Daemon Fulgrim Returns To 40K

[@akuinator6350]

His 30k version looks regal and princely. His 40k version looks like a zonked-out addict. I think that's the best way to sum up the differences.

[@margaretwood152]

🤔💬 Some flippin' *_Weird_*_ DESIGN _*_Choices,*_* there man. ( +'s ~&~ --'s ) A -_-very * mixed bag***-_- indeed.* ( i.e. I def. like some -&- I'll def. leave some. ) * (GW) " It's Christmas, so here's a Giant Daemon w/ Hellraiser-type 🩸 Flayed Skin, Kiddies.... *_Enjoy❗"_* ** 🟪⚔🟪 FW's Fulgrim Transfigured is a few magnitudes better - but this new model is better than the other 40K Daemon Primarchs by a country mile = 7.9-8.1 out of 10 )

[@mintyaroma987]

Given the lore, this is what it's supposed to be!

[@crayven]

That is exactly what he is supposed to look like. In the article it is mentioned that he looks affected by thousend of years of demonic warp influence compared to the 30k were he is still kind of in control of himself

[@rutgaurxi7314]

@@mintyaroma987 Don't read Blacked Library, and having actual physical Deamon Princes' 40K just suck ass, and takes it all away from your dudes. In my humble opinion.

[@malicant123]

He could quit warp-dust any time he wants!

[@dmrwade1948]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they have Titus kick the crap out of Fulgrim considering how much they've been trying to push him lately

[@KriusAerion]

Sitting on a pleasure planet and hoovering Warp Dust rectally for 10,000 years has really made him look like he belongs in the parking lot of a Dollar General bumming smokes. 11/10 I approve

[@BigBoyBillSneed]

I do prefer Fulgrim Transfigured but not so much that I'd pay the resin tax to have it over the 40k one.

[@Gapis321]

A matching paint scheme and these two won't look that different. fleshy tail is the biggest downgrade imho.

[@Fifthmiracle]

@@Gapis321 I think the fleshy body contrast the armor better. Hard to soft parts. Plus how much sensation can you feel through hard scales as opposed to rippling flesh. He is a daemon of sensation after all.

[@Gapis321]

@@Fifthmiracle that's fair. They couldn't do the ripped open skin if they kept the scales.

[@moderndavinci6599]

@@Fifthmiracle Yeah I much, much prefer the fleshy snake tail.

[@Dylanquinn666]

I really like it. After we were shown the 30k version I knew they would have to make the 40k Fulgrim more wretched, emaciated and creepy looking. I think they did a fantastic job with that. My only complaint is the hair. I'm not a fan of the 90s witch elf thing he has going on. Something more free flowing like the 30k version would be my preference.

[@01oo011]

Looks like an AoS model. Merry Christmas Mr Circle.

[@NP3GA]

That's a plus in my book

[@krilc]

@@NP3GA This. Last 5 or so years AoS has consistantly better sculpts by far

[@cornchaptermasterofcarmine5902]

Feels like the best Daemon Fulgrim would be a kitbash of the 30k ascended one this upcoming 40k one. Best Fulgrim was the unreleased prototype model for Horus Heresy.

[@rutgaurxi7314]

Feels like a model for a modelling channel to make big with, resculpting certain areas, like the hair, parts of the face, if not do the face entirely from scratch, stretch out the arms a little, etc, etc.

[@mikecarusone]

As someone who owns the 30K daemon fulgrim, the only thing I’d change is getting a spare pair of 30K wings and throwing them on the 40K model and maybe adding some green stuff to make the wings attach to the back easier. To show the transition from the elegant to maniac over 10K years

[@axcel9128]

@@rutgaurxi7314use sigvalds head?

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

30k for show 40k for play

[@margaretwood152]

Riight.

[@unkelTP]

30K for show, 30K for play.

[@JDSG360]

Outer Circle being positive?! Its a Christmas miracle! :p

[@wolfinstedd]

I can see 3rd party new heads being released down road to up-grade the plastic kit.

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

Well we got three fulgrim models now

[@hironagamaki9744]

No tactical rock. hooray

[@theylivewesleep.5139]

Fulgrim the dilated

[@samuelsanders5755]

Personally I think the 40k Fulgrim is more of Fulgrim letting the facade slip so his true depravity can show. Sort of like a vampire while the 30k one is still him relatively in control with his senses about him

[@izaakkemp8938]

I like the crab claw tail

[@PeteOfDarkness]

They should put pixel blur on his stretched pierced "tail hole" lol. I actually wish helmet had proboscis (and possibly tongue) like Seekers just to be different shape. Agree that blue skin and dark purple would look awesome on him (there is old artwork like that)

[@RSBurgener]

I would have given him a different face option. These expressions don't reflect how I see him, but 10k years have probably driven him mad. I like the tension in the attitude of the body.

[@mikev8746]

One of his face options looks so bizar to me lol. And the helmet option is also just weird. They should have really included one of this oldschool artworks for a face. Or a nod to it atleast

[@dalorasinum386]

Especially on the paint scheme, I’d say new Fulgrim looks like he was made for AoS.

[@WhatThe40k]

Totally Agree! It would have been so easy to overdesign and gaud-ify Fulgrim, glad GW didn't!🙌

[@gilbertzzz7110]

As i've said, in other videos, i can see where you are coming from, but your taste is too minimalist for me. I prefer the 30.k one, due to the armor and the streched demonic face. I was hopping they would do it more with this version, but i also find the 40k as cool. I like the wingspan and the spear, from the 30.k one, but i understand that gravity doesn't care about our models. I also think the hair looks inferior to the 30.k, but the new serpent body fits more than the 30.k rattlesnake design. I like daemon mortarin, however i can see where they can improve it, to look more like a dark reflection/mockery of its past self. But, no tar man, please. Even if he was supposed to be a husk of his former self, i would like for him to keep a good portion of his bulckiness.

[@mikev8746]

I always felt that people who complain models are ‘busy’ just have shaky painting skills 😂

[@Jfk2Mr]

​​@@mikev8746for centerpiece models such as Primarchs, sure, because you make one of them. If that's your rank and file that you need dozens of - may the god have mercy on you, because sculptors did not

[@KryptikXD]

Love the look, hopefully the rest of the range looks as good!

[@Dablo_Escobar]

I quite like this model and plan to get it when it's out. I can't afford the forgewold, not now at least, but I'm glad there's a plastic model now for him

[@nestorvetumbra]

Personally, I think what I like least is the rough transition between the skin and the horns, which would be more appropriate for a Khorne daemon. Since this model represents Fulgrim much more mutated after ten thousand years, I would have gone for his face to be reminiscent of the metal daemonettes: a single horn on one side of the head and the nose minimized to the point of making the face almost serpentine. On the other hand, I think the helmet is salvageable, especially if you are making a themed army around Noise Marines. It is true that a daemon would not really need to use it, but perhaps with some extra cables descending inside the gorget you can give it the appearance of a sonic mask.

[@Jfk2Mr]

Eh, I think this helmet would be better used to make a unique Noise Marine than on the Fulgrim, even if other face options look like he's a crackhead

[@johnroberts8793]

Aw, Macca gave GW a nice video for Xmas!

[@noquarrel2758]

They are both very nice looking.

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

The biggest part I hate is the belly and. Serpent body. I wish it was an actual serpent with scales rather than the sausage body he's got now

[@Fifthmiracle]

Its more like an eel than a snake, unless we imagine their very tiny scales.

[@lewiskenny7]

Watch them somehow bring ferris back in 40k to fight him

[@joshuaginn792]

Already hinted at his visage in the manifestations post Citrix Maledictum (sp?).

[@walt_man]

The Forgeworld Daemon Fulgrim's wings are soooooo huge, we can handle some suspension of belief for flight. The 40k version.. well if you told me it was any Slaaneshi special character, I'd believe you.

[@anthonylulham3473]

Same for angron for khorne tho.... Only Magnus and Morty retain their individuality.

[@Fifthmiracle]

What? No other Slaaneshi daemon looks like Fulgrim. Yes having 4 arms, horn, and a least one crab claw are the theme; but their are no other giant armored snake daemons. Fulgrim wouldn't be mistaken for a Keeper for intance. No...Morathi doesn't count and she only have two arms anyway. 😂

[@MiszAgrippa]

Not much salt? Did Santa replace our Macca or something?

[@mikev8746]

So you’re disappointed?

[@morgymomo8535]

Im dissapointed ngl, personally prefer the Horus Heresy "mini". The pajntjob is certainly not doing any justice.

[@TheRainman614]

The way I read the novels, Fulgrim shifts between his transcended version and human version frequently. At least that was how I read the fight between Fulgrim and Siggismund in Saturnine.

[@gaius2544]

Merry Christmas.

[@MrNurgle]

Smashed the play button so fast!

[@zackcook5123]

Ill be honest i really like the model. I like that he looks likeba demented crackhea. He's a complete mockery of what he once was. Gone is the regal bearing, Elegance has been thrown aside. This feels likeva reasonable evolution of Fulgrim.

[@John-bb4zm]

The icon is held in, its obviously a cloaca-plug

[@TheWarpForge]

I was pleastly surprised with how good the 40k Fulgrim model is. I was fully accepting that he was going to be a full-on let down after seeing Trollblood Angron. For the wing size difference I'm just gonna headcannon the reason they're smaller in-lore for 40k Fulgrim is because it's post-Rylanor events when a part of his pride was wounded.

[@edwardgates4090]

Honestly I think is a excellent model and I expect to see it more often in Heresy games than the resin version.

[@convertediron]

I think its funny that GW went with an old worn out crack addict leather daddy vibe with new fulgrim. Unexpected, but it makes sense.

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

I love how the 40k version looks like he's a tweaker from snorting too much Warp snow for 40,000 years.

[@MrAsassin666]

the snake's tail looks like an eel

[@joshuaginn792]

I like the Cenobite hole, but the icon in it looks off to me. As if the icon should have been in the muscle/organic.

[@StrixOwlStudios]

Looks decent to me, almost want to get back into 40k. Hopefully they have a chaos version of Phoenix terminators...

[@Nodwick123]

the 40k version feels and looks like a Temu version of the 30k one.

[@ethangriffin3935]

Overall I think that Transfigured Fulgrim looks better as a model, but Daemon Fulgrim will work better as a game piece. I love the Hellraiser type thing going on with the Slaanesh emblem though.

[@Tosicc567]

WE GOT A DEMON PRIMARCH THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS HOW HE SHOULD WHAT WORLD IS THIS?!?!?!? $100 on him getting smashed up by a loyalist primarch in his first book and doing absolutely nothing

[@dermajor4472]

Did you do the tracks in other languages yourself/ have them done or is that an ai KZbin feature?

[@thegiantratthatmakesallthe5055]

the tail on the 40k one looks like they took a tube of toothpaste, squeezed it and said "done!"

[@sonicwingnut]

They're both good but I prefer the FW model. I do think it's nice there's a decent plastic Fulgrim that can be used in 30K.

[@meatbasedveteran]

I like it too. Much better than that magnus pos 40k mini

[@Swarzyc]

Fulgrim spread his wings.

[@sonsofisstvan1675]

Why do we have a daemon fulgrim from FW before we have the 40k one? Seems they did all the other daemon primaries the other way… why haven’t we seen anything from FW magnus/angron/mortarion?

[@arcus9590]

Morathi just does it better ironically. Better pose, better wings, better motion, less stiff looking

[@gozewstuffnthings5837]

Does what it needs to do and mostly fine. Wonder who they got to paint it though.. not the normal style.

[@myrddraalhalfmen9524]

It would be great IMO if they did humanoid Fulgrim. He's showed up in his human form after ascending as seen in Saturnine, so we would have two distinct daemon Fulgrims, not the reskin of the same

[@jeffreychamouille3028]

So quick Macca!

[@cousinzeke4888]

I for one love that 40k is being turned into HH2. Why do anything new or creative when we could just have yet more fucking primarchs.

[@akumaking1]

How long until somebody kitbashes the two versions together?

[@knoxminis1211]

Probably going to sell my Tau at some point here and buy into Emperor's Children for 40K. I do like the proportions. The face options are the only questionable things for me. Maybe someone will make a better STL version of the head/face.

[@disgruntled_veteran]

I think it looks good. HOWEVER, I prefer the HH version.

[@Saunders-m6t]

Mac you too working on Xmas I love u guys work ethic but ur not even Americans straight killing it lol U are the best bro thanks

[@ZaynethFlow]

Bruh the positives outweighed the negatives in this review…is GW moving in the right direction????

[@danielquintanilla643]

They murdered my boy 😢😢😢

[@Erikjust]

One of the things i would want to change about the daemon primarch would be the wings. Yes yes i know daemon evil bat wings bla bla. Personally i thought they really only ever fitted Angron. I personally didn´t want them on Magnus, but that is more so because i think as the deamon Primarch of the god of change he should more or less look like how he is described in battle of the fang. Also he shouldn´t be needing wings to fly that is "beyond" him so to speak. As for Fulgrim and Mortarion i think they should both have feathered wings. Mortarion rotting wings ala how you might see on a dead bird at the beach. Fulgrim should have black angelic wings that is almost a mockery of those of Sanguinius.

[@sidtheragali1447]

Please deactivate the auto dubbing in the new videos

[@sergio9669]

40k wormgrim 😢

[@AlphaLegionTacticoolShitposts]

The 40k model is horrendous. No one can convince me this is a good looking model. It's too cartoonish and lacks the grittiness and menace of the 30k one. I like a lot of the chaos range so I'm not just super salty but this model is awful. The only plus for the 40k model is that it's going to be easier to transport

[@mikev8746]

All I am not sure about is the face. I remember the old artwork of him and for some reason I thought he’d look like that and be painted more purple. Also while different from the 30k sculpts I can’t help but feel they are still very similar. Which is fine but I guess I figured 40k would give us the 10.000 chaos tainted version of these ‘transfigured’ Primarch models they seem to be doing. So yeah now I’m wondering if Angron will also look very similar to his 40k model etc etc.

[@scoticvsgossage9378]

… Angron has been released for 40k Last year

[@mikev8746]

@ What I meant is Angron in his 30K form, come on man. Don’t just preemptively jump to the dummest assumption you can when trying to read my comment..

[@scoticvsgossage9378]

@@mikev8746 ah, I see the problem. I mis-read the comment. It was early morning for me, drowsy.

[@mikev8746]

@@scoticvsgossage9378 No worries. Glad thats cleared up.

[@Xfactor3521]

​@@mikev8746 Also, you meant transfigured Angron? Because he's turned into a full on daemon before the Siege, so GW will have to get creative with the model.

[@f4lenwarrior]

I'm not sure what to think of this.... I'd prefer a mix of 30k lower half and head with some of the 40k bits.... it's too hit-and-miss and busy for me. At least it's not a complete 1st draft..... Except those heads.

[@bertholdbach4959]

I admit, I like his smiling faces, they look creepy.

[@ivanivanovic5586]

Don't get me wrong, official demon fulgrim artwork shown isn't that bad, thing is, there are way better ones around. Modelwise, yes, 30k has better armor, color scheme of said armor, the gloved armor and better size wings. As for 40k one, helmeted head is ugly as all hell(designer could be facing either drumming or shooting in the slav lands).

[@sagacity1071]

At least if they do bring out Dorn Valrak will shut up.

[@RazielLordOfSecrets]

Dorn is dead also the best he's ever been too. This mini would look good in HH as well

[@WorldOfWeebcraft]

Ngl its growing on me

[@adeptuspotatocus6451]

I think this is another case of GW being unable to make pretty faces because that's the #1 thing that I don't like about this model. The snake body is weirdly plain, too.

[@h4rdboiled695]

Looks like AI made it

[@cadeatx6698]

30l with smaller wings is the best you can do. i dont normally dispise plastick gw kits but damn that primarch looks bad

[@margaretwood152]

🤔💬 Some flippin' *_Weird_*_ DESIGN _*_Choices,*_* there man. ( +'s ~&~ --'s ) A -_-very * mixed bag***-_- indeed.* ( i.e. I def. like some -&- I'll def. leave some. ) * (GW) " It's Christmas, so here's a Giant Daemon w/ Hellraiser-type 🩸 Flayed Skin, Kiddies.... *_Enjoy❗"_* ** 🟪⚔🟪 FW's Fulgrim Transfigured is a few magnitudes better - but this new model is better than the other 40K Daemon Primarchs by a country mile = 7.9-8.1 out of 10 ) 💗🎄🎅Thanks a trillion for the Grrrreat '24 Content, Macc. All The Best (& Merry Christmas) to you & yours ;-)

[@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject]

This is going to so wierd but I don't like it. I think the new HH one did the exact same thing better, also weird that we have 2 minis that are the exact same idea when other amrys done have minis they need. This mini was unnessry and a cash grab. They should have just made the old one playable in both and in plastic. ok so in canon demon princes don't age and the only one that can change is form at will is magnice. So it dose not make sense for the 2 minis to look different, also 40k players used to be able to run the HH primarcs in lists it's GW them self that pulled that. And fixed it by saying here spend more cash. And I don't care what people say about a business point of view as myself a business major understands the complicated world of business but look at companies like Arizona ice tea they have the option to raise their prices and choose not to this creates more goodwill with their fan base Goodwill will keep your fan base there through hard times games workshop doesn't care and just wants to squeeze the fan base for all the money they're worth which is a bad business decision because it means they're making more profits in the short term damming their long-term sales. But if a primarch so everyone is going to buy it because everyone loves primarchs over all GW his complete control of the ecosystem and 1 doesn't have to run them as two separate companies they choosing to do that and people have decided to reward them by writing them as two separate systems but the blades are showen to be the same. The black ones are so the only change would be the spear, but the armour looks radically different. I want to be clear this mini is a good mini and I understand if anyone picks it up. The wings are much better on this one than the old one. But stuff like the horns look different and feels like they just wanted to somthing different to make more cash from another part of the fan base

[@f4lenwarrior]

SPELL CHECK!!!!! Use it...Business major my left nostril. If you were, you'd know how to spell, good points though it is a shitty cash grab.

[@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject]

@ I am several dyslexic. Even spelling simple stuff is hard when letters and numbers keep flipping and moving.

[@f4lenwarrior]

@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject I'm also dyslexic, it's no excuse not to use a tool that makes it easier to be understood.... I'm autistic as well, and I don't hide behind it or use it as an excuse... You can make all the greatest points in the world and if they are not presented well they will be discounted.

[@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject]

@ I used the tool bro. My dyslexia is that bad that I it replaces the wrong words or when I use voice to text it puts the wrong words in.

[@f4lenwarrior]

@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject Spell check wouldn't spell the wrong words incorrectly, though. But I see your spelling has improved already... Congratulations!

[@Raygun9000]

Open mouth but no ridiculously long tongue. We can fix him.

[@aldrixlevy228]

30k version is better but 40k being ugly as shit kinda makes sense lorewise.

[@Pers0n97]

He really should have had a spear, right now he looks like he is lacking reach with his tiny arms and very long body.

[@hanoi_revolver]

It's weird, because to me it's the worst 40k primarch yet... i don't hate it, but It's so much below the resin one and the head is a no for me

[@kieranhoare7239]

i do love the new model, i just wished it had that segmented scaled belly like the 30k model, thats the one complaint I have it. I'm immediately getting it as soon as it comes out

[@reinhardtc.p]

Morathi´s AOS model looks better.

[@Vroomerz]

Do not like it. Now to watch the video.

[@loltwest9423]

Fulgrim's always been a pathetic Primarch. Him losing to Dorn was an excellent show of just how further he's fallen.

[@Osse-pl8xp]

He didn’t actually lose. He just got bored and thought the pain was annoying. 40k Fulgrim would probably just enjoy the pain tho.☃️

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Gorgeous mini. Looking forward to seeing you cry about it while pretending it sucks.

[@RobuteJBL]

Lol i wanted to comment something like this 😂 idk its probably one of those "yeah i take this hobby seriously and i have a youtube channel about it and i talk about it and the rules for hours but to show that im not a multi millions dollars company shill im just gonna be super critical of every model to show my superior knowledge like a movie critique " 😂 hes still alright i guess he is just passionate

[@TheHAZMAT221]

He literally said it’s the best 40k demon Primarch

[@mikev8746]

Credit where credit is due, Macca was very positive and reasonable in this video. And honestly has been for a while now. While I did notice similar quirks in the past as some have jokingly noted here. This really hasn’t been the case nowadays. We all grow and change. I think this channel right now is in the best state it can be.

[@mikev8746]

@@TheHAZMAT221Yep hahaha, I was gonna laugh and agree but then I watched the video first and it’s the total opposite. It was actually pretty great and he was more positive than my own initial reaction even.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@mikev8746 tbf, he was