Daenerys' Mother, Rhaella Targaryen (Game of Thrones)

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4 жыл бұрын

The lore behind Daenerys, Viserys, and Rhaegar's mother,
Rhaella Targaryen from Game of Thrones / ASoIaF
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@sydnitheromantictaylor112
@sydnitheromantictaylor112 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why she was never brought up on the show. Daenerys never asked about her either. I wonder if she'll be talked about more in the upcoming books.
@katiGiaNaExeis
@katiGiaNaExeis 4 жыл бұрын
Uuuuh, Dany kinda, uuuh, forgot about it....
@kenn9689
@kenn9689 4 жыл бұрын
Cause every time her mother was brought up it made her brother go Tywin on her. Saying she killed her ect.
@mallowmallow2070
@mallowmallow2070 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenn9689 True but it's been YEARS since her brother died- I'm annoyed the shitty writers decided not to elaborate on that since they decided DNA is enough to turn someone into mecha-hitler. They talk about her father so much and nobody recognizes Rhaella for being a very kind, gentle, loving person trapped like a slave for all of her life.
@randybanks1504
@randybanks1504 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a spin off about the Targaryans in the works (from the creator himself)
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 4 жыл бұрын
mallow mallow what this got to do wit her going crazy tho??
@haydenrodriguez4670
@haydenrodriguez4670 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone always wants to talk about and compare Daenerys to her father (and after season 8, it's inevitable now), but I always wanted to compare Dany and Rhaella. What happened to Rhaella wasn't fair. She did her duty like she was supposed to, but I don't think she was ever happy in her life.
@kiritugeorge4684
@kiritugeorge4684 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody compares Dany to her mad father Aerys but they all always forget that Jon (In the show) is a Targaryen too and Aerys' grandson.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 4 жыл бұрын
Kiritu George but he didn’t go mad lmao only dany did
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 4 жыл бұрын
Rhaella didn’t go crazy tho
@haydenrodriguez4670
@haydenrodriguez4670 4 жыл бұрын
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince not all Targaryens go mad. But madness and greatness are 2 sides of a coin. Like King Baelor was overly religious and pious, and in my opinion that's a form of madness. Speaking of Jon, he is Targaryen, and madness runs in the blood and being the Mad King's grandson, he runs an even greater risk. He could easily succumb to it if something pushed him to the edge. Imo, show wise, being isolated in the far north, does not sound good for Jon's mental health.
@haydenrodriguez4670
@haydenrodriguez4670 4 жыл бұрын
And just because Jon also has Stark blood doesn't mean he can't go mad. Aegon V, Maester Aemon, and their brother, Aerion, all had a Dayne mother, and Aerion tormented little Aegon, and drank wildfire and died because he thought it would turn him into a dragon. So yeah my point is, Jon could also go mad too.
@yaboyed5779
@yaboyed5779 4 жыл бұрын
Finally something about her, everyone forgets about her
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@cjpatz
@cjpatz 4 жыл бұрын
The lore is so rich and detailed, you would think they were a real family in the real world!
@pinianna
@pinianna 4 жыл бұрын
@HappyFace Partly, sure. But I think it's more that he takes so much inspiration from history. Tolkien was great in many ways, but attention to details concerning female characters isn't really one of them
@s_shaddows.4939
@s_shaddows.4939 4 жыл бұрын
Clint Patac George is on another level he puts so much love and time and details even to the smallest ones. They botched the show that’s why he wasn’t on season 8 D&D ruined it and rushed it for a prequel people don’t want it and people’s said they won’t watch anything they do ever again bc it and want the books bad they changed Cercis prophecy and everything it’s stupid and don’t it for a spin off people won’t watch it. It shows you when the fans hate it who put years into watching it and a lot of money and the actors hated it and laughed and THE CREATOR HATED IT AND LAUGHED!!!! Ugh
@SapphireSolstice67
@SapphireSolstice67 4 жыл бұрын
Clint I hope not, this family would be terrible if they existed
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 4 жыл бұрын
j00st00s True, with the exception of Rhaegar, and that’s it.
@Aivottaja
@Aivottaja 2 жыл бұрын
@@thalmoragent9344 Rhaegar was selfish and he might have turned mad too in time.
@jaehaerysitargaryen7923
@jaehaerysitargaryen7923 3 жыл бұрын
Rhaella would've been proud of what Daenerys has achieved in her life. She never would have thought that her daughter would bring dragons back to the world and free slaves.
@jenniferbrewer5370
@jenniferbrewer5370 Жыл бұрын
I doubt Rhaella would've approved of Daenerys burning a million innocent civilians to death. Daenerys is in fact a war criminal.
@notbill08
@notbill08 Жыл бұрын
And than went mad just like her father?
@everythingdivine
@everythingdivine Жыл бұрын
@@notbill08 only on the weird show. Not in literature
@notbill08
@notbill08 Жыл бұрын
@@everythingdivine LOL! If GRRM ever finishes the books.....🤔
@everythingdivine
@everythingdivine Жыл бұрын
@@notbill08 a wish I still hold onto lol
@some_metalhead
@some_metalhead 4 жыл бұрын
When Jaime was a Kingsgaurd to Aerys, he was guarding the Queen’s chambers when he overheard Aerys raping Rhaella. As he had to overhear her cries of pain, he told the other guard Ser Darry that they’re sworn to defend their Queen, too. Ser Darry just said, “We are, but not from him.” I have to wonder if this was just another reason among the rest that Jaime finally plunged his sword into the Mad King.
@historiadelaciencia6860
@historiadelaciencia6860 Жыл бұрын
In what chapter and book does that happen at?
@tarunsharma4915
@tarunsharma4915 Жыл бұрын
@@historiadelaciencia6860 It is in the Feast for Crows, Chapter 16, if I remember right.
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 4 жыл бұрын
One of the sadder I moments I remember reading from the books is when Jaime has like a flashback of his early days as a kingsguard and is standing outside the royal couple's bedroom with one of his sworn brothers. They both could hear Aerys raping his wife and Jaime, feeling disgusted, mentions that they're duty bound to protect to queen but gets told "yes but not from him".
@historiadelaciencia6860
@historiadelaciencia6860 Жыл бұрын
Where does that appear?
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 Жыл бұрын
@@historiadelaciencia6860 Chapter 16 of A Feast for Crows
@historiadelaciencia6860
@historiadelaciencia6860 Жыл бұрын
@@Spongebrain97 thaaanks!!
@cosmicriptid
@cosmicriptid Жыл бұрын
I think they could hear her screaming "you're hurting me!" And when she left woth Viserys for Dragonstone you could see marks on her as though she has been mauled by a wild animal
@strawbawrri249
@strawbawrri249 Жыл бұрын
He mentioned that in the video
@damianallen8377
@damianallen8377 4 жыл бұрын
She was a very very strong woman in my opinion to have put up with all she did.
@riripari2042
@riripari2042 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. I would've tried running and starting a new life in some far off land because I couldn't stand a life as some broodmare shackled to my crazy brother.
@jessfawkes5727
@jessfawkes5727 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how 1 man invented this whole world with all these characters with their back stories, family trees, country’s, languages, cuisines, their own histories etc it’s just amazing. Your a genius George!!
@Producerukoh
@Producerukoh 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think that George RR Martin is peering into an alternate reality. These characters and backstories are too well thought out.
@user-ce5yh3zx4v
@user-ce5yh3zx4v 4 жыл бұрын
Too well👀
@aengusog3415
@aengusog3415 4 жыл бұрын
Moses Ukoh tooooo well
@karinalumen9722
@karinalumen9722 4 жыл бұрын
People's lives aren't this interesting.
@mekasa6721
@mekasa6721 4 жыл бұрын
But he wasn’t that smart to trust D&D for his life work
@abrarbw
@abrarbw 3 жыл бұрын
@@mekasa6721 They actually did a really decent job while the source material lasted.
@meloniejen8400
@meloniejen8400 4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how taxing it is for Rhaella's body to be getting pregnant THAT many times god damn
@alexiswaller3065
@alexiswaller3065 4 жыл бұрын
It was common thing among royal familys and heir and spare this is why henery viiii married so many times was to have male children because women were not supposed to rule
@meloniejen8400
@meloniejen8400 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexiswaller3065 yes many real historical women had to go throught this which makes it all the more GOD DAMN
@codename495
@codename495 4 жыл бұрын
Even in real history the duty of royal women was to bear as many sons as possible, daughters to be bartered and married for alliances and sons to carry on the succession.
@angiemitic4520
@angiemitic4520 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but if the timeline is correct she was married at 13 and gave birth to her first child at 14. That and incest were never going to be healthy for her and her children. Poor thing really, she deserved better.
@jamiemohan2049
@jamiemohan2049 4 жыл бұрын
9 seems normal for back then. Back then it was not uncommon for women to have 15 or 16 pregnancies. Even more, as many pregnancies ended in miscarriages they would get pregnant straight away. It's possible to be pregnant about 3 times a year in a continuous miscarriage, new pregnancy, miscarriage.
@MichaelJacksonFan001
@MichaelJacksonFan001 4 жыл бұрын
Rhaella reminds me of Catherine of Aragon. King Henry's VIII's first wife. Catherine had many miscarriages and stillbirths.
@mariaguilar4623
@mariaguilar4623 4 жыл бұрын
So would that make Dany similar to Mary Tudor?
@NefariousEvildoer
@NefariousEvildoer 4 жыл бұрын
Would be ironic since Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) liked to burn her enemies at the stake.
@KarenKSmith-tm2kp
@KarenKSmith-tm2kp 4 жыл бұрын
@@NefariousEvildoer Good point..I guess it would make her similar.
@jamiemohan2049
@jamiemohan2049 4 жыл бұрын
Except Rhaella and Katherine of Aragon had completely different personalities. Lots of Queens had many miscarriages throughout history. I do not think Rhaella is based on Katherine.
@Freya__
@Freya__ Жыл бұрын
Ceryse Hightower is based on Catherine of Aragon. She was one of the wives of Maegor the Cruel.
@sokokoko5512
@sokokoko5512 4 жыл бұрын
Rhaella had a very tragic life… she saw so many of her children die, and Aerys blamed her for that. She had to live in fear and abusement … She gave life to a gentle prince, a monster and a dragon. The prince died in the battle for his love, the moster was slain by the dragons wrath. The dragon was once hope for Westeros, but that hope became fear. While the dragon whispered her name in the East, the lion fought the wolf, and in doing so, the wheel spinned and crushed those on the ground. The dragon heard their voices and flew to the West, hoping she would claim what once was her mother's prison. Once a gentle heart turned into fire, and so the dragon was awakened… She burnt the lion's cage, and love she once wanted to share became hate. Their hope became fear. But the dragon had a weakness in her armor… love. Love for a gentle dragon raised by the wolves. And so the last of Rhaella's children died… If only she had a chance to meet her daughter and raise her with love...
@petew.7870
@petew.7870 4 жыл бұрын
Sokokoko #BEAUTIFULLYEPIC.
@ati7794
@ati7794 4 жыл бұрын
Sokokoko Damn this is one of the best comments I’ve ever seen in a comments section on a KZbin video.. well done.
@Gigipretty64
@Gigipretty64 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put. Excellent comment. Thank you.
@goliathtigerfishes
@goliathtigerfishes 4 жыл бұрын
Write some stories dude. I’m crying, that was beautiful.
@teacoon6399
@teacoon6399 4 жыл бұрын
Sokokoko Viserys wasn’t born a monster.
@teamblack204
@teamblack204 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if Rhaella survived the childbirth, things wouldn't be so different. She was not in a good mental state due to all the r@pes, abuses and isolation that she went through. It's hard to say what would happen if she stayed with Dany and Viserys during their time on Essos, but I clearly see her favoring Daenerys due to Viserys' narcissistic and paranoid behaviors. He would remind her of Aerys, I'm sure of it.
@epitaph3988
@epitaph3988 Жыл бұрын
Viserys probably wouldn't have become so paranoid and neurotic if he'd still had at least one of his parents. Daenerys at least had him as a sort of surrogate parental figure, but Viserys had no one.
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted more info about Rhaella. I wish we had a point of view from her, even though it would most likely be extremely tragic...
@rhiiyaevans4060
@rhiiyaevans4060 3 жыл бұрын
Sameee
@zahryiapaul1188
@zahryiapaul1188 4 жыл бұрын
The mothers Rhaella Targaryan Elia Martell Joanna Lannister
@crocodileranger8404
@crocodileranger8404 4 жыл бұрын
They suffered & endured the most yet they always get overlooked
@billionaire30xyz36
@billionaire30xyz36 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot LYANNA STARK-TARGARYEN
@chickycatibog7954
@chickycatibog7954 4 жыл бұрын
Who's Joanna Lannister?
@Izzie726
@Izzie726 4 жыл бұрын
@@chickycatibog7954 tywin lannister's wife
@chickycatibog7954
@chickycatibog7954 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@theautomator8372
@theautomator8372 4 жыл бұрын
Bought damn time someone talked about her. People are always so focused on Aerys they forget about Rhaella.
@rhiiyaevans4060
@rhiiyaevans4060 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@lmSheep
@lmSheep Жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate how in reality the Targaryens would look monstrous and hideous due to generations of in-breeding, and not beautiful as they are described in the books
@MotherOfWolves1313
@MotherOfWolves1313 Жыл бұрын
I thought about genetics when the new show came out and there are non-albino black people with white hair. I think that might be genetically impossible, but we ARE talking about a place rife with dragons, magic and otherkin, so I just kind of look at it like anything is possible in that world and we probably shouldn't compare it to this one. But you are so right. They would all look like King Charles II of Spain or that rendition of King Tut in our reality!
@Breadfish290
@Breadfish290 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I believe, if memory serves me correctly, that Mat Pat from Game Theory/Film Theory/Food Theory calculated her baseline inbreeding coefficient (a percentage of the appearance of recessive genes) to be at least 75%, which basically means that within thousands of recessive genes, she would have a 3 out of 4 chance for each. I suspect that the number is higher (more like 80% if I’m kind and 90% on the high end) because of all the noble house relationships. These people shouldn’t exist. Yes, some are negligible like eye colour and skin tone, but far too many are dangerous like club feet and sickle cell anemia. Inbreeding sucks
@peytonteague5965
@peytonteague5965 Жыл бұрын
Basically they blamed the madness they sometimes inherited (“when a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin”) on the inbreeding and that was about it
@fabiannedeaconti
@fabiannedeaconti Жыл бұрын
We have to remember that in the Fire & Ice Universe, whenever dragons were near, magic became stronger. Maybe it was magic that prevented the Targs from being as deformed as they could have been, or should have been. They WERE around dragons a lot.
@DarkSHadowI8
@DarkSHadowI8 Жыл бұрын
Well Aerys didn't do anything to keep himself presentable. The Targaryens are very beautiful but even the most beautiful person would look like shit if they didn't wash for years
@kierademian4855
@kierademian4855 4 жыл бұрын
In the show Dany is seen to be wearing a ring in every single scene of the show and according to Emilia it is her mother Rhaella’s. Not totally canon, but I thought it was a very sweet and sad thing from the show
@dylanmccool22
@dylanmccool22 4 жыл бұрын
Kiera Demian I actually think that is canon because in book 1 GRRM states that Daenerys and Viserys had only a sword a ring from their mother and their mother’s crown. Viserys sold the ring and crown which upset Daenerys which they didn’t include in the show
@heirokaisseralcazar1573
@heirokaisseralcazar1573 4 жыл бұрын
As far as i know, they sell all they're mother's jewelry
@cjpatz
@cjpatz 4 жыл бұрын
Kiera Demian it’s kinda like how Queen Elizabeth I remembered her mother Anne Boleyn.
@aengusog3415
@aengusog3415 4 жыл бұрын
Heiro Kaisser Alcazar they sold their mothers crown
@xo_kylem6735
@xo_kylem6735 4 жыл бұрын
She wore different rings throughout the show I think. 2 that I can remember are the one she dropped on the field while being surrounded by the Dothrakis when Drogon flew her to nowhere after the ambush in Mereen. The other ring was shown during the boat scene with her and the injured Jon Snow. It was when Jon pledged his allegiance to her and she grabbed his hand and it showed a ring different from the one I mentioned before. I don't know where she gets her jewelries from in the show.
@chaimae3652
@chaimae3652 4 жыл бұрын
We want Elia Martell plz
@whycreate
@whycreate 4 жыл бұрын
:o
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 4 жыл бұрын
We also need is Joanna Lannister and other minor characters like Barbary Dustin and Jon Arryn and his cousin.
@covenwitch399
@covenwitch399 4 жыл бұрын
@@whycreate Aww, I didn't expect you to do that lmao
@jenniferbrewer5370
@jenniferbrewer5370 4 жыл бұрын
Could there BE any more tragic figures in all of ASOIAF than Elia and her mother-in-law? Two very decent ladies who did not deserve their fate.
@damianallen8377
@damianallen8377 4 жыл бұрын
It's a wonder that Aerys never suspected the most likely culprit for the death of their children, their Grand Measter.
@malma2199
@malma2199 4 жыл бұрын
Damian Allen not to mention Pycelle was Tywin’s dog at the time too.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe it has to do with so much endogamy, contast incest reduces fertility.
@damianallen8377
@damianallen8377 4 жыл бұрын
@@nidohime6233 I doubt that, the Targaryens have been practicing incest for over five thousand years so if that's the case the Targaryens and all of the other 40 Dragonlord families should have long since gone extinct before the Doom. And I suppose in general that could apply to all of humanity we are after all a purebred species technically speaking we're all related to one degree or another.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 4 жыл бұрын
@@damianallen8377 They might sometimes wed with other families time from time so they still have healthy offspring and create alliances. The main reason they predilect their own relatives is to keep power but most of the time they do with cousins and half siblings rather than full siblings or parents with children, and who said they never had mistress or bastards in those families? And yes, all the members of a species are somewhat related one to another, if it wasn´t they would be different species and does cannot breed together. Is more a degree thing than anything. You might fall in love with someone that haves the same great great grandmother as you but since there are so many generations apart it doesn´t count as such, specially if said cousin´s ancestors have being having kids with non related people. Meanwhile the Targaryens had a long history of contast endogamy to the point they developed genetic deformities and a high rate of miscarriage and stillborns. And the closer the consaguinity the worse they get. That is why Raella have lost so many children because now most of her children are inviable cause both her and Aenys II had a consaguinity coefficient much bigger than the rest of Westeros.
@damianallen8377
@damianallen8377 4 жыл бұрын
@@nidohime6233 Yes all of the 40 original dragonlord families regularly intermarried with each other and after over 5,000 years of constantly doing that they're all as heavily related as possible. As for the deformities that the Targaryens develop the only deformities I remember them having is the Dragonic features that some of her stillbirth children were born with coincidentally the same draconic features that some of Maegor the cruels children were born with and it was found out that his first wife was poisoning all his other wives. Daenerys first child was also born with these Dragon deformities and that's because of What Mirri did. Never mind the fact that we don't really know how the rules of genetics would even applied to Valerian dragonlords such as the targaryens because they're not entirely human it seems that when they say they have the blood of the Dragon they mean it quite literally. And who knows how quickly random mutations would appear in the Targaryens since they have dragon's blood flowing through their veins. And if you were referring to this regular congenital disorders there's only what about what? a 4.4% the normal probability chance of it happening with close blood relatives if I remember correctly. As we have seen Rhaella had absolutely no problem getting pregnant her children just kept dying from either stillbirth or shortly after dying. Anyway while you do indeed make some good points. We know that the Valyrian dragonlords and other Valyrian Nobles had Mistresses and all that I mean Lys was pretty much created as a pleasure Retreat for them I'm pretty sure most of their bastards so to speak (since I doubt Valyrians adhere to the same belief of bastardry that Westeros does) they no doubt still intermarried with each other after all their dragon's blood was the key to them being able to bond with their dragons and probably cuz I'm being able to perform powerful magic there are clearly very protective of their blood so that still over five thousand years of inbreeding. The Valyrian Dragonlords like the Targaryens are similar to an isolated species that have continued to exist through breeding amongst themselves. Anyway I still say Pycelle waa the one murdering her children either on orders from Tywin or the Citadel or both.
@rwg1
@rwg1 3 жыл бұрын
If you read between the lines in "A World of Ice & Fire", Tywin was poisoning Rhaella so she would have miscarriages. When ALL of his access to her stopped, she gave birth to a son. Viserys, the son, survived because Aerys had the wetnurses supervised so their breasts could not be smeared with poison prior to feeding the baby. Tywin already ran the country as Hand of the King, but wanted his daughter to marry Rhaegar so that Tywin could gain all the power & consolidate it in himself & the Lannisters.
@seedless1927
@seedless1927 Жыл бұрын
Damn.... Backed up by the fact that he had rhaegars children publicly killed during the war
@danielmino1690
@danielmino1690 Жыл бұрын
tywin always was a monster
@rockyraaacoon
@rockyraaacoon Жыл бұрын
So i guess Aerys wasn’t exactly fully paranoid 😮
@AshePBlack
@AshePBlack Жыл бұрын
So we know about the mad king and Joana so was tywin poisoning her as revenge for his wife, or was it the other way around?
@rwg1
@rwg1 Жыл бұрын
@@AshePBlack I'm not sure. Tywin might have been taking revenge for the relationship between Aerys & Joanna, but I think Tywin was greedy enough for power to not need revenge as a motivation. The revenge aspect just made everything more appealing to Tywin, but power was the primary motivation.
@v-iii-b-59suyashkohachade87
@v-iii-b-59suyashkohachade87 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about brienne,arya the women on the battlefield, but I feel ladies like Rhaella and Elia Martel, Catelyn Stark deserves to be talked about more. These women are brave in their own way, full of integrity, loyalty to their husbands and Kings, love for their own children and empathy for other people. Ladies like this deserved more good it's devastating to me that these ladies have to go through such horrible lives 😢
@kryztyn127
@kryztyn127 Жыл бұрын
I beg to differ on Catelyn Stark. On the duration that she was alive on the books, all she did was to make bad decisions. 1. Trusted Petyr and arrested Tyrion causing the sourness between Lannister and Stark. Granted, she trusts her childhood friend and sister but is that even a good reason to kidnap Tyrion? Yes she did not know Lysa was delusional at that time. But seriously, kidnapping the son of Tywin Lannister is basically asking for your house to get exterminated. 2. Freeing Jaime. Sure, Robb pretty much doomed his allies when he married Jeyne Westerling. But hey, let me just free the most valuable prisoner. Nothing could go wrong. Pretty sure the only reason Walter agreed to the betrayal is because they dont have a foothold anymore. This also lead to Karstark retreating. She was grief stricken with the alleged death of Bran and Rickon. But why free Jaime? They dont even know if Sansa or Arya is still alive.
@serjaimelannister5152
@serjaimelannister5152 Жыл бұрын
She was a dutiful woman, didn't cause any problems, and tried to be the best mother as possible for her children.
@cristinademartini1284
@cristinademartini1284 Жыл бұрын
Rhaella Targaryen and Elia Martell>>>>>Lyanna Stark. I said what i said.
@dolphineachonga555
@dolphineachonga555 Жыл бұрын
Had she been more like Olena,she would have got rid of him and saved a lot of people from the bloodshed that came after. She was too good, too submissive for her own good.
@cristinademartini1284
@cristinademartini1284 Жыл бұрын
@@dolphineachonga555 i agree with all that you said, but unfortunately not all women were like Olenna. Still, she didn't run with some crown prince already married, unlike someone else did (in the series)
@LifeInPink999
@LifeInPink999 Жыл бұрын
@@cristinademartini1284 not sure what you said, but all I have to say about Lyana is that she was reckless and selfish. A raven from her telling that she was with the Prince out of her own will could have saved so many lives including the royal family. Elia had a horrible end because of her stupid husband and her lover deciding not tell a thing when they absolutely had to because it reached war. I guess my dislike for John kinda doubles knowing who was his mother, all that mess for such a insignificant kid and more insignificant man. The most boring part of the show and the book so far.
@cristinademartini1284
@cristinademartini1284 Жыл бұрын
@@LifeInPink999 That was exactly what i meant. I prefer Elia Martel (and Rhaella Targaryen) to that egoist s*** of Lyanna (who she so lamented Robert's unfaithfulness, but she didn't mind Rhaegar's one to Elia with her, did she?) a hundred fold.
@saldanamoreno
@saldanamoreno 4 жыл бұрын
I'm re-reading the series and just got "A world of Ice and Fire" That book reads like a real history book. For a History buff and fantasy geek its the equivalent of pure comfort food! I cannot wait for the next book!
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын
It's such a fantastic book!
@DavidGarcia-oi5nt
@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 4 жыл бұрын
Fire and Blood is out now too.
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 4 жыл бұрын
Fire and Blood written by a maester whosr character is similar to that of GRRM.
@ACinemafanatic
@ACinemafanatic 4 жыл бұрын
I read it and it’s amazing they’re gonna make a prequel based off the targeryns but they should make one of the destruction of old valyria which leads to Aegons conquest
@astoldbymuriel103
@astoldbymuriel103 4 жыл бұрын
Have to pull out pen and paper and take notes when reading that one
@schnarre0
@schnarre0 4 жыл бұрын
....I'm glad to see Daenerys' mother finally given some addressing!
@rhiiyaevans4060
@rhiiyaevans4060 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. My queen deserved and still deserves so much better! ❤️❤️❤️
@donalddeluxe6407
@donalddeluxe6407 3 жыл бұрын
I REALLY want to know more about rhaella, rhaegar, and elia. These three characters may have been the most interesting before their deaths and what their last thoughts on what rhaegar did when he took lyanna.
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 4 жыл бұрын
I love ASOIAF lore so much 🤙🏾
@astoldbymuriel103
@astoldbymuriel103 4 жыл бұрын
From my recollection no Targaryen female ever went "MAD". According to the show and apparently GRRM is ok with Dany will be the first. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
@ecthox-1mork909
@ecthox-1mork909 4 жыл бұрын
She didn't exactly torture animals for kicks as a child or enjoy watching people slaughter each-other, but Saera Targaryen was a bit nuts and what one could call a wrong-un.
@astoldbymuriel103
@astoldbymuriel103 4 жыл бұрын
@@ecthox-1mork909 I would say she was spoiled and permiscuous but not a bit nuts neither close to MADNESS
@ecthox-1mork909
@ecthox-1mork909 4 жыл бұрын
@@astoldbymuriel103 She was nowhere near as bad as Maegor or Joffrey or Aerion, but the Targaryen madness is believed to manifest in different ways at times, like with Baelor the Blessed or that other Targaryen who liked to run round naked. I just think it could've influenced Saera's behaviour in that same way without her being totally violent. One of my relatives has a brother who turned out like Saera and she couldn't work out how or why he turned out that way.
@qqq386
@qqq386 4 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra was kind of a cunt
@zuzka9045
@zuzka9045 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Saera wasn't mad, she was just ambitious and spoiled girl, who wanted atencion.
@charlesmorris8412
@charlesmorris8412 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels on youtube
@ssjdeadpool
@ssjdeadpool 4 жыл бұрын
Unquestionably
@mattyarbrough1101
@mattyarbrough1101 4 жыл бұрын
I knew there were other ppl out there who felt this way too. Love the lore vids.
@justinkruse7350
@justinkruse7350 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so appreciative of you continuing to do videos about the world of game of thrones after the show is over.
@ssjdeadpool
@ssjdeadpool 4 жыл бұрын
You see, this is why I love this channel. most other Game of Thrones channels do biopsies and stuff about like the main characters and then some will do theories but this Guy would think of literally anything in Game of Thrones and then make a video about it, and that's awesome
@bartsullivan4866
@bartsullivan4866 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video and fills in a lot of holes. So many videos were made on Rhaegar's wife and children but not on Rhaella. She has one of the most tragic stories in the entire saga. Poor girl never even had a chance. I am hoping Fire and Blood 2 will shed some light on more of her story.
@julieheckman1886
@julieheckman1886 4 жыл бұрын
Grandmother of Dragons
@codename495
@codename495 4 жыл бұрын
Julie Heckman I am my own grandmother of dragons.
@lesliesauceman8093
@lesliesauceman8093 4 жыл бұрын
It just makes Daenerys' turn in the show and likely Martin's books all the more sad.
@Lord_Of_Night
@Lord_Of_Night 4 жыл бұрын
@RunningErins There are entire forums and leagues of video essays explaining all the bad writing of Season 8. D&D messed up.
@RoseofSeattle
@RoseofSeattle 4 жыл бұрын
@RunningErins you're more a sheep for liking bad writing 🤷‍♀️
@RoseofSeattle
@RoseofSeattle 4 жыл бұрын
@RunningErins D&D season 7: Dany is not crazy and not her father Season 8: just kidding. She nuts Dumb fans: that makes sense even though there was no previous build up, years of positive character development and you literally said she wasn't crazy....
@epitaph3988
@epitaph3988 Жыл бұрын
Daenerys isn't gonna go mad in the books and anyone who thinks otherwise fundamentally doesn't understand her as a character.
@orleans-bourbon4500
@orleans-bourbon4500 Жыл бұрын
I remember read the book, when Jaime was guarding Rhaella's chamber, and he heard Rhaella was raped by Aerys, and he said that shouldn't they save the Queen? But then his sworn brother said that "they must save the Queen, but nit from the King." I cried :(
@viennperidot1119
@viennperidot1119 3 жыл бұрын
"The Gods would not allow a Bastard to sit on the Iron Throne" no wonder Cersei's kids have golden hair with matching shrouds..
@nellieken
@nellieken Жыл бұрын
What always shocked me was that Aerys got so mad and horrible as a king and somehow they didn't have him removed and install Rhaegar as regent until he died.
@deepthinker8063
@deepthinker8063 4 жыл бұрын
People that claim that jamie had no empathy from the beginning: -ugh can he die already?!?! . realizing that he wanted to help dany's mom from the mad king: -Oh, really? Wow, I didnt see that coming..
@alfredborden5675
@alfredborden5675 4 жыл бұрын
Literally one of my favorite channels on KZbin. Your hard work is appreciated.
@whycreate
@whycreate 4 жыл бұрын
The "GoT" on the timeline just stands for when the series begins!
@abdullahalazzawi5077
@abdullahalazzawi5077 4 жыл бұрын
whycreate where would you rank Daenaerys’ greatness amongst other Targaryens? Is she up there with Aegon I or not there yet?
@liver8547
@liver8547 4 жыл бұрын
the only good ASOIAF channel left. never stop uploading please i beg
@gayvinmcginnes2508
@gayvinmcginnes2508 4 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT! How did I miss that Ser Bonnifer was Rhaella's landed knight?! That gave me chills. I really enjoyed his character in AFFC. Can't freaking wait for Winds... even if the curse of Harrenhall is going to strike him down. 😫
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great video! I really enjoy hearing about the characters who don't get much attention. This channel is really great!
@watcherolic9930
@watcherolic9930 3 жыл бұрын
Woah a whole new season can be made with this past story... When young Jamie lanister wanted to guard queen rhaella. She suffered a lot.... She couldn't marry who she wanted.
@rhiiyaevans4060
@rhiiyaevans4060 3 жыл бұрын
I have been having this plan to stay writing a story since I've gotten obsessed with Rhaella. She deserved much better,my beautiful queen!!!❤️❤️❤️
@dreademperor2094
@dreademperor2094 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhiiyaevans4060 like a what if story?
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 4 жыл бұрын
The show is D+D fanfiction, the books is true source.
@PistachioDean
@PistachioDean 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought about the parallels between Rhaella and Johanna Lannister, or Viserys and Cersei. Maybe Cersei's downfall will parallel Viserys in some way.
@housestark613
@housestark613 4 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for and asking other you tube channels about Danny’s mom forever now!!! THANK YOU!!! No one ever does videos in her mom. Always just about her father!!!
@Tuffaluffakiss
@Tuffaluffakiss 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS! 💯
@highlyopinionated5611
@highlyopinionated5611 Жыл бұрын
Rhaegar practically isolating himself from early on, spending his childhood with his nose permanently stuck in books and scrolls instead of socializing and playing, might very well be a sign of his parents toxic relationship and his fathers madness affecting him a lot, actually. Very young children can get easily traumatized by a toxic environment and show it through odd behavior.
@kylaperia5665
@kylaperia5665 4 жыл бұрын
Your voice was so calming for me, thank you
@SelphieTheNutter
@SelphieTheNutter Жыл бұрын
All those still borns and miscarriages coupled with all the plotting and betrayals that happened daily in kings landing, its no wonder Aries lost his mind. It doesn't condone his actions but it does explain why he lost the plot. It also makes Raella very brave to be able to hold Rhaegar children without fearing Aries. Or dismissing Joanna without any fear. That says a lot about her character. Its a shame there isnt much lore surrounding her.
@cernunnos_lives
@cernunnos_lives 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are well done with your own style. Very watchable. The hard work is a worthwhile effort and it shows.
@whycreate
@whycreate 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@desentrioecsequece9888
@desentrioecsequece9888 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this for ages
@XoAngelFanyXo
@XoAngelFanyXo 4 жыл бұрын
Rhaella had such a hard life
@KaiPhD
@KaiPhD 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was great! Thank you! 💕💕💕
@blackandredbrian3515
@blackandredbrian3515 4 жыл бұрын
As you said Rhaella was named the Queen of love and beauty by Sir Bonifer who was only a landed knight. Isn’t it possible that these two had a love affair just before Rhaella married the mad king and Bonifer is really Rhaegar’s true father! Evidence of this is 1. Rhaegar was born “soon after” they were married. 2. Mad king has difficulty having healthy children with Rhaella but Rhaegar was easy and healthy because he had a different father. 3. After the marriage Sir Bonifer became super pious, very similar to what happened with Lancel after what he did with Cersei. 4. Ironically Rhaegar names Lyanna his Queen of Love and Beauty because tragically his real father did the same thing for a love that he could never have.
@YvetteArby
@YvetteArby 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I love your thoughtful insight into less known characters.
@Salamon2
@Salamon2 4 жыл бұрын
It's my head canon that in a different world, Rhaella would've run away and married Bonifer Hasty in secret... and then cause a rebellion, inevitably.
@kaibagirl1790
@kaibagirl1790 Жыл бұрын
That would have been an interesting story to see. Especially as Aerys's popularity only decreased more and more and if he doesn't have Rhaella, he has no children. No children, no heirs, no line of succession to continue the Targaryen dynasty. And even if Rhaella's husband is a Bonifer, her child (in this case Rhaegar) would be: 1. A Targaryen by blood 2. A true born if his parents married before his birth 3. A son
@adrianjohansson8937
@adrianjohansson8937 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a Video on the Brave Companians? Also, great video. I love when you make videos on the smaller characters in the ASoIaF univers.
@bobthedopeman7327
@bobthedopeman7327 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the mad king didn't wed Rhaegar to Cersei Lannaster and made Jamie Lannaster a kingsguard just to spite Tywin.
@tl-fn7du
@tl-fn7du 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking of Rhaella makes me cry, every time. Same for Daenerys when you go by the show or books. Honestly I am rather disappointed in them still; horrible write off. Though looking at both of their lives; Daenerys *is* Rhaella. It’s almost ironic; just how closely everything aligned. Forced marriage, but Dany finds love. Viserys and Aerys... Yeah maybe different exposure and circumstances; but they were both abused by their brothers - and hello WHO IS THE WOULD BE TRADITIONAL BETROTHED TO VISERYS? D A E N E R Y S. Oh, look, piece of candy-! Like, enough of the Mad King is now Mad Queen bs. Use your brains, look at clues, read between the lines guys - actually pick up a damn book; it actually explains more and is 100 times better than the show will ever be. And yes the show was amazing. Books still make the show look like trash - from season 3 on, they did good keeping it close in 1 & 2.
@emmaball6437
@emmaball6437 4 жыл бұрын
ε૮αȶε૨เɳα ɖεѵเlყɳ ૨σωε ღinFAMOUS - Legaciesღ this is so true love this thanks for posting
@AshePBlack
@AshePBlack Жыл бұрын
I think what it is is their dragon blood, targaryens arnt most stable people and most of them don't start mad, they snap. And books explain what happened to dany. Plus dany didn't go mad because her father did. It's in house Targaryen they over hype the dragon thing so there's pride, lack of restraint etc but it doesn't have to end how it did for Danny, or even her dad for that matter. If the phrase burn them all contributed to his madness, why would you ever tell a Targaryen to burn anything
@joe9739
@joe9739 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how mad Rhaegar must have been, going to show your psycho dad your first born, and he makes a sick race joke..
@KOUdance
@KOUdance Жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff. Thank you for putting this video together
@gslmakeup8040
@gslmakeup8040 4 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, thank you
@lotus___freedom
@lotus___freedom Жыл бұрын
House of Dragons made me revisit the history of GOT. Thanks for this video 💜
@melissas7980
@melissas7980 Жыл бұрын
so happy the YT algorithm recommended you to me. I really enjoyed this video and have always wanted to know more about Dany's mother. You have a new subscriber. ;-) Thank you!
@ichibanhero500
@ichibanhero500 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Keep them coming my friend
@Bellz89
@Bellz89 Жыл бұрын
This was so insightful!
@tatianatrivino5851
@tatianatrivino5851 4 жыл бұрын
So fascinating. Poor Rhaella.
@lydiaquinn2892
@lydiaquinn2892 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely enjoyed this. Thanks!
@jillargos7729
@jillargos7729 4 жыл бұрын
That was excellent.....more!!
@renatacantore3684
@renatacantore3684 Жыл бұрын
You are an Awesome storyteller. Your voice is perfect. The images were great. I only wish that the story wasn’t so horrific. This was a truly excellent video 🏆🏆🌹
@RikJSmith
@RikJSmith 3 жыл бұрын
I just saw your Back Story about Oberyn Martell. Amazing job , dude. After watching it a couple of times I immediately had to Subscribe to your channel. And now I'm going to watch all of your other Posts. Stay safe. 🎸
@deannas2778
@deannas2778 Жыл бұрын
That kind of explains why Viserys was so messed up in the head.
@miranda13c
@miranda13c Жыл бұрын
Oh how different things would’ve turned out had Rhaegar survived and Robert was stopped. I’m so curious about how different Jon Snow would’ve been had he been raised by his true parents and Lyanna hadn’t died in labor.
@SarSantiago
@SarSantiago 4 жыл бұрын
I really need to finish the book series, I got so wrapped up in the show that I stopped after the second book, but I think it’s time to dive back in!!
@louellabelle868
@louellabelle868 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Barristan Selmy's voice was gold.
@wandilethenjwayo1162
@wandilethenjwayo1162 4 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soothing
@judeau9151
@judeau9151 4 жыл бұрын
a video about what you think will happen in the next book would be amazing! Or how you would’ve continued the HBO show. Predictions or hypothesis maybe?
@dorylaions
@dorylaions 4 жыл бұрын
this is by far the best asoiaf channel. keep it up mate
@whycreate
@whycreate 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cyka
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 4 жыл бұрын
Which other channels do you watch? I'm just wondering if its any I don't already watch.
@dorylaions
@dorylaions 4 жыл бұрын
Lore wise, CivilizationEx is also a fine channel. Not as high production value as this one tho.
@dunkelcarriere3225
@dunkelcarriere3225 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a good video to wake and bake to. Thanks man.
@KindredSpiritJosh
@KindredSpiritJosh 4 жыл бұрын
This was very good! I wondered about who Rhaella was.
@mf12060825
@mf12060825 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video! I just finished the show ..I want to read the books after this guy manages to finish. What are your thoughts about Daenery's death in the show. I thought the last two episodes were ridiculous. I wanted her to stay alive and rule or even alongside Jon..pr at least not die. It was sad to see the last dragon carry her off. I hope Martin does not end his series this way..
@erhardokleinheisterkamp9795
@erhardokleinheisterkamp9795 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for this. :D
@bfram1977
@bfram1977 Жыл бұрын
These stories are amazing!
@Amagem81
@Amagem81 4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to have to get into the books.
@liliman-moli615
@liliman-moli615 Жыл бұрын
what a horrible man was the mad King 🥺 Rhaella suffered a lot 😭😭😭
@tracyleesmith781
@tracyleesmith781 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that was a really sad story! Thx for doing this tho!
@rhondabrown8707
@rhondabrown8707 4 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting back story to watch.
@OntarioAtOrion
@OntarioAtOrion Жыл бұрын
Rhaella never died. She was in love with Arthur Dayne. Dany is his daughter. The name daenerys is "Ser Dayne" mixed up. Same letters. In A Clash Of Kings Shireen mentions seeing Dalla at the WELL in Dragonstone. Dalla is Rhaella. Mance Rayder is Arthur Dayne and he married Rhaella hence calling himself "king beyond the wall"... marrying the Queen of Westeros, Rhaella/Dalla, makes him a King. The baby Jon Snow saves in the North is Dany's brother!!!!
@KnowledgeBorn120
@KnowledgeBorn120 Жыл бұрын
That’s deep
@OntarioAtOrion
@OntarioAtOrion Жыл бұрын
@@KnowledgeBorn120 👍
@GosieKin
@GosieKin Жыл бұрын
I like it! But would Rhaella abandon Viserys and the new born baby Dany?
@aya-_-3045
@aya-_-3045 Жыл бұрын
id not think she would abandon her children tho
@OntarioAtOrion
@OntarioAtOrion Жыл бұрын
@@aya-_-3045 there has to be a reason why and it's it's matter of survival. I have a triplet theory because of Val in the north and the green braided girl at White Harbor in Davos' chapter. She's called Wylla and there's a green braided tyrosh girl mentioned by Arianne Martell to her father in Dorne, she talks about a little girl with a green braid playing at the water gardens in Dorne when they were children. There is something there I can't quite place almost like there were 3 little girls with white hair. Quaithe is most likely Rhaella watching over her. Plus she survived all those years on the run so someone's really protecting her and I think it's intertwined into Rhaella and Arthur Dayne being Mance Rayder and Dalla.
@cpegg5840
@cpegg5840 3 жыл бұрын
Bonifer Hasty was her knight in shining armour, though he wasn’t allowed to be...
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@DarkSHadowI8
@DarkSHadowI8 Жыл бұрын
I haven't gotten far in the books yet but it seems that the only time Targaryen women miscarry this often it is always due to poison (Aemma was poisoned by the Maesters following the order of the high septon or the Hightowers and Rhaella was poisoned by Tywin)
@amosiren
@amosiren Жыл бұрын
If Rhaegar was such a great man- why didn't he protect his mother?
@CrazyVabders
@CrazyVabders Жыл бұрын
And his first wife
@amosiren
@amosiren Жыл бұрын
@@CrazyVabders great point
@cristinademartini1284
@cristinademartini1284 Жыл бұрын
The answer is: he wasn't.
@nikesh9157
@nikesh9157 7 ай бұрын
His father would burn him
@amosiren
@amosiren 6 ай бұрын
@@nikesh9157 dragons don't burn
@Originalwado
@Originalwado Жыл бұрын
Like I’m watching a real life history. The details
@LoveFor298Yen
@LoveFor298Yen 4 жыл бұрын
Fitting for the aegon’s conquest trailer, which was dropped today
@joostgoedhart2005
@joostgoedhart2005 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?
@yaboyed5779
@yaboyed5779 4 жыл бұрын
SpiderInMyPocket it was just a fan made teaser
@the_scorp
@the_scorp 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if bronn is a nights watch deserter saying from him in season one where he's been north of the wall and how come he is such a skilled swordsman despite being a low born and his cloak being quite similar to nights watch one
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 4 жыл бұрын
It theory that Bronn was hire to sneak some weapons to the Wildlings that Wildlings boguht it against law to sell to Wildlings.
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 жыл бұрын
He also outright refused to wear a gold cloak because cloaks slow you down in a fight. I've never thought about it but it makes some sense
@skylarfortune3043
@skylarfortune3043 Жыл бұрын
the insane trait thing is kind of logical. incestuous marriages make recessive traits more likely to be expressed. if a man carries a recessive trait for this tendecy to grow crazy, it might not manifest but if he has a child with a sister who also carries the same recessive trait, one of their kids will get BOTH recessive traits and eventually, do become insane.
@billionaire30xyz36
@billionaire30xyz36 4 жыл бұрын
It's about time!!
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