Most Flexible Space Marine Shooting. math teacher explores Hellblasters and new Oath of Moment

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WarpHammer Math

WarpHammer Math

Күн бұрын

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@manny1manito2
@manny1manito2 Ай бұрын
ohh this is so cool! i use dark angels so this really helps me! did you do this in R? looks like stat though anyway i was just trying to figure out if how did you come up with the equation for this? so i recreated this with a montecarlo sim and i got a bit of a different result num_hellblasters
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. after seeing this I checked my own work and realized that the graphs on that slide don't represent how many models die... but rather how many get to shoot again after dying to hazardous. I'm going to have to make a short addressing this. thank you so much for looking out! I do my coding in python.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 27 күн бұрын
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@nickontheinternet
@nickontheinternet 25 күн бұрын
awesome job manny!!! thanks for the helpful insight
@Clawles82
@Clawles82 Ай бұрын
I've got a B.S. in Applied Mathematics, an M.S. in Applied Economics and I work as a Data Scientist and I am a Dark Angels player. I just found your channel and I have finally found the promised land. Thanks for the great video and I will be a subscriber for life now!
@ethanneher921
@ethanneher921 Ай бұрын
I work in Lean Six Sigma, and Data Analysis in Warhammer Tickles my brain just right.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
That puts a big ol smile on my face. Thank you!
@carloscaballeromoreno4853
@carloscaballeromoreno4853 9 күн бұрын
As a physicist who mostly does statitical physics i feel exactly the same way
@Chris-lr2qb
@Chris-lr2qb Ай бұрын
My Hellblasters one-shot my friend's Rogal Dorn the first game he brought it after spending 2 months as a new Dad painting it. Felt good and bad.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
thats the fresh paint curse.
@scolack123
@scolack123 Ай бұрын
When im playing casual, i never shoot or charge my buddy's new built or painted thing because 1) we dont get to play often 2) you only get 2 or 3 rounds of actual good gameplay 3) it sucks to lose the new toy youve been waiting to run and now you might be waiting weeks or even a month again if gametime is rare
@scolack123
@scolack123 Ай бұрын
5:22 Well, the apothecary has to recover 3 hellblasters for hos own points return But ALSO consider how much damage in points that returned hellblaster does to the enemy? If you revive 1 hellblaster, then that 1 hellblaster pumps out 2 to 4 damage on its next round, that could be another hellblasters worth of points taken from the enemy team
@caterhamflavouredimitationcrab
@caterhamflavouredimitationcrab Ай бұрын
7:02 having lethal hits lets the unit be more flexible, and of all the characters the unit could have, the Lieutenant gives the best buff, also giving fallback and shoot which can be useful against jail lists
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I really should have mentioned that. that is a huge buff to hellblasters.
@beardfistthegoldenone7273
@beardfistthegoldenone7273 Ай бұрын
Is the Apothecary not a good pick? I'm torn between the 2.
@roguevector1268
@roguevector1268 Ай бұрын
@@beardfistthegoldenone7273 I found that either the Librarian or the Lieutenant - defensive vs offensive buff. Librarian giving that 4+ invuln is huge, and the Lieutenant's lethal hits and fall-back-and-shoot rules lets the Hellblasters thrive in the midfield.
@Mark.Matthews
@Mark.Matthews 17 күн бұрын
I have run the lieutenant with them since ten and the fall back and shoot has been invaluable
@nickontheinternet
@nickontheinternet Ай бұрын
I HEARD LEAVING A COMMENT GIVES YOU AN EXTRA COMMAND POINT IN YOUR NEXT GAME! It’s on the internet so you know it’s true.
@nanoid314
@nanoid314 Ай бұрын
Fellow math teacher/Blood Angels player here. You can actually benefit from new oath of moment if you forego all BA specific datasheets (sanguinary guard, death company, characters, etc.). I'm not quite sure it is worth it since our special units are pretty good. I definitely enjoy that the variability is taken into account in your videos. Much better than those "just the expected value" comparisons I see elsewhere.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
ayyyyy! welcome comrade. / also I love my death company too much to give them up!
@redleg1376
@redleg1376 Ай бұрын
Its kind of wonderful that the best blood angels units are all the ones who aren't blood angels. But stacking the +1 to wound on OOTM with +2 strength and the stratagem to give their weapons the lance rule means that just about anything can be super dangerous in melee.
@nanoid314
@nanoid314 Ай бұрын
@@redleg1376 IIRC, you are capped at +1 to wound just as with hit rolls. While I agree that assault intercessors are very good in LAG, I do think that sanguinary guard and death company as well as the epic heroes are also extremely good.
@DarthCasus
@DarthCasus 27 күн бұрын
You can still take all the non-Epic Hero Blood Angels units as your divergent chapter's keyword of Blood Angels will be replaced with your chapter, but the Epic Heroes can't have their chapter keyword be replaced. You can still run Death Company and Sanguinary Guard with the new Oath of Moment.
@zagman7789
@zagman7789 Ай бұрын
i really liked what you did vs the lancer where not only did you show the percent increase but the new mean. the graphs today are great! really enjoying the content keep it up!
@cartledge_uk
@cartledge_uk Ай бұрын
^^ This, adding numbers tot he % is always good.
@krobi26
@krobi26 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Two thoughts.. You may actually want hazardous to kill your dudes so that they can die and shoot more. Dead enemies don’t kill hellblasters. These graphs get more interesting when you average in the chance of guys dieing and adding some shots. It increases the chance for the gladiator to just die rather than almost die. The lieutenant at 65 points is 28% of the cost of the 230 point hellblasters. Looks like the relative change between new oath and new oath + lethal hits vs a gladiator is about 25% (16.3-13=3.3…3.3/13 is roughly 25%) So you actually lose damage per point into ALL targets by adding LT if you use new oath. But there are benefits to having one big unit that deals extra damage and has fall back and attack. You can’t stratagem 2 units.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Oops. I never explicitly said it in the video, but all the simulations with overcharge included the extra shots from models dying due to overwatch. I was really proud that I worked that in and can't believe I never mentioned it! The rest of your points are spot on! Thats exactly why I was not sure about including the LT and I really appreciate you distilling that down. Right On! I appreciate the help!
@im_flat
@im_flat Ай бұрын
@@warphammer-math Just curious, do you know that a member of the competitive 40k community has been going by the name "Warphammer" for going on 5 years now? From the Warphammer blog
@Mark.Matthews
@Mark.Matthews 17 күн бұрын
The rule of firing again after shooting was nerfed, it only works when they die from enemy shooting
@krobi26
@krobi26 17 күн бұрын
@ or from their own hazardous. The change didn’t override the dev commentary on their datasheet. At least that’s how GW ruled it at their own tournament
@EonsOfBattle
@EonsOfBattle Ай бұрын
Hey! thanks for the kind words about my Mortarion. A fun combo for Hellblasters is an inquisitor. it's cheap at 55P, has a 2d6 flamer to help make sure those guants or cultists are wiped, and recycles a command point on a 3+ so a good chance that overwatch or command re-roll is free.
@DimitriMulkern
@DimitriMulkern Ай бұрын
Isn’t inquisitor for battleline only?
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Wow, I didn’t even consider that as an option. That would work suuuper well in angelic inheritors since you are pumping them full of cp!
@Johnnymarzo
@Johnnymarzo Ай бұрын
Inquisitor can't join hellblasters sadly
@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376
@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376 Ай бұрын
@@Johnnymarzorats you are right. I guess it’s still possible for a plasma fortis kill team.
@Johnnymarzo
@Johnnymarzo Ай бұрын
@@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376 this also seems bad tho imo
@badje5u5
@badje5u5 8 күн бұрын
onto my third consecutive video.. the mortarion one was terrifying.. I glanced up from building a chaos knight, and genuinely did a double take.. behind the very good beards and hair, you’re both incredibly handsome (and I am very straight).. well done gents.
@kirbypaje9143
@kirbypaje9143 Ай бұрын
Running my Hellblasters with Azrael and an Apothecary :)
@azrael1045
@azrael1045 Ай бұрын
That is one of my favorite setups
@sebbonxxsebbon6824
@sebbonxxsebbon6824 Ай бұрын
It is a brutal combo for Dark Angels
@sargentsalt4801
@sargentsalt4801 Ай бұрын
I was about to mention the apoth attached is so good
@IRdatank
@IRdatank Ай бұрын
Ran this in my most recent game. Great setup. However, lesson learned about trying to shoot out a Heavy Intercessor squad.
@kirbypaje9143
@kirbypaje9143 Ай бұрын
@@IRdatank Their defensive ability only works against attacks with a damage characteristic of 1, and when within range of an objective marker they control. Overcharged plasma shots should remedy that.
@matthewstoffel168
@matthewstoffel168 Ай бұрын
The quality of your videos has improved so much in so little time. This is amazing
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
we're trying to pay alot of attention to the feedback. AND I'm having alot of fun with it.
@heroneoss
@heroneoss 13 күн бұрын
Hellblasters were the first space marine box I purchased outside of the beginner paint set that came with 3 basic intercessors, and I haven’t had a single game where I was disappointed with their performance, they are an absolute beast of a unit, especially in a 10 man squad! PS. This channel is amazing, I am a fiend for this level of analysis, keep the vids coming! I’d love to see how the generic intercessors do punching up against things now with their new ability of doubling shots against a single target
@eThagrosh
@eThagrosh Ай бұрын
I regularly run LT with Plasma Pistol and Apoth with my Hellblasters. Reviving is always happening between hazardous and being shot at. Never been disappointed running that 12 man unit.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
with all the other investment... I think you might be right.
@catosicarius3262
@catosicarius3262 Ай бұрын
The points cost of the Apoth is easily worth the "1cp" tax talked about near the beginning
@karlnygren
@karlnygren Ай бұрын
I like how you show the chance to make damage instead of just the averages. Also being two people adds to the enjoyment as well, good video
@barttopo3392
@barttopo3392 Ай бұрын
10 minutes into my first video of yours and I'm loving it. I'm studying physics and I love theory crafting the craps out of everything. Love your content ❤
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I studied physics at ASU. I'm super stoked to hear this. I bet you irritate the crap out of your gaming group.... mine routinely roots against me. they joke its unfair that I use math to win everything.
@barttopo3392
@barttopo3392 Ай бұрын
@warphammer-math I'm studying in Bonn/Germany. They were just complaining that I theory craft more than I play. What should I say... they just can't see the beauty of a Gauss distribution 😂
@ValyaLoona
@ValyaLoona Күн бұрын
My math brain appreciates this kind of breakdown. It really scratches the brain itch.
@eitremn
@eitremn 26 күн бұрын
I loved the way you presented the data in this video! Great job!
@Kolobius
@Kolobius Ай бұрын
"2/3 of the time you are losing none or one" Seriously never happened for me. I lose 2-3 each time.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I swapped out a graph by accident while editing. You are actually likely to lose 1 or 2. 16% chance to lose none. I need to publish an update. I’m working on that now.
@AKJ828
@AKJ828 27 күн бұрын
This is very very important change dude!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 27 күн бұрын
le sigh... then I immediately got sick and wasn't able to address this. I should be publishing the update today!
@mikeszokola9098
@mikeszokola9098 27 күн бұрын
Honestly, your break down is fantastic. Love it.
@losmiercoless
@losmiercoless Ай бұрын
As a fellow maths person, I want ALL.THE.GRAPHS.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
i feel you. noted.
@RoryG90
@RoryG90 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely love the format, style, presentation and delivery. 10/10 and subscribed :)
27 күн бұрын
Statistics + flavor = I am loving this. The fact, that I am both Dark Angels and Death Guard player makes this video even more awesome. Keep it comig guys!
@J03FARR0W
@J03FARR0W 24 күн бұрын
You've inspired me to get my own excel sheet put together
@lordskyline9766
@lordskyline9766 Ай бұрын
When you said that reroll Hits changed the distribution of the curve, I would have liked to have seen that new graph for at least one of the scenarios
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
yeah, I'ma have to find a middle ground.
@lordskyline9766
@lordskyline9766 27 күн бұрын
@@warphammer-math Maybe keep the videos as is, but link to just a bunch of graphs in the discription for people who wanna see more details? Just dumping the slides into a google drive
@Milkymalk
@Milkymalk Ай бұрын
Yes please, more of this format! I love doing numbers instead of just hoping that I am sending the right unit into the right thing.
@jwrgoss
@jwrgoss Ай бұрын
The format is great, especially having the character and rules boosts on the right hand side
@michaelmcgreevy8969
@michaelmcgreevy8969 Ай бұрын
I wish I had you as my Math teacher. Love your work.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I love being a teacher. math can be so much fun.
@abortizzzz
@abortizzzz Ай бұрын
First time watching your videos. I legit thought you were having conversations with yourself. Even after looking at the pip’s of your faces, I was convinced one had fake beard, and the other was you. In all seriousness, great content. Love this. Thanks for the video
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
People mix us up all the time. :)
@infinitelycuriousbyoliviag3380
@infinitelycuriousbyoliviag3380 Ай бұрын
Absolutely great format the graphs and minimalism is keeps things manageable.
@wargamerwilly8756
@wargamerwilly8756 Күн бұрын
I had to google what a craw was 😂 under the "humorous" section it says stomach haha love the video! Wells and bhistles 😂 you all are hilarious! More videos please! This information is very much appreciated 🎉 🙏 ❤
@evidenz_
@evidenz_ 6 күн бұрын
I am sold. Not only on the Hellblasters but also on your channel 🤩
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! We have really been enjoying the process. We are so lucky to have found such an amazing community here!
@ElGordoBandito
@ElGordoBandito Ай бұрын
For Ultramarines specifically I’ve seen people giving them Lieutenant Titus as a leader. His Sustained hits give them a diet version of the Fire Discipline combo that got nerfed to hell and back for a lot cheaper.
@dylantan3124
@dylantan3124 Ай бұрын
Love this format guys! The spread helps to show the unit’s consistency and the breakdown of the buffs helps us determine what buffs or characters to add. Please do a best SM weapons video to take out the strongest units ie deathwing knights, death guard termies, c’tan! Love your channel 🎉
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Will do my best.
@crsmith6226
@crsmith6226 Ай бұрын
Something you didn’t touch on with the LT is that they also give free fall back shoot and charge.
@murdomackenzie4756
@murdomackenzie4756 Ай бұрын
You are brilliant! You have a great vibe and full of useful info
@dff8448
@dff8448 8 күн бұрын
Always cool videos! I love to have more graph because the way the result spread is difficult to have in mind during a game... seeing the graph is a good way to take it into account!
@BigL1999
@BigL1999 Ай бұрын
Now i'm more motivated to study for my statistics class haha, thanks for the content
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I love math soo much... I def undervalued stats when I was in school.
@Daft3Joe
@Daft3Joe Ай бұрын
Another one!! Heck yeah!!! Keep pumping them out buddy 😊
@deathshadow396
@deathshadow396 Ай бұрын
Thank you 🎉🎉
@deany2much
@deany2much 27 күн бұрын
First time seeing your videos. The amount of content and data onscreen was easily disgested. Great video
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. It’s literally the thing I stress over the most.
@deany2much
@deany2much 26 күн бұрын
@warphammer-math don't stress mate, continue making genuine content and we will continue to enjoy it
@CovenantOfFire
@CovenantOfFire Ай бұрын
Love the format and delivery!
@Schmuvness
@Schmuvness Ай бұрын
Dis video i liked. You got the audio of both speakers much better this time. Hellblasters are still a lilttle on the expensive side for my taste but you COULD run them solo now with new Oath. Adding titus in there and having them drop via Uriel f.e. sounds very versatile for 300 pts. Also: Don't forget you can add 11% dmg on average for all these shooting attacks as 1/9 of the time people die and shoot again. Very interesting here would be a comparison betwen hellblasters and new sternguard with titus respectively into new oath target. And concerning your question at minute 21: The depiction of info is just fine imo.
@lukeglendening4231
@lukeglendening4231 17 күн бұрын
Love hell blasters, loved this video. Putting hell blasters with fire disapline on the lieutenant is incredibly powerful. Sustainted hits and lethals on these guys are brutal.
@masterch33fII7
@masterch33fII7 Ай бұрын
Comment for the comment god! These videos are fantastic! I love the vibes and breakdown. So, my only input would be to maybe include the number of models attacking in your graphs, because I didn’t catch at first how many HB in the squad you were representing, so I had to rewind. Also try and use mostly chaos as your targets to jab at your friend lol. But these are great, keep it up!
@nickontheinternet
@nickontheinternet Ай бұрын
Really good point! I made those little data sheet banners so I’ll include that on the next one!! Thanks a bunch for the helpful feedback
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
yup, fantastic idea.
@Fymosis
@Fymosis 27 күн бұрын
I like the new data and graph format ! cool video =)
@ryanx8067
@ryanx8067 Ай бұрын
Love y’all’s format for this, it makes understanding the math of the game a lot more approachable. I think more graphs are interesting but totally get it if this is more manageable for you.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
thank you!
@ketofong2759
@ketofong2759 27 күн бұрын
Lol this is EXACTLY my thing! Love the graphs, love the Maths, more of that plz ❤
@joshuasmith5472
@joshuasmith5472 Ай бұрын
I just found your page, and I love it!!! As a blood angel player I'm super stoked to have found your page!
@MrShannon782
@MrShannon782 27 күн бұрын
I like the graphics and the graphs. The evaluation is awesome. I am entertained and educated.
@RavenFirstCompany
@RavenFirstCompany Ай бұрын
You and your bros dynamic is the best
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I love that guy. I feel so lucky to have him.
@WordsWorse
@WordsWorse Ай бұрын
BA player too - went through the same thought process as you and actually made the call to pick up a box earlier this week 🙌
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 19 күн бұрын
so far, field tests suggest you made the right call!
@kittyhead6147
@kittyhead6147 4 күн бұрын
as a statistics major student and a newbie in Warhammer 40k tabletop, this video is just amazing for me makes me want to do some more side project like this
@themaraca
@themaraca 28 күн бұрын
Now this is a superb take on warhammer stats. Love it
@karljacobs1384
@karljacobs1384 Ай бұрын
I'm also a Blood Angels player, coming back after being away for four editions. I play with people who are also math nerds - one of them plays Death Guard, and the other plays either Chaos Demons or Tyranids, so I enjoy hearing about simulations against these armies.
@Backscratchandhalls
@Backscratchandhalls 29 күн бұрын
This is beautiful. I for one vote for more distribution curves!!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 29 күн бұрын
Cool cool. 👍
@Questioningbasics
@Questioningbasics Ай бұрын
Thanks Auspex Tactics
@Ogresh
@Ogresh Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing the hellblasters! I like the new format for presenting the data too. :)
@Chris-lr2qb
@Chris-lr2qb Ай бұрын
Also yes I agree about Jay's Mortarion. What an insanely good model.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I wish I had that much courage with my color choices. Im trying... I find him really inspiring.
@bighairguy7
@bighairguy7 Ай бұрын
I basically always run a 10 + 2 (a mix of Azrael, a Cap, a lieutenant, or an Apothecary) in my dark angels lists to incredible effect, although I think of them as quasi-expendable. My usual strategy is to point them at a priority target early and take advantage of “for the chapter” to waste it in a turn or two (in my play circle that’s usually Dreadknights, tanks, or tyrannid monsters). Anything they do after that is a bonus. That said before the fire discipline nerf they did GREAT work against backline deep strikes with fire overwatch (with a captain to always keep them in devastator doctrine). My friend dropped a squad of grey knight purifiers to try and take my home obj but the hellblasters (down 3 or 4 models) managed to take out 2/3s of the purifiers squad. That said it was in part because we both ruled that the “critical hits always hit” rule superseded the 6+ on overwatch, meaning the hellblasters were hitting overwatch on 5+ (and getting sustain and lethals from a lieutenant).
@azrael1045
@azrael1045 Ай бұрын
This format is great, subbed
@duckdude8266
@duckdude8266 Ай бұрын
I don't play the table top yet but I love your content. It perfectly fits everything i want in a video. You have a great thing going. Keep up the great work! - Emperor guide us! Edit, I personally love the extra graphs.
@squiddy8336
@squiddy8336 28 күн бұрын
Love your channel my guy! Ive got one to run through your numbers, because I recently ran it through myself and honestly think it can one-shot anything in the game, even Morty! Black Templars, using the wrathful crusade detachment, but not including any BT keyworded units so still get the new Oath of Moment. Running the vow with sustained hits 1 army wide (melee). Ten assault intercessors led by a Lt with Sigismund's Seal (+1A to him, and critical hits on 5s for the unit). Popping 1CP to give them an additional -1AP. 36 chainsword attacks, three thunder hammers, six master crafted power weapons. Rerolling hits, +1 to wound, rerolling 1s to wound or full rerolls to wound on objectives. Sustained1 and Lethal Hits both going off on a 5+ (so can fish for both). For extra overkill fun against the dreaded Mortarion, throw in a captain with power fist, switch the enhancement to him rather than the Lt, pop his Finest Hour and use his free stratagem to give the unit the Anti Psyker 4+ vow for a turn too. With all his 9 attacks stacking anti-psyker and dev wounds on 4s at D2, he can potentially tank Morty on his own, although I suspect Disgusting Resilience would come into play (something which the 36+ chainsword attacks dont care about.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 28 күн бұрын
Love this, I’m saving this one. I wanna see what it can do against Morty so bad!
@squiddy8336
@squiddy8336 27 күн бұрын
@@warphammer-math awesome, would love to see it too!
@noisepollution42
@noisepollution42 Ай бұрын
with my extra cp for commenting, I re-roll my hazardous check
@willschuchat3445
@willschuchat3445 Ай бұрын
10 hellblasters with a lieutenant and the fire discipline enhancment from gladius has been a constant kill everything unit i love to bring.
@Peacocksgottafly
@Peacocksgottafly Ай бұрын
Not anymore sadly
@willschuchat3445
@willschuchat3445 Ай бұрын
@@Peacocksgottafly they're still great just costs a bit more
@bram8731
@bram8731 Ай бұрын
​@@willschuchat3445 no crits on 5 anymore
@willschuchat3445
@willschuchat3445 Ай бұрын
@@bram8731 oh damn guess that's what I get for not playing spacemarines for two months 😅
@chrisdrazan7918
@chrisdrazan7918 Ай бұрын
It just means you need to join the green brotherhood as they can still do the crit on 5s lethal sustained combo
@Herdatec
@Herdatec 11 күн бұрын
This is the kind of Math-Hammer the Internet was made for!
@D3licious399
@D3licious399 Ай бұрын
I was just hoping for another video by you!!
@kalslengulkdexa8692
@kalslengulkdexa8692 Ай бұрын
I think adding in a different colored graph behind the original base unit would be cool for each new version. so you can see how things change
@DrSomhairle
@DrSomhairle Ай бұрын
Love the videos, as a chemist I’m a bit of a data geek, I do prefer the previous format, but can work with this one!!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
still a work in progress... I agree with you.
@dannytran2134
@dannytran2134 Ай бұрын
Hope you guys had a good Christmas break guys, keep up the good work :)
@robertmcnamara1581
@robertmcnamara1581 Ай бұрын
Whoohoo new warphammer video!! Thanks guys love your work
@Da-Grey-Gobbo
@Da-Grey-Gobbo Ай бұрын
Kinda feel better that that is usually how I run my hellblasters. Though I usually only run five man squad. Thanks for doing the math on that guys.
@robertburns4
@robertburns4 Ай бұрын
Love your channel! I’d actually really like to see you roll some of these live. You already have a great vibe and rapport, to see you guys react to some live dice rolls would be really fun and interactive.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
we have been thinking about this..... maybe do analysis of some of our actual games and then seeing what actually happens. we are.... expressive and excitable when we play. I love this game.
@googs197
@googs197 Ай бұрын
The New format is nice, I think I did prefer the additional graphs but the new one for when you have so many additional groupings based on the character works really well to not get overwhelming. That said, I really appreciate around the 18:30 mark where when indicating the increase in damage you added the notation of how many wounds that actually calculated to. The ones previously without that notation were harder to follow quickly. Yeah I could do the math in my head but it was helpful you put it there instead.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
totally. That makes a lot of sense. thx.
@resammon
@resammon Ай бұрын
You are my favorite Warhammer channel on KZbin. Make more videos!!
@Naddabeht
@Naddabeht Ай бұрын
I think this info is awesome. I think the different targets and mean data with variations. I would like to see some info on Inceptors or Aggressors. The new oath of moment seems very strong for those units.
@ethanneher921
@ethanneher921 Ай бұрын
Having just completed my LSS Green Belt training, and using Warhammer to "practice" my math skills for said training, this platform really makes me happy; I knew I was doing something right. Requests: Ideally, Devastating Wounds pushes through 16.67% of your damage past the targets Armor/invulnerable saves. When is it better to hit large targets with Massed Dev wound, 1 damage weapons vs hitting them with anti-tank weapons. E.g.: Lascannons against Avatar of Khaine Vs Sternguard against Avatar of Khaine. Bonus (plus my favorite way to take out the Avatar): Salamanders Flamestorm Aggressors w/Immolation Protocols vs Avatar.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Good suggestion.
@simonoldfield9366
@simonoldfield9366 12 күн бұрын
This channel is a great find
@Beowulf102
@Beowulf102 Ай бұрын
I’m just getting into Warhammer Tabletop with the Dark Angels! I really enjoyed the simulations of the Hellblasters and I plan to run some for sure. I would love a math video on the Deathwing Knights I heard they are extremely tanky!Great video guys!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
they are sooooo mean. That is definitely on my short list.
@godrickilmister936
@godrickilmister936 Ай бұрын
Just now discovering your channel, I like it! And I have bad memories of two shooting rounds with my Azrael Hellblasters against Mortarion...he survived the game with 3 recovered wounds 😢 It was my 2nd game in 40k though...
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I feel your pain.
@michielkreuse610
@michielkreuse610 Ай бұрын
this is killer math👍. I would like to see more.
@DarthCasus
@DarthCasus 27 күн бұрын
I like, and prefer, to have all the extra information that you provide, it's very helpful. I prefer having the probabilities based on how many hits will go through rather than damage, unless the enemy has a Feel No Pain, then I prefer probabilities in Damage. In the example with the Terminators, if you overcharge you will need to have two hits go through on each terminator, since it's not based on damage, so a terminator squad of 5 goes down with 10 hits, not 15 damage on the overcharge. Just a little nitpick. Love the channel though, it's helping me immensely in my games!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math 27 күн бұрын
ill keep this in mind. thanks for the feedback!
@herbbreymaier6478
@herbbreymaier6478 Ай бұрын
Love the vs. model! Keep it up guys.
@bret7786
@bret7786 Ай бұрын
Great content! Thanks!
@Auronkast
@Auronkast Ай бұрын
I just started 40k back in october and this is super useful.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
welcome to the hobby. I started back in the 90's and I feel like the community has become sooo much healthier.
@RegiKusumaatmadja
@RegiKusumaatmadja Ай бұрын
wow! exactly the channel for me! keep up with the good work!
@RowanElletson
@RowanElletson Ай бұрын
I really love the breakdown with all the graphs that you used to have but I think that the more streamlined look looks a lot better now. Personally I think the new version is probably just a bit better to look at.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
ima see if I can find the sweet spot somewhere in the middle. Thank you for the feedback, comments like this are more valuable to me than I think people realize.
@ken4ger289
@ken4ger289 Ай бұрын
So if you wanna play a shooty focused space marine army, i`ll play hellblaster for all small to medium stuff ( w/o any leader) and for the big stuff i still play eradicators. Seems nice! This video was very informative thank you
@logantarr1725
@logantarr1725 Ай бұрын
WOOOOO I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
@owenchubb5449
@owenchubb5449 Ай бұрын
One thing you didn't mention is the lieutenant's fall back, shoot and charge. If you (likely) don't kill those 5 terminators and they charge you, you will not lose a turn of shooting when you fall back. That's iff the lieutenant doesn't just kill the termy
@aaronjames3833
@aaronjames3833 Ай бұрын
love this format more graphs would be cool
@stevenburton7725
@stevenburton7725 Ай бұрын
Since you were talking about an all melee army, I would suggest looking at the damage output of lightning claw Assault Terminators in Liberator Assault Squad. That is far scarier than people think
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
you are sooo right on this one. much better in LAG than anywhere else.
@resammon
@resammon Ай бұрын
More graphs, more info, more Mortarion
@viktorvh5511
@viktorvh5511 Ай бұрын
Please keep the old graphs, I do think they help to visualize. Anyway, love the banter, and amazing content, keep it up!
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Noted! thank you so much for the feedback.
@roadrunner250gt7
@roadrunner250gt7 Ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@Wraithiss
@Wraithiss 4 күн бұрын
Flashbacks to 9th edition when reroll 1's was trivial to get. These guys were absolutely savage... Unless they were playing into Custodes, which had a strat to turn off rerolls. They would on average lose something like 4 models out of a 10 man squad... It was hilarious.
@troyschaeflein3378
@troyschaeflein3378 Ай бұрын
These videoes are great! Id love to see a breakdown of a Forgefiends ectoplasma cannons. Its a big shooting profile that can be very swingy with dark pacts and or its hazardous/dev wound profiles.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
I almost did that instead of the eradicator video. I love this model and my brother plays it all the time. I'll prob do a video on it at some point.
@sillylung
@sillylung Ай бұрын
I'm really bad at math and even though I have like 3000 points of Ork I've never played a game of 40k so this video might as well be in Akkadian. But I'm still gonna watch every episode and hope it helps whenever I actually learn how to play the game. Oh yeah can you please show off yalls painted miniatures? I would really love to see them
@BrotherVeli
@BrotherVeli Ай бұрын
I'm just shy of 1500 points of marines and I also have never played game. Too bad we are not neighbours
@jibjibs9401
@jibjibs9401 Ай бұрын
@@BrotherVeliThis seems a little crazy to me. I have 2 armies at around 2000 points but can’t imagine having half as much if I didn’t play.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
Honestly, I LOVE painting minis! Its so relaxing and satisfying. I spend easily 3x more of my free time painting as compared to playing and it is at least half of the pleasure I get from the hobby. When I get a bit more of a following I will definitely have an episode showing off my army and talking about how I use the units. As for the math. I have always found that the math is not essential, but can help you build intuition faster. It takes longer, but you can come to many of the same conclusions just through gaming experience. Thank you for the support!
@sillylung
@sillylung Ай бұрын
@@jibjibs9401 when I got into the hobby I was only planning on painting and had no plans of ever playing the game so I could just paint the models whatever models I liked. Then I fell in love with Orks and just started building an actual army but it was during lockdown and none of my friends played so I couldn't go to a LGS store to learn how to play. Then next thing I know I have 1800 points of Orks, 1200 points of space wolves( I got the box set with Ghaz and Ragnar so why not start Space wolves), then I saw the Morty model and started death guard. Then I lost everything in a wild fire and had to rebuild my entire life so there was money for Warhammer. Then about a year ago things had settled down and I started painting as a meditation and bam almost 3000 points. I've tried to go learn how to play but I've developed such crippling social anxiety in the past couple years I just can't seem to make myself go learn. Sorry for trauma dumping.
@sillylung
@sillylung Ай бұрын
@@warphammer-math I would really love to see y'all's models and look forward to it.
@PomaiKajiyama
@PomaiKajiyama Ай бұрын
So glad I based my entire Space Marine army on these guys.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
dude, with 20 of them on the field..... boy, did I feel powerful!
@BBEMN
@BBEMN Ай бұрын
Love the video, super helpful. I'd love to see the numbers crunched on Sternguard, if you're up for it. I've got my eye on them for some flexible shooting in my next Blood Angels Angelic Inheritors list.
@warphammer-math
@warphammer-math Ай бұрын
on it!
@BBEMN
@BBEMN Ай бұрын
@warphammer-math 🤩🤩🤩
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