Czinger 21C: The World's First Bio-Logic™ Chassis | In-Depth Overview

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@planckstudios
@planckstudios 5 ай бұрын
You gotta release a special edition w/ a transparent body panels and subtle internal lighting to show off that chassis
@chitteshsham965
@chitteshsham965 5 ай бұрын
thats the greatest idea for a car livery ever!!!
@shrimpinpat
@shrimpinpat 5 ай бұрын
gameboy color clear purple
@mrfarax4944
@mrfarax4944 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god that would be a work of art. I would literally be fixated on a car like that i wouldn't be able to help my self
@sugy747
@sugy747 5 ай бұрын
@@shrimpinpat ohhh yeaaaah
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios 5 ай бұрын
Well, there *_IS_* transparent aluminum... Not sure if it would provide enough structure/rigidity though.
@tiltshiftvis
@tiltshiftvis 5 ай бұрын
you can tell this kid loves the manufacturing process a whole lot more than the car itself, which i can respect. talking was kinda broken up until he started talking about their technology and then he really started to shine
@mrfarax4944
@mrfarax4944 5 ай бұрын
Green Flag for an engineer
@jodyjohnstein
@jodyjohnstein 5 ай бұрын
Kid I'm sure he loves that
@tiltshiftvis
@tiltshiftvis 5 ай бұрын
@@jodyjohnstein those are certainly words
@jodyjohnstein
@jodyjohnstein 5 ай бұрын
@@tiltshiftvis yeah I def thought he was the owner lol
@RockSleeper
@RockSleeper 4 ай бұрын
This kid loves word salad technobabble. Vast majority of what he said was misleading marketing fluff. massive cringe.
@matthewpauls2498
@matthewpauls2498 5 ай бұрын
"you couldnt take a gram of material out of this chassis" oxidation and abrasion: allow us to introduce ourselves
@av2245
@av2245 5 ай бұрын
Still doesnt make it not true.
@KK001
@KK001 5 ай бұрын
Probably factored into the calculation. Aluminium doesnt oxidize that much anyway for it to matter.
@vigisbigtm
@vigisbigtm 5 ай бұрын
There's an FOS aka factor of safety that engineers take into account while making calculations. So things are slightly over engineered and under the conditions it is supposed to experience, it should not fail.
@lucassganderlla7305
@lucassganderlla7305 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the intent of their statement is: "you couldn't take a gram of material out of this chassis without violating a constraint in our optimization"
@jurekgadzinowski2895
@jurekgadzinowski2895 5 ай бұрын
​@@lucassganderlla7305I am sure thats what it means. Because it definitely isnt on the edge of falling apart or folding in half.
@Pertev777
@Pertev777 5 ай бұрын
Finally, someone did it. Always imagined near skeleton like biomechanicly structure. Now we have it and its amazing
@Acheiropoietos
@Acheiropoietos 5 ай бұрын
Just don’t damage it.
@2012listo
@2012listo 5 ай бұрын
Biomechanicly? For seriulz?
@86red-ch
@86red-ch 5 ай бұрын
The new Bugatti as the same kind of structure (on some pieces at least)
@KG-zw8sc
@KG-zw8sc 5 ай бұрын
@@2012listo 17 years from today, this will look like a kit car made from lego's.... sorry
@nalakirkwood4425
@nalakirkwood4425 5 ай бұрын
Agree. It seems only logical to use bio mimicry to achieve insane mechanical strength, high level safety, and with very low weight and cost. Insects are the perfect example. Once someone cracks the code to manufacture this way at huge scale, machines are going to be truly beautiful and functional.
@nuduw
@nuduw 5 ай бұрын
Rebranding generative design as Bio-Logic eh
@fretstain
@fretstain 5 ай бұрын
haha I was about to come in with a similar comment
@iampozyman
@iampozyman 5 ай бұрын
Mark-Eting
@steveg2277
@steveg2277 5 ай бұрын
Low hanging fruit is easy to pick.
@ashishgejo2147
@ashishgejo2147 4 ай бұрын
Bio mimetic generative design
@sqlevolicious
@sqlevolicious 4 ай бұрын
they are rich conartists and investor scammers that evade the law
@tomrogo87
@tomrogo87 4 ай бұрын
That 88 Mph on the crash test. Awesome easter egg or otherwise a tribute.
@abdulmuhaimin5274
@abdulmuhaimin5274 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Back to the Future reference.
@Michael-oz8kk
@Michael-oz8kk 5 ай бұрын
Groundbreaking approach! Truly impressive-it's cool to see a supercar innovating on the fundamental manufacturing process rather than just playing a numbers game with horsepower/acceleration.
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios 5 ай бұрын
Not quite. Look up the "Divergent Blade" the ground was broken years ago. This is merely an evolution and the first *_publicly_* sold vehicle to use the approach.
@sqlevolicious
@sqlevolicious 4 ай бұрын
It's not groundbreaking by any measure, tons of supercars already incorporate these engineering and design philosophies.
@wayneracingdriver8173
@wayneracingdriver8173 5 ай бұрын
What a beautiful machine, great work Lukas!
@dannyking7338
@dannyking7338 5 ай бұрын
Christian Von Koenigsegg has finally got some competition in regard to manufacturing!
@KonragTheDestroyer
@KonragTheDestroyer 5 ай бұрын
Czinger can be the next Koenigsegg rival and the new Nilu27 car too possibly.
@lovelehstuff
@lovelehstuff 5 ай бұрын
​@@KonragTheDestroyer they even supply parts on the tourbillion they're like the combination of rimac and koenigsegg
@jacobkuriakosegmail
@jacobkuriakosegmail 5 ай бұрын
Exactly 😅
@PS3TEKKENLORD
@PS3TEKKENLORD 5 ай бұрын
As for manufacturing yes the GHOST has some competition but as far as performance NOT YET the KOENIGSEGG line of vehicles is on another level and I use to hate KOENIGSEGG cars until I got the opportunity to drive a KOENIGSEGG and race it a track in NEVADA😊
@lilshax7297
@lilshax7297 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@lovelehstuffwhere does Czinger supply Bugatti from 🤨 ? They use the same 3D printing technology and it stop here
@sharkdavid
@sharkdavid 5 ай бұрын
This is my first interaction with the company. Most impressive.
@Voodoo_Robot
@Voodoo_Robot 4 ай бұрын
Your first hwat?
@josephjones4293
@josephjones4293 5 ай бұрын
You can’t call it sustainable if even a minor fender bender is going to total the entire chassis… causing large sections to be completely replaced. When the production method uses more energy than traditional extrusions or composites do to make. Sustainability is a overall measurement not just a measure of material/weight reduction I thought this was beautiful when it was a concept ages ago, but the amount of corporate bs speak he just word souped completely changed my opinion on the car.
@sqlevolicious
@sqlevolicious 4 ай бұрын
this is an investor scam, not a real project
@SizzleCorndog
@SizzleCorndog 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, an this might be insider knowledge from the polymer industry, but there is a lot of research going on rn thats showing ways to create composites that are recyclable. In effect reclaiming the resin that is coating something like carbon fiber, while leaving the carbon fiber untouched. On top of that there's work being done looking into the actual chemical processes of manufacturing composites to find ways of making them more sustainable. Like rn the process of actually making carbon fiber is not completely understood and thats an area where a lot of people are turning their eyes in terms of research.
@aquaguy2938
@aquaguy2938 5 ай бұрын
We need more people and companies like these. Go on !
@narcissus5970
@narcissus5970 5 ай бұрын
This video randomly popped up on my feed and its simply amazing. This is a work of art, Im totally speechless ngl. Im currently studying materials engineering, and seeing how you guys combined all of those different materials and alloys, exploring new shapes, simply amazing! Id love to work on cars like this someday. Maybe one day Ill get lucky and get a job in the car industry haha, pushing it forward into the future, like you guys do. Great job!!
@65hi863dhyu
@65hi863dhyu 2 ай бұрын
Nothing like this. Absolutely brilliant.
@geulach
@geulach 5 ай бұрын
Only said "sustainable" 4 times 👏 well done! hope that gets your investors wet. Get us the engineers to talk now.
@freezingicy9457
@freezingicy9457 5 ай бұрын
Fr. This felt just like the rabbit r1 showcase. Insert buzzword buzzword buzzword
@willdarling1
@willdarling1 5 ай бұрын
did they say this is the first chassis? then why do we all already know the word chassis? what is going on?
@markhedquist9597
@markhedquist9597 5 ай бұрын
It's not like this is gonna be a mass produced vehicle. Super high end vehicles for the super rich. They don't care about "sustainability". Why even bother mentioning it?
@Driver_88
@Driver_88 4 ай бұрын
Track records say a lot more than buzz words so far.
@RaspberryMeatsicle
@RaspberryMeatsicle 4 ай бұрын
It's killing most everything in lap time. Less weight = higher performance
@NewCastleIndiana
@NewCastleIndiana 5 ай бұрын
Freaking bravo Czinger people. Standing ovation. It’s an amazing video overview of all the thought you put into that. Also, your Goodwood hill climb was an amazing showcase of what you can do.
@haozhengyuan618
@haozhengyuan618 5 ай бұрын
3D printing is indeed the most material (considering machining) and energy saving manufacturing approch to this, amazing
@asterix...
@asterix... 5 ай бұрын
It finally happened, generative design being used in real production applications! I was wondering when someone would catch on!
@carruntv
@carruntv 5 ай бұрын
Rooting for you guys! Let's go!
@The1MkII
@The1MkII 5 ай бұрын
Really impressive stuff. The chassis is absolutely beautiful, excited to see what this car can do!
@banjogates
@banjogates 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the in-depth review! cool to see something that's pretty different from the rest up close
@1kontrabida
@1kontrabida 5 ай бұрын
Czinger : Perfection imho…Congrats Lukas and the Whole team!
@pete6705
@pete6705 5 ай бұрын
That is awesome. I love when companies build something daring and different like this
@robertojofre15
@robertojofre15 4 ай бұрын
amazing stuff, great work czinger
@thepicklejar7939
@thepicklejar7939 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't seeing the original concept years ago, it wasn't the obvious and unique visual approach to the exterior, it wasn't the groundbreaking use of AI tech, it wasn't the crazy impressive run up Goodwood FOS track, it was this guy saying "Y'all" in his opening of this video. I'm a fan.
@RobertVolmer
@RobertVolmer 4 ай бұрын
Get them pickles out of your ears mate. He says: "Hi all."
@thepicklejar7939
@thepicklejar7939 4 ай бұрын
You must be fun at parties
@sqlevolicious
@sqlevolicious 4 ай бұрын
@@thepicklejar7939 turn your hearing aid up, grandpa.
@thepicklejar7939
@thepicklejar7939 4 ай бұрын
@@sqlevolicious it was a facetious and light hearted comment and you are just a faceless loser lmao
@jackflash6377
@jackflash6377 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding!!! Can't wait to see how it performs. Organic, fluid and the future.
@westxtsew
@westxtsew 5 ай бұрын
Good job leaving humanity behind.
@commanderkeeno5552
@commanderkeeno5552 5 ай бұрын
This is truly amazing! This video is well timed. I’m a designer and I’m looking at designing my own racecar. This design philosophy is exactly what I’m looking for.
@stevenbinum7659
@stevenbinum7659 4 ай бұрын
First part of presentation was a good foundation for intelligent design. Exciting next step in vehicle design.
@Druze_Tito
@Druze_Tito 2 ай бұрын
WOW, I am very impressed!
@gdgavali
@gdgavali 4 ай бұрын
Finally.. this is the next logical step.. i hope atleast now industry will take additive manufacturing seriously..
@vladpootin5973
@vladpootin5973 5 ай бұрын
First thing is first, congratulations on the new record at the fos track, Now, I would like to say, that I am ready for a feature film length documentary about clinger as a company with the focus on its magnificent premier product the 21c.
@Cozy_Haven217
@Cozy_Haven217 5 ай бұрын
Dude didn't know 21c has such impressive chassis . Salute!
@GreddyS14
@GreddyS14 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful chassis, perfect song to match it
@KarlMarch-o5p
@KarlMarch-o5p 5 ай бұрын
This is apex in the field. Hats off
@gmax876
@gmax876 5 ай бұрын
I wish these guys all the best, its an incredible acheivement.
@Slash1066
@Slash1066 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible engineering, truly next level
@cokevspepsi516
@cokevspepsi516 5 ай бұрын
Just incredible, I wish I could be a part of the process.
@carpet8477
@carpet8477 5 ай бұрын
everyone needs to see this video now
@MrLeocars97
@MrLeocars97 4 ай бұрын
It's really fascinating the -25% mass milestone. Despite we could only grasp the difference with a benchmark comparing the same plataform with a non-optimal chassis/skeleton. Ceticism apart, the aerospace industry will love every -1% mass without dimish the structural strengh. Well done
@boing615
@boing615 5 ай бұрын
this weighs 1250kg according to wikipedia which makes it 250kg heavier than Murray's T50 which has an extra seat, and on par with a Lotus Emira, I'm not seeing anything staggering there to be honest.
@CrackedTubeGamer
@CrackedTubeGamer 5 ай бұрын
My 5 seater Fiesta ST weighs around the same.. Not really that impressive for a single Seat now that I think about it.
@gorps
@gorps 5 ай бұрын
​@@CrackedTubeGamernow list the horsepower and downforce numbers lmao
@CrackedTubeGamer
@CrackedTubeGamer 5 ай бұрын
@@gorps Yeah but can you get 5 people in it, a boot for storage and have it survive the UK's pot holes and B roads as you blast venga boys at the early hours of Monday morning which pretty much starts you in a race with the nearest shit box?
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 5 ай бұрын
Murray won most if not all the gains in the beginning by starting small size and focusing on old school basics. The Czinger is revolutionary but it's still bigger than a T50S
@ToniLee2000
@ToniLee2000 5 ай бұрын
The Murray T50 has around 700 hp. The Czingrr has combined around 1250 or 1350 hp. That's a huge difference.
@boo5628
@boo5628 5 ай бұрын
You guys should offer a “bare bones” trim level that comes with no body, doors, or exterior paneling, only needed panels to protect components. This looks stunning.
@yaroshoe
@yaroshoe 5 ай бұрын
Дуже круто, вітаю, буду за Вами слідкувати.
@MaciusSzwed
@MaciusSzwed 5 ай бұрын
Futuristic to say the least! Wish you good luck with production and sales. Much cooler and lighter than a K-egg.
@-00SSS-
@-00SSS- 5 ай бұрын
It looks so organic, that's really cool!!
@halecj1
@halecj1 5 ай бұрын
Wow, impressed! I was getting concerned about things like corrosion weakening critical joints, but seems you are trying to alleviate that as much as possible by your alloy choices. Also was going to ask how feasible it would be to print a beefier version for someone that didn't need a full-on 'light as a feather' racecar, but then you answered that too. Very interested to see where this goes!
@IRAMBOI
@IRAMBOI 2 ай бұрын
So, you crash / have a bump and replace the entire thing?
@akshaymurukate7163
@akshaymurukate7163 5 ай бұрын
this is revolutionary
@mw6563
@mw6563 4 ай бұрын
Generative Design (AI) in practice. Well done.
@davvehallberg
@davvehallberg 5 ай бұрын
Really cool, saw you at the GFOS the car looks great and I hope you sell enough to see what the future holds for Czinger!
@luislebronaponte2737
@luislebronaponte2737 5 ай бұрын
Lookin' real nice. Can't wait to drive it in Forza and/or Gran Turismo.
@JosesRadley
@JosesRadley 5 ай бұрын
The people who know about 3d modeling complicated geometries and knowledgeable technically combined, understands each piece of sections in that car chassis. Its not about you know how to do 3d modeling it's the continuity and should work with each other. Failing to do so the rest of components will not fit each other and fail. And you do it again by scratch. Its amazing how we technologically advance today. I hope someday Artificial Intelligence helps us in streamlining the workflow and let us focus in doing the important things.
@AtmaShinobi2
@AtmaShinobi2 4 ай бұрын
Just found out about you! Amazing vehicles, as an admirer of the SR-71 I'll be needing the Blackbird edition.
@MyGreenTimeMachine
@MyGreenTimeMachine 5 ай бұрын
Yamaha OX-99 a long time favourite. And now a good looking modern rethink in the 21C. 👍
@rev3
@rev3 5 ай бұрын
Can it hold the torque of 2000whps? Or will it get a broken arm
@SentinelAerospaceOfficial
@SentinelAerospaceOfficial 3 ай бұрын
its good and all but how do you propose to mass manufacture a shape that complex
@En1Gm4A
@En1Gm4A 5 ай бұрын
Seems like optimization taken further than before - quite impressive
@DarioushAryan
@DarioushAryan 5 ай бұрын
Finally, someone did it... bravoo
@06howea1
@06howea1 5 ай бұрын
I knew someone would eventually do this: Bravo.
@Atreal23
@Atreal23 5 ай бұрын
I would buy this in heart beat
@imagineiffcom
@imagineiffcom 5 ай бұрын
Aside from the amazing car, Czinger is just a cool name, memorable. Much success to you
@EddieRicks-i8v
@EddieRicks-i8v 5 ай бұрын
This car looks great 👍
@EliasGhost-zd8px
@EliasGhost-zd8px 5 ай бұрын
It’s really amazing 👏🏾
@thomasmoustakas51
@thomasmoustakas51 5 ай бұрын
If the complete body is unified, how do you replace a part of it in case of an accident where for example a mere 5% of the chassis is damaged? As dope as it looks, it will probably struggle to find market share out of the hypercar community. Maybe try formula1
@yakirfrankoveig8094
@yakirfrankoveig8094 4 ай бұрын
In the video it seems like their parts are still seperate as i understand it its just that all the parts have been generated simultanously to alltogether fit the constraints
@HammaamHudzaifah
@HammaamHudzaifah 5 ай бұрын
how do you measure safety?
@akhilsankar
@akhilsankar 5 ай бұрын
Looks like how someone love hobby grade rc attempted to pursue all the passion into a race care grade concept ❤
@dantepagano5247
@dantepagano5247 4 ай бұрын
Nice add but i aint sawallowing it, time for some facts: This is a 2 MILLON dollar car with 1250HP and 1250Kg, the ultima RS is a 200k usd car with 1200Hp and 930Kg, so no this guy is not even near of being a game changer.
@Minatory-Skinless-Skinwalker
@Minatory-Skinless-Skinwalker 4 ай бұрын
Might as well get the McMurtry
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 4 ай бұрын
You really don't think before you speak, do you?
@sirinath
@sirinath 4 ай бұрын
Any ideas to build off road?
@En1Gm4A
@En1Gm4A 5 ай бұрын
i wonder if you have a optimization function running for the whole car development process? i want to see a video of that takeing place - evolution of the costfunction over time seem amazing
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 5 ай бұрын
This looks amazing
@jesseallan3886
@jesseallan3886 5 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that you are going to make some amazing cars in your life if you are already making these so young.
@N1ghtH4wk86
@N1ghtH4wk86 5 ай бұрын
Does it have cup holders?
@Forshledian
@Forshledian 5 ай бұрын
How does a kid become the COO of a super car company? how does he get funding? I am going to have to research this.
@greatdara
@greatdara 5 ай бұрын
Definitely, Please share some results?
@nate7243
@nate7243 4 ай бұрын
son of the owner
@BradKwfc
@BradKwfc 4 ай бұрын
He went bare feet to the investors' meeting, and they suddenly regarded him as a genius.
@leonardoaubert
@leonardoaubert 4 ай бұрын
Daddy is Israel
@Bronilli
@Bronilli 3 ай бұрын
@@leonardoauberthuh
@LibreImpacto
@LibreImpacto 4 ай бұрын
Wholistic generative design has a lot of promise but I wonder about serviceability- Are you able to define access areas and tool clearances in your parameters?
@sanketgopale1937
@sanketgopale1937 5 ай бұрын
is it possible to mass produce these parts at fast pace? 🤔
@bentuovila5296
@bentuovila5296 3 ай бұрын
No, it's going to be for small run hyper cars like this for the foreseeable future.
@maciejzastawny88
@maciejzastawny88 5 ай бұрын
I just realized that all grate engineers creations are the best when they take inspiration from nature, because nature is perfect. God is really a master engineer, perfect creator. 🙏
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully will come with both EV and hshift ICE drive trains, one for ultimate speed, the other for the ultimate driving connection. After all when G.Murray asked the GMA sales department how many T.50 customers wanted hshift, the answer was "Yes!".
@Raikovsr
@Raikovsr 4 ай бұрын
I am interested in what the generative design to manufacture process actually is. Off the top of my head, I imagine that a program like Matlab takes in all of the required parameters from a database (for max and min size, mass, material, torsional rigidity etc) and then outputs the optimal solution as a mesh in a STEP file format, which is then passed to a high end CAD program (like CATIA v6 or Siemens NX) for a CAD technician to "trace" around and optimise it for manufacture. Then the 3D CAD file is exported to a 3D metal sintering machine. I might be completely wrong of course and there may be one single program which can do all of this! Either way, it is super interesting.
@sebastianarganaraz2879
@sebastianarganaraz2879 5 ай бұрын
When I think in ground breaking high performance car makers, only 3 names came up to my mind, Pagani, koenigsegg and this guy, imagine the 3 merging their technology and expertise, wow!
@kevin-haggerty
@kevin-haggerty 5 ай бұрын
My goodness!! I would love to come out to you guys and do a piece on you and the company!
@thunderdemonlover
@thunderdemonlover 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much par
@bonfocchi
@bonfocchi 4 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@cingkole7893
@cingkole7893 5 ай бұрын
You guys should be partnered with Artec to make your intake and exhaust manifolds!
@Torrezno420
@Torrezno420 5 ай бұрын
Topology optimization + 3D printing 👏
@PritamSonkusare
@PritamSonkusare 5 ай бұрын
Thats mind blowing
@pedroamadomendes7386
@pedroamadomendes7386 5 ай бұрын
What software are they using for optimization
@JohnBrown-ff6ez
@JohnBrown-ff6ez 2 ай бұрын
*VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION!. **#KUDOS*
@jarnosaarinen4583
@jarnosaarinen4583 5 ай бұрын
Fastest Production Car up Goodwood Hill, Nuff Said!
@felixstoik4284
@felixstoik4284 3 ай бұрын
Sustainability is about using a Toyota Yaris in a shared way, rather than producing a supercar that costs 150 times more, carries half as many passengers, and is driven only a fraction of the time. Nevertheless, engineering is amazing!
@dimapaska2957
@dimapaska2957 Ай бұрын
Fully agree
@wokerobot3183
@wokerobot3183 4 ай бұрын
Can I please have the 3d print files to print a scaled-down version of this, actually?
@Lowdo1549
@Lowdo1549 3 ай бұрын
“First time this had ever been done” McLaren monocell from the 12-C would like a word 😂😂
@Berenvacht
@Berenvacht 4 ай бұрын
Fucking amazing, finally something really fundamentally new!
@valeriotibaldo71
@valeriotibaldo71 5 ай бұрын
the music in the start of the video is "grounded" by Jameson Nathan Jones
@zacharyzane1638
@zacharyzane1638 5 ай бұрын
I love this vehicle. I want this and a McMurty Speirling for my daily driver's
@JJs_playground
@JJs_playground 5 ай бұрын
What a beauty.
@GrulbGL
@GrulbGL 5 ай бұрын
i want to deep learn generative design and work with that, it is deffinitelly my interest.
@TGKProductions358
@TGKProductions358 5 ай бұрын
It would be amazing to be a part of this paradigm shift. I would love to have this capability to optimize
@richardike2342
@richardike2342 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic engineering, Lucas. I see the future of automotive production in this vehicle. However Lucas, it would help if you put more energy into your presentation. Nevertheless, with the aerodynamic configuration of the Czinger 21c, l believe that it could reach 300mph top speed, if given more power.
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios 5 ай бұрын
No wonder this looks like a sexier version of the blade... Nice! 😎
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