Coraline: The History of the Ghost Children | Horror History

[@stunstarstudio3473]

I find the history of these characters very interesting. I’ve never read the book and the only way of me knowing the story of Coraline is through the Stop motion animated movie. I have a character history suggestion of another character from Coraline. Could you possibly go over the history of the cat from Coraline? 🐱

[@HulaHoopQueen]

Read the book, it's a totally different experience from the movie. It's even spookier than the film.

[@whawhawhawhaaaa]

I personally prefer the film, but I feel the film and novel are completely different experience. The book captures more of a childhood horror, akin to walking down a dark hallway as a small kid, while the film captures the feeling of a child being diminished and belittled. They feel completed different. Same story, different feel.

[@THEBESTBIRD-hp8zr]

@@whawhawhawhaaaa technically different layout of the story like she went to the other world more in the movie in book a while escapes comes back to save souls 2 visits in book 4 in movie

[@thatdemon_overthere]

Oh my god, YES! Do the cats history!!!

[@yeehaw3020]

You can download it with Zlibrary it’s what I did

[@mrx4022]

_"She spied on our lives, through the little dolls eyes"_ _"and saw that we weren't happy"_ _"so she lured us away, with treasures, and treats, and games to play"_ _"gave us all that we asked, but we still wanted more"_ _"so we let her sow, the buttons"_ _"she said that she loved us, but she locked us here, and ate up our lives"_

[@athenaceladina8455]

I love these Lines for some odd Reason- like these lines just Slap-

[@Anna-fm1if]

Love that for u Tom

[@17chances]

How’s pottah going Tom? XD

[@madisonsalathe2592]

Hey Voldie 😜😏

[@ninamedakovic3298]

who would've thought that voldy loves coraline

[@BryceEdwardBrown]

Honestly, I still don't feel like we have enough Coraline videos on this channel

[@osberswgaming]

Completely agree

[@Dompiedom]

Bruuuh

[@wham1984]

Yeah

[@JoeMama-kj7bq]

Sí, when he puts more than he did about the Purge and Final Destination combined, maybe I'll be satisfied.

[@markeythe_dragon2017]

Right with ya

[@Hessed3712]

Why is the Tall Girl’s face stricken with horror? The other children look very sad but she looks terrified. That really freaks me out.

[@charliutley3363]

I HAD NIGHTMARES

[@silyknow]

@Auggie Calderon 😳😭

[@aliway4136]

@Auggie Calderon well that's a disturbing theory😳😳

[@noone3305]

@Auggie Calderon the tall ghost looks a bit older than the other two. in the book she’s also smarter than the others and provides the most exposition. perhaps, like coraline, she quickly became aware of the beldam’s tricks and tried to get away but failed and had the buttons forcefully sewn into her.

[@mara_q9979]

@@noone3305 god that’s terrifying

[@shonkgobonk]

I love Coraline so much. I was terrified of it when I was younger, then came to love it

[@chickenwings6745]

I was never scared? I thought it was cool and rather weird. When I was 8 or something I watched it for the first time. Sheeeesh well I love scary stuff for a long time so maybe that why. I watch it every year a billons of time and now my sisters kids loves watching it....I’m lying only her daughter likes it, not her son💀 sheeeesh BUT ITS FUNNY TO MAKE HIM SCARED THO.

[@shonkgobonk]

@@chickenwings6745 I was terrified of spiders and had a lot of lalaloopsie dolls that also had button eyes, so that spooked me more since I always thought they would try and do the same as coralines doll-

[@froddylabella]

Still terrifying lol especially at night

[@angiet7380]

@@chickenwings6745 you're really good at not sounding cocky about not being scared as a kid. Couldn't have said it better myself

[@Meli-vi5gc]

I loved this movie since I was 6 idk how. most children are scared of this movie I’m surprised I never was

[@monroerobbins7551]

I remember watching Coraline when I was a kid, and I was scared of being taken. My dad comforted me by saying we’d fight her together, and said, and I quote, “She can’t take two stubborn sons of bitches.” It made me laugh, and feel a lot better.

[@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752]

Your Dad sounds awesome

[@ju2545]

When I get scared I just talk to this boy at school (I shouldn’t be saying his name on YT) that somehow has a way of understanding everything I tell him and he tells me, “It’s all fake, I promise. Don’t worry about it.” Or, “Don’t watch those videos anymore cuz they can come to life.” Idk tho. Not everything is fake ya know.

[@builderbrosinc.8372]

@@ju2545how old are you

[@Neighbor-assistantYN]

The goth ghost girl wasn't eating the flowers. Honeysuckles have a sweet nectar inside, like honey but watery. Most kids pull the flute/straw like shaped flowers off the vine, break off the ends and suck the nectar out, hence the name Honeysuckles.

[@sanitycaycay2507]

No, she was eating them. The goth girl is a fairy. There's references in the book to her flying and having wings.

[@VerneditheSnail]

@@sanitycaycay2507 She must have been a Changeling then. A child swapped as an infant by fairies for one of their own. Thus, the Beldam consumed the soul of a Changeling, which must have had powerful magical properties.

[@deadrat66]

I used to do that too lmao

[@Anonymous_Gambito]

I do that with hibiscus

[@wildfire9280]

@@VerneditheSnail can't believe the beldam consumed the soul of an mlp character, smh

[@ahsuimei]

I’m at a cross between wanting a live action Coraline to leaving it alone because the animated movie was already so fearful and perfect.

[@j.s.2281]

It's also more terrifying thinking about how badly they can make a live action movie. Lol

[@flameohotman1782]

Why are you still conflicted? Your argument against it is irrefutable lol

[@justinathompson6982]

Coraline was actually supposed to be live action

[@ruki4585]

Yes

[@youtuberwannabe4732]

If you think about it, the stop motion movie is in a way live action, since stop motion is achieved by taking pictures of actual real-life objects.

[@freebird264]

"My grandma, she owns the Pink Palace, won't rent to people with kids." I love that Wylie's grandma took revenge against the Beldam by buying the house and refusing any kids to stay so that she could starve the Beldam to death of her food source. She probably thought that the Beldam was dead by now, hence why she left Coraline stay.

[@livingwithautism3789]

“My grandma, she owns the Pink Palace, won’t rent to people with kids.” I love that Wylie’s grandma took revenge against the Beldam

[@JohnWall-lj1mx]

She was very close to killing her off the beldam was clearly starving for the most of the movie if she had waited a couple more years or even a couple more months given how thin and desperate the beldam is by the end she would have 100% starved to death

[@MiamiGameHunter]

Actually, I think it’s mentioned in the movie that she was forced to let the Jones family stay there because of a court order. After all, the grandmother couldn’t exactly say that there was an evil monster kidnapping kids.

[@KatalinaAudios444]

@@MiamiGameHunterin the movie they also say that her parents didn’t mention having a daughter, she probably thought it was just a couple moving in

[@Lopeznunez2230]

I read a theory that said that the reason she let Coraline's parents rent the house was because she sensed the Beldam was targeting Wybie (is that how you spell it?), or was going to target him, or she feared so or something, but she let Coraline's family move in to keep the Beldam's attention away from her grandson

[@Adog00]

I absolutely love coraline. It wouldn’t be as good if it wasn’t stop motion

[@ClockWithoutNumbers]

Yeah you're right nowadays everything that wasn't live action is live action

[@CZsWorld]

There's something about it that lends itself well to horror.

[@kingdenas9103]

@@CZsWorld hi

[@tonypeppermint5329]

@@CZsWorld Yep.

[@i_der2612]

Stop motion animation creeps the heck out of me, it always have, often times I cannot watch some stop motion animation movies because it makes my skin crawl too much, but some of them, like Coraline, is such a perfect balance that creeps me out, without triggering my Anxieties.

[@bella-mccord]

the addition of wybie's great aunt made the whole vibe of Coraline much more upsetting to me (in a good way, if that makes sense...?). While it never scared me, it always made me sad to think about the children who lost their lives. And i think the idea of losing not only a sister but a twin really broke my heart when i was younger. It has always stuck with me more than it should lol but really love it.

[@thisdreamisntfeelingsweet3161]

I wonder why only one of Wybies aunts were taken why didn’t the other mother make a double sided doll like she did for Coralines parents to get both and that way the twins could’ve been the 2 lady’s and she could’ve used the other body for the rat man in the attic.

[@teapartypenguin1353]

@@thisdreamisntfeelingsweet3161 I think Wybie's grandmother knew something was up before her sister. In the picture of the two of them, Wybie's grandmother is looking at the doll with a worried/suspicious look. I think she never trusted the other world from the get go, so never entered the door. If both twins went, they may have thought together and realized something was wrong. Isolating one twin by making her feel special and important was probably safer than being greedy and going for both.

[@djdomain]

@@teapartypenguin1353 This, or they both went in, but Wybie's granny didn't trust the Other Mother. Since she refused to rent to people with children, she might know that the Other Mother only targets kids, and it's possible that her sister was buttoned whilst they were both there, meaning she had to escape whilst the Beldam actively hunted her.

[@boomboomboom32]

Same, I used too be an identical twin so it hit me pretty hard too

[@KingOfGaymes]

It’s his grandmother, not aunt >.

[@robertdochter277]

In the (authorized) graphic novel adaptation of Coraline the "goth ghost girl" is actually a Fae. This is presented by a pair of thin wings in her back. It also explains why she eats flowers, which some of the Fair Folk consume. I also believe there is a passage in the book where she describes her people living long before humans had ever existed.

[@mothersandfuckersofthejury5416]

and she’s flying

[@sstaralien]

So then there was only 2?

[@cramerfloro5936]

In the novel she's also described with wings but, as she only appears in a dream, Coraline never questions her nature, and she's never called anything like fae or fairy.

[@oliviapayne4983]

When it says nibbling a honeysuckle, I imagined her doing what was common for children to do with honeysuckles where I’m from. You’d pull the stem through the flower and nibble the nectar that came out. I could be wrong, but that’s how I interpreted it.

[@tesslichtman7302]

But in the movie, all three ghosts were humans.

[@yuigirl2]

Well that rat song was the creepiest thing I’ve ever heard 😂

[@lpspinkylollipop]

I listened for myself and the song was fucking terrifying

[@kimoralashai692]

i skipped it in now scared

[@riley315]

time stamp??

[@oIivia3913]

@@riley315 6:49

[@lpspinkylollipop]

@@oIivia3913 Actually it’s 6:50

[@ClockWithoutNumbers]

Could you imagine what would have happened if she never opened that door.

[@angelgon06]

Kinda

[@cresent2022]

it wouldn't be interesting 😃

[@ClockWithoutNumbers]

@@cresent2022 true and she could have become like her parents

[@LunarLilz]

Those poor ghost fools

[@reanawashington7559]

Nothing the beldam would either die or before that get a new victim

[@ghostlygremlin]

Tbh I was so scared of the tall ghost girl, she just scared me so much (I'm not scared of her anymore but the way her face looks scares me a little)

[@lupitaa5420]

I wonder why her face looks distorted? Like it’s stretched and her mouth is open and she looks terrified

[@M0RGUEGIRL]

@@lupitaa5420 I think she was screaming in pain when the beldam was sewing buttons in her eyes, I honestly don’t know

[@ravenID429]

Yeah it always scared me when she came right at the screen when they were talking about the buttons

[@ugimp1659]

@Venti exactly bc the beldam ate her and she was screaming

[@ugimp1659]

@Venti by got her soul u mean ate her soul? bc the ghost themselves said the beldam ate up there lives

[@blackmetal_lover]

I don’t know why, but I’ve always loved how the ghost children don’t move smoothly. How you can see duplicates of them in each frame when they float around. I don’t know if that was intentional or because the movie is stop motion but I think it’s cool

[@kingdenas9103]

I got 2 notifications: Pewdiepie and CZsWorld *you already know which I clicked*

[@emmarisby]

Omg me too 😂

[@The155thbird]

Czworld

[@miel_riv3rs]

Good point CZsWorld doesn't post every day unlike Pewdiepie

[@ximenaguadalupe2027]

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@cookiegacha2701]

My dad:This looks like a good kid friendly mo- Few minutes later Me 5 years old: *Enjoying the movie* My dad:😨

[@Hellopiano-tp4tj]

lol

[@cookiegacha2701]

@@Hellopiano-tp4tj True story

[@sofvpgn]

lmao

[@fartripper7598]

My mom told me that she thought it was a nice animated kids movie, but then actually saw it 😳 my mom likes that kind of stuff tho so she didn’t mind

[@cookiegacha2701]

@@fartripper7598 I like your mom now

[@andrewturner4375]

not going to lie "song of the rats" is a bop

[@magicvampirelver1321]

Lol

[@thebtchthathikes1008]

KODAK BLACK 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😭😁.

[@billyjoel5189]

“ we have tAiLeS”

[@lux7465]

💀🤚

[@Userpwoe]

Put it on Tik tok and y’all finna find a remix the next day 😭😭

[@simplysam1460]

*Me finally getting out of my Coraline phase* Czs: *"I'm about to ruin this man's whole career"*

[@HI-bp1xt]

Fr I was so obsessed with coraline and I even made a oc that was wybies sister 😂😭

[@simplysam1460]

@@HI-bp1xt Omg that's amazing- I legit have a Coraline mug I bought a year ago

[@HI-bp1xt]

@@simplysam1460 girl same😭✋🏿 it has the other mother on it

[@erins3609]

@@HI-bp1xt I have the same mug 💀

[@jhvpeful9854]

the ghost children will forever creep the hell out of me no matter how many times i’ve seen the movie but again it’s sad cause they couldn’t make it out like coraline..alive i mean

[@ugimp1659]

actually they did i think bc like coraline got there eyes so does that mean there back to there bodies alive?

[@mara_q9979]

@@ugimp1659 no, they moved on to the afterlife. Some of them were there for centuries.

[@ugimp1659]

@@mara_q9979 ohhh so just there soul was freed? the wybies aunt was the most recent one before coraline right

[@eliannaxiong]

@@ugimp1659 no I’m pretty sure their souls were eaten

[@melissawinn996]

Their used 2 scare me when I was a little kid 😂😂😭

[@MJexe]

In the beginning of coraline wybie said the well was so deep you’ll see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day....so the other mother just got her hand back👹🤌🏽

[@kathleenvalencia8909]

OMG her hand and the key !!!

[@emilys9498]

I’m sorry can you explain it

[@venixxious9274]

Don’t get it pls explain

[@mara_q9979]

You mean the well wasn’t that deep right? Given enough time the hand could simply crawl back out?

[@shykurata5736]

I think they mean is that the well is so deep that its a portal to the other world. Since the other world is total opposite to the real world.

[@littlewillowlinda]

I love that Neil gaiman gave it that extra thought and attention by doing research to place these characters at different times. It's like finding an Easter egg 🥲

[@lauratude5132]

The "Goth Ghost Girl" seems very fairy like in the book. I don't know why. The whole thing looks like a child's feverish dream with visceral fears like being abandoned. Every child is scared of their parents leaving and never coming back.

[@ladiesman217sun-luc-dong5]

If this was turned into a live action remake, it would be super terrifying!

[@Dr.freakinstein]

It actually was originally going to be live action. Not sure why they changed it though

[@sofvpgn]

ikr-

[@sophieioana19]

I’m hoping so. That Lion King remake was not it 😂

[@Sasha75995]

@@THE_MAD_GOD 28

[@crubs83]

@@THE_MAD_GOD Tim Burton is bound to at some point. It won't beat the original though.

[@Just_niaxx]

Wish we had more knowledge on the ghost children like more background and back story and I wonder they are really going to make a second Coraline

[@sarahsims6164]

I'd honestly rather have a sequel than a live-action remake.

[@onepunch2310]

@@sarahsims6164 is love a prequel for the other victims or a new story with a different child becoming a victim of the belldam

[@billyjoel5189]

@@onepunch2310 same

[@savagedarksider5934]

@@billyjoel5189 Me too(...)

[@imushrooms4011]

They said they arent

[@emmarisby]

Love the Coraline videos. I have a whole shelf of Neil Gaiman books. Hes my favourite author. I had a dream once where I had this long conversation on a sofa and started it with "I loved Coraline" and he just went "Pfft everyone loved Coraline" 😂

[@ayeshasiddique1476]

😂😂

[@destaniedillard1001]

♥️

[@E_Abuddies]

Can you recommend a book that’s as good as Coraline? Lol I haven’t read any other ones cause I just don’t know what to read next

[@softserve7623]

@@E_Abuddies Harry Potter

[@mara_q9979]

@@E_Abuddies The Throne of Glass series, by Sarah J. Maas. It’s YA

[@tjz3158]

This is cool and all but it still doesn't excuse the tall girl for making that face!!! I mean seriously why is she the only one with a horrified face!? She gave me nightmares for weeks.

[@pastelvampxoxo5625]

Wish there were more adventures for Coraline, can't seem to get enough really.

[@spaceunicorn6000]

I believe there's a sequel in the works.

[@quasar7951]

@@spaceunicorn6000 don't do that, don't give me hope

[@mara_q9979]

@@spaceunicorn6000 there isn’t. The creator said he won’t write a sequel until he’s sure it’ll be as good, if not better, than the first one

[@erongranger4675]

@@mara_q9979 I wish there was a prequel actually. About these children and wybie's grandma..maybe even about the beldam itself 🤷🏻‍♀️ wouldn't that be awesome? Bcs the movie doesn't need continuation since it ended perfectly

[@faithruckdeschel1294]

I personally think the little boy was trying to remind Coraline to not only appreciate that she's still alive(there are hauntingly sad lines in the movie that the ghost children say, describing to Coraline how they kept wanting more and taking everything the Beldam gave them but they now regret basically giving no thought that she was planning to kill them)that no matter what, if she gets scared or feels that all is lost she has an important reason to remain strong and not give up....it's for the life she still has life? At least that why I would find comfort in the boy reminding me that "Girl, at least ur still alive....now go and fight for it!"

[@cutieetae3351]

That audiobook sounds very creepy. Those mice 👀

[@bijeuxlux6071]

“She spied on our lives, through the little doll eyes, she saw we weren’t happy. So she lured us away, with treasures and games to play, gave us all we asked, but we still wanted more. So we let her sow the buttons, she said she loved us, but she locked us here, and ate up our lives.”

[@ju2545]

Someone in the comments of one of the Fangirl vids, (I think it’s the Fangirl) said that they mean that she ate up their futures cuz they didn’t live to see them

[@scp767furry3]

@@ju2545 XDDDD 😂

[@sydneyp7867]

I wish they did the picnic dream scene instead of the starry night dream scene :( I get why they didn’t though

[@scp767furry3]

Am I first

[@tayloredwards4968]

Please do a video on the cat. In my opinion he's the most mysterious character in the whole movie

[@sommerfugl7040]

In the movie, the order of children was ghost boy who was born in the late 1700s, the pioneer girl with the long face was born in the 1860s, and the last girl was the twin sister of the owner of the pink palace who was born in the 1930s. There is a theory that another child had their soul used up. The owner of the pink palace had a twin and that twin was the last victim.

[@jonmcinnis1645]

Sommerfugl yeah but here’s what I think the time period’s The ghost children (for the 2009 movie universe) are from for the tall ghost girl 1850s for the ghost boy early 1900s for the sweet ghost girl (aka miss lovat’s sister and Wybie’s great aunt) around the early to mid 1950s those are the time periods I think the ghost children are from

[@tesslichtman7302]

I always thought that the tall ghost girl was first, but the ghost boy uses old English….

[@sommerfugl7040]

@@tesslichtman7302 the original story takes place in Britain, but the movie takes place in the United States.

[@tesslichtman7302]

@@sommerfugl7040 I know. That’s why I don’t like necessarily comparing the book with the movie.

[@PipelinePunch.]

"Making up a song about Coraline, Shes a peach, shes a *DOLL*, shes a pal of mine, shes as cute as a *BUTTON* in the eyes of everyone who ever lied their eyes on Caroline*" im still creeped out about this but i still love the movie.

[@TheAngryHappyMaskSalesman]

I can't even beging to fathom the horror of those poor children's demise. Just imagining their eyes being violently gouged out, and the buttons sewn onto them is a horrific thought, but the fact that the Beldam then broke her pormises and ate them alive as a giant spider... How absolutely terrifying. Coraline was right. Those three poor souls have had faced a most terrible fate.

[@tesslichtman7302]

Yep. How did she even eat them ? Did she eat their souls or their bodies?

[@TheAngryHappyMaskSalesman]

Either way, it must have been painful for those poor children. They couldn't even go beyond upon their deaths, being barred from eternal peace. Had Coraline never came to this world, those ghosts would never have known peace.

[@tesslichtman7302]

@@TheAngryHappyMaskSalesman Indeed. And not only those three ghosts, but imagine the pain that their families must have went through? We don’t know anything about the tall ghost girl and ghost boy’s families, but from what we do know of Ms. Lovat, the experience of losing her sister must have been very traumatic and painful for her.

[@thecookj454]

I'm surprised I watched this movie as a kid. A lot of it flew over my head and never really creeped me out back then. However, the more I watch and read about the story it becomes darker and darker. Coraline is by no means for children...It's really quite disturbing.

[@TheAngryHappyMaskSalesman]

​​@@thecookj454 That is true. Very true. When we take the time to look at the story under a more keen eye, it's truly horrific. The Beldam is already a frightening mystery when you think about her monstrous true form. But the ghost children's last days as the living... I get chills down my spine. The horror and the pain they had to go through, they are to be pitied. Even more horrid to think that they couldn't pass into the afterlife, and have been kept in a dark closet for decades upon decades. Their story alone is a true tale of horror, gore and pain.

[@xavier2026]

i still wonder why the beldam couldn’t just go through the door and take coraline herself, because coraline did leave her door open, as well as leaving the other worlds door open at least once in the movie. it’s shown that things from the other worlds can survive in the real world, like the mice, so i’m assuming that includes the Beldam as well.

[@pucklebearry]

The Dark Ancient Corridor that 'slumbers' and connects the worlds. There is a theory that the beldam was scared of the corridor, of waking that ancient power up, and that the other mother IS NOT the most dangerous creature in the coraline universe.

[@ArtisticAlly123]

This is just my personal head cannon but I think because the Beldam is hundreds of years old but is thriving from the magic of the other world, so if she left the other world she would instantly die. And her limbs can leave because they’re only a spider robotic thing

[@KaitlinLuksa]

Everyone please consider reading another Neil Gaiman book: "The Ocean at the End of the Lane." It's my favorite book and if you like Coraline, you'll likely like it too!

[@slotzoffuntrue]

I was legit expecting "We're the rats" from jerma when he played the rat song

[@c_king1031]

I think the kid's souls had to be in our would to move on, and they stuck around after they got back to be kids one last time, to thank Coraline and give their final warnings and wisdom, after that they really couldn't stay because they had no reason to.

[@ernestodorado4615]

It was really cool to finally have some idea of who the ghost children may have been before being taken by the Beldam. I think next you should do the history of either Miss Spink and Forcible or the history of Mr. Bobinsky.

[@ju2545]

If the sweet ghost girl was still alive she would probably be Miss Spink and Miss Forcible’s age

[@Im4dr4g0n]

I've never seen or read Coraline, so forgive me if this has been covered. Do you think it's possible that the 3 children each represent the 3 things coraline needed to defeat the other mother, Bravery, Wisdom, and Trickery?

[@scp767furry3]

Am I first

[@sarahthomason7722]

that sponsor segment was so smooth i didn't even realize that you were talking about audible being the sponsor of the video until the end of the segment.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

I stopped reading journal 3 for this 😂

[@Metal_Dragon_]

Journal 3 is a darn good read.

[@possums154]

Damn you must really like Coraline

[@abacaxi29]

i love coraline more than anything in the world so thank you for this series

[@crashley1019]

Same

[@jasonkelic1202]

You got me a present?! This is something I didnt know I needed til I recived it. Coraline was so amazing and the book and lore are so interesting

[@alexise.5302]

I see the word Coraline and it’s by my favorite Horror History KZbinr I CLICK!!

[@CZsWorld]

Good taste

[@kingdenas9103]

*Y E S*

[@thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752]

A slight correction on the time period that is defined as “Georgian”: 1850 is well into the Victorian era which began in 1830 with the ascension of Queen Victoria after the death of her Uncle, King William

[@twistedyogert]

Would Elizabeth II's reign be the modern era or Elizabethian era?

[@nuuraabdulkadir5705]

@@twistedyogert did parents notice that their children is missing

[@sitdownbehumble8675]

Excellent video! Small note, breeches (2:39) are not dresses or gowns. Breeches are short trousers that usually extend to or below the knee. Young boys wore dresses (like the one you showed onscreen) until they were "breeched", a celebration in which they were old enough to stop wearing dresses and start wearing breeches (trousers) instead.

[@00ammy00]

I read the book when I was eleven (couple years before the movie came out), and I always assumed that the "goth ghost girl" was some kind of fairy or somesuch other being, because of the eating flowers thing and because of being the only one of the kids with a pair of wings in the dream. I thought it made the power of the beldam even more mysterious and terrifying, that she wasn't limited to just capturing human kids but possibly kids of otherworldly roots as well.

[@a.kitcat.b]

👻The ghost kids always freaked me out as a kid and for a time I actually believed my mom was the beldam. I learned quickly she wasn't.🕸

[@batking4342]

I just imagine your mom very exhaustedly going "im your mother!!!" And some 6 year old going "yeahhhh that's what that evil spider lady would say."

[@a.kitcat.b]

@@batking4342🤣I love this so much! Just made my day🥰

[@Digitalhunny]

QUESTION: If Alice in wonderland was originally filmed in a darker tone, with more original characters, would _it_ be considered a horror movie?

[@ViShBo]

HOLD UP- *aight so in the beginning where the other mother (beldam), she was RECREATING a doll, to make it as coraline look, but did you guys notice the old look of the doll, looking familiar with the dead trios? im having a theory that beldam uses one doll and changes it to one and another victim to spy them.*

[@gisellewoodland-tannous6065]

Hold on hold on hold on I thought the tall ghost girl was the first as coraline refers to her as the pioneer girl then the boy was next and then the sweet ghost girl as she was wybies great aunt and wybie and his grandma was still alive in the film, I’m so confused

[@Paula-gf3kr]

sweet ghost girl is wybies grandmas twin. did you watch the movie?

[@gisellewoodland-tannous6065]

@@Paula-gf3kr yes ofc how else would I know that but it’s still wybies grandmothers sister

[@antheaquity3612]

ah- you mean the movie. the creator was basing this off both the book and movie. in the movie- i believe the boy comes first, then the pioneer ghost girl- and wybie's granny's twin. in the book, the boy with breeches comes first, then the pioneer girl with the brown bonnet, and then the fairy who eats honeysuckle blossoms.

[@gisellewoodland-tannous6065]

@Auggie Calderon ohhhhh that makes so much more sense, I’ve read the book but always thought it was the same, since they made the sweet ghost girl wybies great aunt in the film they must of switched it up to make more sense

[@auggiejaime3820]

@@gisellewoodland-tannous6065 That makes sense

[@jcbohn3981]

One question, why no one how does the theorys talk about the girl fairy that appears in the book? But anyway great video, i love your Coraline content

[@johnathan1506]

I actually have a theory. There is that saying :"The eyes are the window to the soul".And I think that is why the Beldam wants to sow the buttons over the childrens eyes

[@alexise.5302]

2nd comment I love Coraline because it’s an amazing movie. The way I found it was through my brother. I remember this (despite my bad memory) one day I think I was around age 2 or 3. My mom took me to go pick up my brother from school. We found his classroom and a classmate of his opened the door we walked inside and my mom found him telling him that he was going home early, But as my mom was talking to my brother I remember the class watching a movie. It was where Coraline was escaping from the other mother. (The spider web scene) I was very interested and a couple years later around the age of 6 or 7 I asked my mom “Hey mom could we watch the movie where the girl was trying to get away from that creepy person?” Of course my mom was confused and didn’t understand what I was trying to tell her. But at the age of 8 I found Coraline (the movie I was talking about) I watched it til the end of the movie. I still watch it to this day. Greatest movie of all time! (Besides the other Tim burton movies)

[@anya2979]

My mom read this book to me when I was a child, stopped halfway when she realised that it wasn’t a typical kid’s book- she thinks that instead of helping with my English, it was just going to cause nightmares- but I remember being really intrigued by the story and finishing it in secret by myself- the film adaptation was good, but adding wybie, changing the basement scene where she blinds the other father to escape into a happier garden thing really lessens the terror.

[@thecookj454]

I don't really understand The Beldam takes her victims eyes out. Wouldn't she be able to take their souls without gouging their eyes out and replacing them with buttons? That has to be the most sick and sadistic thing to do to a child. The Beldam is one of the most demonic, sadistic, twisted villains of any kids/teen book.

[@Epicsupermegarocky]

The lore says that she takes her victims eyes out to tie ones soul to the other world.

[@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY]

Taking their eyes out and replacing them with buttons just somehow tethers them to her world and holding onto their eyes keeps their souls trapped.

[@cupidevergreen6820]

Maybe Coraline 2 will be about the ghost children's experience with the Other Mother/beldam

[@jellybean4267]

They not doing to produce Coraline 2, well, they never meant to make another movie

[@Nani.101]

Learning about the other children is the only way I'd accept more movies

[@sstaralien]

There's a part 2?

[@nuuraabdulkadir5705]

@@jellybean4267 did parents notice that their children is missing

[@ppgzchat]

The house is only 150 years old, so idk if he could of been alive during 1750-1850..

[@michelleeldridge4322]

Someone at my 2yr olds birthday party 11 years ago- “Who would get this movie for a 2 year old?” Me- “Her parents. It’s her favorite movie:”

[@meepinmay5927]

Imagine waking up at 3am to "we have teeth, and we have tails, we have tails. we have eyes we were here before you fell, you will be here when we rise" UH NAH IM MOVING OUT AND BURNING THE HOUSE

[@abigailoverton7610]

4:50 btw bread was sold sliced in 1928 but people just sliced it up themselves before then, they didn’t just bite into whole loaves XD, so i’m not sure if that rlly helps with the timeline lol

[@AiminReacts]

Imagine how scary it is being the first victim it’s just you lonely in that world with her

[@spottyty]

There's so many Theory's about her and the movie doesn't really have an ending it kind of seems like the real world is not the real world it even showed the cat walking into another world at the end

[@kiomicakessewperfect3900]

I’m 16 years old and after I watched coralline I had trouble sleeping for 2 days. I watch creepypasta stories and horror movies to fall asleep so it takes a lot to spook me. There’s something so eerie about Coraline

[@santruptip]

Man your attention to detail, the background, god damn we appreciate a hard-working creator. And not to mention you're adorable gosh.

[@Foreverevamarie]

Can you do miss spink and miss forcible...

[@jakiyrahspiveyspivey1749]

I thought the second girl “goth girl” was wybie aunt so don’t that make her the most recent one who past away?....

[@Zeldafan1ify]

Honestly the fact that the bedlam "kept" the children after they died rather than eating them right away (atleast, that's what one of them alludes) and fed on them until they were nothing but "snake skins and spider husks" is utterly horrifying to think about, more than anything.

[@cakecrumb095]

Now that I think about it Coraline is scarier than a lot of adult horror.

[@savannagordon79]

That second girl was actually the sister of Wbyie’s grandma you can actually hear a bit of her background in the movie

[@laurenwait164]

I think he didn't touch on that as much just because Wybie didn't even exist in the movie, therefore that ghost girl wasn't Wybie's great aunt in the book.

[@witchplease9695]

@@laurenwait164 Wybie was in the movie. He wasn’t in the book

[@aheheisaclown9355]

@@laurenwait164if you look at the picture of Wybie’s grandmother and her sister you can see that she’s very similar

[@liamjensen7775]

Kinda weird with the ghost boys vocabulary. Since it takes place in Oregon, somewhere northwest/northeast of Portland (because of the moving van saying Portland) his vocabulary is used before westward expansion (his being from the 1750s -1850s) so they should’ve updated it by making him use common words from the 1870s to 1890s as that would’ve been around the time that there would be such expensive houses that far west. But since the original story takes place in England, I guess they didn’t want to stray too far from their source material but that wouldn’t make too much sense because they added Wybie, a whole new character.

[@mariahh5250]

Actually we don't need Coraline 2 what we really need is the story of the 3 Ghost Children how they're captured by the beldam.

[@anxiety781]

The Queen is never late. Everyone else is simply early. Thanks for this vid! Really good job.

[@elishabrielle2937]

I thought 'goth ghost girl' has a lot of info because she's wybie's grandmother's lost sister.

[@nightingalewednesdaynightmare]

I love it when KZbinrs upload a Coraline theory video.

[@christoferdrewrocks1]

Since the house is 150 years old I always assumed that a kid showed up everyone 50 years. First is the girl with the hat when the home is just built, 50 years later the boy, another 50 Wybie’s great aunt, then last is Coraline. 1850, 1900, 1950, 2000. I figured the girl with the hat was first since Coraline called her pioneer girl, then she called the boy Huck Finn jr. Idk when the book takes place but when looking up some of the phrases he said it showed up early 1900s… Edit: oh wow I didn’t realize the book takes place in the UK and it changes the ghost characters quite a bit. My interpretation is just the movie version then lol.

[@nickscheidt9986]

Jesus loves you

[@greenbanana1001]

I think the faces the ghost children are making are the last expressions they ever made

[@thecookj454]

it is

[@diegorojas6497]

Watching this while reading 1984 in English Class

[@Just_niaxx]

I read the book by choice and it was cool

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

Oh shit! Wrong think.

[@diegorojas6497]

@@Just_niaxx it’s a really good book next to Fahrenheit 451

[@CZsWorld]

I love doing episodes like this where the story needs to be dug up.

[@TheSarahbee23]

TL;DR: the ghost girl is NOT from the Victorian era, she is LITERALLY a fairy that is hundreds and hundreds of years old and that is confirmed during Coraline’s dream at the end where the girl HAS FAIRY WINGS AND EATS FLOWERS. She speaks in old English, says she is centuries old, and has a dress of spider webs and a SILVER HALO on her head, she is a fairy that we are meant to assume was here thousands of years ago in human history, or perhaps is from the same magic realm as the Beldam herself is from. How on earth you got that she was from THE VICTORIAN ERA lmao is beyond me and too too funny. So, likely the guy who made the video wont see this but at least some other commenters will so i had to say it: this video is 100% wrong about the ghost girl in the book who was replaced by the landlady’s long lost twin in the movie. There is no possible way she was from the Victorian era, based on what the book blatantly says about her, and placing her at the Victorian era lead to the video writer ALSO getting the little ghost boys era wrong as well seemingly. Here are the facts that we are given about her, and at the end ill sum up what i personally interpreted to be the time period she was from. 1. The video says she was from the Victorian era which is from 1837-1901, but a few things that we are told about her in the novella make that impossible. First, she says this is the finest food she has eaten in CENTURIES. Even if we suppose she had been taken by the Beldam in the VERY first year of the Victorian era in 1837, she would not have been stuck in the other world for even 2 full centuries at the point in time that Coraline takes place. Since the novella was published in 2002 lets go with that being the year that Coraline faces off with the Other Mother, and lets assume the ghost girl was tricked by the Beldam within the first year of the Victorian era - even then, she would only have been stuck in the Other World for 1 and a half centuries, and no one would say “this is the best ive had in CENTURIES”, plural, and mean only 1 and a half. Gaiman is an amazing writer, and so we can assume that since he wrote “centuries” he means exactly that, multiple hundreds of years. It also isnt alluded that the ghost children say anything that isnt true; they regularly tell Coraline facts about what’s going on and only forget their lives before, not any of the time they have been stuck with the Beldam, so when the ghost girl says CENTURIES we should assume minimum 200 years, and then let the rest of her context clues tell us if we have to go higher then 200. 2. The little boy had a governess and used to wear dresses until he was put into pants as he got older; breeching was done from the mid 1500s until the late 1800s, and wealthy families had governesses in the 1600-1800s but governesses became extremely popular in Victorian England, falling off after WWI in 1918….meaning the BOY GHOST is the one who is most likely from the Victorian era, or at the very least, is likely from the years between 1750-1890. And since the girl ghost was there longer then the boy ghost, we know she cannot be from the Victorian era 3. Also, she is described as wearing a dress of spider web, and had a halo, or garland, or circlet of silver on top of her head while in the dark mirror before they are set free; afterward during Coraline dream where she sees their free spirits, the girl has fairy wings and eats flowers instead of food…. She is LITERALLY a fairy that is hundreds and hundreds of years old. I have NO CLUE which part of her description the writer of this video saw and was like “oh for sure 1840-1900 lol” but I’d love to hear their logic on that lol

[@Sgragy.J]

How about history of wybe’s mother?

[@l.........................8548]

When the rats were singing they sounded like kodak black

[@silverscorpio24]

I was always curious about these characters' backstories. Would've been cool prequel material too

[@genloserr.]

Well, I have a theory I heard on another channel. When Miss Spink and Miss Forcible give Coraline the taffy, there are dates on the top. Those are most likely the dates that the ghost children were born or captured. The first victim was the cat, the father of the grandma’s sister. He survived the beldam, and then tried to protect his kids, but failed. Then died of old age, he turned into a cat in another life and guards his grandson, Wyborn.

[@chaerii.zip_]

I just realised that the doll that the belldum was re-using to make Coraline’s doll might have been the same doll that was given to one of the ghost children, the girl with braids and a flower on her head

[@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY]

Yeah, and she’s actually Wybie’s grandmother’s twin sister whom Wybie explained to Coraline disappeared when they were kids.

[@Just_Ben_YT]

That was the smoothest sponsor transition I've seen

[@nimi5013]

The dad Says at the beginning to coraline that the house is 150 years old when he asks her to count the Windows And doors:)

[@glummybe4r]

There's a rumor going around saying there's a "Coraline 2" Can you verify that? I hope it's true, I'm really obsessed with the book and movie Coraline

[@eliannaxiong]

I searched it up and the internet says that there won’t be a Coraline 2 unless the author writes a sequel and he said he won’t write it unless the book will be the same or better than the first one.

[@nuuraabdulkadir5705]

@@eliannaxiong did parents notice that their children are missing

[@mikahong]

Early for my Horror Daddyyy

[@glowygaming8559]

Ehhhhhhhhh-

[@CZsWorld]

Always early! 🦇

[@glowygaming8559]

@@CZsWorld yeah but she/he called you daddy- Wouldn’t you find that wierd-😳

[@alexfuller2865]

The history behind the children was very interesting and I found them sad and yet I think this was a lot of evidence that shows what really happened to the other children before Coraline came into the picture. Coraline had a lot of luck.

[@tarena397]

Damn, I always found that hat girl one is creepy Edit: she always reminded me the victims from the "Ring" movie (they also had stretched months)

[@lilttiger]

5:53 that theory is actually so clever its insane. Coraline is such a masterpiece

[@Samirahtopretty]

Can you explain for the people that don’t have time ?

[@hitchisanidol9651]

Coralline has always scared me ever since I was a kid but it will always be one of my favorite movies

[@emilyhartman4889]

In reference to the movie adaptation, wouldn’t the one little girl be Wybies grandmother’s sister?

[@MaggieDLana]

(Conspiracy) -The other mother has feed off of more children then those three mentioned in the book, i think that because there memories started to fade so would there souls until they are completely gone?? 🤔

[@Jinny-dq7tr]

Well the girl with pigtails was the last one. I am pretty sure because that’s the doll. She makes in the movie before Coraline.