WHY THE CAMBER?!? | Drift Alignments Explained

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[@shaun6437]

"The tires are only safely rated to like 50 psi, but you can just go ahead and ignore that" Tip top advice #pro

[@literallyanythingelseother]

I mean he's not wrong... Same goes bikes too...

[@shaun6437]

I know, I just thought it was kinda funny. I used to (kinda) ride bikes. I think I always put mine at like 70ish. I think they're rated to 65. I know such a rebel.

[@dan_lazaro]

+First name Last name for road tyres 600c wheels like mine generally are rated at 65 psi max... then 700c are rated at 120psi

[@dan_lazaro]

+First name Last name for mountain bikes, 26ers are rated at 45 psi and 29ers are rated 65 psi

[@cmendoza1094]

Edgy

[@the80h]

Holy shit a car video with someone who knows what they are talking about!

[@ForTheLoveOfDriving]

now I can tune my cars better in forza

[@thedriftking2jz808]

thats pritty much how i set mine up

[@sparx0414]

Forza FTW

[@MrRodillo123]

Devonte Mitchell lmfaooo exactly what ive been doing and it does work lol

[@driftingbrandonc.6480]

-5 max camber in forza so gl. #RfactorFTW

[@yasuke1075]

Brandon C yea bro

[@SpikeKastleman]

Camber for drifting = All good. Camber on a non-drift car = Ricer crap.

[@jimmytran5971]

Spike Kastleman preach brother and just because you have camber also does not mean you are a drifter

[@TheBikemaster94]

Spike Kastleman naw broghe some setup benefit from mild camber, think about what happens when you lean into a tight turn. body roll, coil bind, etc. can hurt yer handling especially if the car wasn't meant to be driven hard

[@SpikeKastleman]

TheBikemaster94 Let me correct myself: *Excesive* camber. Lol. My bad!

[@davidponte5153]

Thank you for saying that this guys camber isnt even bad but i see niggas with excessive camber on a toyota camry 😂😂😂😂

[@fueledgti]

Spike Kastleman Camber for race cars and track cars is also good for reducing understeer and increasing traction during turn in

[@blackstormfire]

Thanks now im ready to drift in my Fiat Panda.

[@bloodfoxtriberc]

@Biggus Dickus pvc rings in the back, slow motion sliding^^

[@LegendaryScottOfficial]

Is it just me, or does just the right amount of camber look really good?

[@MrCalverino]

GTR_Scott its very sexy

[@penuuu0195]

it looks good

[@hebelehubele872]

Yea max -2

[@barnyard_fab]

Hebele Hübele lmao i’d say that’s about max if you’re not gonna drift

[@zsdrift8896]

wont be doing 65° plus entry in my daily...challenge accepted sir lol

[@JRScience]

Keep making videos like this and you're gonna give engineering explained a run for his money! Very very informative!

[@veryfast]

Can I just say thank you for making these videos? I've been watching your channel since the beginning of LDC1, and no one I've seen on youtube has been as thorough or knowledgeable as you are. Haggard garage just destroys cars for entertainment, MCM has the sponsorship and money to do whatever they want with the help of their shop friends. I feel like Off Beat is the only channel out there that is a truly competent, grass roots car channel. The amount of time and research you've put into your car shows, and I'm glad to finally see you out drifting. So thank you!

[@OffBeatGarage]

Well you're welcome my man :) glad to be here and making these videos for ya!

[@savetheZENKIs]

lol, not why i run -9.5 degrees of camber up front.. I'm just a swag lord trying to fit dope ass rims.

[@angeld.9220]

thats funny

[@Wannabegoodvideos]

Lol I really love your honesty in this comment!

[@ethandoom1627]

Angel D.

[@stance_wrks8129]

bruh i have a zenki.... but i cant wait to face lift it...(kouki swap) ;)

[@SomeMechlover]

Atleast he backs it up with facts

[@FarReachFR]

This is such an amazing good explanation of your alignment, I was just impressed and then more so the longer you kept instructing. Nice work. have a good run on the track.

[@KR-no7cc]

this is interesting to me. I hate it much less now. I always just figured it was completely for "aesthetic" purposes. Now that I understand there is a point to cambering the tits out of vehicles, I can appreciate it to an extent. Well spoken, informative video.

[@anthonygonsalves7020]

F1, DTM and most other touring racing, professional drifting...many race cars have negative camber. Some are even on all four corners.

[@gamerprootp9423]

let me just say this to you. i began watching your videos a few days ago and you sir suprized me as one hell of a hard worker! i mean here i am a week ago watching your first drift video and now here you are with this vast of knowledge and what appears to be sponsers on your car? congrats man and keep up the good work!

[@Elephant_Thoughts]

Well...I was educated. Thank you for taking the time out for this reality update on the topic.

[@carlosfranco7263]

i know and seen you do your own alignment on your car, if you have time you should do a video on how to do alignments on low cars like yours, what tools you use and methods etc.

[@Vgk36]

Holyshit man I just learned more in this 9 minute and 50 second video then I ever have just trying to figure it out myself. this is internet gold thank you for posting this I also subbed and I will follow you on Instagram!!

[@fatbogan5395]

OMG ITS YOU!!! I just re discovered you after about 3 years. I remember your og drift builds on that 240 that you got from a panel beater!

[@e36pico5]

This helped so much in CarX drifting

[@4xHitler]

the reason why I couldn't drift with the Evo in Project cars.. it had too much negative camber on the front. great explanation

[@turboboost04]

Ive been watching alot of your videos lately and i gotta say they are really informative! keep up the good work!!

[@cxbra]

This is some of the best info ive ever heard, in my life.. Thanks Offbeat for the bomb ass content.

[@almightyalan8942]

Saw your vid yesterday, tuned my drift rc came back to thank you for sharing your wisdom with us! My car drifts so good!

[@linuslindkvist9360]

Straight to the point!! Probadly the most giving video I've ever seen on YT. Keep it up bro! Subbed and liked.

[@zac8123]

ya i mean camber is fine if you have a car for the specific reason of drifting but people that put it on there honda fucking civic cuz they think its "cool" then its just dangerous and looks really really fucked up

[@1221Ralph]

UnethicalGamer its also rice since its race inspired

[@zac8123]

yup

[@zac8123]

Nick Tallarigo for? By the way it's "you're"

[@TheBikemaster94]

UnethicalGamer thanks homie😂 you good brughe?

[@fueledgti]

hey man, what about the track built civics in world time attack? they run about 5.5 degrees up front

[@AidanTree]

great video man, Lots of good knowledge

[@OffBeatGarage]

Thanks :)

[@Wannabegoodvideos]

Ive been watching your Offbeat Garage videos since you first started drifting and building the first 240. I really like you education and knowledge behind what you do to your car instead of just throwing shit at a car and saying it's going to work! I don't drift, I like drag racing but alignment angles are just as important in both areas. Love the video's still!

[@Anukloses]

Bro. Amazing vid, really good explanation of everything. Keep up the good work.

[@MrBk11224]

Bro I've watched all you videos from the start and the knowledge that you have is amazing !

[@Glasseddetailingg]

well done man, you have come a long way keep it up

[@TheDoubledayGaming]

Loving the videos cant wait to see you break 100.000 subs keep it going.

[@RGHTBrainDesignDrive]

This is your best video so far. Excellent work. Good safety tip for the oblivious ones! :D

[@c0ntag10n]

Extremely informative video. Knowing nothing about drifting, this was a great primer and explained everything I wanted to know. Thank you for posting

[@collinsxvibez3926]

I wanna start drifting next year, and i’m binge watching these as much as i can to prepare lol! This was great, i learned so much

[@ZTK-RC]

Did you start drifting this year?

[@ProtonFilms_Mark]

This popped up in my suggestions and I fully expected the Bro attitude to this. So I went "humour me" and then you appear on-screen well versed in the topic and I am left seriously reevaluating my stereotypes over here.

[@JMyersMedia]

nice vid man, keep them up

[@Jury1111111111]

Dude, you're ace! Really enjoyed your video, keep it up!

[@rickjames3034]

I didnt think i would learn anytjing going in but i did! Thanks!

[@urmother1893]

you sir, just earned a subscriber, loved the video, very informative. keep up the good work

[@Digitalstar3]

Really good video man, keep it up !

[@a.benaway_racing]

Something to add is that the caster affect works best for grip set ups where the outside front wheel is take all the load, so gaining dynamic camber is a good thing. Drift set ups are opposite because like the guys says the lead wheel is now you primary focus. Good explanation!!

[@Skydiggz]

Informative AF! I learned a lot. Thanks bro. 👍🏾

[@wilsonmlin]

Great video! Thanks for the info and lesson. I wish the trend of ridiculous camber on street cars would just stop but I now get it for track specific drift cars.

[@94BrunoO]

Lots of knowledge, well explained, made it easy to understand. Hats off

[@BigAndy229]

Great video dude! Keep up the great work

[@montana1636]

That is accurate and a relevant compensation for forward caster, aside from initial steering input, but on a drift car you aren’t overly concerned with the confident feel of the feed back during initial turn in

[@Esnoe21210]

I wonder if Adam Lz watches your vids ..

[@nicholasmcintyre4166]

so if i see a fwd car running this kind of camber, i can call it a ricer?

[@iforgothisname2564]

IF it's excessive and FWD cars need more camber at the front because that is where the power is being delivered. Camber keeps it in a straight line. Don't quote me.

[@fueledgti]

IForgotHisName that's totally correct. the ideal amount of front camber for RWD/FWD track cars is 3.5degrees to 4 degrees. it reduces understeer during the corner which is a huge killer in track time

[@fueledgti]

Nicholas Mcintyre not really. 3-4 degrees of camber on a fwd car reduces understeer throughout turns

[@anthonygonsalves7020]

Nah, you simply turn the other way.

[@turboahdettusupra58]

Fwd cars already spin their tires really easy even with 100hp so what happens when u add camber to those front tires and even futher reduce grip when on straight line and accelerating hard.

[@Genome69420]

clicked thinking maybe id learn a few things and i did. good shit man.

[@bizzybinnc]

Awesome job on breaking this down. Nice video.

[@Jumpious]

love the vids been subbed for so long, didnt take notice of ur sub count but ANYWAY - should do an update on your suspension, 50mm extended lca's, tie rods, etc

[@NateNZL]

Awesome video man. I also run the same measurement tyres on my BMW (Non Drift Car). Great to see how far both you and you car have come :)

[@euroberto85]

im not really into drifting but i really like these videos. keep up the good work

[@DGCastell]

got educated with this, thanks a lot for putting your effort on the vid!

[@EvanMoon]

You explained it very good and now I know what you're doing. Thanks so much

[@matter9]

Great explanation! I knew the technical precision was high before the mention of vector diagrams, but that just drove it home 👌😎

[@OffBeatGarage]

Thanks man :)

[@11snk10]

Great explanation man!!! Easy to understand

[@Tiz263]

thanks from a master tech and a former autoxer that was very informative and cleared things up for me

[@pipelinewill]

don't forget acrumen, I put modded knuckles in my car with 0 ish acrumen, and have 0 toe front and rear, 0 rear camber, 6 degrees front camber and stock caster. works mint! I learned a lot from this video, awesome!

[@helemar51]

Thank you so much for your in depth video. Best explanation on the web

[@crazycandy2323]

Learned a lot out of this video, great job explaining everything

[@leoedward7363]

Thanks so much for this video. You couldn't have made it any clearer. I'm just getting to grips with suspension set-ups but haven't yet needed to think about a drift setup. Really interesting stuff

[@haridoessports]

Damn! Great video! Everything was very simple and easy to understand! Great job!

[@michaelbedoya9838]

Really informative. Love your videos keep it up!

[@tristan7122]

Thank u very much for the nice and detailed description !

[@creamsoda5492]

dude, another in depth vid. so informative. didn't know you run so little hp in you car either!

[@MacDaddyFresh]

Thanks dude, cleared things up a lot.

[@AngryJesus]

Thanks for the explanation. I kinda feel like it was partially in response to my comment about stretching the tires so it wouldn't rub the front fenders. Good information and it makes sense now. Looking forward to more videos! You've come a long way since i first started watching.

[@AX-xi2pw]

Stretched tires actually also provide another benefit for drift cars other than more fender clearance. When stretched, the tires gain lateral stiffness since the sidewalls are diagonal which makes them not snap as hard into grip and slide easier/smoother to the sides. Edit: fender clearance isn't actually a legit benefit since you can easily run a more narrow rim to fit the tires and still not have any rubbing issues.

[@HaoleBuilt808]

Great video. Really helped me (amateur drifter) to help better understand how to setup my car.

[@cachoraman]

great video dude, You've helped me solve some doubts. greetings from Mexico...

[@driftingbrandonc.6480]

great video this explained the little i know in detail :D that negative camber in the front looks badass

[@highsidemedia7559]

you just helped my drift tunes on forza sooo much, thank you hahaha

[@oregonhighway]

a justification for what i usually think is nutty camber. thanks for the vid!

[@PseudoSarcasm]

Really good video, very well explained. Great job

[@lucywucyyy]

huh, ive been a serious car guy and love professional drifting and it turns out i didnt know how cambre worked, before this i thought it was to make it so that the tire has a flat contact when the tire deforms under the horizontal stress of drifting or turning. this was way more informative than i thought it would be, i actually completly relearned somthing i thought already knew

[@OffBeatGarage]

Glad it helped!

[@goguhu]

Great job explaining stuff man!

[@aaronraymond5121]

this is the best explained vehicle video ...

[@ebumpas]

For someone like me with NO tuner experience, this was incredibly educational! In all seriousness, thank you.

[@OffBeatGarage]

+Storm Rider Glad to hear it :)

[@juliodefreitas157]

Awesome video and thanks for sharing your tips

[@Vyppaaa11]

Very informative, I never thought of the camber change due to caster

[@TheGreenmeeny]

Best explanation yet, cheers.

[@chaunster]

Thx for the explanation. It was very thorough and informative.

[@Zifey0]

great video! car looks sick as well

[@Steadybeheady]

One question about rear camber; say I put down over 300 ftlbs to the rear wheels and my trans is rated to about 300. Running about 40 psi in the rear with -1 camber in the rear could be safer for the trans than -0.5 or neutral?

[@paolonicolini1055]

+OffBeat Garage very interesting video! Does even front and rear toe adjustments change the behavior of the car in drifting or you dont need to touch it? thanks :D

[@007rozier]

what's up bro,I just wanted to ask a few questions if I may, I have an 2002 acura cl type S, it's my daily Drive and I want to put -camber on it for the look but also want to get the most performance out of my tires and turning ,what degree should i put the front cambers too and what degrees should I put the rear campers too,i want it noticeable with negative camber but also want the most surface space and performance as possible?

[@Matt4412-j7o]

MIND BLOWN... now i also understand those memes with extreme exaggerated front camber and 0 in the rear

[@Wrappedinadrift]

Serious question doing the alignment for my z , how bad will the front tire wear if I run -2-3 degrees of camber in the front and 1/8 toe out

[@highwaymanautomotive9549]

Really good video! don't agree with everything you say but, you explain everything really well and I respect your point of view and choices for turning your vehicle. Very good view

[@GREGXCELENTEFILM]

This is a great video. Very informative, thanks for posting. Can I ask, how much does it cost in overhead to drift a car like this? Like track fees, tires etc. How do you practice? Do you have to reserve track time or do you have a track near you that you can just go to whenever? I really want to do something like this.

[@Not_Hans]

God this video is fantastic... I will be sure to post this video every time some moron goes "That drift car is stupid because it has such a ridiculous camber"... I love your vids man keep it up :D

[@turmat01]

Thanks for your explanations. First time I see someone explain it while actually showing how their wheels actually move. I've been trying to explain this to a couple of friends, and yet they always look at me like an alien. Now I got a proper video to show them to prove my point! With this I can now SHOW the difference between a drifter's camber/caster setup and those idiots running 20-25 degrees of negative camber on their street cars... Thanks! :P

[@kylesagun156]

turmat01 lol 40 degrees camber

[@chrismeadows5948]

Great info - I just learned something today thanks ! Now I understand 👍👍

[@Alex-xy4tx]

On my old e36 I bought it with much angle but the fitment was really messed up and after further inspection my dad found out it had a shorter front subframe I got a really good amount of angle with out hitting anything but I didn't run that much camber so when I tried to do a fast entry I would lose all speed and spin out a lot on the track can some one explain what I should have done because I sold it and got another one that I wanna do every thing my self on

[@willl5250]

Totally comes off as a drift bro. Starts talking and its very clear hes a rift pro. Respect

[@bradypellarin8573]

Best video on thre subject I've ever seen.

[@melitonvillamor8116]

pretty good video adel enjoyed it a lot.

[@mustangbee17]

Damn dude i used to see your videos when you still had your other 240 then got the other 240 that was shitty af (idk if its not this black one) and then i also saw like your very first time attempting to drift and now i come back and you already got the hang of it and everything! Thats crazy dude but congrats man its very noticeable that all your hard work has been paying off

[@MechInvent]

this actually makes me not hate camber anymore, thanks.

[@DanRu13]

Honest question. Why such a wide wheel on the rear with stretched tires and spacers? I mean if you want more grip wouldn't you want a wider tire with straight sidewall instead of less contact with a stretched tire? Meaning wouldn't it make sense to run no spacer and unstretched tires? Just curious