Daily Driving With a Welded Diff | How Bad Is It?

[@OffBeatGarage]

If you guys have any questions, comment it below :)

[@xCeelos]

Would welding the diff help kick out the rear easier on a really low hp engine( I think my CA20E barely makes a 100 )? or should I just upgrade the engine a bit more before welding it? on a side note you should sell me the KA when the time comes for the swap ;)

[@TorlyX09]

Ceelos Yes it helps a lot, I welded my diff on my e36 316i bmw (~100hp) and now it's super easy to kick out the rear ;)

[@xCeelos]

TorlyX thanks for the insight! next upgrade will def be the welded diff now and then just thrash the poor CA20 till it blows to swap in a ka :D

[@villafuertejimmy21]

bought a rebuilt 350z and it doesn't drive straight. rear left has toe and it's been aligned. should I just change the alignment to make it drive straight or would adjustable control arms help? if anyone could please help. thank you

[@Hypn0tyz3d]

Google my man, its your friend. Use it. Don't listen to KZbin Mechanics, because you'll tell them something is wrong with your tire and they'll tell you that you need an engine rebuild.

[@OkamiDrift]

Welded diff also makes your car extremely hard to push. If you break down and have to push your car into a parking lot you will be fighting the grip of the rear tires as you turn.

[@OffBeatGarage]

This is true haha

[@brandon2jz]

Okami Drift that's what I was wondering I always here people say that makes me reluctant especially in a old daily that I want to go sideways in lol

[@OkamiDrift]

Brandon Monge You can make due with it, it won't be too bad. I have a welded diff in my S13 and I had one in a miata I used to have. I had my fair share of breakdowns and always managed. Go for it because dorifuto is always worth it

[@willhanoch6424]

Okami Drift definitely my camaro is 3200 lbs and moving it around in the shop is awful without rollers but completely worth it

[@backintogear9071]

definitely!!! have u ever tried push starting a car wit welded diff.. it doesnt happen lol

[@davidcardona9781]

Been on welded diff for about 8 years daily driven, does it wear tires out fast probably, at the end of the day it gets drifted. So tires get replaced regardless. No issues parking.

[@freedomlifemake2579]

How is it going to affect the rear subframe, bmw’s are known to have rear subframe mounts cracking problem and that scares me?

[@PrinceRPG]

If i just use my car for commuting would the diff or axles bust? I bought the car with the Diff already welded

[@Neekdahsleek]

david cardona can u drive it on the freeway?

[@bjlewellen5584]

Right they go down faster because of driver not welded diff 😂

[@brandobee2264]

@@Neekdahsleek yes lol

[@AndresGarcia-wj3dl]

Fun Fact: The Le Mans winning Mazda 787B had a solid diff, to increase the odds of being able to limp it back to the pits to avoid a DNF in the case of some sort of diff failure or axle failure.

[@sbrenx7132]

Lots of race cars had/have completely solid "diffs" (spools) :)

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

I think everyone on Group C running a spool diff. The luxury of electronic diff it’s there yet.

[@MoparMissileDivision]

You driving the tight curves and shifting sure took me back! I live in Oregon and I remember in, and right after high school ('75-'79) a bunch of my buddies and I would would pick up some girls and head to the coast on Highway 126. Boy you talk about a windy road all the way! I had the most gorgeous little 1969 Datsun 510 2 door 1600cc that would fly around corners with sticky tires! God I miss that car so much and wish I had it back! I can say that about dozens of different cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc. One of my other favorites that i would do almost anything to get back was a 1965 Nissan Patrol 4X4 that I installed Super swampers and lifted it four inches. I'm currently working on and driving (I've owned since 1986) a 1972 Plymouth Road Runner GTX, like the black one in F9, except mine is set up for drag racing and is Chrysler B5 Blue with chrome silver stripes and highlights. My RB big block is "poked and stroked to 528ci. I haven't had a chance to get a time slip showing what she will do on an actual drag strip, because the nearest strip is over 70 miles away and with 4:11 gears in the rear end I'm not driving it up there. I have plans for an old camp trailer that I am going to reinforce the frame and be able to tow it all up and down the west coast! Have fun, Drive safe!✌

[@eastsideofthetracks8311]

Honestly when I welded the diff on my e46 i didn’t even notice a difference in daily driving ....but it slides super easy now best DIY I’ve done on the car 💯

[@street_influencer]

Did you change bushings on it im interested in doing it on my e46 but idk if I should do poly bushings to help

[@eastsideofthetracks8311]

@@street_influencer yah I changed to poly bushings ... better to just do it while the diff is out so you won’t have to do the job twice and yah Poly is way better

[@Bertram69111]

I had both, a BMW with a strong LSD (75%) and a welded on in my Ford Sierra(EU Sierra). For me the handling of the welded one was way better. The BMW was a good drifter BUT driving it on daily base was hard. Every time you hit the throttle while doing a turn, LSD closed and the car was suddenly understeering. And when you took back the power LSD opened and you suddenly went into the corner because of less understeering. So fast turns were really difficould and surprising to drive!

[@MrSony1492]

Its worth noting that a welded diff is more likely to break the diff itself. That's the issue I've had the most on my sc400(heavy AF) was having my diff grenade and my second welded diff is on the way out aswell. You might want to start on a tight diff that isn't out of adjustment because if it is even a little you will have noise in no time. Steerings also heavyier but that's only an issue if you don't have power steering.

[@willhanoch6424]

I've been running a welded diff and 5 degrees camber for the last 2 years on my 86 camaro drift car and driving it all the time so it's definitely not bad lol but to be fair I also burn up around 20+ tires a year on the back and 2 on the front but the camber doesn't really tear them up I just like to put new tires on the front every 6 months to keep good grip for drifting and testing out other brands. Great video and very informative keep it up man!

[@bryanmartinez6600]

3:06 technically drifting

[@NikiGz]

Insane angle xd

[@erikjohansson9039]

Another concern is heavy wear on the bushings, not that much if they are new or depending on the style of suspension in the back but when they get old any looseness in them will create movement and the tire will start making small jumps instead of slipping a little all the time, When that happens you can say goodbye to your bushings because they will wear out in no time! I also want to add that you wont be popular at places with a gravel driveway because you will tear that up pretty good if you have to turn sharply on it.

[@UNFORGIVEME043]

I really never noticed a difference with a welded diff just that tires do wear out sooner. just in the rain it does get a little sketchy on the turns and curves but to be honest its fun other than that its fine.

[@Digital_Lich]

Thanks bruh this made me feel a lot better, getting a 97 Miata this saturday and it's got a welded diff and I've never anything like that before.

[@christiandavis1352]

with a 97 you should’ve had an LSD diff

[@Digital_Lich]

@@christiandavis1352 Nah it's just a base model so regular diff but dude welded it.

[@Robin-lj3vq]

3:17 lowkey burnout

[@blackstarbucks]

Im happy someone made a good video on this subject besides me trying to explain/ go over every myth of dailying a car with a welded to diff to a friend.

[@mattm2411]

love this guys 240 hes put in mad work and deserves way more veiws and subs

[@takenx3857]

Matt M Adam lz 240sx is way better

[@Arachidonicc]

00:20 - Do your tires wear out more? 01:42 - Does parking become harder? 02:34 - Driving at low speed/tight turns a pain? 03:30 - Do you break axles all the time? 04:36 - How noisy is a welded diff? 04:57 - Will you drift every turn?

[@luciusdavis1629]

Iffu worried about tires dont weld ur shit 😂 also parking a lil harder cus u loose turn radius , people think it’s sketch to drive welded but it’s not ur not gonna spin out or drift unintentionally

[@drtone]

an S-chassis with any increased angle, just simply inner tie rod spacers, with a welded diff is way easier to park than a car with stock angle and open diff into tight parallel parking spots. the welded also helps due to the binding, which allows the car to not roll away when doing precision moves with clutch, its like you are left foot braking.

[@itzik8062]

That’s it I’m welding my diff on my wheelchair

[@hupe5836]

Lmaoooo

[@flyingskwerrl]

Daily drove my first 86 with a spool for 2 yrs in Nippon. Much love ❤️

[@andrewmarsden7144]

absolutely love how in depth and thorough you are keep up the great videos 🖒🖒

[@flakeyliving8025]

Andrew Marsden ha beat me to it... I love this aspect of the channel. As someone looking to start drifting I've learned a lot from the videos. every time I want to ask a question he ends up addressing it before I even ask. amazing channel.

[@kaan5249]

I drove my welded diff E60 520d daily. To be honest it was fun and didnt cause any troubles, it was hard to do u turns or low speed tight turns, sometimes you have to back it up etc. But it wasn t a big deal, i drove it like 30k km including long trips, never had an issue with it. But it slowed down the acceleration, i didnt measure how much it slowed down but it did. But car changed even in rain the car wants to do what you tell it to, if you want to slide the back it slides, if you want to stay in the line it stays. It was a nice idea to weld it for that car. But many cars gearboxes cant handle that weight so careful, I dont recommend doing this to auto geared e60s. It can cause a lot of problems. Manuel 520d E60 welded dif, no problem in 30k km.

[@72VWbug]

I’m considering welding my diff on my 1991 e30 but it’s my daily and I’m concerned on the longevity and how healthy it is for the engine. I’m doing it because I want to start taking it to the track but don’t want it to ruin daily driving from work and back, and school and back.

[@kaan5249]

@@72VWbug for e30, doesnt matter which engine it has, i had 325 e30 with lsd and 316 with a welded diff. Pushing them both all day never had a problem. It was really funny, definetly recommend it. Parking is a bit of nerve breaking because one tire will try to spin but once you get in to a roundabout and little wet road condition... I cant describe that joy. All e30s should come with a welded diff. Ps. If you stop on a steep hill, and if that hill is wet, dont try to go up, car will go backwards while doing a burnout 😂

[@72VWbug]

@@kaan5249 thank you I appreciate🙏🏽 most definitely gonna weld my diff now I can’t wait🤙🏽😁

[@FujiShiina]

don't weld corolla diffs...the axles snap so easy, just lettin ya know, i went trough 3 rear end in a month of drifting

[@FujiShiina]

Even those axles tend to break sometimes

[@JJT_og]

Ricer Shiina Same issue with mercedes diffs. If not weld it and just do one tirefire, diff is gonna blow. When you weld it its gonna blow anyways in matter of time but it lasts longer than open diff. I have been broken 5-6 diffs in 3 years. Cant remember accurate number anymore :D

[@johngorgis]

Ricer Shiina most guys run Kaaz 1.5 way difs in 86s iv seen

[@boroboroae86]

Ricer Shiina Even the 25 mil kouki ones break. Weir performances sells axle kits with 28 mil axles, heard good things about these. www.weirperformance.com/axlekitscompleterear.html

[@FujiShiina]

iff you can even get in contact with them.. i tried contacting them for the axles and hub, no reply n shit, and they cost a fortune

[@outinthebackyard7579]

I ran welded diffs for years the only issue is it can get squirmy on tight turns in the rain if you were not paying attention.

[@norevlimitr1602]

Sometimes when people weld a diff they put sooooo much heat into the differential that it actually warps the metal and causes the gear mesh to go out of spec and you will get a loud gear whine when driving straight. I believe this is some of the noise concerns people have..

[@25hcp]

3:25 the most anticlimactic doughnut

[@samimonzer]

Don't usually comment but awesome video man wicked informative and straight to the point keep it up 👍🏽

[@OffBeatGarage]

+Sami Monzer Thanks man :)

[@seanerik7339]

Ran a 97 wrangler as a dd for two years. Custom Ford 9 inch, spool, 355 gear. Main thing was needed solid lower arms to handle the torque.

[@davidledford3522]

Seems like one you can lock and unlock would be preferable

[@YourPistachios]

i have a volvo 240 wagon with a welded diff and full heim joint rear suspension with 235 tires. I daily drive it and i can hardly even tell its welded! even parking, no noise, chirps, scrubbing, nothing. Maybe its the longer wheel base and solid axle contributing but for me its super super super tame

[@Gkitchens1]

The only time a locker rear diff is a real concern is on low traction situations like in the rain or ice. Otherwise it's not hardly any different than a normal rear diff

[@Middyhax]

great info, perfect timing! planning on welding my daily real soon

[@lucasjensen4309]

Oh yea I’m definitely welding the diff in my g35

[@b.intellect3954]

yoooo youre the GOAT man . your vids are so informative and straight to the point!!! Im following your footsteps.

[@AndrewBrowner]

has no body with a nissan heard of selectable lockers? i think every built jeep has them at this point, rubicons even come factory with them.. theres a switch on your dash.. off is a completely open diff, on is locked solid.. id estimate theyre about 500-600$ and probably a couple hundred cheaper if you get a cable actuated one and run a cable pull to the cab itd pay for itself after one broken axleshaft or one set of preworn tires

[@dudeimnotevenmad]

Quality content as always! Keep up the good work man!

[@FOXeye95]

So basically if you weld ur diff, get shitty tires like 40e a pair on some steelies or re furbished tires or whatever english term for them Less money on tires, less traction (dorifto) , less chance of breaking an axle, maybe less chirp ROGER

[@MrNikolaiandr]

Finally, he is back uploading😍

[@Da_padilla]

do keep in mind to chill on turns with the welded diff, I slide a few days ago turning unattentional. so just be chill on turns

[@MANIAC644x]

Danny Padilla thank you for the knowledge

[@azmi253_2]

this is your sign to just weld that shit man, it’s worth it :)

[@connorcumblardy6345]

Haven’t even finished watching but still subscribing because of the organization

[@anthonygarcia5746]

Anti roll bar and lower arm bar support. Eliminates axel problem.

[@murcC47]

If you weld your diff it will give you better traction for "canyon" driving,drag racing etc etc, you need to make it brake traction with a welded diff to make it drift if you do not have the HP to do so, but it makes drifting more fun if you can not afford a proper LSD, it's the cheap and easy way.....

[@JollyRogerHobbies]

Are you guys with welded diffs really getting around 5000 miles before it wears out like his example? That seems quite low to me. Just wondering what others get.

[@yaboymugz2080]

Is it safe to drive on a welded diff and how about on the freeway?

[@halfevilwelding5268]

SoCal sidewayz sticker? Used to watch you guys when I was little

[@Vice_Enforcer]

I came here to find info bc i just installed a junkyard axle that the diff is welded on my 87 suburban. This releaved some of my concerns.

[@damiangillett6443]

Very well presented video with all the facts and video evidence. Appreciate the advice

[@gavinnadeau3418]

Y'all hiring?

[@gavinnadeau3418]

Yes, Mr. cool.

[@arturos.l.2248]

Don’t use high tread, off-road tires. Welded diff may help off-road but on road, you’re bound to blow the rear daily driving

[@wonnozline4094]

Most of my car friends have a welded diff on their dailies, E30s, NB mx5s, e36s, no problem at all. And I gotta mention Italian roads are awful at best, so I don't think you'll have problems in other countries

[@cooliecrewspeedshop]

$20 for an open diff?! lmao bih where, im out here struggling trying to find parts

[@TeunS133N]

having mine welded right now, stoked!

[@arturos.l.2248]

A Real Limited slip differential is the way to go, costs much less in the end of the day

[@eriksimca9409]

thats it im welding the diff on my winterbeater xD ive kind of been like "should i or should i not" its just that im afraid to break axles or the actual diff, but since its an old volvo 945 turbo i wont run more than stock tiresize on it

[@TheJoe999Man]

Why wouldn’t people just spend the extra money and buy a locker or LSD?

[@MrDavidhaslach2626]

Sir Brellin cases like mine. I have a ford ranger that has a 7.5 rear end. They do not make a locker for it at all. Some had an LSD in them yes but its such a weak LSD its pointless.

[@bobjefferson1332]

There no difference between a 2 way diff and a welded diff

[@sumosami]

@@bobjefferson1332 but 1,5 way has ;)

[@drtone]

a spool or welded diff can have advantages, such as maximum traction, predictability and reliability. It requires advanced driving skills to get the most out of it and avoid pitfalls, which is unwanted understeer in part throttle situations....so learn to drive. its fun too.

[@sumosami]

@@drtone amen

[@bigcazza5260]

tires are a 5 minute job at a shop for 20 bucks a pop axles can either be a 5 minute job or a 5 month job depending on luck, im scared of that more than tires

[@iant720]

Interesting... see I would hate on a welded diff for literally every reason listed... surprising to see that the effects are so minimal

[@snaaail]

I just noticed your logo on the shift knob, love it

[@MadelnMachines]

How much does a set of new tyres cost you on a drift day? What do you use?

[@jonasrutherford1076]

Man this video is so helpful, legend

[@TheOnlyDJChillWill]

how do you know when you broke an axle? Jack in up and then spin one rear tire and see if the other spins?

[@nando7227]

Can you break down your rear suspension please !!!! My car is super low and my brand new axels keep breaking

[@mackster196]

lol I find it funny when people ask if it wears down tires faster. why would you care? you put a welded diff in your car so you can drift and destroy tires anyways. I run a welded diff in my e36 and ive been dailying it like that for 4 months now and nothing has gone wrong. and if you have shitty burners on the back you'll barely notice the skiping when making sharp turns or parking.

[@OffBeatGarage]

Haha I always had the same reaction

[@julioramirez1812]

Do welded diff would be better on truck bro

[@drtone]

yep

[@poptartgofast]

daily a welded z31 for many years with weekend drift runs. if you weld it right youll never open that cover again

[@arnietorres1988]

sorry if it sounds dumb but can you still get on the highway at regular highways speeds with no troubles ??

[@sierrabrooks6352]

Arnie Torres absolutely!

[@MsLinziKirsch]

I’m buying an LS400 pretty soon and going to weld the diff. it’s going to be my VIP car but can slide.

[@YoungChill640]

i ran a 235 stretched on a 10" wheel only had one problem in 2 years which was that i broke the bolts holding my axle to my diff

[@Mazza666]

If U axel hop sideways you will blow Axel's very quick. I usually blow them in 2-3 days by clutch kicking around corners.

[@UnTamedMustang]

But can i still take 75mph curves without being forced to drift ? I just need a welded diff for acceleration/traction.

[@UnTamedMustang]

and how about 95mph curves? Serious questions. I dont want my rear to slide me backwards into a ditch if i can prevent it.

[@OffBeatGarage]

+Speedy 212 Depends on your tire setup and road conditions and how tight the turn is. I can drive on the freeway going 95mph and do the turns on that no problem and that's with 215 tires at 55psi. So let's say you ran a 265, at normal ~35psi tire pressure, then I don't see that back end coming out at 95mph without you purposely trying to get the back end out.

[@SS8styles]

All my questions are about LSD vs. welded differential, are you gonna make that video soon? I anecdotally heard LSD slides less predictably and what not. I'm thinking of either buying the cheapest NA miata I can find welding diff and stripping for track buisness, or getting the cheapest salvaged GT86. I'd like to get into drifting but I don't think I can afford all the tires on top of track time... I mostly just wanna be able to control oversteer slides confidently, for now not looking to link drifts yet

[@DroopyBuilds]

Are you ever going to do a video on the RPM LED on your hood?

[@yeet1127]

Backyard Garage On his IG he said it's his homies prototype

[@barrykilts4506]

Well now you need to set up a water spraying unit in front of your rear tires for tight turning.lol

[@Daniel-yb7wj]

I notice your cab is caged and there's no helmet. Ive heard more than once when accidents occurs that the reason the driver died was because their head was hittin the bars, they would've lived without the cage installed

[@BM205]

My situation a lil different. K-5 with 33 inch Super Swampers Lincoln locked 14bolt.Most o the time it's tollerable but in the rain I'm drifting like you guys(jus not on purpose)😁

[@Fighterofthenightman_]

I have an 03 crown Vic just wanna do some nice donuts don’t plan on keeping car much longer gonna junk it soon so imma weld it lol

[@shaunbailey4922]

She's gonna keep running no matter

[@danieldubia721]

I Have a 95 bronco with a locker in the back and I live in Alaska and going around a turn on the snow or ice it likes to push through turns a lot but other then that and in the summer the tire churp it isn’t all that bad besides the winter it causes a lot of anxiety for turning in an intersection but that’s it

[@groovygreens7258]

I’ve got a 92 chevy s10 with a welded diff and a 350 v8 am I gonna have a problem with handling

[@bigcazza5260]

i daily drove a weld for ages. the turning circle isnt that much worse

[@staszyslaw]

Welded my diff yesterday 💕 can't wait for the first rain :P (E36 1.6 😂)

[@Pelllaw26]

if you're drifting the car on the weekend i'd do it. idk about dailying it during snow time. if you're just doing burn out on the side i wouldn't do that.

[@rythegeneral511]

if the idea of welding the diff is to save money, but it means chewing tires in 5k miles and breaking axles if you put a wider tire on it, by the time you've fixed all that other shit, just do it right the first time, buy the LSD and put the other money into better parts...welded diff sounds like it just means more downtime and money for the car in the long run and that's counterproductive

[@mxhst.6668]

dam bro that table of contents in the intro made me subscribe

[@MrEnduroVlogs]

Welder sales went up after this video.

[@NWGarage]

This dude dash is confirming the stereo type

[@lukesanchez3741]

Is it dangerous going fast on the highway or freeway?

[@ytaky]

on a positive note, you can donut at a really low rev range 3:05 xD

[@Ja518]

Great video, thanks for this

[@andreybistrinin3262]

Thanks, very good explanation with demonstration. Helped me a lot.

[@jairosendsit8667]

I have 255 and I foresee breaking an axle soon lol my diff is welded but I normally don't run anything bigger than a 225 we just had some nice potenzas at my shop for grabs and they were the right size

[@Dizzykitty817]

The worst thing about welded diffs on your daily is it makes you look like a complete tool when you advertise that the diff is welded when you go to sale your car on Facebook. There are plenty of locking r200's in junkyards all over the place. Just grab one and make it work.

[@nissan_motors4934]

you should do a video comparing a tubed front end vs a non tubed front end...or a pros and cons

[@qusayhammad9897]

Can you weld the broken welded diff

[@CaptainLicorice]

As long as it hasn't exploded. If the weld just let go and hasn't destroyed the diff. I got Lucky when mine let go the first time. That's why you don't use a 110v mig welder. Use a stick or something better then a mastercraft welder 😂

[@freedom240188]

Run welded diff also no issue at all

[@Mejy]

its funny how he mentions diffs were 20 buck meanwhile the only 1 i could find is going for 300$ o how times have changed :(

[@paperchasin4053]

Why does it break traction when you turn?? I don’t understand

[@sumdim6427]

How is it to drive in highway in the rain?

[@BeaterJeep]

Under steer and over steer during daily driving through curves and making throttle changes?!

[@jasonpooler6811]

Does it ever jump around in tight turns?

[@ShinjuNLG]

You can drift with an lsd right? Does it work like a welded diff when you are sideways?

[@DerKaktusAvant]

Yes

[@brandobee2264]

Bruh yes if you have an lsd you already good lol