Pathfinder Magus Class Analysis

Welcome to the D6Damage Magus Class Analysis. The Magus is a combination of a wizard and a fighter. This class is meant for melee combat and spell casting. As you level you will unlock new abilities like the arcane pool, spell combat, and magus arcana.
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[@thegreatazal5021]

Honestly I just think whoever was trashing spell combat is probably really uncreative, it’s one of the better mechanics in the game and definitely one of the most fun.

[@Alaric11]

Magus is definately my favorite class, I was drawn to it because it reminded me of the elder scrolls spell sword, and spell combat is friggen amazing. Y'all need more imagination.

[@francez123456789]

It may just because the companions are built like shit but in kingmaker regongar was the absolute weakest character in the party. Of all the characters I've tried he died the most. (Dragon blood half orc magus)

[@Alaric11]

@@francez123456789 Magus is for the most part a glass cannon build relying on it's flexibility. Can't play it like a straight fighter or a straight caster. Takes a lotta micro.

[@colinsmith1495]

@@francez123456789 That may have also had to do with the fact that Pathfinder Kingmaker was a Real-Time-With-Pause system, which makes managing swift actions and spellcasting in a turn order near impossible. Play with the Turn-Based mod and it's a totally different game. Regongar becomes quite powerful as well.

[@theirishviking9278]

A normal house cat is deadly to nearly every level 1 character...

[@austinclark6185]

D6 your amazing, d10 your awesome and low key, d8.....you give me the feeling of stepping on a d4 in the early morning,,your just a pain

[@taffyadam6031]

Austin Clark your

[@30noir]

@@taffyadam6031 Don't you mean 'you're'?

[@taffyadam6031]

30noir I was pointing out his error, what

[@TomatoFettuccini]

It sounds like D8's main opposition to the Magus is that they suck at low levels. Exactly how many classes are awesome at levels 1-3?

[@d6damage93]

Very few, but most games we play rarely get to level 20, so the maximum level that the campaign is going to get to is something to consider.

[@TomatoFettuccini]

I've never been in a game that went past level 14. The Magus really does begin to shine at level 3, so holding out until then, while challenging (as it is for any class with a fractional BAB), is worthwhile. But aside from fighter, barbarian, brawler, cavalier, ranger, hunter, slayer, swashbuckler, and paladin, any class will be less-than-stellar at level 1-3. Wizards are atrocious at level 1, near useless, but I don't hear him complaining as much about them. It seems silly to complain about any class at those levels.

[@LitheGas]

I get the impression that d8 (I think; sometimes I lose track of who is saying what) really just wants to play AD&D...he's so negative and/or dismissive of everything that doesn't fit into *his* seemingly narrow definition of what counts as a fantasy pen & paper rpgs.

[@DjbozySTL]

I'm starting at lvl 1 in a shemdelver campaign as a necrovant. Plus 5%concealment, I cast obscuring mist. So, in first round I'm at 5 ft is 25%miss or 55%further, then cast shield is additionally a plus 4. So if you take dodge at lvl 1 and have turns to cast. O.m., with shield, 18 dex, and Dodge is now a plus 4(dex), plus one(dodge bonus), plus ten(natural for ac), plus four from shield,then go into total defense. ...27ac? I'm I wrong

[@DjbozySTL]

What anything is going to hit me at lvl1? Unless my dm is mean and cheats with 20, 20, 20

[@McOwnagez]

Yall are helping me build my Magus. Im so happy i found someone to further explain the classes to me!

[@d6damage93]

+McOwnagez Happy 2 help ;-)

[@Potleafeon]

Gotta say I appreciate using Geralt as a background to this video. He is my wife's first video game crush 😍 and she is currently playing a Bladebound Magus in Crimson Throne. Thank you for the breakdown.

[@kevinryan6197]

Interesting advice. I would have to disagree with Spell Combat. It's easily the defining ability of the Magus, as no other class can cast a spell and perform a full attack routine. Attacking the Enemy General directly while tossing a Fireball at his troops (as an afterthought) is just incredible. Also, Arcane Accuracy is limited by the Arcane Pool; it is not unlimited. I agree that the Medium and Heavy armor abilities come online very late. Taking the armor proficiency feats will not help however, as you will still suffer from the Arcane Spell Failure %, until you gain the ability at 7 and 13. The Magus does, however, have a decent amount of defensive spells on his list to mitigate this problem.

[@d6damage93]

+Kevin Ryan After looking through the Magus spell list, I found the spell Warding Weapon which makes spell combat a lot easier.

[@kevinryan6197]

+D6Damage There are some feats/traits that bump up your concentration, but it's still a pretty rough gig at the lower levels. Almost every class has those "growing pains" however.

[@SandonBranderson]

+D6Damage a common solution is to stay just out of range, cast the spell, then 5-foot in and initiate spell combat.

[@taffyadam6031]

“May gusses” Uh Magi Just like cactus/cacti, it’s Magus/Magi

[@garyledford2901]

Arcane strike trumps power attack for thus class by far. With weap. Spec and keen, weapon attack alone is nasty. With spell combat = SO MUCH DAMAGE

[@kbzoncapo777]

Kinda late, sorry. It is good but not amazing. Using your swift action really is a bottleneck. 1st round 90% of time you start with arcane pool enhancement on weapon, then maybe arcane acurracy for combating the minuses from spell combat. Maybe after lvl 6-7, once you have some nice bonuses to concentration and dont suffer from to hit problems, you can use it really well. But I dont usually take it. Feats are always short and as a magi, you want to oneshot stuff super fast

[@theheckler5878]

I might be mistaken I’m not an expert on this class, but I love the concept, it sounds like you need to 1)focus on hit not weapon damage that way you don’t loose out too hard by turning touch spells into normal attacks (because most weapons don’t hit touch ac) 2) don’t buy armor feat because you still suffer arcane failure until the appropriate level 3) focus int dex and con. Hopefully in a few levels you might be an effective member of your group? Oh wait you guys didn’t cover most of that because you argued about irrelevant crap... sorry this was the worst one of these videos you’ve made

[@elsydeon666]

You can also get an Elven Thornblade, which is a Martial weapon for Elf PCs, has a 18-20/x2 crit profile, does P or S damage, and gives a +2 to confirm crits.

[@gruknarorcishwar-yerhereto8489]

As a magus player. I’m dominating the party even at low levels.

[@colinsmith1495]

I'm building one for 4th level. I'm looking at doing 5d6 damage on a hit with Spellstriking Shocking Grasp, then get a second attack at the same BAB. Since I'm going rapier, I have a 3/20 chance to crit (and with decent Dex and Weapon Finesse, I have a decent attack), that means 10d6. Haven't actually run him yet, but I'm thinking this will be a pretty powerful character.

[@magwaaf]

Yeah this guy's an idiot... With pretty much everything he says here

[@Paul-zk9ou]

You don't have spellstrike right. You don't get a second free attack. You get one free attack to deliver the spell

[@colinsmith1495]

But that was their point. You get one FREE attack as well as a regular attack. Spellstrike calls out being used to modify Spell Combat, which functions like Dual-Wielding. So, essentially, Spell Combat let's you wield your weapon in one hand and your spell in the off-hand, and Spellstrike let's you then channel that spell through a free weapon strike, so you get two attacks with the weapon.

[@darkminer14]

I theory crafted, (I rarely play so I go around theory crafting) A vital-strike, magus, build using a few spells but one I really liked in my theory was a spell known as "Frostbite" Its a spell that does 1d6 nonlethal cold, but it does 1d6+1 per level, with no cap and you get a swing with it per level aka lvl 4 can apply it 4 times etc. The idea was to utilize both the power of that and a vital strike since you can only spell strike one attack to do something in the ballpark, of like 2d8+1d6+5 or whatever, and as I kept looking over this build it went from the glass cannon I've seen so many Magus' builds do and instead turn into a not as damage dealing dps but your damage is consistent and not all around that bad for a swing of a touch-spell per turn.

[@colinsmith1495]

The channeled spell isn't a touch attack any more. You have to make a regular attack with a regular weapon to get the weapon damage and spell damage. The Vital Strike combo is a good choice, though, and I'm aiming for the same for one I'm making.

[@deathknell609]

One of the disappointing things about the magus is that so few people use a strength based melee weapon. Normally they will go with a finesse weapon and have a high dex for ac purposes, but at later levels, you have the option to turn into monstrous physique, which will give boosts to strength and make some hard hitting two handed builds. One thing I find that can help midigate that issue is using tiefling and getting armor of the pit to give a +2 to natural armor at first level. Basically it is equal to wearing medium armor at first level and will eventually stack with medium armor and heavy armor much later. It might be a good option for that first feat.

[@colinsmith1495]

That's because you pretty much have to START at higher levels to build a STR-based Magus. Either that, or have some pretty reliable tanks. Low level STR Magi have to have lower Dex, but with light armor and a melee character, that's lethal. If your DM will let you re-train your early-level feats, then I could see some mithril medium armor being playable. At level 1-6, though, you really can't rely on Mirror Image for a whole campaign.

[@MrEvilGrin]

So how about this ability? Looks like it could- MMMMM UHHHHHH I DUNNOOOOOOO no And then you have this ability that can- OOOOOOOO UHHHH YYYYYEAAAH no You also have the option to- TSSSSSS ABOUT THAT no

[@sw33tacti0n9]

Geez D8 would annoy the hell out of me at the table. Also he is wrong a lot.

[@VirtuesOfSin]

Okay... So... According to d8, ONLY the fighter is good at "low levels" (Level 1-2)? Sorry, pretty sure this video gets better, but I'm looking for a review not a debate. lol

[@razgriz4977]

I watched the whole thing and it didn't get better.

[@thegreatazal5021]

*laughs in alchemist grenades*

[@tonanbora4388]

There are ways to increase the chances of getting your spells off in melee. One example, is casting Mirrior Image before entering melee, and then go nuts without casting Defensivily, at least until you only have one Mirror Image left. Or, cast Invisibility.In some cases, you might just want to provoke attacks, depending on the enemy/enemies around you, as the DC for the concentration check is 10 + damage dealt + spell level. But that is only if the attack hits, so if you have a good AC your opponnent will probably have a better chance at missing his attack, than you making the Concentration Check for defensive casting. Also, enemies can only make a single AoO, in most cases, so if your target has already made one, your safe to cast spells next to him/her/it.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

You can be a Polearm Magus with Spell Combat if you take the Bladed Brush feat, and then you can even get it on a Bardiche or Fauchard (18-20 crit!) with Martial Versatility, which you can qualify for as a 7th-level Human Kensai. In addition, a Polearm Magus doesn't have the problem of Spell Combat being hard, because you're attacking from Reach distance. With Bladed Brush you can even choke up if you need to do close-combat.

[@gonzotown9438]

Even low level is pretty good. Assuming you have 14 intelligence, you have 3 pool points to use per day, so a +1 to attack and damage for 3 separate combats, putting you on par with a full BAB class. And then you still have the utility of being a prepared caster.

[@deathknell609]

Oh, btw, as far as class than can cast in heavy armor...it is an archetype of the bard called Arcane Duelist...at 16th level. Medium armor prof and ability to cast in it at 10th level. There might be more, but that jumps out at me, especially because I played one once.

[@NatLopezOnYoutube]

Why is d8 always like this? Bro, who hurt you? Always so argumentative, petty, and debates semantics. No idea how y'all can stand this guy....

[@connarcomstock161]

Magus + UCRogue = the most hilarious arcane trickstser you've ever played.

[@d6damage93]

Sounds fun.

[@grandcaster8196]

D8 can't operate without armor lol seems my magus will make him rend out his hair 😆

[@N3bu14Gr4y]

Black Blades as sword canes: yea or nay?

[@d6damage93]

That would be cool in a campaign where you want to keep your sword on the DL.

[@N3bu14Gr4y]

I for one love the concept, although when one is randomly rolled for a gnome magus, the 1d3 damage is initially... underwhelming. Thank goodness for Weapon Finesse!

[@Thurmanator]

D6Damage by the way is their any way to have a one handed weapon as a light weapon then the black blade would be awesome with weapon finesse on a one handed weapon

[@johnwaugh5372]

Rapiers are finesseable

[@grandcaster8196]

TinyFoxTom yeah😀👍

[@sheepicusbahimus6447]

dervish dance takes away the need for str and arcane mark (level0 touch spell) 2 attacks every round

[@kanpai44]

how does arcane mark work, (i'm new) I have looked at it and don't really understand it

[@SandonBranderson]

+kanpai44 you essentially touch a surface and your personal mark (designed by you) is emblazoned on the object. Anyone who detects magic on the mark will know that it was you who left it, otherwise no special effects. The special thing is that it is a touch range CAN trip, allowing you to channel it with spellstrike in addition to spell combat, essentially giving you the benefit of basic two weapon fighting every round. Btw, the light can trip can also do this, is on the magus list, and just feels less cheesy to me.

[@ogion539]

Lol don't get pissed at each other. I'm a new pathfinder player who just build a samurai themed magus kensai, and you guys are really helping me understand stuff, so thanks! But don't get ad at each other haaaha

[@coryheine]

A great spell combo bladed dash a spell that allows a 30 ft movement no attacks of opportunity 1 attack in that time pe enchant your sword the turn before use the spell mirrored strike with meta magic feat empowered spell do double damage or strike another foe depending on your dm also use echo spell meta magic to strike 2 more foes or 1 more so in the end you hit 3 to 4 opponents with an enchanted sword with no possability of being retaliated on once I used this spell combo an delt over 150 magic damage between 4 enemies afterwards the next turn I then used bloat bomb causing the bodies to explode on the other enemies I missed so in conclusion magus op

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Played a Tiefling Bladebound Magus. Rolled some insane stats (three natural 18s one 17, one 14 and a 12) and got my GM to allow a bit of homebrew (GM's a Soul Calibur fan) to be brought in, a snakesword based on Ivy's Valentine. It kicks ass, and so did my character.

[@pursuinginsanity]

ANY PC with 97 total ability points will "kick ass." That's the equiv. of a 71 point build FFS. Compare that to the maximum of 25 allowed using point buy..

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

+pursuinginsanity We don't really do point buy. I wish the game lasted longer. The game went two sessions before it fizzled out. But for the duration of the game, he kicked ass. I actually kept up with the power gamers I usually wind up playing with.

[@colinbryan234]

I've found a great way to get the most out of the magus class is to use words of power instead of basic magic and go with the bladebound archetype.

[@marshmllodragon]

I have an Aasimar sorcerer, but I really wanted to pick magus. Luckily, there's rips in the time-space continuum in our campaign and my GM asked me to change either my race or class. Aasimar magus, here we come! ;)

[@taffyadam6031]

Tiny Marshmallow how did it go?

[@darthrvrz]

i have a lvl 10 magus in an ongoin campaing, two bladed sword and the two weapon fighting feats is my go with this class, proven to be very fun to play as support/control

[@colinsmith1495]

Doesn't spell combat limit this to light or one-handed weapons only?

[@pyroferno5746]

Yes and no, as a GM can say that a two handed weapon counts as having a free hand if you cast the spell first or last and say you take your hand off (like a wizard with a Quarterstaff)

[@colinsmith1495]

@@pyroferno5746 From the rules "To use this ability, the magus must have one hand free (even if the spell being cast does not have somatic components), while wielding a light or one-handed melee weapon in the other hand." While I certainly agree that a GM could home-brew an exception so you could use this with a two-handed weapon, the official rules say no.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

@@colinsmith1495 some 2 handed weapons are considered light, namely some of the elven 2 handed sword types. In some of the expanded books they also consider you being able to cast through the weapon via spell strike. This is how the arcane archer subtype of magus is able to use spell combat spell strike with bows/crossbows.

[@ShaoranxSakura1]

What do you think about the Kensai archetype? You lean more on the fighter side than the wizard, but the crit build with it releases some amazing damage. That also helps alleviate some of the spell failure that would happen earlier on. You are a little squishy at first, but you supplement that with shield spell, dex, and int (kensai adds int to ac).

[@d6damage93]

Canny Defense is one of the best things the Kensai gets since it's an intelligence based class the ability to add a dodge bonus to your ac equal to your intelligence modified really covers for the fact that you can only use light armor.

[@pursuinginsanity]

Er.. a Kensai cannot wear any armor, not even light. At least without using a proficiency feat and still suffering spell failure chances. Personally I prefer having the ability to gain extra AC via enhancement bonuses & better armor. All that on top of diminished casting.. no spell recall.. it's meh at best. IMO, needing a feat to wear (any) armor is ridiculous. You wear it, it does it's job. It's not something you need to learn - unlike using a weapon. I threw it out long ago and simply say certain class dependent abilities are lost when wearing armor heavier than normally allowed. One last thing - pronunciation. The plural of Magus is Magi. Do you call them "mag-eye" or "mahj-eye"? I see so many calling it "may-gus" rather than "may-jus" and that's ridiculous when put into context. It is not "mag-ick" spells you are casting, it is "mahj-ick."

[@SandonBranderson]

+pursuinginsanity well, as far as armor proficiency goes, it's more about adapting to the armor while wearing it in your daily routine, as opposed to using it. When you are no proficient, the only change is that your attacks and movement become worse, rather than the armor itself.

[@SandonBranderson]

+pursuinginsanity armor enhancement bonuses and special abilities can also be gained by using bracers of armor, which is usually standard with the archetype, that also stack with the canny defense ability.

[@joeleek9976]

JoJo is the best JoJo -wearing armor does limit what movements you can do. not being used to it, would indeed hamper the attack as you adjust to your new range of movement.

[@warlok9]

Im just finding this vid now. Been running a Magus for a few years now in different Campaigns. This is a great video that briefly touches on some things I have discovered researching and playing this class 3 times now from level one. Firstly, I personally can't stand the dervish dance model Magus and I'm glad not much time was spent on it here. I've spent hours making my case that a strength based Magus is so much more versatile in the long run and the the Dervish build Maguses are COMPLETELY USELESS at levels 1-3. I have found one unique Strength based path that is quite versatile and allows you to play the class in a way that I believe was intended. As I said earlier, one of the guys in the video touched on the idea of using a katana as your main weapon, but it was quickly brushed over. The Katana is simply the most versatile and damaging bladed weapon the class can use. If you choose Half-Elf as your race you can swap some class traits around and gain ancestral arms at first level and start the game with a katana without burning a feat on it! Also take the Gifted Adept trait (shocking grasp) and always cast that at one level higher than you are. The Katana can be used two handed or one handed and is the best combination of damage/crit range of any one-handed bladed weapon in the game. At first level you’ll be doing 1d8 +7 damage as your standard melee damage critting on 18-20. At second level you’ll have the potential to strike an opponent for up to 33 damage on a single attack (or 66 damage on a critical) At 3rd level you’ll have a non-situational attack bonus of at least +11 with your non-magical Katana. By 5th level you’ll be critting on a 15-20, exploding for a potential 96 damage on a critical. And this is just using your spellstrike ability. You’ll can also spell combat you Shocking grasp at a DC 17 with a +14 to your cast defensive roll. So you need to roll a 3! You guys said the max crit range was 16-20, I’m sure by now you’ve learned that it’s actually 15-20. (18-20 weapon with keen property is 15-20) No offense to the Dervish Dance builds out there, but I have no idea how you guys tough out the first 2 levels of the game being so useless, biding your time waiting for that 3rd level feat. And even @ 3rd level you are bare bones as can be, with a Crap damage modifier and no bonuses to help your combat casting. For the campaigns I play in, getting to third level can take up to 6 or 7 game sessions. That’s weeks of hiding out trying to not die, avoiding melee combat at all costs.

[@colinsmith1495]

Probably the same way wizards do. My Arcanist was near-useless for levels 1-3, though a few careful and strategic spells helped here and there.

[@kbzoncapo777]

@warlok9 Yeah, but in the end DEX > STR in the long run. Initiative, dodge > armor (avoid all sorts of nasty stuff when hit), better reflex save (cause magi is bad at it) and decent damage addition with dervish dance. Even with less dmg done with DEX, just the bonuses of init, reflex and dodge are already better than str, and they become even better when your party doesnt bother with the carrying capacity crap rules

[@stephenrippee5816]

I'd love to see a class analysis on the Brawler class

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

Magus and bloodrager were so brilliant.

[@alphajackal6648]

So I know this is a pretty old video, but I gotta say that D8's take is a pretty bad one. Let's do some math. Going by wealth-by-level, at 2, both the fighter and the magus, no matter what armor they are wearing, are likely to have an AC of 18 from equipment, or 20 for a sword and board fighter instead of two-handed or two-weapon. A magus will usually have shield active at later levels, but since this is so early, I'm going to assume all casts are saved for Shocking Grasp.. The rapier is the quintessential magus weapon, operates basically the same in the hands of a fighter unless she's two-handing, at which point we can substitute the statistically identical scimitar. For the purpose of this exercise, we'll assume the fighter has 18 str and the magus has 18 dex, giving both an extra +4 to hit. The Fighter's BAB will be 2, the magus 1. Using Spell Combat imparts a -2 to hit on both the spell and the rapier attack. So, the fighter's total to-hit will be +6, or +4/+4 if he's two weapon. The Magus will be +3/+3. Both crit on 18 or higher for x2, we'll ignore that to save time since they're equal. For Shocking Grasp, crit increases damage by 4.5% assuming the fighter has 12 dex. We'll assume at level 2 neither has gotten masterwork weapons. We'll assume the magus has 12 str. Sword and Board Fighter has a 60% chance to hit, a 30% chance to be hit by the magus' attack or 55% by shocking grasp. She's dealing an average of 4.5 DPR. She's taking an average of 5.2 damage per round. If we assume that the fighter and magus both have 14 con and max HP, the fighter has 24 hp, and the magus has 20 hp. It takes an average of 5 rounds to kill the magus(rounding up because there's no iteratives, thus the entire round must be spent attacking). The magus will also take 5 rounds to kill the fighter, and will likely win the fight due to having a higher initiative. Of course this comes with the caveat that the magus has not spent any arcane pool in this fight, but has likely spent all spells, so the math isn't all inclusive. The numbers will also vary a bit for the 2h or TWF fighter builds. It also doesn't include the 60% chance to take an AoO from casting, nor the 20% chance to lose the spell as a result, which skews it back towards the fighter a bit until the magus uses more resources. The point stands here though, even if you account for the needing to use more resources: Even BEFORE getting Spellstrike, the lynchpin of the Magus class, the Magus is standing toe-to-toe with the fighter, comparable in all aspects, trading staying power for higher damage spikes and the option to target touch AC. Magus characters are competitive for some of the highest DPRs in the game, limited only by spells per day. What makes D8's take so bad is that it's built entirely on gut feeling without any actual investigation. Criticism without foundation is just whining.

[@alexandersvideopicks8735]

Wow, D8 is really annoying, pretty much ruining an otherwise informational video. Otherwise great stuff.

[@CanMetan]

Lunge, along with the 5 foot step, is a crucial feat for magus. You've missed that in this video. Any magus without lunge feat is not worth playing.

[@d6damage93]

That's a great suggestion. Thanks.

[@warlok9]

Naa, Lunge is okay, but you can’t pick it as a feat until 8th level. By 8th level you’ll have Improved Spell combat and your cast defensive checks should be automatic.

[@TITONICS2]

I wish they put a list and showed written examples on the screen so I can read further in detail while they talk.

[@d6damage93]

+TITONICS2 What kind of examples r u thinking of the actual tables from the book or just a page number

[@TITONICS2]

Actual examples from the books, or soome unwritten rules about the magus. I am new to PFS so I am getting quite confused going through some of the books.

[@DjbozySTL]

As lvl 1 dex18. First cast is obscuring mist, second, cast shield, take dodge as feat. Cast o.m. next do shield. That's two turns but actually is high plus 3rd rnd let them get in atk go full defence is high ac. I love it

[@ephasm]

Oof this didnt age well haha. My Tiefling Black Blade/Kensai Magus is dex/int focused with an empowered shocking grasp that he casts at normal level and uses a keen katana. he crits on a 15 and higher, which also applies to the shocking grasp. His AC, initiative, and + to crit confirm is insanely high. At level 11 I once crit with all 4 hits in my full attack with shocking grasp and did a total of 332 damage which was almost ENTIRELY shock damage (with a little bleed) due to the black blades ability to change the weapon damage type. He's got Haste, Bladed Dash, and Dimension Door, as well as a variety of nasty little spells and a bunch of Pearls of Power. He slaps hard

[@grandcaster8196]

Transmutation and abjuration and conjuration spells fit more for magus 😁

[@shadowkras]

I would like to point out that Mobility does not increase your AC against attacks of opportunity, only against those caused by moving out of a threatened area.

[@shadowkras]

Mobility is useful with Acrobic Spellcaster though (from ultimate intrigue): www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/acrobatic-spellcaster-combat

[@ethanwright5051]

in my current campaign I have a TIefling Magus tank with the big arms as tiefling heritage and he has a gigantic sword now (actually Large)

[@tylermaitland8767]

armored magus trades spell combat for heavy armor stuff early. If you really wanna crit, inspired blade swash can crit on a 14. i dont know how well a multiclass between the 2 would work

[@spellister]

I thought it was just you there d6. its cool to hear there is others. I was wondering if you guys would be willing to do one of these on the Pathfinder Hybrid Class called Warpriest? I've looked it over and I understand how the mechanical issues work, but I'd like to hear your opinions. it does sound an awesome class though.

[@d6damage93]

+Spellister Mage Warpriest is a neat class it's like a less restrictive paladin

[@spellister]

Do you have a more favored way to play one? I see they can be played as a spiced up cleric or a fighter with tricks.... I kinda want it to be a knight, any recommended ideas. I don't mind it keeping the magic though.

[@alexlacoste3674]

+D6Damage what do you think of the occult classes a combo I have fond is psychic with psychic discipline Self-Perfection add mutation mind for a great ac

[@spellister]

Very reasonably put. Thanx.

[@d6damage93]

+Alex Lacoste I need to look more at the Occult Classes but they seem really cool the mesmerist looks the most interesting to me

[@coffeefrog]

Super helpful. Thanks so much!

[@d6damage93]

You're welcome.

[@reginaldtorres28]

So a spellthief, bladebound magus, and fucking elemental bloodrager walk into a bar.....

[@Foxandraven333]

OK woaaaaah, so provoking AoO is not a bad thing for magus due to the fact that it gets access to the the swashbuckler's "panache" powers that runs on you arcane points, you can parry and make ripostes, pretty much tripling your opportunity to attack each turn, you just take that risk to get dealt damage on the AoO. Another thing is with a Scimitar and the "dervish dance" feat, since your off-hand IS empty, you get none of the downsides and all of fun. and I don't see spell combat as two-weapon fighting, I see it as flurry of blows in magic form. Granted, it's not as good as monk in the beginning, but if you focus on Dex and only touch spells that disable and weaken your opponent they become a chopping block very fast.

[@olivergre1054]

Foxandraven333 your off hand isn't empty for that feat.

[@olivergre1054]

Nvm

[@TrombonePirate]

I feel like these guys have no clue what they're talking about whatsoever lmao. They know the numbers but have no real idea on how things end up when put together in play.

[@thegreatazal5021]

Honestly for me the biggest tell was thinking that armor is important for a class that gets mirror image at lvl 4

[@TrombonePirate]

@@thegreatazal5021 Yeah. It's like they just read the class mainpage and that's it

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

This is my favorite Class overall! ^^

[@young_dan_kee]

Perfect example of a Magus: Sasuke Uchiha

[@SEDresden]

I'm pretty sure that the archetype Arcane Duelist for the Bard can also cast in heavy armour, but I think it gets heavy armour proficiency much later.

[@taffyadam6031]

Dresden no u in armor my dude

[@HanaTheSloth]

Spell Combat is crap, Spellstrike is awesome. Get the right stats and you are a capable warrior that can cast spells alongside your weapon strikes. I am playing the Mindblade archetype and not only have a higher AC than my heavy armored characters, I also put out lots more damage. Only drawback is number of spells known. Scrolls and potions help make up the difference, however. Just be careful to manage your positioning and have a proper build through feats/traits, and you'll be super effective. Wands help too. And who wouldn't want to be able to psychically manifest whatever weapon you want? Not to mention that you get automatic enhancements. Talking about the Mindblade obviously.

[@kbzoncapo777]

You can just pay to learn new spells, or copy them from wizard spellbook. Not that expensive

[@HanaTheSloth]

@@kbzoncapo777 With Mindblade you only "know" as many spells as a bard. And you have the same progression spells where you can learn one lose one. It is an understandable check on what would otherwise be a slightly OP archetype.

[@KalaamNozalys]

I think that the best example of magi in other game etc, would be the Adepts from the Golden Sun serie.

[@nagrom_destroy3127]

any chance of covering the bloodrager class, looking into using it in my next game and would love some good advice as my DM admitted to not knowing the class well I thought I would ask you

[@d6damage93]

+Morgan Crowley The Blood Rager class is a hybrid of a Barbarian and a Sorcerer. How you allocate your ability score points or rolls is very important because you have three areas that you need to have decent scores in, strength which will affect your attack and damage, constitution which will affect the number of rounds you can rage, as well as your health, and your charisma which will affect your spells per day and the spell’s dc. In order of importance, I’d say its constitution, strength, charisma. Now like a sorcerer you have to pick a bloodline. I would say the three best are abyssal, draconic, and elemental. You can play the class a couple of different ways. You can either use your spells to attack from a distance and then finish your opponent off in melee or you can use your spells to enhance yourself before engaging the enemy. Hopefully that helps you out for now, until I can get an actual video made about this class.

[@magwaaf]

If you're crapping on spell combat then I'm sure you didn't get past 2 sessions with the character before giving up.

[@mikemike6808]

Such a prude " I was saying base not core class." excuse me fancy pants lol

[@lennardchurch8483]

How do you feel about a character taking 1 level in Magus for the ability to make mundane weapons into a magic +1, and then taking the rest of their levels in fighter? For the lore, you could say it is someone who flunked out of magus training, but didn't forget everything.

[@d6damage93]

+Lennard Church I don't really get behind the idea of dipping into classes. I think you don't get enough out of it.

[@soulthief1475]

Keen on a rapier goes From 18-20 to 15-20. Also if your a high level swashbuckler inspired blade, eventually you can get 14-20 highest crit range in the game.

[@scottyjennings4226]

Soul Thief what?

[@taffyadam6031]

Soul Thief your?

[@al881347]

Bladesinger.

[@solomani5959]

28:18 polearms don’t work with any magus abilities I thought.

[@brannonmcinnerney8053]

Pffft Eldritch Archer is bad ass

[@michaelihnen]

am i the only one who thought whip magus was an amazing idea? i mean especially with a custom whip sword it's practically cheating

[@christofferhougaard]

I agree. I know crit fishing is awesome, but whip magus is also very fun.

[@jmbutcher7616]

so i should go STR,INT,and DEX for my top three AB points

[@block4562]

Damn americans... let's walk through this together. Magic Mage Magi Magus Notice the pattern?

[@OdinIsOnOurSide]

with a e or a i you read g as j but with a u is just a regular g. And the way you read mage is the same way they are saying magus .So it is "maigus" and not "mágus". so the way they are saying isn't wrong.

[@jamesbrooks9321]

@@OdinIsOnOurSide so you're the kind of guy who says "christmas jift"

[@jamesbrooks9321]

@@OdinIsOnOurSide how good is the color jamut of your monitor?

[@jamesbrooks9321]

@@OdinIsOnOurSide how good is the jas mileage of your car?

[@jamesbrooks9321]

@@OdinIsOnOurSide Magus Etymology : From Ancient Greek μάγος (mágos, “magician”)

[@dmc8706]

It's not difficult to defensively cast with the Magus. I had a magus spell dancer archetype who and a very early level I think level 5 had no trouble whatsoever defensively casting level 1 spells every time he cast certainly by the time I got to the mid-range levels I never failed to defensively cast with that character. It's been several years so I don't remember offhand what the build was but I do remember that it was a combination of feets and the abilities that make it easier to defensively cast and potentially something else I'd have to go back and look at it but I did eventually get to the point Where I had a 0 percent chance of failing to defensively cast first level spells and I think by the time I was level 12 I was defensively casting 2nd level spells with a 0% chance of failure without even using all of the Magus abilities. I know that there is one Magus ability where you can take some kind of negative I think a negative to hit to get a bonus on defensive casting and I wasn't even using that and I was casting spells in combat with a 0% chance of failing to defensively cast

[@tylermaitland8767]

is it me or r 2 of 3 not that bright?

[@ode1975]

LOL Spellcombat doesn't work, LOL too funny... probably one of the most broken abiliries ever invented... it doesn't work... ahahahahah....

[@pantasticlaire3966]

Edo Franco i made a magus to hop in on a friend’s game later in the campaign. My character was a level 14 magus and I got into some side pvp and ripped apart the level 16 tank. I lost but we were both about 10 hp away from death. Moral of the story is spellcombat+maximised lightning bolt

[@grandcaster8196]

You really don't see it's actual potential evidently 😆

[@antwan1357]

Magus ? Mixing martial arts and magic wait this sounds like a battlemage then the point system sounds more like a monk using weapons

[@joeleek9976]

antwan1357 -it's a jedi

[@ickycleric7541]

God those 2 argue like a little girls.

[@geoffreytollefson8297]

Whom ever was the man to say "i think you should choose race and class separately" you are the real fuckin hero..... 10/10 to that man.

[@warlok9]

Keen rapier or katana would have a threat range of 15-20

[@samrobinson7654]

Gandalf has done like what 3 spells

[@d6damage93]

Let's see. light to get rid of the dark riders, heat metal when he ran into Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, then speak with animal with that moth. He gets around awfully fast, maybe he can teleport too.

[@ozzymccraw3407]

You guys disagree with each other way too much, I’m trying to watch a video about nerd stuff, not nerds arguing about stuff. Smh, discuss don’t argue

[@riadwumaier719]

I play human magus/rouge/arcane thief. If you crit you hit right? When you hit you hit hard right?

[@foolishgenius89]

im dissapointed in you d6... weis is the perfect example and you didnt call it out. only with pic

[@d6damage93]

+Topher Robeson Stone Yeah my bad on that one she really is

[@foolishgenius89]

+D6Damage its all good man, just keep it up. im enjoying the shift to you with other people to bounce off of

[@30noir]

Geralt is clearly an alchemist, though :P

[@d6damage93]

He does certainly mix a lot of potions.

[@drakey9658]

if you are a bladebound magus do you need to keep your spells in a spellbook? since they store in your black blade?

[@d6damage93]

Sorry, but I can't find any reference to that under the bladebound description. Where did you hear that it stores spells?

[@drakey9658]

my mistake I was thinking if the transfer arcana ability your black blade gets, my apologies

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I like the pic at 21:12

[@homerwood502]

is it just me or is the magus blah, not the same magic, but isn't the war priest so much better?

[@d6damage93]

Well, I think the magus has better spell damage and the ability to enhance your weapon is cool, but the war priest has the edge when it comes to straight up weapon damage and I think the war priest has a better spell list.

[@zenwolf3081]

How could a magus make use of two weapon fighting? In combination with spell sword or wand sword could be pretty good

[@block4562]

William Easten they can't

[@Aurilion44]

Yep, since they are already two weapon fighting. In one hand weapon other one free for magic.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

@@Aurilion44 correct on 2 weapon fighting, but some of the expanded books specify that the magus does not actually need a free hand due to them using spell combat and spell strike to cast through the weapon. This is how blade bound magus (and sword saint magus) uses 2 handed weapons and arcane archer magus uses bows/crossbows to deliver spells.

[@likskirtspleetscreen]

any website for pathfinder magus builds?

[@d6damage93]

The Pathfinder forums would be a good place to start.

[@scottypxiii680]

How many times can I use spellstrike as a lvl 8 magus?

[@fallengord3993]

Just binge watch over a dozen D6Damage vids. This is my second with d8 and d10, and I just lost interest. Sorry d6 only vids are fantastic, d8 is killing it for me,

[@Radiotomb]

This was really boring.