D&D SORCERER RANKING

[@dracowolf3212]

I want to see a pair of half-sibling sorcerers. One's a dragonborn with a divine soul and one's an Aasimar with a draconic bloodline

[@MaMastoast]

Oh that's really cool.. You could have them struggle with balancing their fiery tempers but celestial outlook

[@jthompson7024]

One of my players had a similar thing. He played a shadow sorcerer and his twin which was a recurring NPC was a divine soul. Their father was a CN priest who used a mysterious ritual to imbue his children with divine magic at birth, but for the shadow sorcerer the magic was twisted and the mother died in childbirth. Made a really cool family dynamic and he was a joy to have at my table

[@isaacgraff8288]

Clearly bards were involved.

[@perezo27]

May I steal this? Been having a shitty time thinking on characters with a campaign coming up

[@dracowolf3212]

@@perezo27 You may

[@jgr7487]

NPC: "how did you get your magic?" low Int & lower Wis Shadow Sorcerer: "once I turned left at a bend of the road & got lost in the Shadowfell" NPC: "but how did you get to the Shadowfell???" Sorcerer: "idk, it just happened"

[@erekthus]

Sounds about right lol

[@xCCflierx]

NPC: "How did you get back?" Sorcerer: ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ Magic?

[@iPhoneeditor]

Lich: "so let me get this straight... You got up to grab a snack from the ice chest and somehow along that short way took a wrong turn and ended up getting lost in the Shadowfell?" Sorcerer: "I do not claim to be a clever man"

[@codebracker]

@@iPhoneeditor hey, i got that reference

[@jgr7487]

@@codebracker pls enlighten me, then

[@rictoectol9814]

4:20 Spell casting 9:32 Draconic 15:09 Wild magic 21:23 Divine soul 25:32 Shadow magic 29:43 Storm 33:51 Rating

[@zEr-ne5ri]

@Ricto Ectol thank you kind person

[@RashidMBey]

Bless you

[@xiongray]

MVP

[@petrus9067]

Too bad this video came out just a few months before the aberrant and clockwork sorcerers which destroy all the other subclasses (except maybe divine soul)

[@Deathkyun]

"I always let my Wild Magic Sorcerer players roll on the Wild Magic Surge table after casting a spell of 1st level or higher." A DM after my own heart!

[@heavenseeker2320]

For my wild magic sorcerer, whenever they cast a spell of first level or higher. They will roll a d10, on a 1, a wild surge happen. The DC1 increase by 1 every time a spell is cast. After casting 4 spells, on a roll of 4 or lower a wild surge happen.

[@bakomusha]

I thought I was being generous and fun by saying my player got to roll after spending any sorcery points outside of combat! Damn that's generous!

[@sirseedott4436]

I rolled for it after each cantrip

[@Ghorda9]

@@heavenseeker2320 in the phb the sorcerer rolls on the surge table every time he casts a leveled spell after using tides of chaos, unless the DM puts a stop to that.

[@matthewvonderporten5605]

Wild Magic Sorcerer: I woke up one day as a potted plant. Then the town's crazy person told me the magic leylines farted in my general direction.

[@dustinsmith2021]

Matthew Von der Porten missed an opportunity to say shrubbery over “potted plant”.

[@MegaPokefan97]

It turned my mother into a hamster and made my father smell of elderberries

[@TheLostArchangel666]

@@MegaPokefan97 then it told me to go away, or it would taunt me a second time.

[@itzplant3196]

I just made mine and its basically that he opened an Elder Scroll and he absorbed the raw magic from it.

[@trapical]

I love the roleplay potential with Divine Soul, especially from Favored by the Gods. >PC fails a saving throw >PC looks up at the heavens and yells out “Really?! Come on man!” >the gods sigh. 2d4 is added to your roll, effectively fudging the outcome to a success.

[@ARC--5973]

My first ever character in D&D was a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer, and to this day he is my all time favorite character. He had so many opportunities to role-play, and the class led wonderfully into the story beats. I don't care if the class is mechanically flawed, I can't help but love all the narrative opportunities it gives you.

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

When it comes to storm sorcery, there was an unearthed arcana that had a meta magic possibility that let you spend sorcery points to alter the elemental damage type of the spells you’re casting. Then you actually can cast thunderball or lightning ball

[@schwann145]

It also included a subclass list of thematic spells known that every sorcerer subclass desperately needs... aaand was removed from the official release 😖

[@xCCflierx]

In 3.X changing a spells damage type was wonderful for flavor and versatility.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

@@xCCflierx some GMs still allow it for flavour

[@paulernst5180]

@@schwann145 media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/UA_Waterborne_v3.pdf This one! I'm playing a Storm Sorcerer right now, and my DM agreed instantly to allow that list. The vast majority of the spells on it are super situational anyway, with the main attraction being Call Lightning at Level 5. How can you call yourself a Storm Sorcerer if you can't actually use the storm to shock your foes?

[@robbiehussey4723]

I think the reason they removed was either because it was too powerful at the time compared to the other subclasses. But with the new class feature variants in Unearthed Arcana it is now a Metamagic or Font of Magic enhancement similar to Warlock Invocations. I suggest you check it out if you haven't already.

[@brennanperry8001]

Wild magic is the only one that matters, and to anyone who disagrees, I will personally *rolls wild magic table*...turn into a potted plant.

[@Kypao42]

My first wild magic surge turned me into a potted ficus in the middle of a packed arena.

[@snakeinabox7220]

Divine soul.... M8 the get the WHOLE CLERIC SPELL LIST..... THEY CAN META MAGIC CLERIC SPELLS... ah yes for 1 sr point at lv 17 I can do posibliy 8d12 necrotic damage..... Tiwned toll the dead

[@theuncalledfor]

Not if I True Polymorph YOU into a potted plant with my INT-based magic first!

[@danegrant6101]

​@snakeinabox7220 inflict wounds at 30ft was my favourite as a divine soul. Ranged cures were helpful sometimes too

[@josetorres8789]

I remember when my Divine Soul Sorcerer was hit was a really bad Disintegrate spell where half his face was disintegrated and then having that badass moment of using Unearthly Recovery and immediately undoing all that damage!

[@snakeinabox7220]

Tiwned toll the dead At lv 5 4d12 necrotic Lv 11 6d12 nec Lv 17 8d12 nec Ahh yes at lv 17 all damaging spells below 5th are useless ( fireball is not included)

[@Raoul9753]

8:24 "nor can you heal like a cleric..." Divine Soul Sorcerer: "Allow me to introduce myself."

[@SuperAmaton]

This Sunday, i will enter my first Campain ever with Qin Scuri, my Level 1 Shadow-Sorcerer-Changeling! How great to see i made a good choice with this. I only really chose the Shadow-Sorcerer because of the Flaws Quirks he can have, and i found them so fitting for a Changeling. 1 You are always icy cold to the touch. 2 When you are asleep, you don’t appear to breathe (though you must still breathe to survive). 3 You barely bleed, even when badly injured. 4 Your heart beats once per minute. This event sometimes surprises you. 5 You have trouble remembering that living creatures and corpses should be treated differently. 6 You blinked. Once. Last week. Especially that last one. These are just perfect for a Changeling. "Everything looks normal, but the longer you observe, you notice Vermund's Eyes never blink. When Prosperia janked her Comrade back to savety, the touch was colder than ice. And when Mule stumbled into your Room at Night that the Tavern-Owner was sleeping and she wasn't able to wake him up, you knew. No matter how precise the Imitation, how perfect the Mimic, the movement of the Feet, this is no ordinary Creature. Even among the Faceless Freaks, Qin Scuri is just that bit more frightening."

[@BlueDavrial]

Oof, good luck. Changeling isnt an easy race to play well in general, let alone for a new player. Definitely wouldnt recommend, but hope things go well for you

[@NotSoNoob19]

How did it go?

[@SuperAmaton]

@@NotSoNoob19 Still coninuing. We're now Level 4 and i'm gonna multiclass into Warlock next. On our Team is a Warforged-Paladin Oath of the Ancients, a Gnome Artificer with a Robo and a Warforged Moon-Druid made out of Wood. Previously we had a Dwarven-Fighter, but he ... left. We were fighting Werewolfs at the Time and he was bitten, aka, he couldn't wield his Silber-Weapons anymore and felt useless. I want to add to that that one seesion later he'd have gotten a Werewolf-Transformation for which our DM (who's rather new to the Job) spend quiet some time working on. Again, i want to add; i had no damaging spell at the Time that was usefull against the Werewolf and decided to throw Ash via Magehand into their Eyes or make them step onto Caltrops. Yeah, mood dropped hard after that, but now we have our Druid and he's a mayor improvement.

[@00784865]

The storm sorcerer also lifts 10ft into the air when casting lightning/thunder spells. This action doess not provoke opportunity attacks.

[@matan8074]

+50 points for rule of cool.

[@poilboiler]

What if they are underground or indoors? Good thing it's the wizards who wear a pointy hat.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

Man, I sense some interesting synergies with Eladrin for TP and possible multiclassing to make the Storm Sorc tougher for that one time they get hit. Something like Fighter 2 Defense + medium or light armor, or Hexblade. A few folks also take Tempest Cleric dips.

[@00784865]

@@destroyerinazuma96 tempest cleric is a good dip for both armor and that channel divinity. Warlock and fighter are standard multiclass options for sorcerers.

[@00784865]

@@poilboiler a sorcerer can choose if he wants to do that or not. Its also up to ten feet so no, you wont hit your head against the ceiling.

[@Shichiaikan]

Divine Soul Sorcerer is just insanely good, especially if you min/max with 2 levels of Warlock, Paladin, or honestly almost anything front loaded.

[@SuperAmaton]

You can also get some nice themes rolling. Divine Soul Sorcerer + Celestial Warlock. A Angel had a Child with a mortal Women to produce a Mortal that could avert the Heroes ultimate Destiny - his Death. But along the Way, the Child's Power was not enough. It's Blood, while Potent, not pure enough. Thus, in a bid of Desperation, it chose to chain it's fate to it's own Ancestor, to forever stand in his shadow.

[@Shichiaikan]

@@SuperAmaton Definitely. Or do Divine Soul + Paladin, and so on. So many possibilities.

[@unknownvalor9755]

With Season 9s changes to aasimars you can now play a divine aasimar sorcerer.. My aasimar is the biggest target in avernus lol.

[@MegaPokefan97]

@@Shichiaikan two levels of Paladin, then invest further into Divine Soul. Look down on everyone like the filthy mongrels that they are. Meteor Storm is your primary spell of choice (use elemental spell to make it all radiant damage) Gate of Babylon those mongrels

[@CanisMythson]

@@MegaPokefan97 Elemental Spell doesn't list Radiant as an option.

[@RIlianP]

Therapy for a wild sorcerer "Now show us on this doll where the bad fey touched you"

[@droman608]

“It touched me here... on my ‘special place’ 🥺 *points to forehead*

[@jakubguziur7522]

*touches his flowerpot*

[@brianmachado4839]

Actually I make some modifications to the draconic sorcerers and just by some minor changes everything is better The initial stays mostly the same The resistance to the type of damage is passive not requiring sorcery points Wings stay the same The draconic presence is passive but with a lower DC What changes is that you get draconic presence at the same level as your wings At 18 level you get a breath attack expending 6 sorcery points and making the same damage as an adult chromatic dragon (obviously of your line) I think by just giving the player that option (you can use it once per Long rest) it makes this sub-class miles better

[@spiritandsteel]

I had a friend guest-star on my ongoing 5e game, and he made "the Great Bruceini", a washed-up stage magician (rabbit out of the hat, and all that) who was totally unaware of his own power, and was hilariously delusional. He used a Wild Magic sorcerer, and the way I had him roll on the wild magic table was that he had to beat a Performance check of 10 + spell level. (since he was only there for one game, and I wanted it to come up more than once) It was perfect and hilarious.

[@bye1551]

That sounds like a really fun idea, I have a couple of cool character ideas, but this is the internet, and none asked, so I'll just stick to complimenting yours lol😂😂🤣🤣

[@matan8074]

Sounds like a fun game

[@dreaddinosour3728]

All that I've learnt is that wild magic is cooler than I thought

[@shinobidaniel_12]

as a another person who plays wild mage, I agree

[@sagesheahan6732]

The first dnd game i ever played, we had a wild mage. I was a half elf ranger, and got drow studded leather armor in my first encounter. Only to have the wild mage cast a spell that turned my amazingly awesome black drow armor, into a pink hello kitty pattern nightmare. I didnt play dnd again for 2 years. It wasnt a great first experience. Wild mages, are not weak. And one should be exceptionally wary of them.

[@nathanbaca5131]

It’s both fun and infuriating. Be sure if you play a character using wild magic that the rest of the party knows what they’re getting into and are ok with it. Best to play with people who you know are great with the RP side of the game and can roll with the punches when your magic goes wrong. It doesn’t always work in the party’s favor and I’ve seen PCs get pretty upset at the table about it before.

[@daydreamingrain]

I was running my players through Lance Rock the other night where a mighty level 3 spellcasting necromancer named the Lord of Lance Rock awaited them. He rolled highest initiative and then used 6 of 7 charges on his wand of magic missile on a already heavily wounded party and things were looking like a flee or die situation... Then my mountain dwarf wild magic sorcerer who survived with 1 hp, rolled a freaking 1 on his wild surge table after casting a spell and managed to land a 9... a 9 is like a 5th level magic missile. Needless to say the Lord of Lance Rock became the Lord of Lance Cooked after that encounter and I’ll never disrespect this subtype again regardless of what players say xD

[@atriumgamesmore4336]

I love the unearthed arcana Pyromancer, I feel like it should have been just in the base game.

[@atosm8300]

I honestly think the Pheonix Sorcerer is a lot better and still having the same purpose.

[@notorious.scoundrel]

@@atosm8300 I agree, with a few tweaking the Phoenix sorcerer is good to go and extremely flavorful

[@CanisMythson]

Something a lot of people miss is how good many Cleric spells are with metamagic. Twinned Spell is *fantastic* on spells like Healing Word and Guiding Bolt.

[@esperthebard]

That's so true. I wish I would have pointed that out in the video!

[@Zarsla]

I know. I'm a lvl 8 divine soul sorcerer in a game and I twinned spell Guiding bolt at 4th level, that's 2 8d6 16-96 damage on 1 target or 2 targets taking 8 - 48 damage. Healing Word - twinned is just healing 2 people at once and is soooo nice. I get that plus Mass Heal for when I feel the entire party needs it(Especially when I play in 5+ groups). Honestly I wish sorcerer had a combined metamagic ability this way metamagic could be mixed together in a way that would give the effect of the 2 together. Then you could distant twin spell cure wounds.

[@tarrickmerdev2324]

@@Zarsla Just to point out, rules as written a twinned spell must target 2 separate creatures. Also, to twin the spell at 4th level would take 4 sorcery points when you could natively cast Ice Storm for 6-40 damage or Wall of Fire for 5-40, both of which will also provide some battlefield control utility, or up-cast Fireball for 9-54 damage, none of which cost any sorcery points to do so. Twinned Guiding Bolts are good early on, but with the inherent inefficiency of up-casting and the nature of Twinned Spell's cost make twinning up-cast spells extremely inefficient with regard to resources, when playing rules as written.

[@Zarsla]

@@tarrickmerdev2324 RAW, depends on how you're reading it Twinned Spell doesn't specfic another target that's not the same as the original target. Just a second creature. It's typically assumed that second creature means a different target.

[@tarrickmerdev2324]

@@Zarsla Umm, that's literally what that means. It must target a separate creature: "to target a second creature in range with the same spell". If you aren't targeting a different creature then you aren't targeting "a second creature".

[@MetisRose95]

Sorcerer is legitimately my favorite class. You may not get to know as many spells, but at the end of the day you only have so many spell slots anyway. Plus you get WAY more cantrips than any other class to help compensate. Been playing a Draconic Half Elf Sorcerer in a campaign for awhile now and have a ton of fun with her.

[@JustAnotherDeadMan]

this is why I as a DM changed the rules of a sorcerer, where you get your font of restoration at tenth level and a true form at 20th level.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

I feel like Divine Souls make for good priest and priestess characters. I love the cleric class but as a whole it’s built so well for combat that it ends up feeling more like a paladin than the support characters you see in a lot of fantasy stories.

[@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627]

Yeah, usually Druids fulfill the role of traditional support since they tend to lack the same damaging power as other classes.

[@nicholaswhaling7233]

Twin healing spells do make for a good white mage type. Personally, I'm thinking more of a holy hand grenade kind of character. A good example would be Reimu Hakurei from Touhou.

[@JamesDean-nx2nq]

"STRIKE THERE!!! AT THE BUTTON OF SUBSCRIPTION!!!" LMAO. I almost fell out of my chair after hearing that. I was wondering where that bit was going to be honest I probably should have guessed that's what it was. XD

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

Honestly, it makes me so happy to see all the mtg artwork. Keep it going, love these videos

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Jafar, the perfect incarnation of the plotting evil sorcerer. not sure why I didn't go this rout in my first campaign since the DM wanted us all to be noble lord rulers of a small kingdom. Perfect opportunity for some magic fuckery.

[@WanderingRagabond]

But Jafar wasn't born with his powers. He's more of a scheming Enchantment Wizard, given how often he resorts to hypnotizing the Sultan with his serpent-shaped staff. He only obtains really large-scale and intuitive magic at the end, when he gets the Genie to just make him the most powerful "sorcerer" in the world. At THAT point he might count as a Sorcerer in the DnD sense, since he was empowered by an external source.

[@randomusername3445]

Spell bombardment was so close to being amazing if they dropped the once per turn. By 18th level and the nature of the subclass you deserve to have your 9th level wild magic bolt have the 1812 overture play when you cast it if you get lucky enough to roll max on more than one die more than once. Just make it once per long rest; I'd say making a spell have no upper limit on the damage it can do is worth a high level feature especially one that depends on your faith in RNJesus.

[@natashasurvivallady8021]

Exactly!! Just give them full exploding dice and let things go crazy.

[@Гева-б6ц]

Sorcerer are my favorite class in 5e, tbh. I just love the idea.

[@ohayo_baka_neko]

Tempest cleric and storm sorcerer have very good synergy with each other. Though you won't get any capstone abilities, a well placed lightning bolt cast with a high level spell slot and amped with the tempest cleric's Destructive Wrath channel divinity option can be absolutely devastating.

[@gabrielrockman]

Tempest Cleric is greatly enhanced by getting to choose Ray of Frost, Booming Blade, and Shocking Grasp as cantrips. Cleric cantrips suck, but the Tempest Cleric spell list and abilities are fantastic.

[@simondean5227]

Some of the most entertaining DnD videos on KZbin, keep it up!

[@stephhanley3167]

Very cool! Esper, your ranking videos are my favorites.

[@the_rose_garden01]

The reason Xanathar's Guide reprinted stuff was for the Adventurers League and their "Player's Handbook + 1" Rule

[@copycrow4486]

Here's a fun little idea for Spell bombardment. Whenever you cast a spell, your DM can choose for you to roll a d20. Before doing so, call out a number. If you roll the number that you called out, then you cast the same spell or a different spell of equal level, for free. Now, this sounds a bit more like a bombardment of spells. Just picture this working when you cast Fireball or something, and boom! A second Fireball for free.

[@wellfolks9096]

Seems cool I would restrict the numbers of uses though Maybe once per long rest on a success So you can try multiple times but only use it once Just to prevent you from abusing the feature But like I said Really cool idea Might use it myself :)

[@MasterGhostf]

@@wellfolks9096 Why not make it a metamagic feat, where you spend 1 sorcery point to roll a d20 and due the afformentioned effect? I think this would fit a sorcerer better as it seems to have an inane magic effect.

[@wellfolks9096]

MasterGhostf Although I love the sound of that It would burn a lot of sorcery points You have a maximum of 20 points and a 1/20 chance of rolling your guess So chances are quite high that you have to use all your sorcery points for just 1 use of the feature Maybe using another die would fix that Let's say 1d6 with a cost of 2 sorcery points The chance of guessing right is now roughly tripled and the cost doubled So there is still a risk-reward system

[@raves8451]

I would swap Spell Bombardment and Controlled Chaos and buff Controlled Chaos from having Advantage on the roll to you getting to choose the effect from within 3 options up or down of the roll you had. So if you rolled a 39-40 then you get to choose from the effects from the chart for rolls of 33-46. That feels much closer to controlled chaos to me and more fitting of a capstone ability as you are truly one with the chaos and can mold the developing chaos into what you see fit. Also by moving Spell Bombardment to lvl 14 you actually get some use out of it when it might be beneficial.

[@GergeCoelho]

Put 2 levels of Tempest Domain cleric on that Storm Sorcerer and get maximized damage lightning spells.

[@tobor88]

I would like a storm sorcerer so much more if it wasn't in three separate books

[@ARC--5973]

YES!!! My favorite class by far.

[@teeseeuu]

Same

[@hermionesydneygoldmanphynn498]

My girlfriend agrees with you.

[@ARC--5973]

@@hermionesydneygoldmanphynn498 Your girlfriend has great taste.

[@mestre12]

Great class. Great way to make background.

[@numberbndl3763]

Yeah, this rogue and monk are my favorites

[@mausihasizauberfee]

that was real cool. thanks so much for making this video. I really enjoyed watching it!

[@derekmorgan3074]

Ah, the benefits of homebrews and chill af DMs. We have a group that have been playing various editions of D&D, including some 3rd party alternatives for 3.whatever. We've totally kit-bashed the heck outta our play style and rules at our table. Love the content Esper. Good gaming, my dude.

[@jeffreylucier5266]

Thanks Esper!

[@arbiterskiss6692]

That quote at the beginning, words to live by.

[@youiri65]

I had a DM that lets me roll for Wild Magic every spellcast. It made every fight so much fun, like causing a poison cloud beside the dex based character, summoning a Unicorn in the middle of an almost tpk, to glowing like the sun in the middle of an ambush, to aging up and down multiple times in an hour, or seeing the dex based character dance around when he uses Dimension Door because i can see through the Ethereal Plane.

[@mateotrimboli1232]

Really awesome video, so much information. I guess we'll never see a better version of the draconic bloodline sorecer

[@Leafy1-j1l]

Ehh. See, I like Wild Magic, my problem is that it's not nearly chaotic enough. Okay, so, every time you cast a leveled spell, there's a 5% chance something might happen. Meaning you can easily clean the racks and not have any chaos at all - this is as rare as a crit. except you have fewer swings. When you finally do get a little chaos, there's still a chance nothing in particular will happen. Adding up all the "immune to getting drunk", "grow a beard of feathers" and "gain or lose a negligible amount of age" sort of results, there's about a 20% chance that even when you crit, nothing of any real consequence will happen.

[@Ninebreaker56]

I really enjoy the way you did the ranking on this video!

[@zavexcapricious2519]

Both before and after my group switched to Pathfinder 1E (cause as much as I love 5e, I learned it is FAAAAAR superior) we took the wild magic thing and turned it into a thing that happens to EVERYONE. If you cast a spell in any of our games you roll a d100, and if you roll low enough (depends on the spell level) you a roll on a table of TEN THOUSAND wild magic effects. No I did not stutter. I don't remember were we found it but to this day 4 years later we have yet to roll everything on that table. It's effects have ranged from anyone who wields an axe becomes invulnerable for 4 rounds, to a dozen cows appear and try to kill you, to 20d20 skeletons show up and begin to build a pyramind, and these are all things we have rolled within the last three sessions of our current campaign alone. Surges have always been a delight, so much so it has become a stable of our setting for all spellcasters, and I can confidently say me and my group can't think of a game without them.

[@jgr7487]

I'm so hyped for your Bard analysis!

[@simonblanjean6538]

I forgot how much I love your content

[@eros5420]

How come getting touched by a demon or Eldritch horror tends to give you powers but being touched by a priest just gives you a traumatic childhood?

[@jaythomas172]

Here’s some inspiration for you. All classes should have their capstone abilities moved to lvl 20. What abilities? A legendary action. A single action tailored to the class, useable once per long rest or once per day. i.e. the fighter can choose to take 0 damage from any source for 1 round (I could debate 1 minute) or do a ridiculous amount of damage per attack. I am open to debate on this. A wiz kid could cast a spell higher than lvl 9 etc. use your imagination on the different classes but if you actually reach epic levels of play then you should be able to , briefly, do something truly epic.

[@harperthegoblin]

Good idea, thanks!

[@maromania7]

For wild magic I too let them always roll if they're using a spell slot. I also let the group choose whether to use my optional rule at creation- you roll surge, then subtract the spell level from the roll as a modifier. 1 or lower and you surge. You're unlikely to mess up a detection spell you've had most of your life, you're much more likely to when you're gathering enough energy to stop time. The way I see it, if you're playing a wild magic sorcerer it's to have some chaotic fun. I also made a full table with 100 options instead of 50. many of which being more situational or neutral things like animal ears or 'a baby creature appears, thinking you are its parent.' My favorite is 'the strongest monster within 2 miles knows of you, and you of it.' Cut to a day later, the party benefactor contacts the rouge in a dream to ask WHY they suddenly left Waterdeep hours before the thieves guilds started a city wide bloodbath invasion trying to find them. She had no idea other than 'The sorcerer went crazy yesterday and made us leave, blabbering something about seeing an eyeball monster?"

[@zacharysnyder2520]

Currently in a game as a wild magic sorcerer. So far I have teleported randomly into a pile of wolves and made it so I can only shout for an hour. Both were fun little things (wolves downed me lvl2) and the shouting made me upset a liked NPC that I had to apologize for later. Fun stuff.

[@zacharysnyder2520]

Asked dm beforehand. She was super into it. Made a custom expanded table.

[@Figgy5119]

We're playing with a Wild Magic sorcerer and we do it differently than described. We have her role on the chart every time she uses her spells. I modified the more severe ones to be more mild, but she loves it. And every time she levels up and she gains more control of her newly acquired powers and I role a percentile die to see if the player needs to role on the list. The player finds it really fun and loves role playing it since it's mostly silly things that suit the character, like changing her skin to blue or growing antlers and shedding them away after 24 hours.

[@TheTsugnawmi2010]

I'd love a Sorcerer subclass that blends the Wizard akin to how Divine Soul blends the Cleric. Why wouldn't someone born with magic powers NOT try to study it? The DS makes sorcerers better healers, like Clerics, so this one makes sorcerers more versatile like wizards. Give us (spitballing ideas): - *Meta Magic - Mirrored Spell:* spend sorcery points equal to half the level of a wizard/sorcerer spells we see getting used. Use that same spell next turn. Imagine mirroring Geas mixed with Heightened Spell. Or nuking the field with Fireball and Empowered/Quickened. The power and versatility is there, but are you prepared to spend the points on it? > Maybe add an Arcana Check on the end of this wherein a Success means you permanently learn what you mirrored. - *a spellbook for Wizard spells up to level 3* - don't count against spells known (past level 3 would be insane) - *Arcane Recovery* using the INT modifier instead of half of wizard level - *Capstone ability:* Meta magic costs are reduced by half your INT modifier (rounded up but must still cost minimum of 1).

[@natashasurvivallady8021]

I will say that there are several feats that allow this kind of feel, the biggest ones for me being Magic Initiate and Ritual Caster: Wizard. The Magic Initiate gives you the feel of training your low level magic to reach outside of your normal skill set, while Ritual Caster evokes the drawn out process of casting long term magic using what you know. Ritual Caster also vastly expands the number of spells you can end up knowing, while never encroaching on your spell slots. I also like the feel of these as feats specifically, because it shows someone searching out more magical training outside of their innate abilities.

[@alexandrusava6131]

I so like to see the storm sorcerer and the sorcerer in general being given the love it deserves

[@seraphimaria5393]

18th level wild sorc replacement: Forced Chaos: Whenever you cast a sorcerer spell of first level or higher, you may spend 3 sorcery points to roll three times on the wild surge table, and choose one of the resultant rolls. You may expend these sorcery points more than once per spell, but may only choose one result. Additionally, whenever the DM has you roll a d20 to check for a wild surge, you regain 1 sorcery point when you roll a 20.

[@barrybend7189]

In 3.5 the Sorcerer didnt have a fixed spell list rule. But in that edition gms usually allow a preparation time to swap out spells if need be like clerics.

[@adriltythorin6702]

When all the classes are done I'd love to see a comparison of all subclasses in the game, and to compare the average of each class' subclasses against each other. Great video.

[@rangerecho]

I know you're just postponing the Cleric, as no one wants to do 11 archetypes, but it'd be so cool to see that one next!

[@esperthebard]

Cleric 3-part video? What do you think?

[@rangerecho]

@@esperthebard yeah, sounds reasonable. Base class and a couple of archetypes in 1, the rest of the phb ones in the second, and Arcana, Forge, and Grave (and the Death domain too, I'm guessing?) in the third!

[@killcat1971]

Some common house rules/buffs to the base Sorc are bonus spells (like Domain spells) 2 per level at 1,3,5,7,9 and "Sorcerous recovery" regain half your level (rounding up) of sorcery points on a short rest, usable once per long rest.

[@alistairclough674]

It looks like there needs to be an official campaign for 20th lvl characters.

[@oliverb2794]

My group has a rule with the wild magic thing; you want to gain advantage on the roll? Sure, go for it, heck, take 10; but after EACH one, you roll on the Wild magic chart the turn after you used the tides of chaos I absolutely LOVE the chaos I cause as a wild magic sorcerer; color changing skin, a angry dwarven sheep, killing an ancient gold dragon as a jar BY COMPLETE ACCIDENT

[@PaiOeShi]

I've seen DMs add +1 to the wild table chance each time it fails. Ie you will a 2-20 the first time, next time a surge happens on a 1 or 2, time after that, 1, 2 or 3 and s on.

[@paradoxical998]

Imagine playing a shadow sorcerer and being the happy-go-lucky, chipper kinda guy. Like you greet the day with a genuine smile and are super friendly, only to blast your does with darkness and then release a Hellhound.

[@isthisajojoreference]

For the wild magic sorcerer's 18th level ability it would have been cooler if it was just another wild magic table that's even more powerful and crazy that activates if you roll a 20 on the die instead of a 1, maybe it could be more skewed towards good effects too.

[@bakomusha]

This certainly made me rethink the class, outside o it's lack luster spell choices! makes me feel far less apprehensive about playing a divine sorc in an upcoming game!

[@freedfalchion9860]

Yes my Holy Bard-Sorc can work. Love your ranking vids! Do monk next please

[@thewrustywrench21]

As a DM I increase the chances of wild magic surge as the character gains levels (capping out at 4 at lvl 9) or comes into contact with even more raw magic that fuels their power even further, or experiences that would feasibly increase their wild magic, such as extreme emotional trauma or something thematic relating to the character. (capping out at 10) this is all optional for my players, obviously.

[@elKinesis]

Concerning Wild Magic Sorcerers, I like the rule that Wild Magic Surge chance increases by 1 with each spell cast, e.g. 1st spell roll of 1, 2nd spell roll of 1 or 2, etc. And then it resets after a surge happens. Makes things a little more interesting.

[@keez94]

I think the current capstone should be moved to about level 11 and a real capstone should be added for each bloodline. For example Wildmagic could let you make someone else roll on the table when they cast a spell in your line of sight for a reaction, Draconic could give you a full dragonbreath once a long rest, and Shadow could temporarily animate other living creatures shadows into creatures under your controle for sorcery points equal to thier CR.

[@bye1551]

I would change wild magic to "once per long rest, when you would roll on the wild magic table, you can choose which outcome you would prefer, you may do this once per long rest, but doing it more than once a week gives you a chance to be corrupted by the weave, roll a 15 or higher, you take no adverse affects, lower, and you suffer 2 points of exauhtion, and can only cast cantrips through 3rd level spells till you take a long rest. On a nat 1, your magic consumes you, and you go unconscious" gives it a bit more spice I feel.

[@keez94]

@@bye1551 feels like that leans a bit negative to me while as it is you can still only do it once a round (eating your reaction) on friend or foe not knowing if it would help or hurt the situation. I feel like it still leans strongly to the chaos aspects but maybe limit it to charisma mod number of times a long rest or so. IDK I just typed the ideas out as I thought of it.

[@madisonm.4535]

Well I'm proud of myself. My first DnD character ever and I pick shadow sorcerer despite not knowing much about mechanics yet. It honestly just fit the character I had in mind and seemed like it had some really cool features. She's awesome. She died recently in my last session. Wasn't due to lack of skill. There is an evil insta kill sentient lightsaber thing. She decided to be good and not kill her friend with the lightsaber which strayed from her motives as a chaotic neutral character who sought to become ultra powerful and seek vengeance on the one who took everything from her. She chose to seek to destroy or purify the lightsaber and ignore it's evil will. So it killed her. But then I just surprised the hell out if my party by bringing her back through part time possession of a new character I created. That's how we ended the last session. Edit: Forgot to mention that the character she possesses is a barbarian of the wild soul. My ghost shadow sorcerer is that barbarians wild soul and they are now fused. Both would likely die without the other because of reasons. Yes our campaign went a bit derailed from the traditopnal campaign we were originally headed on but my DM loves it and has let us all become a little overpowered and nuts and it's just a great story.

[@rcschmidt668]

Well done! Thanks for sharing.

[@lucaslorena2372]

boy am i eager to see your fighter ranking

[@bskec2177]

The new varient rules have a meta-magic option to change the element damage of a spell. A storm sorceror could change a fire-ball into a lightning or thunderball to trigger it's class features.

[@Spiceodog]

font of magic and metamagic is s tier, it makes a sorcerer what a sorcerer is

[@Boss-_]

I borrowed a bit of Wild Magic Sorcerer and "forced" it in my player's Wizard. He bought a Fireball scroll from an obviously dodgy salesman and copied it into his book. Except he bought a bootleg spell, and every time he casts the Fireball, he has to roll on a Wild Magic Surge table. Of course, this can be fixed by finding the proper Fireball runes from a reputable source and fixing the spell, but that might be a bit difficult considering they're pirates.

[@samwhary5498]

Watching this again makes me miss my draconic sorcerer. She was fun..

[@thegingergod3122]

I have a player who is playing a Dragonborn Dragon Sorcerer. His background is that he was human, but the two split aspects of a ancient dragon God chose him as its champion to reunite them. One aspect is that of a silver dragon, and the other is that of a red dragon. They gave him the body of a silver Dragonborn infused with the magical power of a red dragon sorcerer.

[@HereticDuo]

Casting spells as a bonus action is insane, it makes melee sorc a real thing. Think of this, Shadow blade, green flame blade, quicken spell and dragon origins bonus to fire damage. At level 6 you'd do 3d8+ dex with shadow blade (upcast) with +1d8+spell mod green flame blade and dragon origin fire damage. And an additional 1d8+spell mod + spell mod again for fire to an additional target within 5ft. Thats a total of 5d8+dex+(3x spell mod) and you can do that twice with quicken spell.

[@jthompson7175]

I love the wild magic chart. I have a player who played a draconic bloodline sorcerer who was insane. We talked it out and I occasionally have him roll on the wild magic chart.

[@Almighty_Mage]

I just rolled up a Divine sorcerer. Will eventually multiclass with hexblade

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

By the by, Esper, when you do the videos for druid, cleric, paladin, and bard, will you be incorporating the options in the Ravnica and Theros books? I’d love to get your thoughts on those as well as the other more commonly known books.

[@ljm595]

Dude I completely agree with your 20th level sorcerer ability

[@amothwithapressingquestion3902]

Sir, you've gained a subscriber. Loved the vid!

[@theuncalledfor]

Fun fact: Sorcerer is an excellent class for a one-level dip on your Bard! Bards get a terrible capstone feature and having some extra Sorcerer cantrips, first level spells, and class features are well worth the investment!

[@theuncalledfor]

If I was DM'ing a game with a Wild Magic Sorcerer, I would ask the other players if they're okay with the wild magic surge thing. Personally I would not want to play with another character that could explode at any time, as a player.

[@TheEldritchGoth]

My first character was an LG drow Draconic sorcerer who fled the Underdark long ago and used her magical abilities to help her as a detective in Waterdeep

[@Berry_Goosey]

Dang, the shadow sorcerer sounds cool as hell!

[@astuteanansi4935]

If Hound of Ill Omen sounds underwhelming because of how badly its HP scales at high levels, consider this: it costs 3 sorcery points, it's a bonus action, and there's nothing that stops you from plopping it right next to an enemy. You know what else costs 3 sorcery points? Heightened Fucking Spell. Which gives your target disadvantage on its first save against that spell. Something Hound of Ill Omen also does. So if you're using your doggo correctly, you're plopping it right by the target (preferably so that it and your main melee fighter have the target in a pincer hold), and then let loose with your meanest single-target spell. Unless you're casting from over 120 feet away for some reason, or need your bonus action really badly on every turn (you probably don't), this is already just as good as Heightened Spell, saving a tasty metamagic slot for something else. And then, on its turn, your enemy (unless it has AoE up the wazoo) has to decide whether to kill the enemies it actually wants to kill, or waste at least one, likely more attacks on the annoying yapping pup that keeps nibbling at its buttocks and making your spells much deadlier. Either way, you win. And by the time your enemies can easily kill the hound, you have enough sorcery points and spell points to burn to throw the damn things around like candy.

[@Xeranad]

Want an even crazier Wild Magic Sorcerer? Make them an Eladrin Elf. While it doesn't do anything gameplay wise, the Eladrin can change their season after a long rest, often when something odd or perhaps traumatizing happens, and what is more traumatizing than having magic that you can't always count on? I also like to think of this version of Wild Magic being tied to the Feywild... and I think this creates a lot of interesting roleplaying opportunities. Give it a shot... might be the most memorable character in the party.

[@perezo27]

I would´t give Font of Magic a Legendary Tier, mostly for the amount of Sorcery Points at early levels, it´s really hard to do anything with that but one or two affected spells I wouldn´t have it so they replenish on a short rest, because you can spam spell slots that way, however, you could have so that the amount of Sorcery Points is equal to your Sorcerer Level + Charisma Modifier. Let´s say you have a +5 modifier, at 20th level, you would have 25 Sorcery Points instead of 20. It´s good, but it doesn´t change a lot. Now, let´s say you have a +3 modifier at 4th level, that´s 7 Sorcery Points instead of 4. That´s better, way better, and it would really help early level sorcerer

[@DracheLehre]

I have Wild magic sorcerer dwarf in my campaign. So far he has summoned a unicorn twice, shrank 5 inches and cast mirror image at the end of an encounter. A lot of fun from the wild magic surge table

[@guidomista8448]

I personally hate the scarcity of the wild magic surge, when I played one, I asked my dm to make it to where if I roll a five or below, or if you can get them to just let you use the table whenever you cast a spell.

[@RaggedLands]

Currently playing a divine soul sorcerer/celestial warlock with pact of the tome. I did mislevel a bit when it comes to some things, but I can change those things around soon. The build has a lot of versatility (pact of the tome, I got like 11 cantrips) for all types of situations, healing light is a great way to keep your pals fighting, and agonizing blast spell sniper eldritch blast with a rod of the pact keeper and hex just straight up beats everything.

[@bashfulray7982]

You earn this like with the passion

[@wolfskinchanger]

11:49 "...A dragonborn already has resistance to the damage type associated with its dragon ancestor; this means that the resistance portion of its elemental affinity does jack squat." Not true, and the contrivance you speak of next is unnecessary. The ancestor who started the bloodline might have made babies with a dragon, or might simply have made a bargain with one as the player's handbook mentions. Also, the power in the bloodline could lay dormant for many centuries before it manifests again; a dragonborn sorcerer with the draconic bloodline is entirely free to choose two different dragons for these features, and the character might not even know where the extra power came from.

[@lucascunha4465]

Wizards: No, you can’t use spells without any arcane knowledge or higher being bestowing it upon you! Sorcerer: Ha Ha, fireball go boom.

[@themicahnism]

See the class I have the most trouble with in 5e is the sorcerer. It’s a bit in their capstone abilities, their lack of support for a beefier constitution/frontline option, but it’s mostly in their spell list and spells known. Each origin needs an expanded or innate spell list to compensate IMO. It’s weird though because a ton of their features are SO good and crunchy.

[@keithulhu]

The sorcerer subclasses boil down to 1/32 dragon, Scarlet Witch, Storm, Jesus, Nightshade, Wilbur Whateley, and Booster Gold.

[@krunchyfrogg]

You brought up my biggest fear in playing a divine sorcerer: will I be able to get all the spells I really want? I’ve never played a sorcerer, but one thing I’ve never heard a player say is “I’m not sure what spell to choose at level up because there’s nothing that interests me”- now there are twice as many to choose from!

[@raybeamtotheface6540]

Im playing a wild magic sorcerer. Recently had a fight against a dragon and my wild magic triggered twice in combat. Extra attack (got permission from DM to cast another lvled spell) then hit wild magic again, this healed me 5hp at start of every turn. I was barely harmed at the end of the fight, but 2 of my party members were lying rolling death saves. In this case Wild Magic Surge felt S tier, but it could also had transformed my character into a potted plant or done something else thats bad