Dado / Rabbet With A Track Saw. The Festool HK85 and groove cutter.

Yep thats what it looks like a spindle moulder cutter block in a track saw! This isn't a hack, and I wouldn't advise you trying to achieve this!
Basically this is the HK85 saw, with the groove cutter block from Festool do dado cut, rabbet cut, housing joint and rebate cuts.
As I've been asked about it a lot I thought I'd give you guys a run through...
I hope you enjoy the video and as always I'm happy to answer any questions.
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[@HewAndAwe]

Thanks for watching! Any questions do you have for me about this tool?

[@nunyabizness6734]

"it's a prick"... best description of plywood ever!

[@HewAndAwe]

…especially those bloody labels glued on using the heat of the sun 😂

[@FixitFingers]

Now that I have never seen before.... dado stack on a circular saw. It might cost a pretty penny but those Festool folks do tend to come up with some brilliant ideas.

[@HewAndAwe]

They dropped the ball on the dust extraction on this bad-boy though 😂

[@fredjohnson4772]

the choir singing was a funny touch....

[@HewAndAwe]

Cheers Fred! 🍺

[@ryanwood6495]

First time watching your channel and I love it! The honesty down to earth, no frills information definitely subscribing thanks

[@HewAndAwe]

Thank you Ryan, made me smile! Hope youre having a wicked weekend! 🍻🍻🍻

[@ryanwood6495]

@@HewAndAwe I'm good thanks and it's always got to be be tight as chuff, none of that ducks arse malarkey 🤣

[@michaelkobzeff]

That water ship down cameo made me lol

[@HewAndAwe]

Cheers dude, to be honest I cant remember the whole vid, was some time ago! Hope youre well man!

[@SujMenon]

Nice, makes perfect sense for rabbets 🐰🐇. Makes it so easy. I had a tough time with 19mm router bit on my 1/2" router, and the rebate was a bit loose (nothing that glue and saw dust could fix though, but still annoying)

[@HewAndAwe]

I had nothing but a hard time with a router and bits even with cabinet grade birch, drove me nuts! The only way I managed was using a smaller cutter like 16mm then say if its a shelf going into a housing joint was to take the shelf part and take off a couple/few mm on the table saw using the blade like a dado stack making the thickness of the self 16mm and match the depth of the housing joint if that makes sense? A ton more work though... The other thing with a bloody router the cut may not even cut straight, twin blade/flute cutters really suck for that, twin spiral upcut or downcut cutters are much better but silly money!

[@HewAndAwe]

I should add if you look into spiral router cutters, the upcut and downcut depends on how its used, hand held or router table its to do with how the cutter gets rid of the waste.👍

[@SujMenon]

@@HewAndAwe yes, valid points there. I used the older twin flute cutters, not the upcut/downcut spiral ones. Its hard to justify the spiral bits cost for me, when the bits itself costs more than my cheap routers, Lol 😆

[@aslamalalo9083]

*Great saw **MyBest.Tools** and track for the price can't beat it although the blade could be better but easily switched out.*

[@HewAndAwe]

13 amp will do you fine but Festool to make tools for site use.

[@DavidLee-cw6ci]

I'm not trying this, not because it looks dangerous because HOLY CRAP that is an expensive cutter!

[@HewAndAwe]

Hahaha yeah makes your eyes water, worse still you have to have that saw as it only works in that saw, totalling the cost of a table saw (without the dado stack) saying that those dado stacks aren’t exactly cheap either. Hope you had a great weekend! 🍻😊🍻

[@markjarman7819]

Gnats chuff😂😂😂😂 you have another subscription 👍

[@HewAndAwe]

Haha I must look up how gnat is said, I’ve always said with a G 😂 Cheers dude, hope you’re having a wicked weekend! 🍻🍻🍻

[@markjarman7819]

@@HewAndAwesame as gnasher 😁 yes all good thank you. Keep up the great videos mate👍

[@MrBez007]

What an awesome bit of kit. Uk plywood is terrible and way undersized. I use an 11/16 router bit to cut housing for 18mm ply. It equates to 17.5 mm which is the perfect fit for wbp ply the local merchant supply. I'd prefer one of them dado heads mind.

[@HewAndAwe]

That’s exactly why I bought it, one day it’s 17mm thick the next it’s 17.5mm thick or 18 or… 🤦🏻‍♂️ someone needs to come up with a solution to the ply issue, FE doesn’t cut it warps like B&Q too.

[@be-veo]

I think everybody need to see makita 3501n same way i thinks 👍🏻

[@HewAndAwe]

This hasn't come to my radar before, first Ive heard about it. I cant find it anywhere to buy in the UK though...

[@be-veo]

@@HewAndAwe same me to, i think festool, maffel etc not to sell it in asia. well it make easy fot any joining wood 👍🏻

[@HewAndAwe]

@@be-veo If youre friends with Makita let them know I'll review it - looks sketchy though buddy!

[@be-veo]

@@HewAndAwe no man, there so manny brand but same tool with the same spesification, like what i have brand name is fujiyama GV3501 but the tool lookalike makita 3501N to with same any details, but my tools was so heavy 😅

[@HewAndAwe]

@@be-veo I was born with a heavy tool, so yeah I know what you mean LOL

[@EZEvans1]

Nice video. Where can you buy the? What is the exact name and model number? Thanks

[@HewAndAwe]

The saw is the festool HK85 and then you’ll need the Festool Groove unit vn-hk85 I’ve no idea where you buy from as I don’t know where in the world you are.

[@EZEvans1]

Thanks for the reply, I live in the United States

[@HewAndAwe]

@@EZEvans1 I’m not familiar with the US stores, but look for anywhere that stocks Festool tools, they’re originally made in Germany, Festool are very expensive anyway, so shipped to the states, I’d sit down to hear the price!

[@patrickweaver5290]

Where can i buy

[@HewAndAwe]

Dude check the comments, I’ve answered this more than a few times. 🖖

[@kevinnguyen5032]

So amazing! where can I buy dado set?

[@HewAndAwe]

It only fits that saw mate which is the HK85 it’s a beast!

[@discodmax]

Does it do housings in MDF that neat? Any tear out?

[@HewAndAwe]

In a heartbeat! No none what so ever. My only complaint is it doesn’t cut 12mm 😏 I hope you had a lovely Christmas! 🍻😊🍻

[@ChrisFranklyn]

6:56 Well that's going to give me nightmares! I'm a duck's arse man if I'm asked :)

[@HewAndAwe]

LMAO!!!! Cheers Chris, hope you're well mate, if I dont catch up with you before hope you and your family have a lovely christmas!!!

[@ChrisFranklyn]

@@HewAndAwe Same! Tis the season to eat, drink and be merry.

[@jeffreyknotts4148]

Tighter than a preacher's wallet!

[@HewAndAwe]

...at the Sunday morning stick-up! 😇

[@scottcallan3897]

I have never seen that with a track saw, that is great. Would that festool dado stack fit a Makita track saw? Great video thanks so much.

[@HewAndAwe]

I very much doubt it, how it slots in I imagine is a Festool thing, the guards definitely won’t 😬

[@scottcallan3897]

@@HewAndAwe Thought so, worth a shot. Really enjoy your work.

[@theflyingpostmane]

Great bit of kit! Not sure if you’ve been asked this already, but will this attachment work on a Bosch track saw?

[@HewAndAwe]

I very much doubt it bud, Ive certainly never heard of it being used on any other saw...

[@theflyingpostmane]

@@HewAndAwe thanks, just looking for quicker ways of joining panels instead of the pocket hole and dowel methods. Must buy a festool now🤦‍♂️££££££

[@danthechippie4439]

Will it fit the HK55

[@HewAndAwe]

No, not a chance - not enough power but its only made for the HK85 bud.

[@jasoncogle2848]

I do not like loose, like sleeve of wizard.

[@HewAndAwe]

Haha I'm gonna remember that one! Cheers Jason, hope you're well mate, hope you and your family have a nice christmas!

[@alanbrady7116]

Excellent review 👏 and nice little jig I agree on using template rather than measuring, I always balls it up. I like mine as tight as a duck's arse 😋

[@HewAndAwe]

I’ve realised a problem with it since then, common sizes are covered, you can’t cut 12mm or 9mm it would be way more useful if the cut range wast between 9mm to 19mm.

[@forbol]

Never measured the thickness of a piece of plywood in my life, fucking pointless. Just stack my dado set in he table saw and with a little trial and error, tight as a ducks ass or that other thing. Great Video!

[@HewAndAwe]

I've never had the pleasure of a dado stack in a table saw, difficult to get table saws with a big enough arbor in the UK. Do they come with shims like a 0.5mm?

[@forbol]

@@HewAndAwe Yup. The set I currently have (Amana) has two blades and 6 chippers (three different sized chippers). Its capacity goes from 1/8" - 29/32". With the blades alone, it will adjust in 1/32" increments. With the shims you can go as small as .002" increments. I wanted to buy the Forrest set but couldn't afford it but I'm real happy with the Amana set. All the the Dado stacks I've used through the years come with shims but even when you lose them I've used various types of paper. My set fits 5/8" arbor but the set comes in 1" as well. What size is your table saw arbor? Note: sorry about all the inch references. US should switch to metric, it's all the damn conversion back and forth that drives you crazy.

[@HewAndAwe]

@@forbol Oh bloody tiny! I can barely get my hands in through the throat plate, like the damn thing was made for a fucking leprechaun! If I was making cabinets I'd upgrade to a cabinet saw either a US version/type or the types used in europe taking up way more space though, thats the thing though I just need a very accurate jobsite saw cause of space at the mo. Oh no worries on the metric imperial thing, I grew up with mm, inches and some bell end talking in cm. But man it would be good if we could all just be on the same page - I get that mm is defo better but weight measurements works better in lbs. Saying that I went to a fabricator with a drawing, he told me to come back with imperial measurements, needless to say he didn't get the work from me. Just an FYI, its been bugging me for ages why messages are a mess on youtube and Im not seeing them all, seems if someone swears I have to dig deep to find the message and I only know you replied cause at the time I had Chrome open and a notification came on the screen, otherwise I would have no idea! So if I seem rude and dont reply its just cause I dont know about the message - its BS really and pisses me off, all be it I tell youtube my vids are not made for kids we all still have to talk like fairies! Pffft!

[@forbol]

@@HewAndAwe No worries, I never really expect to get replies from content providers. I don't know where you find the time. I had never heard that about swear words in comments, good to know, thanks.

[@ASelman]

@@forbol You can also adjust to suit with a Wobble Saw

[@cliveclapham6451]

Hm this looks like a repost of an old vid 👍🤭🤔🤣🤣

[@HewAndAwe]

Yep red handed 😂 it ain’t easy coming up with what to film ya know 😛

[@cliveclapham6451]

@@HewAndAwe yeah Ben but l just watched the original this morning ha would love and HK 85 and the housing cutter just have to make do with Festool double battery saw and mulipass 👍

[@chrisbrown33]

Tight.... Tight! I'll tell you about tight! I'm too tight to buy one.

[@HewAndAwe]

Hahaha!!! You’re into a wadkin table saw with a dado stack for the same dosh! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MarkL71]

I like mine, g'nats chuff. What's that cutter like on hardwood? Cheers 👍🏼

[@HewAndAwe]

…water tight 😂 it’s fine you just go a little slower or take more passes, can’t say I’ve ever done it in more than one pass. It is a messy SOAB though!!!

[@MarkL71]

​@@HewAndAwe thanks. I'll give it a go. Anything to save me switching table saw blades for a dado stack.

[@chrishibberd]

"... it's never 19mm, it's never 3/4inch, it's a prick!" Hahahaha, that's the best way I've ever heard it described, brilliant! Great vid too, I've always been intrigued how this works.

[@HewAndAwe]

Thank you Chris, I'm sure it was you who asked before about so I made the vid. A bit stuck for content to be honest... If there's anything else you'd like to see hit me up!

[@John-ep4hr]

Just found this guy today. Proper old school love it.

[@nicpye248]

Sitting here in the van having a chuckle. I prefer gnat's chuff.

[@HewAndAwe]

Cheers Nic, if a vid I make gets a laugh im happy! Hope you're well, be-lucky, Ben.

[@hassanal-hasnawy5746]

Thank you, it’s nice vedio, I think this is best way to make nice cut and grooves in plywood for DIYs because it more saver than using Table saw. I saw many accidents videos with Table saw if the workers loss the control.

[@HewAndAwe]

Yeah its safer but man is it expensive! Cheaper than a table saw and dado set mind you.

[@kieranpowis3632]

class bit of kit ive had mine a while now i did want the big hk132 for cutting big tenons but went for the mafell but the festool is an absolute beast. any idea where to get new blades for the block as ive just span mine to side 4 not sure whether then can be sharpened

[@HewAndAwe]

I think if I needed a saw that big I’d go for the makita cheaper, I wouldn’t be using it that much to warrant the better versions. That’s a good question, I haven’t turned mine at all yet, my first call would be to email Axminster asking them, then find them elsewhere cause they’re usually more expensive there.

[@rollovaughan]

Tight as a nuns chuff for sure. I’m not into the farmyard fun. PS. Subbed. !

[@HewAndAwe]

Hahaha Cheers Rollo 🍻🍻🍻

[@Barnagh1]

You can get router cutters sized exactly to plywood’s actual thickness rather than the nominal thickness. That Festool apparatus is nice though. The adjustability is the selling point.

[@HewAndAwe]

Not always, seldom find bit of ply that’s 18mm 19mm etc usually there’s .5mm in there. And it’s a lot more work setting up a router than a track and saw, saved me so much time over the years. Messy bugger though!

[@TuckerCustomShop]

I suppose I would need to know what the hell a “Gnat’s Chaff?!” Is.

[@HewAndAwe]

You know what a gnat is right, they're bloody small... "Chuff" is female genitals 🍺

[@kevinthomson6324]

Have to say before seeing this video the idea of putting a dado blade on a circular saw never even occurred to me in any way!!

[@HewAndAwe]

My arse cheeks were as tight as a ducks arse starting it up for the first time for sure! Beats having the stack in a table saw for sure.

[@RonKillian]

Awesome video. Love it :) Only question I have is where do I find the saw? Checked all the usual places and nothing. Though many things Festool are scarce these days, that might be the reason.

[@HewAndAwe]

Here ya go, www.axminstertools.com/festool-hk85-eb-plus-circular-saw-101682 and the groove cutter www.axminstertools.com/festool-groove-unit-for-hk85-saw-101977 shop around though I just did a quick search.. 👍

[@RonKillian]

@@HewAndAwe Thank you. I've heard people recommend them, but that version is UK plug and 230 volts. I am in the US :( Maybe there is no US version, why I have not seen it on the usually places. Thanks anyways.

[@Sly_Wolf_1]

Ga nats chuff 😂😂 like a ga nomes fanny, another blinder👍🏻

[@HewAndAwe]

I have to explain that one to some peeps 😂

[@Sly_Wolf_1]

@@HewAndAwe that's because the young'ns brains are wired differently these days, humour and jokes no longer exist.

[@HewAndAwe]

@@Sly_Wolf_1 it’s a US thing bud, a translation thing.

[@S.JCarpentry]

Just another tool I want to buy just a shame I have to sell everything I own to get it 😂😂

[@HewAndAwe]

I'm down one kidney and one testical - not sure I'll be able to keep this up 😂

[@S.JCarpentry]

@@HewAndAwe needs must 😂

[@acerjuglans383]

I had no idea such an attachment existed, thanks for the video.

[@HewAndAwe]

It does, but only for that saw and that brand, Maffel make another version too - but probably costs a kidney or two 😆

[@troyqueen9503]

@@HewAndAwe won’t be the first time I’ve needed a organ transplant.😂😂😂

[@CLCLTD]

How much is the kit

[@HewAndAwe]

I put two links to said tools in the description, about 1K.