CZ Shadow 2 vs Sig Sauer X-Five - If I Could Only Have One...

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KSGunGuy

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@jakeblasdel3454
@jakeblasdel3454 5 жыл бұрын
CZs are just unreal. They will go down in history ( are going down in history ) as one of the finest pistols made. Right along with the Hi-power. 75s are an addiction, to me even more that my 1911 fetish. Great mag capacity, low muzzle flip, predictable double action and amazing reliability. Glad to see they are no longer the best kept secret in the pistol world. Plus they have the look of an old school muscle car in a world of “tuner” pistols.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Well said! I too think CZ has done an awesome job and always look forward to new releases. Thank you and cheers!
@boss350z5
@boss350z5 6 жыл бұрын
I love my Sigs; but the Shadow is in a league of it's own... Id take the CZ all day.
@danditto4864
@danditto4864 4 жыл бұрын
The Shadow 2 is in a whole different class for me. Going to be setting the standard for awhile.
@lon242
@lon242 6 жыл бұрын
Shadow 2 won't be beat for a long time, it's just designed to be beast
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! Thank you and cheers!
@kyleg1166
@kyleg1166 6 жыл бұрын
Unless Kriss can get the production all stainless model to market. Here that Kriss?!
@ChristofferEricsater
@ChristofferEricsater 6 жыл бұрын
Is only on production devision though... however, however, if one choose to compete in the production devision how do you think the CZ will do in Precision shooting vs its’ original target group: Dynamic shooters? Will it be as good in pure precision shooting competitions?
@RonGallardo777
@RonGallardo777 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Erics I had a S2 and sold it and got a Tanfoglio Stock 2 xtreme and love it
@chrisrock4428
@chrisrock4428 5 жыл бұрын
That all Steel Walther Ppq Match coming out may give it a run.
@halkael2317
@halkael2317 4 жыл бұрын
Went to a range, a guy let me shoot his Shadow2... Now I own my own!! What an AWESOME gun!!
@ozthegreater9320
@ozthegreater9320 6 жыл бұрын
When in doubt always pick CZ
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
@sergiochairez7153
@sergiochairez7153 5 жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with cz shaodow is that I dont have one😭
@Pyrochemik007
@Pyrochemik007 4 жыл бұрын
@Pistol Pete That is kinda discriminatory - it is not a gun a standart gangster would use. For such price he would get 3 AKs, two for his arms and the third for his dick.
@chizzelfingers
@chizzelfingers 3 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful comment, I agree
@xithappens
@xithappens 3 жыл бұрын
HUGE problem.
@GAV63
@GAV63 2 жыл бұрын
I must have yours, I own 2.
@TheHumbleMarksman
@TheHumbleMarksman 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. The XFive is a very good gun and probably a better all arounder- but the Shadow 2 is the best Production gun made.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Bold claim to say it's the best but I am sure many agree with you Humble. I will say that it's a fantastic gun and worth every penny. Thank you and cheers!
@TheHumbleMarksman
@TheHumbleMarksman 6 жыл бұрын
For Production division - not production gun - I should clarify! It's very soft shooting, very accurate, Very aggressive frame, very ergonomic frame, drilled and tapped mag release, and out of the box doesn't "need" anything. The XFive is a solid Production choice too, one of the better choices - but the grip needs texture, the mags it ships with don't work in Production division, the frame could use a bit of sculpting under the tang to allow strong hand thumb a better weld to it (that's a "me" issue due to how I grip). As far as plastic guns go - the XFive is one of the better ones - I just find the 40 oz plus guns easier to shoot fast. I believe the Shadow 2 will be the #1 gun in Production Division this year at nationals - it was #3 last year - having only been out 6 months.
@rrobb47
@rrobb47 6 жыл бұрын
TheHumbleMarksman Maybe it'll be #1, but we all know it's the archer not the arrow. Given some time to get familiar with the guns, I bet any of the top guys wouldn't change finishing position by switching from a Stock II to a Shadow 2 or vice versa.
@TheHumbleMarksman
@TheHumbleMarksman 6 жыл бұрын
I consider the Stock 2 the "same" as a Shadow 2 from recoil characteristics - the STock 2 "needs" trigger work and a fiber sight, the Shadow 2 "needs" a lighter mainspring and that's it. Shadow 2 has better checkering, Stock II has a more contoured beavertail and a better finish. Out of the box - the SHadow 2 is a more squared away gun and the fact it's routinely available for $100 more than a new Stock 2 (if you can find one) leads me to that choice. There's nothing wrong with a Tanfo, hell there is nothing wrong with any of them. the 40+ ounce guns are easier to shoot faster once they're out of the holster, the lighter guns present faster and swing faster target to target. Anything is possible but many/most find the heavy guns "easier".
@CZIndonesia
@CZIndonesia 6 жыл бұрын
Stock II and Shadow 2 are the holy guns of Production division 😂
@PragmaticTornado
@PragmaticTornado 5 жыл бұрын
In my country, it's a long and arduous process to get handgun licenses. Basically, it took me 1 year and 3 months, with a lot of work in between, to get me to the point where I can buy a 9MM. Here, it really is a matter of "I can only have one" (pr caliber, maximum 4 different calibers), so I randomly checked out a CZ Shadow 2 at my local gun shop last weekend. Instantly fell in love with it, and now I have decided to buy one. I came into the store having no idea what to pick, and came out 99% sure. After checking it out some more, the last percent fell into place. I loved the look and feel of it, and the trigger was just superb straight out of the box. Good sights too.
@jangolub8240
@jangolub8240 5 жыл бұрын
Where are you from? What was the whole process to get the license?
@PragmaticTornado
@PragmaticTornado 5 жыл бұрын
@@jangolub8240 Norway. One of the stricter countries in the world where handguns are concerned. Rifles and shotguns aren't too bad. First you have to be a member of a handgun club, for a minimum of 6 months (12 months for anything higher than .22LR in my particular club). You have to attend minimum 2 organized training sessions each month during that period, and the club has to sign off on each of those sessions. Then, once all that is done, you can ask your club whether they will vouch for you for gun ownership, and if they do, you have to deliver a piece of paper from the club, plus a ton of other documentation, to the police. Then you have to wait around 3 months for the response, and if the application is accepted, you have to pay a fee, and then you can purchase a weapon (or weapons). The police denies applications regularly, for so many different reasons. It is strict, and getting stricter by the day. And you can only own 1 handgun pr caliber, and a maximum of 4 different calibers, unless you are an active competition shooter, at which point you may be granted a backup weapon license in the same caliber as the one you compete in. I have all 4 licenses now, and 3 guns, so I am only missing my .44 Magnum Desert Eagle in Titanium Gold, and my collection is complete.
@jangolub8240
@jangolub8240 5 жыл бұрын
@@PragmaticTornadowiw, thats even stricter than in Slovenia. I just finished my test about safe gun hadling, now i have to pass a medical exam and become a part of a club. Than i can fill an application to get a license to be a gun owner, but i can only carry it to the shooting site, and back home. I think that is all. And the police checks you out, so only minor things still go tru, no crimes, just tickets and stuff. Thats super that you got it, wish me luck that my license goes tru :)
@PragmaticTornado
@PragmaticTornado 5 жыл бұрын
@@jangolub8240 Oh yeah you also need a 3 day firearms safety course before you can even become a member. Surprisingly there is no medical exam required but if you have any kind of mental disease history which the police finds out about, any applications are denied. And any criminal record and you can forget owning any weapons. We can carry our firearms to and from the range, weapons shops for servicing and the like, and any other places where we are shooting. Basically the same there as in your country. Good luck with it! :)
@jangolub8240
@jangolub8240 5 жыл бұрын
@@PragmaticTornado thank you, if i get the permission to buy a handgun im getting myself a cz shadow 2. About the mental health? I was at a doctor once cuz i was depresed, do you think that will be an issue?
@NolanOutdoors
@NolanOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
Id definitely go CZ! Excellent video KS!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Nolan! Always great to see you brother. Tough to beat the Shadow for sure. Cheers brother!
@pweter351
@pweter351 4 жыл бұрын
First pistol I shot was a SHADOW 2, first pistol i bought also love it got third in my first comp with it. Got a 198/200 rapid fire at 25m. Hit metal silhouette at 100m.
@TUCOtheratt
@TUCOtheratt 6 жыл бұрын
I own a Shadow 2 and a Sig 320. I have won divisions with both. My performance differences with these two pistols are negligible, including muzzle flip which I have filmed in slow mo with a grid board behind the pistols. The S2 is a little more accurate. The trade off is that it will not take all factory ammo or brass (that's a big deal) The hammer down start for the S2 in Production is an extra thing to deal with during the make ready and first two shots. Bottom line it's a toss up.
@buckshot279
@buckshot279 6 жыл бұрын
I love my CZ Shadow 2. It's my competition gun in USPSA. But I also love my ALL STEEL first generation Sig Sauer X-Fives. A more accurate and fair comparison would have been to compare the CZ Shadow 2 (an all steel gun) to the Sig Sauer X-Five Allround (also an all steel gun), not the polymer framed Sig P320 X-Five.
@jakubjochec
@jakubjochec 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Gustafson exactly, this is like comparing apples to strawberries
@jonasaberg
@jonasaberg 4 жыл бұрын
Or a Tanfoglio Stock 2
@milehighed52801
@milehighed52801 6 жыл бұрын
Hey KS! I agree, the Shadow 2 takes it. There's just something about a metal DA/SA hammer fired pistol. Plus, the additional weight helps keep the muzzle down. You're right about the Shadow 2 making you (the user) a better shooter. My CZ75 Omega does that for me even though it's not setup for competition. It's a Plain Jane stock gun wearing Truglo TFX Pro sights. It still makes me look good! 😎 But the Shadow 2 just takes it to a much higher level. Pricey for sure, but as in many other instances.....you get what you pay for. It's on my short list! Nice job KS, as always! 👍🏻👍🏻
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much MileHigh! That 75 Omega sounds pretty sweet too. I'd love to shoot one at some point. Cheers as always brother!
@j.r.777
@j.r.777 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a limited edition Sig Sauer P320 X5, about a week and a half ago. It has a coyote brown slide and was only offered through one distributor. The shop that I bought it from, bought the last 3 guns from the distributor. The gun is very impressive and I like it a lot. It is definitely a full size gun but has really good ergonomics. The trigger on my X5, is incredibly smooth. I also love the fact that my X5, came with 4, 21 round magazines. It took me 85 rounds, to fully load the gun and magazines.
@jamesharris184
@jamesharris184 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to guns, and I'm in Canada. When you talk about the size of your magazines I am awestruck. With no such thing here, with Junior, I mean prime minister Trudeau at the helm. All these regulations, and we all know criminals will always abide by them. Good for you guys stay strong and free.
@j.r.777
@j.r.777 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesharris184, thank you brother! Do your best to stay safe and do what you can do. Are you limited to how many magazines you can own? If not, buy as many as you can. Canada, is a very beautiful Country and I used to love going there. All the best to you friend.
@MrDucatiV4
@MrDucatiV4 7 ай бұрын
The CZ shadow 2 is straight up beastly in performance! One of the best out there! I highly recommend it! 🔥
@danditto4864
@danditto4864 4 жыл бұрын
The Shadow 2 is superb!! Only change I would make is I would put those cocking wings in the rear of the slide that the H&K VP-9 has to make sling shot racking the slide easier in competition. The other thing I would do is recommend that you coat the grove for the slide rails with Lucas Red “N” Tacky #2 Multi-Purpose EP Grease, so that slide is even smoother and will have no wear. Fantastic Pistol.
@curtisgriggs2822
@curtisgriggs2822 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently purchased the CZ shadow 2, and I really love it. Shoots like a dream.
@HarrysHolsters
@HarrysHolsters 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but the X Five has never appealed to me even though I like the other X series guns. But the striker fired trigger would probably make more sense for me if I were to shoot competition. I still really want a shadow 2 and am considering boycotting your channel every-time you do a video on one! lol Great comparison KS!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! It's definitely time for you to get a shadow 2. They are awesome! Thank you and cheers Harry!
@norfolknwhey4787
@norfolknwhey4787 5 жыл бұрын
Once you make the switch to DA/SA, it’s hard to go back to a striker pistol. Since making the switch, I only use striker for IDPA, the rest are CZ/STI DA/SA.
@davidlewis7382
@davidlewis7382 6 жыл бұрын
Love my CZ Shadow, super smooth!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I agree David! Thank you and cheers!
@AlfonsoRamirez-fg5tm
@AlfonsoRamirez-fg5tm Жыл бұрын
If you're looking around for a BB pistol I would recommend this one kzbin.infoUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ . I ordered two BB pistols from Dan Wesson and this one is so much nicer than the other one. It's a well built gun. Can't say that about the other one. I thought the Mag was pretty easy to load. I also just lock the spring back and fill up the hole with 16 BB's with no sweat. Easily remove the rear part of the handle from the bottom with the Mag removed to access the CO2 chamber. Sweet. Very nice painted sights on both ends. Doesn't have blowback but the gun is rated at 410 fps the blowback edition is 365 fps.Didn't really know much about BB guns before but now I see that Umarex makes some fine BB guns. You'd be hard pressed to find a nicer CO2 air pistol than this one I think. Just seems flawless. It even states on the packaging Glock perfection. I think my next Airgun may very well be an Umerex. Oh and if you really want a blowback (don't think amazon sells the Glock w/blowback) you might consider the Beretta APX by Umarex. But that gun is only rated at 310 fps. All things being equal, if it were me I'd buy the Glock again in a heartbeat :)
@Blackhawk556.
@Blackhawk556. 4 жыл бұрын
I have the SP-01 with safety and it is a beast. I seriously do feel like I’m a superior shooter after shooting it lol. Easy my favorite.
@norfolknwhey4787
@norfolknwhey4787 5 жыл бұрын
Great information here, thanks for the video quality. One side note, with heavy competition-style pistols, a lot of the recoil brunt is absorbed by the weight... when shooting, add a little more bend in your elbows, and they will act like recoil dampeners allowing you to stay on target more easily. This method really makes a difference with a pistol like the CZ, and once mastered, the front post will move up and back down very quickly. 👍🏼
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@danmckeon6221
@danmckeon6221 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, 1 year ago I would have thought you were CZ biased, only because I couldn't afford to try the Shadow, after saving my pennies, and trying both guns now, I totally agree! The Shadow 2 is in a different class than the Sig. Thank you for a very fair evaluation!!
@Firearms101
@Firearms101 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison KS. CZ looks to be very choice. Both great Firearms. Thanks for sharing brother!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 101! Both are indeed a lot of fun. Cheers!
@neverobey1477
@neverobey1477 6 жыл бұрын
That CZ looks like a mob boss.. The sig looks like a navy seal.. I'll take the mob boss..
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
@MrCuervo22779
@MrCuervo22779 6 жыл бұрын
NEVER OBEY very refined, classy and all business.
@fumasterchu12
@fumasterchu12 6 жыл бұрын
I thought this was an easy one until I watched the video, I was surprised at all the features of the Sig. I also like the flat faced trigger and the huge capacity as well. At the end of the day, I would still choose the S2. My main reason is the "cheap" feel of the polymer in their new striker-fired lines. I like everything else about them, just not the feel of their polymer. I also like the look of the slide better on the X5 and the bull barrel. It has so much going for it, but hard to beat the classic look, sleek lines and solid feel of a CZ. Another awesome review brother and you chose wisely, IMO! :D Have a great weekend!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fu! I agree, both have a lot going for them and the Sig is definitely fully loaded. I agree though, it's tough to beat the Shadow 2. It just wants to shoot! Cheers brother!
@range-randy8148
@range-randy8148 6 жыл бұрын
Looking just at accuracy of a centerfire handgun from the factory I have not shot anything more accurate than the Shadow 2. Great accurate handgun and fun to shoot.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said Randy! It really is an extraordinary gun. Thank you and cheers brother!
@bradypassant
@bradypassant 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing I own which is more accurate from the factory is my Colt Python 🐍 but they don’t even make them anymore lol
@shadow2851
@shadow2851 5 жыл бұрын
The new P320 X5 Legion is 43.5 oz. Getting close to the weight of the Shadow 2 at 46.5 oz. Current X5 weight is 35.6 oz. which I like.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That's true. Thank you and cheers!
@jjsemperfi
@jjsemperfi 5 жыл бұрын
Shadow 2 it’s also about $500 cheaper than the CZ.
@anythingfastimdown
@anythingfastimdown 6 жыл бұрын
I bought both of these at the same time because of this video. Had them now for two weeks. I have ran around 1,000 rounds through each. Honestly I can’t really pick my favorite. I thought it would be the cz I’ll admit I shoot it a lot faster lol it’s built for speed. But the sig seems more accurate for some reason. Hell at 75 yds ( I know its impractical to fight with a pistol at this distance) I made 21 shots (a whole mag) on a full size silhouette. With the cz I averaged 13 or 14 out of the 17 round mag. That being said I still don’t have a favorite.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Ben, that’s awesome! I’m humbled that the vid had something to do with it, and hopefully you’ll continue to enjoy both. That’s amazing about the Sig accuracy! Very impressive. As for the CZ, it’s one of my favs and truly tough to beat. Thank you for sharing and cheers brother!
@galicije83
@galicije83 6 жыл бұрын
My good friend Igor Jankovic (shooting for Serbian Zandarmeria team in IPSC and he is 3 times world champ in shot gun modifed divison) says that Shadow 2 is best gun on market for Production division... I am proud owner of CZ Shadow 2 in last 8 months....
@Marijogrobar1
@Marijogrobar1 6 жыл бұрын
sve zavisi sta ti lezi u ruci ja treniram neke ljude u americi i imam 50-tak pistolja od toga 7 sigs Sig P 320 compact Sig P320 Tacops and Sig P320x 5 tactical full probao sam shadow nisam precizan kao sa Sig x5 i sa svojom preradjenom beretom za mene ,sve zavisi kome sta lezi najbolje u ruci pozz
@wbowers313
@wbowers313 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE my SIg X5. I'm a huge Sig fan but recently purchased a Shadow 2 and oh man... The Shadow 2 is an incredible gun. Luckily, I have both and absolutely love them both! I don't think i could pick one over the other unless it was for a specific use. Great guns either way you go.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
You have a great collection and I agree! Thank you and cheers!
@scottward8383
@scottward8383 Жыл бұрын
Which one has less muzzle flip?
@SargentRay
@SargentRay 5 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. I have shot many pistols so far but when i tried the CZ a few months ago i just couldn't let it go. It has to be the most well balanced gun i have ever held in my hands. The trigger is just a dream come true and i completely agree with you it makes an average shooter shoot better. I consider myself an experienced shooter and i also think i shoot pretty good, but when i tried the CZ i managed a one inch 10 round group at 10 yards without effort. The way i see it, it would take little to no mods at all to make it my competition gun. This pistol is just right for me, it's quite expensive here in Canada right around 1,400$ plus tx, but i'm getting one in a few months for sure. Thank's for the great and honest review KS.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
They really are top quality guns and I agree about the shooting capabilities! Thank you and cheers Ray!
@tealkbc1
@tealkbc1 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia you can expect to pay a little over $2000CAD...incl tax for a CZ S2.
@KBWrecker
@KBWrecker 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Shadow 2. I can't imagine a scenario where I would ever sell it.
@joerobertson7887
@joerobertson7887 3 жыл бұрын
I have both of these and agree with you on the CZ Shadow 2. It's an outstanding pistol.
@ericmpena
@ericmpena 6 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I owned an X-Five and loved it...but ended up selling it for a P229 Legion RX...then I wasn’t happy with the Legion so I sold it for a Shadow 2. Absolutely zero regrets with where I’ve ended up. The Shadow 2 is by far better than the X-Five, and IMO even better than the Sig Legion series. I started off a Sig guy, but my CZ collection outnumbers my Sigs now.
@dbutler91
@dbutler91 6 жыл бұрын
I own a lot of sig pistols...X carry and the X5. I love them both. The CZ is my next pistol I want and I fired it and yes, it's a beast but very manageable in the hand...well balanced. Home defense and range pistol.. Sig x5 and cz shadow 2... Very well made and can't go wrong with either.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said all the way around! Thank you and cheers!
@JohnAdams-mu7xd
@JohnAdams-mu7xd 2 жыл бұрын
good review 👍
@robertdaniello5717
@robertdaniello5717 5 жыл бұрын
Just got the CZ in Grey - so glad you did the XFive as comparison
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the CZ! They are great guns indeed. Thank you and cheers!
@dlouque
@dlouque 6 жыл бұрын
I sold my P320 X5 a few weeks ago because I shoot my CZ much better. Had a case blowout and blew the extractor out the slide and Sig said it was an expendable part and I had to pay $21 for a new one, the gun was 2 weeks old. I now also have a CZ TS Orange in 9mm and that gun is absolutely awesome. The only Sigs I have now and love is my 226 Legion, and my EDC P365. I've won more matches using a CZ than all others I used previously, XD9 custom, Glock, and M&P. CZ's are the best for the money.
@solarflare1008
@solarflare1008 6 жыл бұрын
CZ the most used handgun by far and away on planet earth. The best stands an the top, never look down.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you and cheers!
@ConstiDeluxe
@ConstiDeluxe 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my Shadow 2 partly because of your review! Thanks for the great Video. Changed the grip to black ones though.. Greetings from Germany
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the S2 and I'm glad to help! Thank you and cheers!
@OmegaBahn
@OmegaBahn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning V-Tac and the X-Carry in comparison to the trigger of the Sig X-Five.
@kraemer66
@kraemer66 6 жыл бұрын
I shoot the x-five in matches, my buddy shoots the Shadow 2. They both amazing right out of the box. These are my two favorite handguns.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said! Cheers!
@marlowepaalan2920
@marlowepaalan2920 5 жыл бұрын
hmmm. you want him to say shadow 2 is better. i think its very subjective. most shooter with big hands prefer the cz. the sig has better ergo in my opinion. id go with sig.
@norfolknwhey4787
@norfolknwhey4787 5 жыл бұрын
M R Pal it depends on the intended use. For production competition, the shadow 2 can’t be beat. The trigger alone puts it in a class of its own.
@marlowepaalan2920
@marlowepaalan2920 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Crow I like the cz target sports better but it will make me just compete in production limited
@Youngguns173SW
@Youngguns173SW 6 жыл бұрын
Good call to me no comparison I sold my X5 320 it just felt cheap built for a 800.00 gun. The Shadow is way ahead in my book. Great job KS 👍
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Youngguns! Definitely tough to beat the Shadow. It's just a beast of a gun. Cheers!
@timw911
@timw911 5 жыл бұрын
CZ has a Optic Ready Shadow 2 thats already out in Europe and Canada and will be in the USA this year. IT also allows the CZ to make the CO division weight with a 21/22rd mag
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
I saw that! Can’t wait to see it. Thank you and cheers!
@christopherbarger6112
@christopherbarger6112 6 жыл бұрын
CZ all day. Just can’t get behind Sigs with their shoddy QC nowadays
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
You aren’t alone there! Thank you and cheers!
@kansaspatriot2051
@kansaspatriot2051 6 жыл бұрын
This is America!!! You can, and should, have BOTH!!!! Great vid and handguns!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
@joewger
@joewger 6 жыл бұрын
Update: I contacted a friend who's friend works at Sig. He said the 320 modularity makes one gun ok and the next gun a lemon. The customer reps are told to say anything to keep returns low and they are swamped with returned pistols. The circuitry on the Romeo sights go bad frequently and the Sig is a one trick pony unlike the Glock MOS with changeable site plates. -FYI.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I can see that having the modular system can promote some inconsistencies. That makes sense. Hopefully with time, Sig can really hone in on the design. Time will tell. Thank you and cheers!
@elnarsafar8903
@elnarsafar8903 6 жыл бұрын
Cz shadow 2 is the Rolls Royce of the gun world
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
It is definitely awesome! Thank you and cheers!
@INGAyala-ec8tj
@INGAyala-ec8tj 6 жыл бұрын
Which is the better, cz shadown2 or sig p 210?
@lazerrred
@lazerrred 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I would like to have both in my collection to find out.:) 🤞 Price point and Sig’s P210 bullseye style competition, or lack of uspsa / idpa competitions mag capacity’s, grips, (oh, they are beautiful) etc.on the Sig is getting to close to pricing on some custom 2011’s...?? Very good question.
@lazerrred
@lazerrred 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I do have a Shadow 2 and love it.
@norfolknwhey4787
@norfolknwhey4787 5 жыл бұрын
While I love my CZ’s, I’d have to give the crown to STI 2011 as the “Rolls Royce”. Competed with a CZ for 3 years before finally moving to STI. The CZ trigger is absolutely amazing, and the STI is even better. Can’t go wrong with either.
@rudrashakti108
@rudrashakti108 2 жыл бұрын
I rented a cz 75 sp01, and shot it for the first time a few days ago. I was blown away. Classical feel and look, flat shooting, a total pleasure. Then I rented a shadow and quite frankly I preferred the regular cz and shot it better too. I shot my sig legion p226 a bit better as far as groupings, but that’s likely due to my familiarity with it. Still thinking about that cz though… Otherwise, what else, the takedown lever on the cz bugged my support thumb, so I just put it right below it and above the trigger. Took care of that problem. Also the safety is severely stupid and wouldn’t work in combat, for me, but the decocker version would be amazing.
@lazerrred
@lazerrred 6 жыл бұрын
CZ for me. You cannot beat the CZ Shadow II’s trigger, esp if it’s been tweaked a little. + I’m an old, and still am a 1911 fan and love and all steel gun. That said, Sig is doing some cool things with the modularity concept with the 320, but that may just end up a marketing thing.... ? I do have a P320 compact and a P365 and do like both for what they are, and have NOT had the first issue with either. (Over 1000 rds through the 365 and not a single hiccup) I do inspect it regularly, and do trust it. :)
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Right on! That’s great that your SIgs are trouble free. Thank you and cheers!
@ericmoss8344
@ericmoss8344 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE my CZ Shadow 2! Great pistol! :)
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
@bobjohnson3077
@bobjohnson3077 6 жыл бұрын
CZ is well made and consistent as hell! I go with the reliability and ergonomics of CZ. I have a couple and love each one.
@BigJohnsonGG
@BigJohnsonGG 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Choice! #CZLIFE Indeed, thanks for the 3guys SO! Carry On!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Big J! Cheers as always!
@teedubya5772
@teedubya5772 4 жыл бұрын
CZ all the way but especially the Shadow 2. That’s a no-brainer
@wpymes
@wpymes 2 жыл бұрын
I have both. I couldnt find the OR version of the Shadow 2 so I shoot it with its original sights. I installed a SiG Romeo 1 on the X5 so its like cheating. Its lighter and very accurate. In my case if I had to pick one...Id keep them both. Great video.
@randomhandle
@randomhandle 6 жыл бұрын
Got my Shadow 2 for $999. Boom! Saw that price and jumped at it.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome price! Thank you and cheers!
@SgtRudySmith31bRet
@SgtRudySmith31bRet 6 жыл бұрын
I just got the sig p320 x5 for 849$ after tax
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I recommend trying the Shadow 2. Well worth it
@tbl299
@tbl299 6 жыл бұрын
Same here M Ross excellent gun!
@danielhesse8600
@danielhesse8600 6 жыл бұрын
Sheesh, which version and where did you find it for that?
@LHORD4233
@LHORD4233 6 жыл бұрын
i think the xfive has an accessories for competition use..that's why it was there.. if im not mistaken the rail where use to put a mount for optics and acts as counterweight.. i just watch the sig video about the x series of handguns.. maybe you can watch it..
@scottf.3808
@scottf.3808 6 жыл бұрын
As always so much good detailed info as really like both pistols but I always seem to lean towards the CZ....Good comparison vid...I hope to someday shoot either of em.....Good stuff...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Scott! Great to see you as always brother. Cheers!
@InSightFreedom
@InSightFreedom 6 жыл бұрын
Oh. How did I miss this? Enquiring minds MUST know. So I’ve asked around a bit. Have you experimented with different grain rounds in the S2? If so, I would be interested in your thoughts. So far I’ve mostly shot 115 gr and 124 gr and thought the heavier grain was consistently more accurate testing from 7 to 15 yards. I did stretch out once to 25 yards with a spread of about 7 to 8 inches with 124 gr.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks InSight! I’ve only run 115 and 124 through it but hopefully will try some different loads soon. Absolutely love it! Cheers!
@billtshudy3653
@billtshudy3653 3 жыл бұрын
Just got an X5. Decided to go with a TSO instead on a Shadow 2. NO comparison in these guns, the TSO is superior in every way. I mounted a red dot on the X5 which makes it fun to shoot. Both are good to have in the collection.
@darkhalo0868
@darkhalo0868 6 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy, I'm pretty sure this was a difficult choice to make. Both are EXTREMELY well made gun. In reality you can't go wrong with neither. I lean more to CZ's because I own 2 CZ's and I have no grips whatsoever, but Sigs are WELL Respected!! Very informative video, keep up the good work!!!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Keith! Well said indeed brother. I agree about the CZs and thoroughly enjoy mine. Cheers brother!
@jeremysiegel10
@jeremysiegel10 6 жыл бұрын
subscribed, quality content, no bullshit, and fair
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@mikebyerly2344
@mikebyerly2344 5 жыл бұрын
How about a comparison of the Shadow 2, and a Jericho 941 all steel ? I have two of the Jericho's, and I have heard comparisons of those to CZ 75's. Nice video's. What is the target distance in the range shooting? Thanks
@sandymitchell8182
@sandymitchell8182 5 жыл бұрын
wow i cant pick, luckily you own both! great vids,enjoy watching them,just subscribed
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
They are definitely both worth checking out! Thank you and cheers!
@13sage13
@13sage13 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of talking for a gun to gun comparison when the obvious choice is CZ. They’re not even in the same category.
@bigsteve6713
@bigsteve6713 5 жыл бұрын
I own a Sig X5 Legion and a CZ TSO. These are my 2 very FAVS! I was a Smith & Wesson M&P fan for many years! I own a standard 9, Compact 9, shield 9, and a Pro series CORE 9. After buying the CZ and SIG, yes I bought them at the same time! I realized something... (here comes my CAR analogy, LOL). HONDA, makes good cars. But they are NOT a Cadillac. Cadillac makes great cars too. But they are NOT a Mercedes Benz. HONDA: M&P ($500) CADILLAC: SIG ($900) BENZ: CZ ($1800) While they are all good functioning cars/guns. They all have their purpose. And they do it well. Personal note: I will NEVER shoot the HONDAS again (I gave them to my sons, Lol). The CZ shoots the best and is just BUTTER! It’s tolerances are perfect and it’s by far the SMOOTHEST Gun I own!!! It’s trigger and reset are frickin unbelievable!!! BUT... and I mean but... I CANT FUCKIN put the Sig X5 Legion Down! It’s AMAZING! I’m watching TV and just playing with it! It’s just damn right AWESOME!!! It’s become my EDC and I’m in a state where OPEN CARRY IS LEGAL!!! I LOVE IT! I’m a LARGE MAN! 6’3”, 290lbs. And not a Fattard!!! I’m 50yrs old and workout everyday so the gun looks normal on me... Ps. I got a Trijicon RMR fiberoptic red dot and 23 round extended mags on the SIG. I got a Trijicon SRO, 21 round extended mags, an Orange anodized gas pedal and Trigger on the CZ.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 4 жыл бұрын
Good review and helpful analogy with the cars to those looking to buy.
@timmyd.7665
@timmyd.7665 6 жыл бұрын
I own an x5 and love it to pieces but the way this was broken down i have no arguments. Both are top of the line and CZ has always made great pistols. I still love my x5 tho :) oh and thanks for keeping them both in the context of their intended use and that’s competitions/range shooting
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and I agree, they are both fantastic guns! Cheers!
@xochj
@xochj 5 жыл бұрын
Had a P320 legion. Its trigger was sloppy, the barrel had .009 axial play and .080 lateral slop; it wouldn't shoot better than 9-inch groups at 15 yards from a machine rest with match ammo. Huge disappointment. Maybe it was a lemon, but that's a QC issue. At least it felt good in the hand...
@richardlee4438
@richardlee4438 5 жыл бұрын
You should compare the new legion x5 vs the shadow again
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That would be cool! Thank you and cheers!
@Kris31988
@Kris31988 5 жыл бұрын
@@KSGunGuy01 I second that
@deltamike407
@deltamike407 5 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy another vote for legion vs shadow 2
@MustHaveJustice
@MustHaveJustice 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah one more vote here
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 4 жыл бұрын
Cz shadow for me
@dirtmagurt5752
@dirtmagurt5752 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Sig and I Love it! If the CZ is what you say it is (I’m going to test drive it today) then I will CZ should send you a well earned commission! Thanks!
@vinnywacchio6436
@vinnywacchio6436 5 жыл бұрын
FYI - they do have competition in low light where you must have a flashlight. Not USPSA or Steel but local competitions. I held and dry fired both. My first competition gun was a CZ 75 and I won some prize money with it. I am too old to compete so I was just looking for a good range gun after I retired last year. I also tend towards Sigs and His and owned an X Sig in the past. I loved the CZ but it was heavier and at my age that matters. I also liked the ability to load almost a whole box of ammo in the four magazines. Plus I can buy different frames for carry without buying a whole new gun. Nonetheless I may get the CZ next Christmas.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you and cheers!
@stevailo
@stevailo 4 жыл бұрын
I’d take the cz basically because I don’t have one and I am saving up to get one, so I really had to think about which one to get if I can only have one: for a long time (maybe even a couple of years) I will really only have one
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Nice.. No. Awesome video! Been a big Sig fan for some time now, esp the Sig P226 X-Five. This X5 also seemed like an awesome gun, but I would too go with the CZ S2. The looks, shapes and design are really awesome.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! The 226 X Five is beautiful indeed. Cheers!
@almcknight7889
@almcknight7889 5 жыл бұрын
I own and an X-Five. IMO, the best trigger on a polymer framed pistol (stock) hands down! Although a good video, I think pitting the CZ against an alloy framed Sig X variant may net different results. Excellent video though, keep up the good work.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
It was a highly requested video and a ton of fun to make. Thank you and cheers Al!
@bojackson3923
@bojackson3923 4 жыл бұрын
Well I have the CZ P07, P09, P10c, Rami, P01, n SP01 tactical, why not the Shadow 2?? .... On my way right now to buy it!...I love cz's, n I have several Sigs in my collection as well... Bout to see which one I'll like the best...
@atoperator1776
@atoperator1776 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a CZ owner and have owned many many other brands of handgun but since my first CZ I've never looked back unless it's an STI it won't beat a CZ say what you want CZ IS KING
@joseparra6748
@joseparra6748 5 жыл бұрын
Cz is a king not to be messed with, but sti sucks balls.
@CZFanGrrl
@CZFanGrrl 5 жыл бұрын
I have both of them. I have a Shadow 2, an optic ready Shadow 2 with a Vortex Venom and a Sig P320 X5 with Sig Romeo 1 optic. I bought the Sig X5 for Carry optics initially, followed by the Shadow 2 OR chiefly because the S2 was so damn hard to get hold of, despite being on a waitlist since May 2018 with one vendor and then jumping ship to another vendor who was already on their second shipment and I wanted an optic ready gun BAD. So the Sig did not win me over in term of ergonomics and shootability, but I bought in hook, line and sinker on optics, despite being able to shoot the Shadow faster and more accurately with iron sights than I could with the optic Combat Tupperware Sig. Both are great guns, but in my humble option and experience, the Shadow 2 rules supreme and the optic, once I get that adapter plate for it, the optic ready Shadow 2 will be equally as amazing. The people that are still resisting the Kool-Aid...... just suck it up and swallow.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
@bacawaka2813
@bacawaka2813 4 жыл бұрын
I have a X5. I am currently using the fire control assembly for the guts for my EDC gun. I really want the CZ Shadow even though it will be just a range toy.
@esfahan1961
@esfahan1961 5 жыл бұрын
I own both a P226 X-Five and a Sphinx 3000 Competition with Docter red dot. Both fantastic guns although the Sphinx feels lighter and smoother on the range. I added the optional 300g front weight on the X-Five to reacquire target faster in speed shooting and it’s definitely a plus.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That from weight sounds very cool! I may have to give that a try. Thank you and cheers!
@leonardosilva2751
@leonardosilva2751 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the front weight for the x five legion for sale ? Thanks
@eddiet204
@eddiet204 5 жыл бұрын
I own both of these. As far as competition guns, the CZ dominates the X5. Its not even close. As an all round defensive gun, the X5 would be my choice simply because it doesn’t weigh 47 ounces and I see it more as a tool.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on and I agree! Thank you and cheers!
@jamesharris184
@jamesharris184 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for yr expertise.
@mototime8975
@mototime8975 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought my X-five yesterday and definitely considered the shadow 2. Lets talk price... I paid $665 for the Sig and they threw in 3 boxes of Sig Vcrown JHP. Shadow 2 running @ $1499. Hmmm CZ was over double the price, so hell yeah I bought the Sig. can’t really compare the two when the price is that dramatically different period!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
The X5 is awesome indeed! Great price as well. Thank you and cheers!
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel 3 жыл бұрын
From what I recall, these days, the X5 comes with 4 mags, 21rd each, while X5 Legion comes with 3 mags, 17rd each. I recently got X5 Legion and it came with 3 mags, 17 rd each only, and I been finding in the recent years that's how its always been now. Its a bit sad. I'm a new gun owner from Mar 2020 and own AccuShadow 2 instead of CZ Shadow 2, although I'd love to get one to pair with the AccuShadow 2. I also have Sig X5-Legion. Gotta say I'm pretty pleased with both of them. CZ over Sig any day. CZ is world champ. Sig is National champ but a pretty good competitor with CZ, but CZ is in a world of its own like othres have said.
@SonneCreations
@SonneCreations 6 жыл бұрын
I have both. Two Shadows (one Optic Ready) and just bought the X5. Stoked for the Optics.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Thank you and cheers!
@KeanonGilliamSlang369
@KeanonGilliamSlang369 6 жыл бұрын
Really good comparison review!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Keanon! Cheers brother!
@basti080891
@basti080891 6 жыл бұрын
Easy, Shadow 2! Friend of mine has one and i'm hitting steel at 200 with this thing even it's not my gun. Will be my next buy!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome shooting at 200! Thank you and cheers!
@ChristofferEricsater
@ChristofferEricsater 6 жыл бұрын
CZ is only on the production devision for competition though... however, if one choose to compete in the production devision how do you think the CZ will do in Precision shooting vs its’ original target group: Dynamic shooting? Will it be as good in pure precision shooting competitions compared to Sig or others?
@RoofKorean2
@RoofKorean2 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Erics my shadow 2 is extremely accurate I can get sub 1 inch groups from a rest at 25 yards but if you really want to shoot accurate with a CZ get a tactical sport or TS orange they have a 5.5 inch barrel and a sub 2 pound trigger out the box and are more accurate than my sti 2011
@ChristofferEricsater
@ChristofferEricsater 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Duyck if one can get one-two inch close shots one handed, when it would be accurate... using a rest to any gun and one will eventually hit the sweet spot. In precision shooting we do not use any rests and on 30 yards one always use one hand.
@theoracleprodigy
@theoracleprodigy Жыл бұрын
Just rented the shadow 2 this weekend. It's a cheat code for great shooting. I am also kicking myself for not buying it over the sig 229 legion.
@brettheiner7125
@brettheiner7125 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not even a close one for me. Love my S2... will probably pick up the Legion version of the X-Five... it seems pretty nice
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@EdlundInside
@EdlundInside 5 жыл бұрын
CZ Shadow 2 owns. Those of you that have not had the pleasure in shooting it, will be impressed. It has to be one of the best pistols I have ever shot. I first fell in love with the CZ 75B, but the shadow 2 becomes the favorite. It will be difficult to beat the shadow 2.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
@AF-O6
@AF-O6 5 жыл бұрын
It’s nice owning both of these, plus the Walther Q5, the G34, XDM 5.25, and a few more. Long barrel 9mm target pistols are just plain fun....but for the funnest shooting toy of all, it’s hard to beat the Shadow 2. I’ve owned a few P226 X5s, USP Experts, an SVI, and a couple P210s. Some (most) have been lighter, prettier, or more collectible, but none have been more shootable for me than the Shadow 2.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! A great collection indeed. I do agree that it's tough to beat the Shadow 2 though. Thank you and cheers!
@larrykeene4733
@larrykeene4733 4 жыл бұрын
OK, I've watched a few of these videos and have kind of an off the wall question. What's with the little pirouette the target holder does?
@zkolich88
@zkolich88 4 жыл бұрын
I ask myself this every damn time I go to that range. I personally find it annoying and a waste of time.
@cjmoore7240
@cjmoore7240 6 жыл бұрын
As always AWESOME video! I am confused why I did not get this video until today. But either way as always FANTASTIC review! Even before your conclusion I KNEW you were going to pick the CZ Shadow 2. I have 4 CZ's and I drunk the CZ Kool-Aid! I had one of my CZ's"Cajunized" by Cajun Gun Works and I "Cajunized" one myself. The ergonomics of the CZ is hard to beat. IMO everyone should had a traditional DA/SA and a Striker Fired Pistol and get good with both. I have a Glock Gen 3 G17 and love it too! Love all my guns...PERIOD! But my ultimate favorite pistol of all my pistols is the CZ SP-01 (cajunized by CGW), As alays great review and KEEP ON ROCKING!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much CJ! It really is tough to beat the Shadow 2. It’s easily one of my all time favorites, lol. Hard to resist the Kool-Aid! Well said about loving all guns. I think many of us do. That SP-01 sounds awesome! Cheers brother!
@joshpittman6021
@joshpittman6021 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t shot the cz but I have shot the sig. I think it’s impossible to miss with the sig so the cz must be an incredible firearm. Very good review
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Both are excellent, but the Shadow is truly amazing. Thank you and cheers!
@sergeant-9
@sergeant-9 4 жыл бұрын
Sig all the way baby 🙌🏽
@jeffzimmerman25
@jeffzimmerman25 6 жыл бұрын
I need some help... Im looking to buy my first CZ mainly for home defense and range. I cant decide between SP01, P01, or P07? Thoughts?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
If it were me, I’d go with the SP01 if it’s for range and home defense. If carry is in your future, you might consider the P01. Thank you and cheers!
@theunchartedtrucker1113
@theunchartedtrucker1113 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting matchup, I definitely voted for the cz right away, but what front sight did you get for your shadow 2? My eyes like green or yellow sights much better than red as well.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Trucker! I use the factory front sight with a green fiber optic. I prefer that over the red. It's a 5 minute swap. Cheers brother!
@SRIxD
@SRIxD 2 жыл бұрын
There also a $500 difference. Sig is a better bang for the buck?
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