D335 (40135) Start-Up (Not as you expect) - 19.01.08

D335 is started for the first time after a period of being flat. The AVR was to be checked so Dave Peacock sets out to start the Type 4... 5th time lucky!

[@2010monkeywrench]

When the cylinder temperature increases and the rings start sealing off due to increasing pressures, the white smoke (unburnt diesel fuel) starts changing to black smoke as more of the injected diesel ignites. At this point, some cylinders actually start producing enough power to carry themselves, but others are still being motored. As starting continues, more cylinders kick in and the thing comes to life. What a great visceral experience to actually start these things in cold weather!

[@tomasneel1980]

Enjoy while you can, Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind. To turn these cold motor takes lots of electric starting power , keep in mind, rods, cylinders, cranks etc are much bigger, , it’s slower so combustion ratio is low , the fuel puddles on the cold cylinders because of incomplete combustion, and the turbo is blocking air cause it won’t spin till the first real ignition happens and that’s when you see the first puff of smoke go from grey or blue to black. Then another puff, and another then the turbo finally spools up, and finally after 5. Minutes voila .

[@beeble2003]

@@tomasneel1980 "Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind" Complete BS.

[@levelcrossing150]

@@beeble2003 Agree, he's the one that has over stayed his time.

[@straxx99]

it sounds angry in the start, to early in the morning, no coffee no cigarettes, and it is chill ;-)

[@SwedishMindwacker]

Sounds more like it has had way to many cigarettes.

[@straxx99]

Hejsa min Svenske broder, hilsen fra Århus Danmark

[@jjs8046]

straxx99 he ain't your brother.

[@antonydicesare4632]

Just listen to those turbos, they'd win x-factor, what a sound

[@trexmidnite]

And you sound like an idiot

[@AbelMcTalisker]

Cold start on a typical January morning in the UK. Don`t you just love it, no mater what sort of vehicle you`re driving!

[@Bilbo107]

Always loved the whistle of the fans and turbo's. Sunday was busy near my house for shunting, usually Brush and BoBo but sometimes something with a nose. I would watch for hours and stand on our bridge over the heat rising from the fans. Went to Rolls Royce at 16 and trained as a diesel engineer. Love those diesels. Thanks Dr Rudolf.

[@stevenvater2681]

That sound and whistle!! Memories!!!!!

[@nathanwhite1599]

That sound just makes you feel good. Would love to experience it first hand.

[@Match2100]

That sound of 4 Napier turbos singing is just gorgeous!

[@paulcatley2224]

thats not a napier deltic engine, its a v16 english electric

[@Match2100]

@@paulcatley2224 Nowhere in my comment did I say that it is a Napier Deltic engine. The turbochargers are manufactured by Napier, and this engine is fitted with four of them.

[@TYPE-zd3gm]

My neighbors had better be glad I can't get one of these in my back yard!

[@Janx101]

Zombie comment revival........ Just one?! 😉😁

[@billsmith305]

Me too

[@fordprefect7583]

Pretty much exactly what I did expect

[@Shane-Singleton]

Same reaction I had. I was waiting for something to explode

[@kiwitrainguy]

I thought that light behind the exhaust outlet was flames!!

[@laphroaigable]

Youngsters seldom appreciate the sound and fury of enormous diesel engines. I was First Officer on a Danish sailing ship that had an Alpha 3 cylinder, air start, 750 rpm redline. In a pinch, t could be "push" started, or you could just start walking on the flywheel!

[@rick_porter]

Hey, the video is BACK! This is still one of my all time favourite train videos! Many thanks for this! Rick - USA

[@ph11p3540]

Love the sound of those turbos.

[@masonmethot3186]

Looks like it was holding that smoke in it's lungs for a long time!

[@colnuttall9035]

The sound of a Deltic brings my childhood rushing ack. I lived in England and loved to hear them go by pulling a train under load. What a sound !

[@RY-kx1xp]

This one is a Class 40 not a 55 (Deltic)

[@paulcatley2224]

thats not a deltic its a v16 english electric class 40,

[@AwsomeVids83]

Just listen to those turbos sing!

[@PantherSerpahin]

Edited *Incorrect statement*

[@AwsomeVids83]

PantherSerpahin huh. Ok, learn something new every day.

[@UppyJC]

They're definitely turbos, made by Napier. There are 4 of them, each serving 4 cylinders.

[@AwsomeVids83]

UppyJC Now I'm confused, but I have to go with you based on the sound.

[@AwsomeVids83]

TigerDude333 WTF do you mean dude? Turbos are loud and you can clearly hear them in this video.

[@kiaganga]

that whistle on tickover brings back memories i lived next to deltic lines as a kid in the 70's

[@flyguy5941]

Wow I first listened to this vid 12 years ago & I still love it

[@ZathGB]

Great sound ! Not heard that whistlin' since I was at Guide Bridge back in the early 80s. Bring back the good old days ! Thanks for the vid. Just wish I had some of all my excursions.

[@stuartdavies7416]

Guide Bridge. Awesome location. The Class 40 sound is just about the finest I know of. Quad turbo V16. How good can it get?

[@swc461]

We had English Electric diesels in Australia, and the South Australian Railways (SAR) had these 16 cyl 4 turbo versions in their 900 class, when maintained they started very quickly, probably in about quarter of a revolution, a great engine.

[@Starfleet0]

Oh thanks man, that's an insane displacement. Damn this engine sounds beautiful.

[@jchristian8413]

it's a wicked sound alright. bloody beautiful

[@ddssdickday]

Videos like this, and you guys who know about these incredible machines, just amaze me. As a hobby, I restore the old 2-cylinder John Deere tractors and have difficulty remembering the firing order :) I cannot imagine what it must be like to work on these grand engines. Thanks for posting this. Dick Day Norfolk, Nebraska USA

[@Knucklehead4400]

Remembering the firing order on a 2 cyl? doesnt it have to be 1-2

[@ddssdickday]

Yes. Note the smiley face following this statement.@@Knucklehead4400

[@RODALCO2007]

Awesome video. Love the start and clag. These are the real locomotives. Excellent ! thanks for posting.

[@exoticsportcars]

Oh man, gotta love the sound of those turbos. I'd drive that around just to listen to them all day lol.

[@stewartbeckett5642]

That's exactly the sound I used to hear at the small local station near Blackpool called Layton station, when these things start sing their song you Never forget, it was great I loved it. 😊😃👉😲😎

[@flyguy5941]

DONT KNOW WHY BUT I LOVE TO LISTEN TO TRAIN STARTING UP!!!

[@MazeFrame]

Wow! What a sight, the sound is great!

[@choirboyfromhell1]

I rode behind the "Green Howards" when I first went to England in 1980, London-Hull, there was nothing like that VROOM sound they put out...a Fairbanks-Morse x three, incredible!

[@Okanagan48]

I love the sound of these oldtimers starting up. The smoke the whine of the turbos.

[@MrTonyozzie]

This whistle takes me back to Crewe in the 70's and also the North Wales Coast Line. My mum and dad were on the beach, I was sat on Rhyl Station, brilliant.

[@raridan1]

I used to drive a fuel truck powered by a Cat 3208 which is a naturally aspirated V8. It was15 years old at the time and had spent alot of it's time idling. I would leave it running at high idle for about 15 minutes just to blow all the white smoke out of it due to oil setting in around the piston rings while it sat overnight. It ran fine once I did that. Likewise this tired old locomotive. Happy trails old friend.

[@peterstone6307]

That sounds fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing, I could listen to it all day!

[@d65fitzer]

I love that sound, I know the smoke isn't good, but it's beautiful!

[@christopherhampson265]

Very nice indeed ,when Brittania Ruled !!!! Just memories and tears now , ta ta U K 'twas a good place to be a few decades back . I remember 1980 New Street Station stood right next to Deltics starting up , thought I'd get suçked into the grilles !!! Scary but amazing when your 9 , very fond mamaries ....

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

Sounds like a giant monster snoring when it idles lol

[@cargo4441]

VW clean diesel power at work.With cheat software removed.

[@crebegea]

Yeah, because your 6L engines are better.

[@franktechmaniac7488]

Engine controls by Lucas, the Prince of darkness.

[@fonss4059]

Add blue

[@bobw7066]

Love these Deltic engines originally designed for submarines. They are supercharged not turbocharged as some people have thought, I have worked on these engines for many years with three crankshafts, eighteen cylinders and thirty six pistons. A nightmare to work on.

[@rogertycholiz2218]

Everyone seems to think they hear a turbine whine. I know they're supercharged like radial aircraft engines to get an air charge into the manifolds. I read somewhere they had turbo chargers.

[@adammacer]

That's a 40 not a Deltic

[@Martin.H98]

love the "cklunck sound of a diesel engine starting when it is cold!

[@pancudowny]

The cold-morning diesel start-up procedure: Check all fluids... Check battery condition... Say a prayer, ahead a tear... Turn the switch, count to six, then engage the starting-gear!

[@vincentrobinette1507]

Either insufficient compression, not enough advance in injection timing, or, it needs glow plugs. Once warmed up, I'll bet it runs smooth as silk, and burns perfectly clean. This is undoubtedly a cold start. I have to admit, I do like the sound!

[@TIMEtoRIDE900]

Can't rev it up till the oil warms a bit.

[@speedskiff2]

used to drive a detroit v-12 that was just as cranky. Once it started and was hunting, go inside shed and keep dogs company until it warmed up and was idling normally. Neat post.

[@choirboyfromhell1]

@Triplex5014 Most diesel-electrics use the generator, some latter Alcos used an air-starter. My guess is that the first four or five tries here were done with the cylinder cocks open to prevent firing, in order to pre-lube and get possible jacket water out of the cylinders (a necessity with EMD's). When the last try comes, it fires right up. And I love it, as I said a long while ago, this beast's an Alco in quadraphonic!

[@ogreunderbridge5204]

I want that for my daily commuter. The grumpy giant sound makes well worth rising 2 hours earlier every day to make for cold start.

[@Aleiria13]

I had a cool dream one-time that I got to restore an old locomotive that wasn't all that big, so I only kept one engine in it and changed-out its drivetrain to a Semi-truck drive system and had that as "my truck" for a while. Weird dream, but it was cool at the time.

[@fenix4706]

'love the smell of diesel first thing in the morning.... it smells like....Victory!

[@9walker]

Ruston V16's. Same engines are installed on tugs, 'Shaldar' & 'Tirrick' where I work. I must get some video of a start up and post on here. They sound exactly like this when coming to life. Instead of batteries, ours start with compressed air blasted into the cylinders in sequence to turn the engine, and are kept heated to a constant temperature, so fire up intantly, run smoothly, and may be put to hard work right away.

[@bababooey7576]

it was just the nature of that particular one. this one is music to the ears.

[@ArcturanMegadonkey]

Class 40 shows how to 'REALLY VAPE'

[@philipboehm9261]

ArcturanMegadonkey l

[@T67GS300]

Those turbos are amazing.

When the camera panned to the right at 2:25 and showed front of the train.... I half expected to see some dude using a crank to roll the engine over....😋

[@andydavies3472]

Or you'd see someone with jump leads hooking it up to a shunter

[@rick_porter]

Man, I could listen to that hunting idle for hours and not tire of it! Listen to those turbo's wake up! Sulzer V-16 with four turbo's if I'm not mistaken. Awesomw video. Thanks for sharing with us. Rick - Wisconsin - USA

[@RMPOWLS]

English electric v16 not sulzer

[@metaz69u]

Sounds like my 1969 Cutlass trying to start in the middle of winter.

[@notthepepperspray]

...just the sound of priming the pumps and draining the cylinders are music to my ears!

[@nigelterry9299]

Love the sound of EE turbos spooling up!

[@CreRay]

@vai2iant : Yep it is 4 stroke. It's a 247 litre V16, 4 valves per cylinder, turbocharged, diesel engine with direct injection. It produces (correct me if I'm wrong) 2000bhp at 1000rpm. These engines were not designed to start well from cold, I believe they have a quite low compression ratio to reduce peak pressures.

[@jamesedwards7241]

God I remember having to start a road full of those things on shed duty, winters morning and prep for a weeks running, still a nice engine to drive.

[@Vinclorthos]

Excellent !! amazing sound, a close second to the fab twin napier. Thx for sharing

[@singletrackmatt]

Glad to this vid back. Its an all time favorite of mine!

[@chuckvan1568]

Anyone who knows anything about diesel engines would not be surprised by this video. I'm not sure what would've been unexpected....

[@blacktiger955i]

Built in a time when silencers were for girls. Thank the Lord.

[@mikebryan7060]

OMG. What a beast of a machine.

[@phantom0621]

Oh my God - what a beutiful sound - music!

[@paralyzes]

Diesel stinks like hell, but watching these beasts NEVER gets old!

[@littlenige]

When I went on vacation to Mykonos a few years ago there were what appeared to be a couple of monster engines that resembled something like this, giving it all they had! Was like something out of an apocolyptic movie - totally surreal - awesome bits of kit. I think they were providing the power to run the entire towns electrical supply!

[@zvictorone]

i could listen to that all day.

[@MaartenvanHeek]

Somebody designed that engine, then showed it to his boss for the first time, and he was like 'yeah this sounds like a really good idea. Let's build a train around it' :D

[@sambaserenitysong8526]

Though the sound of an English Electric 16SVT is quite impressive. In the 1970s, emissions control consisted of: "No farting in the messroom!"

[@22fret]

WOW, this is the symphony of power...

[@md7512345]

i can smell the easy start from here :)

[@regsparkes6507]

Nothing to get excited about here,..It's much like any old style locomotive engine coming to life.

[@grantgilbert5022]

Those turbos sounds awesome!

[@craig1102003]

Grant Gilbert don't they just!

[@scotsguy422]

Class 40 - used to drive them! Never had one this cold before thought, mega surprised the batteries weren't totally flattened.

[@followthetrawler]

I'm sure there was an old Class40 in the marshalling yard at GEC Traction in Trafford Park in the early 80's. It was used as a test bed for electronics on trains of 'the futuire'

[@bangersfuzzy]

Diesel Gewitter mit Turbo Jodeln. Ein Symphonie für sich.

[@KCYinoz]

How can these and the deltics be so ugly yet so beautiful to the eyes and ears. Top video. It left me in tears. I felt I was hand cranking it (the engine that is). I'm exhausted. It's such a relief when you to hear it firing on all or almost all cylinders.

[@mikeclarke6537]

my friend I have NO wish to start some sort of argument going here BUT there was a feasibility study done way back in 1949ish that proved steam trains could run more efficiently and less polluting than diesels (they've actually done it in Switzerland ..true) .. If you have a valid point to make please make it BUT please there is NO need to be insulting or rude in your comments its brings you down not me and if I am a tree hugger I'm proud of it Bless

[@RNA0ROGER]

mike clarke The diesel engine is simply more efficient about 50% & it actually pollutes less. Look up coal fly ash.

[@PreservationEnthusiast]

+mike clarke Terrible pollution here. These old diesel and steam engines should be cut for scrap and melted down to prevent this horrible smoke which should not be allowed in the 21st C.

[@andrewjowsey1333]

heelfan1234....you have made the same comment on quite a few of these videos....Diesel is here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.Anyway,what happens when there's a power cut or there's damage to overhead power lines due to storms or vandalism?What do they use to keep the railways running?Diesel locomotives

[@DaveyJonesLockerwithJazzy]

Yes that's true, but the cost of maintaining a steam engine far out ways the new stuff

[@20PhantoM07]

Brilliant! i had speakers up quite loud , i was kinda pretending i was stood infront of it what a great sound!

[@SirHenryofRR]

Diesel: The clean alternative to coal powered steam locomotives.

[@Macintoshiba]

+Killian Keane well, better Than waiting 90 Minutes for steam pressure to build

[@inkyscrolls5193]

+Macin toshiba 90 minutes? You're hoping! It's usually around four hours, at least. You'd maybe get away with three if it's a particularly small loco.

[@Bevoin1970]

It's a nice feeling but listening to the sound of that takes me straight back to the 1970's and my time spent dossing around Bescot with my mates, usually up to no good.

[@Okanagan48]

Love that sound.

[@Smithyards]

Todays forcast : Heavy fog expected around the rail yard today in the early hours, will clear when they get the bloody thing started XD

[@jimmyvlogit1899]

It seems the prophecy on smoke breathing metal dragons was spot on. lol

[@2010monkeywrench]

Here's a little known diesel cold starting trick I learned in the oilfield many years ago on pony start Waukeshau's: 1. Close the rack and motor the big engine to build up cylinder heat - no injection at all for the first few tries. 2. After about 10 minutes of this (don't overheat the pony motor) you start injecting fuel. 3. Result - the big engine starts much faster.

[@mondeotje]

beautifull sound.

[@whackamole5893]

Cook thanks :) Man it almost looks exactly like this place over here in the states...amazing :)

[@POLARBEARLUFC]

I was all cosy sleeping rough in the shed behind when this fucking thing woke me up at 5.30am..

[@E800FLYER]

@MSJDesign the governor tries to maintain idle speed. the cold engine needs lots of fuel to keep running. the governor over compensates and too much fuel is injected causing the engine speed to increase beyond idle. the governor cuts the fuel to reduce the speed and overcompensates allowing the engine speed to drop too low. the cycle continues until the engine warms up and the governor can make smaller adjustments to maintain idle.

[@2010monkeywrench]

@tpvalley Many different ring types. The only heat generated before ignition is from compression, so any cylinder not firing is low on compression, or not enough atomized fuel available to power the start. Injectors have to be spraying at high pressure, not squirting cold fuel in the cylinder. We used to motor with fuel off to build heat, then slowly open rack. Less white smoke, quicker starts. Older engines require more tricks to start!

[@Aussie50]

Just 'cause it smokes, don't mean its broke! :D

[@jetstream454]

Fly high 👼

[@jeremiahlewis9296]

This is why steam engines is better

[@ph11p3540]

Listen to those turbos whine. So sweet.

[@andy126128]

grate vid from a few few years a go its lke its running on fire mote desial goood to see a classic desial running and good to see a saved loco from scrapper

[@MindRiot395th]

i love the sound that the turbos make

[@bangersfuzzy]

Diesen Sound liebe ich. Der Diesel Nagel vor sich hin und der Turbo jodelt.

[@BigWolfBoy50]

Love the sound of those old 2 cycle sub engines

[@jchristian8413]

are they 2 cycle ?

[@CreRay]

@@jchristian8413 Nope, 4 stroke

[@Shane-Singleton]

Living in Texas where everybody and his brother is driving a big diesel pickup truck solely for the purpose of being seen rolling coal on the street I have to say that I'm not a fan of diesels in that format.. However. That being said I love.. love.. LOVE seeing these old diesel electrics coming to life. Thanks for this video. Edit: And I'm not an eco-hippy. I drive a V8 muscle car. :p just hate the coal rolling. It's pointless and for nothing other than to be a spectacle.

[@MichaelCubstead]

I used to own a F-250-- I also don't get the coal rolling BS. Mess your engine , burn more fuel, just to be a pest.

[@TransportCambs]

Amazing! beautiful sounding.

[@AdrianWilsonBridders1234]

The best English Electric by far - love the Vee 16's

[@christianb9472]

I was hoping to see it backfire! Especially with all that fuel vaporized! Are the injectors specially made to vaporize the diesel fuel? I love the sound of the turbines high pitched whistle! Wish I was there to smell the fuel!

[@markbeale7390]

No they atomiz the diesel.

[@formidable38]

"Deltic" is greek for triangle, hence the consept of 3 cranks in a block shapped like a triangle. The Deltic engine is 2 stroke, has 18 cylinders and 36 oposing pistons. It was origonaly built to power landing craft during WW2. This is not a Deltic though, its a Class 40 with a more conventional V16 four stroke.

[@40022laconia]

proper locos lucky enough to have grown up with them in the late 70s until the mid 80s

[@andygreen6726]

Makes the hairs on my neck stand up! Beautiful sound