flag your handheld at that methed out intruder pointing a blaster at you. That's where I stand. Right or wrong? Who's really the judge? In this case I am, and I'm making sure my family and I don't fall victim in order to save someone's Fe Fe's from being flagged.

[@Benis650]

I don't even need a gun in my country (and we are not able to), but I like this video. He speaks in a calm, composed manner, with logical and well-organized thoughts. He also has a deep and trustworthy voice, good one

[@pray4mojo35]

Absolutely the best advice on pistol lights. I’m surprised at the amount of civilians who have weapon lights on their concealed carry pistols.

[@katesimpson7721]

How the fuck can it be illegal to hold your gun in your own home when laws specifically state you can open carry in your home.

[@42crazyguy]

Asking the real questions.

[@Rustypan471]

He’s just minimizing mistakes

[@rodgerthat6738]

It’s the same as you being able to open carry outside (in some states) but you can still be charged for pulling out your gun. I thinks it’s dumb, but the key is if the courts determine you were not in danger in the moment you pull out your gun, then you have just made someone fear for their life (assault) even if it is at your home.

[@Dirk_T_Sanch3z]

Probably depends on the state. I’m sure some illegal would be moving in to your house if you shot him in California.

[@sk8erguyjake]

Am I the only one concerned about the amount of time it would take to switch lights, draw your weapon and reacquire the target? While I could see this in a ccw situation outside the home, I find it unlikely that Id you drew a weapon on someone in your home late at night that you’d get felony assault. Without having even fired the firearm.

[@KB1229YN]

Thank you Jake. I thought I was the only one thinking this way. As an officer myself I have come across this situation several times and the home owner was never charged for any crime. As a matter of fact most of the time they were applauded by police for the courage to refuse to be a victim

[@kriskline7559]

Absolutely. No way am I searching my own home with my gun down while using my handheld search light. I live with only my wife, so when a loud thud is heard in my home at night I’m definitely using the gun light with her behind me. We have castle laws and carry insurance for a reason. Anyone who’s tested their speed to first shot with a handheld vs weapon mounted light knows the advantage of the weapon mounted light. I’m not giving a burglar any additional advantages. Statistically home invaders are armed, and I’d rather face a jury than limit my ability to protect myself.

[@kriskline7559]

In addition, I’m searching with a rifle most of the time in my home, so the handheld is out of the question.

[@sk8erguyjake]

Generally I like his stuff but this video is just a little bizarre. I’m trying to be humble because I know he’s an expert and I’m not; but this really isn’t making sense

[@russelder9743]

@@KB1229YN I live vey rural with my75 yo wife and dog...I need a free hand as I have to be able to grab the dog...there is no one else thats going to be in my house as my family lives very far away.....I totally agree outside the home

[@TreeBarkSide]

Another thing to consider is that YOU know every inch of your house. The intruder does not. This gives you a great advantage in the dark as you can navigate your way around while the intruder is constantly scanning the area to figure out what he is looking at. When you turn on that light, not only can that light illuminate the room, allowing the intruder to see the area just as well as you can, but it also gives your position away by telling him where you're coming from.

[@ClergetMusic]

Gotta watch out for already illuminated areas such as where night lights are positioned around the house. Maybe take them out in the event if you have the wherewithal?

[@austinpowers1999]

What if the intruder sold you the house?

[@SavageGunFighter21]

So you don't PID?

[@austinpowers1999]

@@SavageGunFighter21 do you DIP?

[@andrewmorke]

Mas, thank you for your super videos. I've enjoyed your books for decades.

[@michaelmarshall5847]

I love your videos. You’re the most accurate with your info and your presentation is great!

[@waynemartin9614]

Thank U Mas for enlightening us with these video messages which can literally save lives ! Been reading your columns since the 1980's , and R highly useful and enjoyable as they tend to make us think about what we might otherwise B doing WRONG !

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad you like them!

[@tonyl3762]

I think it depends on the situation. If everyone in your household is actually accounted for and it's clear that someone broke into your house, I don't see any problem with a blinding weapon mounted light for identification for home defense. I understand the caution but wouldn't make it an absolute.

[@alrbredwall]

Identification is fine. He is advising against using a light for searching.

[@herbderbler1585]

Aye, that kinda goes into the category of prior intel. If you simply hear a noise and don't know who or what is causing it, searching with a gun light might be a bad idea. However as you said, if you have your whole family accounted for and they've all vouched that they did not invite someone over without telling you, you know there's an entity in your house that isn't authorized to be there. Your next move might be different then. That being said, the possibility of a panic trigger pull is something to consider. There are many situations where you might catch someone who isn't supposed to be there, but you don't necessarily want/need to shoot them. Perhaps the home intruder is someone you know who is currently making a very stupid mistake but you'd prefer they didn't die for it. No matter how legally justified you were in shooting them, you'd probably feel awful about it for the rest of your life. It's just another complicated set of decisions you have to make in the moment. If I'm home alone I'm probably willing to give an identified intruder a moment to surrender, whereas if my family is there perhaps I'm more likely to just end the threat upon identification because I am NOT willing to risk the safety of my family for the sake of a burglar. Either way, perhaps Massad has a point that sweeping the house with a loaded gun while your nerves are at Def Con 1 should be treated as an absolute last resort.

[@tonyl3762]

@@herbderbler1585 I don't plan to go searching when my family is accounted for. That's dumb. I will post up and blind any intruder with a powerful WML. If they want to step into the light after my warnings, that's their fault and will get shot.

[@RoscoTurner]

One thing that I teach in my classes and surprised you did not mention here, is that once that light goes on, if there is a bad guy and he/she see that light, they know where you are and you become a target. I prefer to search with a remote light holding it as far from my body as possible, using my weak hand, and if I can ID a threat, then shoot with my strong hand while holding the light on the target with my weak hand.

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

Holding it from your body makes no sense. You are assuming the person you’re fighting is a good shot. They usually aren’t. They are just swinging lead in your direction. You holding your light one or 2 feet away from your body will not change if you are shot or not.

[@RoscoTurner]

@@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 I don't agree. First off, that was an old FBI training technique, that works. As a long time LEO, and police firearms instructor, I've done it both ways. My application for training civilians is different. Close range, down a hallway, or across a room, or a garage/patio, etc. Most bad guys will shoot for the light, the farther from your body that light is, the less chance of getting struck. At the same time, I tell people to take cover, and use that light to illuminate the area. Unlike the police who are moving fast and "expecting" to shoot, a civilian that hears a noise at their home or business is in search mode. It may be nothing, or it could be a lethal intruder. Nothing is perfect, but I do think that application for civilians is better than having a light on the gun. Just my opinion after 48 years of training people, including 16 as a police trainer.

[@Vorusen]

If only 10% of the owner of firearms were as diligent as you then we wouldnt have a lot of the problems we currently do. The amount of respect you show when speaking of a loaded firearm is what everyone needs to understand. Things like scanning a field with your hunting rifle scope because you're to cheap to buy binoculars means you are pointing a loaded rifle any anything and anyone in that area is what most people dont understand

[@HD-en8zv]

In Florida, for example, you have the castle doctrine. Which allows you to protect life inside of your own home, meaning you do NOT have to run or hide, but instead the right to eliminate the threat if need be. If you point a gun at someone, in your own home, it would be legal as long as you do not threaten or actively commit assault and/ or battery. Pointing a gun to identify when clearing, then quickly holstering or point the firearm down, would not raise to the level of assault or battery. Yes, it would be aggravated, due to the deadly weapon, but due to all the circumstances and legalities, no charges should be filed or brought against someone doing the right thing legally and morally. God Bless the Second Amendment!