Daily Rider Nonsense from Zac at RevZilla!!!

[@skandix]

It's Zacs opinion, that's all! Take it for what you paid for it. Move on!

[@rlpatton1970]

excactly right or wrong opinions are just like ??

[@ChitFromChinola]

Yup, and now Jack has expressed his opinion.

[@goughhomer3918]

I watch Daily Rider and I believe Zack tries his best to remain impartial. He did laugh and giggle more than a few times on it. But in the end it was the dreaded range anxiety and hefty price point compared to ICE bikes with similar specs and features that explain its low ranking. The Zero DSR/X met a similar fate on the 2023 Daily Rider board. Yet has stated that the DSR/X is on his wishlist.

[@freedomiseverything]

If Zac said, "There is no future in gas motorcycles. They'll all be gone in ten years." He'd lose his job. His mission is to promote the status quo and not rock the boat.

[@NemoEUC]

Agree 👍 This bike and the S2 Mulholland that just came out were designed for congested cities with abundant level 2 charging, and those that aren’t going 100 miles a day, or care fuck all about group rides. No shifting, no clutch, no gears, instant torque, is worth every penny, and very practical for urban commuters. Yes, there’s a premium for being in the EV space because it’s new technology backed by Harley Davidson with proper dealer support. For those that have a level 2 home charger and a charger at work, you’re essentially paying cents to charge to full for a 20-30 mile round trip, you’ll probably pay $60 for the entire year with zero maintenance. All the ICE heads in the comments are triggered because they don’t like strong opinions about electric motorcycles being better than gas. It is better and far more efficient when you use the bike for its intended purpose.

[@chazeroni455]

I don't know. A similar ICE bike is 2/3 the cost, 100lbs lighter and you can venture away from urban centers and still refuel. Judging by your videos, I'm guessing you own some shares in Livewire?

[@goughhomer3918]

You have Jack all wrong. It all started with the H-D LiveWire, because H-D was the only major manufacturer producing EV motorcycles. Not one ICE bike is a Harley. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6DOYoJ4ZdeMd5Ysi=88M__zfbyYfAUA7g

[@Glitch723]

I'm not sure what you mean by "not one ICE bike is a Harley." I'm pretty sure almost all Harleys are powered by internal combustion.

[@goughhomer3918]

@@Glitch723 Please do care take to damn the video

[@goughhomer3918]

@@Glitch723 view the video

[@cloudbasenirvana]

ICE, ICE Baby everytime - I will never be riding anything with my legs wrapped around a l!th!um testies and willy removing timebomb.

[@612doteth]

I'm a DAILY "thinking/wishing I was riding" I'm from Minnesota and the weather doesn't cooperate with my daily Livewire obsession.

[@caffeineman72]

This is $15,499 - if you ride in an area where the infrastructure can support electric, and you're riding range allows, and your wallet can support it, I am sure it's great. But, a daily rider isn't just about daily commuting, it's also about riding on your day off, riding with others, riding for fun. You defined what "commuting" means to you, but you are not me.

[@freedomiseverything]

I ride for fun on the weekends. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4W8enSkd7mlbKssi=pFt7A0MuMgdaJnWS

[@JEP-Tech]

You missed another key point. Secure storage. You can always buy add on storage with lockable saddle bags and tanks bags, but I always prefered the underseat storage of scooters that can fit a full face helmet and also keep food items away from the cold and heat outside and is not a visible target for thieves. That's one of the big things I liked about the Fuell Fllow design. Hopefully it will actually make it to production at some point, but if not, that's definitely something that Livewire should copy.

[@I-Libertine]

I wanted the DelMar to be good. But 15k and 80 miles range? Ridiculous. *Especially for a 'daily rider'. Great form factor. Looks great. But the only thing sillier than the price is the practicality. (See ya on the side of the road.)

[@freedomiseverything]

Electrics have a long way to go. But, given the right circumstances, they are way better than a gas bike. Daily commuting is one of those circumstances.

[@I-Libertine]

@@freedomiseverything I wish it were true... But it's transparently not. I'd like to have enough $ to engage in such magical thinking--truly. But we both know (we all know) that's just counter-factual. Cool looking bike, and I'll bet it handles awesome. But it's as practical as a $500 lamp that requires daily bulb changes.

[@maximesauve112]

Someone invested in Livewire and is now pissed because a highly influencial media outlet talked trash on one of the products? Electric bikes (like cars) still have a long way to go in the battery tech to be competitive against ICE vehicules

[@freedomiseverything]

Electric cars are already there. The best selling car on earth is a Tesla Model Y. The car is 100% dialed in.

[@sebastianvelez5696]

Spot on, as always! Long time motorcyclist here, test rode a Livewire One on a whim, ended up loving it so much I traded my BMW GS and to my surprise over the last year I ended up using the bike as a daily commuter unintentionally almost daily. Before I would just ride my BMW (and Ducatis before that) mostly on the weekends and the occasional work trip. I didn’t buy it as a Daily rider, but it’s just too good!

[@shadowbroker1]

Ah thanks for popping up so I know Zac just made a new video which I'll now check out. Zac has a solid record of being authentic and not afraid of being critical regardless of brand... I think you may be taking this personal. You dont need to define the details and terms, save yourself the time wasted.

[@freedomiseverything]

Zac says what RevZilla wants him to say. There is no way to be credible when your paycheck comes from entrenched industry insider. If the leadership at RevZilla had any clue, they would collaborate with companies making the transition away from fossil fuels.

[@krallonthefloor]

I’ve been riding 17 years and the only time I’ve been left on the side of the road was on a Zero electric motorcycle demo ride. Thankfully they came back for me with a different bike. With that said I’m not opposed to electric motorcycles, but they currently serve a very limited purpose. A daily should be able to serve multiple purposes. Your view of a daily seems biased towards a commute in a large california city.

[@freedomiseverything]

Most electrics have various reliability issues. However, my LIveWire ONE has been 100% reliable. Much more so than the BMSs I've owned...

[@mikeskidmore6754]

My 2008 Buell Ulysess does 0-60 in 3 seconds.. I have not had my Yamaha FZ-07 to the drag strip yet. My Yamaha FZ-07 does not use brakes much as it has really strong engine braking ..

[@joeblow5037]

15 grand for a bike that MAY go 80 miles on a good downhill day is no go in my book. Zac was nicer than I woud have been. btw, been riding (legally) since 14 in 1971. Buncha CB's (100,125,350) to Triumphs (real ones) CBX, Concours, an and on. Electric bikes aint there yet.

[@freedomiseverything]

One of by biggest regrets was selling my 1981 CBX.

[@hlagunes]

Well said Jack, I totally agree, some people have no idea, bike is amazing and the power in that 0 to 60 makes it very safe for street and commuting, I would say 0 to 80mph because I ride the freeway all the time too, lane splitting KING, bike has way too much torque and the Bosch electronics are a must and they work so well on all these new bikes. This is the most maintenance free, fun, torque monster, agile, and best commuter period. Nice pic, I may know that guy… lol

[@MikeS42069]

This is the most boomer crybaby junk I've seen on youtube

[@RaceWithTime]

I must say considering how overall positive Zac was on the Del Mar, I feel like calling his vid a "hit piece" is a bit unhinged...if anything this ridiculous response vid is the actual hit piece. For starters, just because the Del Mar is at the bottom of the list doesn't mean he thinks it's a bad bike and he even had the "fire" sticker next to it indicating that it was an exceptionally fun/rowdy ride. Maybe you're new to this video series but being easy to commute through the city is not the sole criteria for rankings. He ranks the bikes as if he was personally recommending them to an unknown person as an only bike that will be used for commuting AS WELL AS general pleasure riding (which is a very broad use). While the Del Mar does commuting through town very well, that's kind of all it does...and most other ICE bikes (apart from supersports which also rank poorly) are fantastic at commuting as well. For $15k+ most riders are going to expect more usage beyond just commuting and the daily rider rankings reflect that.

[@baje_246]

What’s your review after 6 months. Several of us are disappointed to see the amount of time the S2DM is in the shop.

[@protonus]

Lol, it was certainly not a hit piece and it was accurate.

[@rcvg69420]

The Del Mar Daily rider was not a hit piece, but this vid sure is. I'll keep this brief, you are clearly a guy doing well for himself and the 15k for the Del Mar is a no brainer for your style of riding. But just to put things in some perspective for you, you could spend 5K on say a used SV650, Versys650, nc700/750, vstrom 650, or whatever. In what world do the running costs of a 5k bike that gets 50+mpg catch up to something like a Del Mar over the lifetime of either of these bikes? That Del Mar is going to have a toast battery in 10 years and those ICE bikes will still work just fine and be worth a few grand. How much is a Del Mar battery? As a value proposition, all EVs are currently bad. The range is bad, the residual value in 5-10 years is VERY bad because the battery wears out by then. I find myself boggled by the EV simps out there. When batteries become a lot cheaper and modular and easily recyclable, yes they will make a LOT of sense! But as it currently stands it just doesn't. The battery issue is an enormous big ticket maintenance item after 5-10 years that must be replaced that destroys all the value proposition an EV could potentially have. And I'm skeptical that you'll even be able to get a battery for one of these in 10 years. You'll be stuck sending the battery pack off to a specialist to have it dismantled and all the 21700 cells replaced individually or something. I think it's great you like the Del Mar but your arguments on why it has more value compared to all other bikes as a daily rider/commuter are wrong.

[@freedomiseverything]

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[@OrlandoRick]

I really like the bike and enjoyed my recent test drive on it quite a bit. I'm curious how the end of '24 releases of the Can-Am electric motorcycles will change the landscape. However, I was surprised that after having proven themselves as knowledgeable with developing "level 3" DC fast charging on the Livewire, they would not include that with this bike at this price point. Honestly, for $15k, I'd expect both "level 2" and "level 3" support.

[@freedomiseverything]

I've done several videos about this. I agree with you.

[@Choirboyjr11]

A Californian upset an electric bike isn't number 1? You make valid points, but I'd rather take a Versys 650 than a LiveWire any day.

[@Juergen732]

What difference does it make that he's from California asshole? 2:40

[@xophere]

Dude he was equally harsh on the Zero's and the other bikes... Zack is the best reviewer on the internet. There are real issues with all of our bikes.... Come on Jack. Ah well

[@freedomiseverything]

Zac hasn't got a clue about electric bikes. For example, the biggest problem with an S2 as a city bike is that most people in the city don't have access to a plug. Sinse S2 can't DC Fast charge, it's a deal breaker. Zac has no understanding of the charging ecosystem as it relates to electric bikes. He is the last person who should be doing a review. You need someone who lives the electric lifestyle to explain what it takes to ride electric.

[@cerebrix]

ok boomer

[@tl2913]

🤣🤣

[@Kevin-hp5fk]

Old man yells at cloud

[@freedomiseverything]

Young man watches KZbin.

[@Kevin-hp5fk]

@@freedomiseverything I'm flattered mate, but I'm not very young. Just not as hilariously sensitive about others disagreeing with me as you are. Anyway, I had an electric for a while. Did about 100km. Perfect for me at the time, but when I need to do more each day it ceased to be practical. So I got a vstrom. Truly great bike. EVs don't work for everyone, I was even stuck with a model 3 as a company car for a while and given my building does have charging facilities it is so wildly impractical to have an EV. And batteries just aren't energy dense enough yet for bike. If you suddenly decide to ride more that 50% of you range away from home you gotta start planning where you go and the wonderful discover of just riding doesn't happen. Lastly, why would anyone buy a livewire product when there are far better EV bikes out there. Harley spent so much on these things and for some reason didn't build the Bronx, it's as if they don't want to make money.

[@JDelta87]

With respect to your decades of riding experience, everyone's needs/wants are different in life to include motorcycling. Every one of your points has an equally valid counter point. BEVs aren't suitable for everyone to replace their ICE vehicles today. We still have the freedom to ride whatever we want and form our own opinions.

[@freedomiseverything]

Your "Freedom" to ride a gas bike has already been legislated away. The clock is ticking down fast.

[@Kevin-hp5fk]

@@freedomiseverything *quickly goes out to check if I can ride my bike or if legislation will stop me. No buddy, I can go ride my gas bike right now. Your blood pressure must be sky high, step back from the precipice of weird taking points you say but can't back up and go outside. Step away from the computer. Do whatever you did back 50s, get a malt or something.

[@FELiPES101]

A lot of your needs are actually luxuries...okay I watched Zack's video just like most of his other content and you are just reaching because your ego got hurt. It was far from a hit piece. They compare all motorcycles and the goal of the show is to test nearly all aspects of the bikes in a commuting fashion. The bike is expensive for what it is. At the moment I can buy 3 ninja 400s for the price of 1 Del Mar and the ninja is world renown for being both trackable, beginner friendly, and daily ridable with very low maintenance. Just because someone doesn't like a product doesn't make it a hit piece. To me it sounds like you have something extract invested in LiveWire that you arent disclosing. You also fail to quote and rebuttle specific things said in Zack's video. You just complained for 10 minutes without really saying anything.

[@freedomiseverything]

My main intent was to highlight the many important things that Zac left out that are very important to a daily rider like myself. I listed my points in the presentation. The Ninja 400 is not a freeway capable motorcycle. The fact that it is available in the USA without ABS is a reckless disregard for safety on Kawasaki's part. Most countries ban it. The maintenance cost on the Del Mar is zero...

[@pakizeylmaz1847]

yes you can daily ride but you can't join fun rides. you all will need a charger and wait before you leave your meeting point. needs 2 years more tech.

[@cloudbasenirvana]

I will never be riding anything with my legs wrapped around a l!th!um testies and willy removing timebomb.

[@cloudbasenirvana]

I will never be riding anything with my legs wrapped around a l!th!um testies and willy removing timebomb.

[@freedomiseverything]

Electric bikes have a long way to go. We are at the beginning.

[@KinglyKitten]

@@freedomiseverything Which is exactly why they are terrible daily riders right now for much of the population. Yes, I agree with you that electric bikes are great and are most likely the future. But right now, they just can't achieve what most people need out of a bike, whether it be a daily rider, or a fun weekend toy. It may be incredible for you and your purposes for daily riding, but most of the population would not be able to do it which is why it ranks so low.

[@monawoka97]

You make plenty of good points about why electric bikes are great daily commuters. But I think it's a little over the top to call the original video a "Hit Piece". He says a ton of positive stuff about the bike. Basically all the same positive stuff you say in this very video. You just don't agree with his subjective opinion on what he'd recommend to someone. And the elephant in the room you don't spend enough time on is range and cost. Some people can't afford a del mar, outright. And that's part of recommending a bike is accessibility. Range also matters. Sure, you mostly commute on your bike. But the second you wanna go out on a sunny weekend and do a proper full day of exploring you're just out of luck. You have a couple hours tops. A daily rider *should* give the option for pleasure riding on the weekend. The del mar can do that but it's very limiting. Maybe he ranked the bike too low but the above factors definitely erode your stance that he made a "hit piece". I mean just go watch the video again he's very positive about the bike and even argues against the range concerns I describe above.

[@freedomiseverything]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnXRl5JqnZxroa8si=HN7hL7jWdtIHcupG

[@DB-so8zc]

Jeebuz, who lit your tampon fuse? Zack is exercising his 1A rights and if think that somehow his opinion is going to change the course endangering the future sales of the LiveWire brand by a single review then maybe there is a problem LW. Thank goodness we live in a country where we have a choice between purchasing and riding EV or ICE motorcycles. Freedom is Everything! SMH

[@freedomiseverything]

Your choice is short lived.

[@DB-so8zc]

Thanks for the heads up Chicken Little!@@freedomiseverything

[@DB-so8zc]

Wow either YT or you deleted my post. Typical liberal tactic Thanks for the heads up on my short lived choice. Chicken Little! @@freedomiseverything

[@remnbig31]

What if I cant aford an electric bike?

[@freedomiseverything]

The cost of the bike is about $200 a month. Depending on your age, insurance will be your biggest barrier to entry.

[@KinglyKitten]

I think we watched different videos from Zac. In the one I watched, he did nothing but sing praise for the livewire and said it was a great bike, just not a great daily rider. As someone who is a daily rider for several years now, I have to say I agree with him despite having never ridden the bike. The range just would not work for me or many people that I know. Also, the list you posted of "daily rider must haves" seems completely like an opinion. I ride a DR 650 every day and I have for several years now and it has about a quarter of the items you listed and it is still a great daily rider in my opinion. Zac definitely did not post a hit piece. This video is more of a hit piece than his was. He has an opinion, and so do you. It does not mean either of your opinions are wrong, but yours just makes you sound like a fanboy that got upset cause someone ranked your bike lower than 5 other bikes.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

When a Tesla breaks down you could wait months for the parts to repair it ....

[@dbell10]

Never seen anyone get this triggered in my life

[@grandiagod]

Did you read Zach's daily rider article about the bike? He's very clear about the bikes faults and his expectations. I don't sense him being unduly biased. Your video covers why you think The Del Mar a good daily rider, but it doesn't address the problems Zach found with the motorcycle so it seems a bit disingenuous to put his name in the title when you don't address quite a few of the things he said in his video or article. If it's a difference of opinion that's fine I'm not saying one of you is definitely right or wrong, but if you are going to say Zach and Revzilla are shilling and lying like in your description you better come back with some proof other than you disagree with their opinion.

[@freedomiseverything]

I did not read the article. I'm just responding to the nonsense in the video.

[@Kevin-hp5fk]

To expect this guy to do research or to address actual points is a step to far. He just wants to yell into the void about how he's totally correct. First livewire looked good and was a compelling first step, the s2 isn't even in the top 10 of electric bikes available. It's a crowded market right now, and just like the gas bikes, harley is very far from the front of the crowd relying solely on aging boomers and government bailouts to stay afloat.

[@davidmoore_723]

How does the sizeable magnetic field from the electric motor treat your nuts and other organs closely oriented to it. Sorry he hurt your feelings, you could just move on. We all have opinions, no one really cares, do they? You like electric, great. Some prefer ICE, great. Some like blondes, or brunettes, etc.... Ride safe.

[@freedomiseverything]

The sizeable magnetic field assures that you will be able to trip the sensors at stoplights. It works every time.

[@stephensmith1118]

lets face facts Electric bikes are still in the early development phase, range is the big issue and so is cost... i would love to have an electric powered machine but the are too expensive and the range is terrible

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Your willy, testies resting on a lithium timebomb and your legs wrapped around it - no thanks.

[@freedomiseverything]

$200 a month is not too expensive. Plus, no gas and no maintenance.

[@stephensmith1118]

@@freedomiseverything so $200 a month isnt expensive ? depends upon how many months... plus a internal combustion motorcycle are much less expensive, have a greater range and are over their lifetime use are less damaging to the planet than the electric motorcycles... the technology of electric bikes is yet to mature, plus hydrogen is a potential replacement

[@stephensmith1118]

@@freedomiseverything oh every moving thing requires maintenance , try riding your bike without keeping it greased and lubed, brakes require fluid replacement, the no maintenance argument is not valid

[@stephensmith1118]

@@freedomiseverything ok no gas.... but electricity required, how is that electricity generated ? the electricity supply is not sufficient for widespread charging.... this will come with time but its not ready now...

[@Rhetorical346]

Did you even watch his video? Everything he said about the bike is true. It's hilarious you got so butthurt about it you had to make a video, but you don't even demonstrate what about his review is "nonsense" in your reply. It wasn't a hit piece, he said it was a great bike. Just a HORRIBLE choice for your only motorcycle in most circumstances. He's 100% correct. Thanks for the comedy

[@kenhoward3512]

A real-world riding range of only about 70 miles is completely unacceptable, unless you're only wanting a Point-A to Point-B vehicle, rather than something to ride for fun. It's a cool-looking bike in need of better battery capacity and quicker recharging. There are too many other possibilities at that price, until EVs become as affordable and convenient as ICE (in a few years - hopefully).

[@witchdoctor6502]

and here is why I think Del Mar might be good fit for you but is absolutely useless for me - I commute to work, over weekends drive 100+ miles trips and I live in a flat. In short electric motorcycles are basically expensive decorations for me, even a 50cc scooter will serve me better. Unfortunately electric bikes compared to ICE bikes are even worse of than cars. In couple of years once the charging infrastructure is also outside of cities and highways, batteries improve the capacity and charging times this will change, but for now and couple of next years ICE bikes will always be better general choice.

[@freedomiseverything]

Your main problem is that you don't have access to a plug to charge at night. An S2 will never work for you. You need DC Fast charging in your situation. Again, something Zac has no understanding of and didn't talk about.

[@brentr3945]

Thanks, Ken

[@obeii1805]

What about the longevity and reliability of these e motorcycles.. hadn’t seen one with decent miles on them . How many miles your son has on his bike?. And how many more before the battery faults? Ice bikes I seen over 100k miles on same engine and still runs fine especially at the cost of this bike. The Del Mar is a heavy bike with short range and isn’t made for long distance. So it’s a 15k bike, that’s heavy but designed for stop and go riding ? Don’t have to spend 15k to do with this bike do you can spend less and do more ! And this is why he but the bike so low on the list exactly where it needs to be ! And let’s not forget to address how any day battery technological advancement can make this bike completely obsolete oh and let’s not forget the resale value on these bike are horrendous.. and let’s not forget repairs ! Shops are not in abundance and many techs are not trained in dealing with these bikes so most ppl will have no choice but to go to the dealer and it’s more so for warranty reasons as well, and from what I heard from many livewire owners all across the country is the Harley shops really don’t know what they are going and most are having long repair times and part delivery times ( cus u have to get parts from Livewire). I had many tell me they had to return their bike soon after they brought it and even after they received it from being fixed! Oh and let’s not forget the recall on new Del Mar due to loose nut! 15k on a new bike with a recall cause of loosen nuts etc is insane! Yea we appreciate you 40 years plus of rider , but no1 needs 40 years on a bike to conclude you are bias ! And I get it I love electric motorcycles I started on electric never had a gas bike but I been round them enough to know that gas are overall better and electric bikes are toys for those who can afford them .. Oh let’s not forget uncertainties that’s come with these bikes! You have to plan your trips around a bike! Yeah that’s crazy !life is filled with nothing but uncertainties. What if something happens ? What is you plan on charging at a station and you get there and the station is broken then what? What if you are riding and plan to charge at a replanned station you have enough juice to get there but u get an emergency call ? But you can’t turn around and go cus you can’t make it back!? What if your wife or family members got rushed to the er in unstable conditions or what is someone is breaking into you house and your wife calls you telling you someone is breaking in but you can’t go to any aid cus you gotta charge your damn 15k e bike? .. think this isn’t realistic? In a world of uncertainties? You’re foolish my friend .. But I watched all your videos waiting to see if you’ll bring up these things and I know you thought of them because you’re a smart man smarter but you hadn’t ..

[@freedomiseverything]

You're forgetting the elephant in the room. There is no future for gas bikes. You think your going to have a choice? Dozens of excellent gas bikes have already been axed over emissions. The trend is accelerating.

[@jacksomb1]

Check your own handle fella! Indeed Freedom IS everything... Freedom to have an opinion, and express it. If you don't agree with the output, then unsubscribe and go and watch something else...

[@freedomiseverything]

When I see someone in a position of power spreading misinformation about electric bikes, I'm going to call them out.

[@ChitFromChinola]

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair As long as Zac is paid by Revzilla, he’s going to put gas-engine bikes at the top of his list. He will not risk irritating his bosses or their customers.

[@elwood62]

Someone got their feelings hurt.

[@7361biker]

😱, slow down cowboy. You are really over thinking this simple review. It is HIS opinion. And I certainly agree with him, not you.

[@copuis]

so, zac opinion is different from your opinion, and YOUR daliy ride is DIFFERENT from MY daily ride but here is the other thing, where you park you ride is different from where someone else parks theirs I deeply disagree with your opinion for what makes a good daily rider, if your daily ride is in a built up city, a scooter is ideal, power is nice, but its not needed for a daily ride, you're frankly making statements based only on your ride and needs, not the needs for everyone (I am a daily rider covering about a 100kms a day) and here, i agree with Zac bottom of the pile, because for me, I do a long ride, all on highway, there are some spaces where traffic will bunch, and a couple of traffic lights and a roundabout, but there is also sometimes large changes in weather in the course of the day my ride, is a f800st, I park on the street where i live, i am 40+ now is the bmw a cool bike, no, (however bmw handles the heat to the rider really well) it has sharp throttle can lane split but also importantly can fit down the side of my house for storage if the weather is bad, i go on holiday, or its school holidays, and i dont want kids climbing on my bike at night i used to commute on a gpx250, something that would handle the ride fine, some things it was better, most it was behind, it was a perfectly able commuter, HOWEVER while 99% of people would be the BMW is a better daily ride than the Kawasaki, its not, when the gpx was with its old owner, who same age, has a very different commute, he found the gpx better for his daily ride, he has a mt-07 tracer, overall a much better and nicer bike, but, key, not for his commute which is the sort of traffic you're not really going over 40-50kph in, its heavy snarly traffic, it the sort of traffic a scooter is the bomb in, (no wrong gears, light, nimble, great fun) point is, Zac, a man who in the course of one year will have about 40 bikes knows a thing or three

[@freedomiseverything]

You're commute looks alot like mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpDPhnSnjZ58bdUsi=tncKSraUfjZ8OMz5

[@copuis]

@@freedomiseverything cool. but the point is still for me the del mar, is NOT a suitable bike for a daily commute. full stop. no nothing else it is the same for an electric car. not suitable for my use due to a number of factors, some are due to where and how my home is built, and thats before other factors, also, your, not you're but I will stand by zac's opinion, and I think you need to pull your head out a little, and listen to what Zac has been saying about elec bike, which is, he is a fan, thats a fact, he is on record, he loved the sondar bike

[@quintonmacdougall7150]

Lol, "electric motorcycles that offer us the only future for our sport". Your description tells me all I need to know. Your California dogmatic views are showing and I humbly disagree, gas bikes will be around for a long time to come....just maybe not in California.

[@freedomiseverything]

The jokes on you. The list of gas bikes killed by emission regulations is growing longer every day. The bikes that are left are getting weaker and more expensive. Do you really think an R7 is a better bike than an R6? The writing is on the wall.

[@quintonmacdougall7150]

@freedomiseverything For the average user, yes. More torque available from down low with the R7. Aren't you advocating for electrics that make peak torque down low and aren't known for their topend rush? Also america and California is hardly the Needle mover on a global market. Asia sells much more bike than the USA. Not only that for every 4 cylinder that is killed there are 5 twins that pop up, since the regulations you refer to really only kill Uber high rpm bikes. (added in edit)

[@ChitFromChinola]

Well said. Thanks for posting. I watched part of that Daily Rider video, but had to cut it short because it was such a hack job.

[@stevenCox-oj8uu]

CRAP !

[@rickkuda7677]

Couldn't agree more. I don't watch RevZilla much but I did see this bs. I'm so sick and tired of "reputable" entities paying some talking head to trash their advertisers competition. You can practically see his nose grow a few inches when he says he could have had as much fun on the other options. The news is fake, product reviews are fake, every damn thing on the internet or television is fake, fake, fake it seems but honest creators/KZbinrs are easy to spot in comparison and thanks for being one of 'em. For a daily commute I can't find anything that holds a candle to the Delmar/S2 and I'm ordering one soon. Maybe the Mulholland. 🤔

[@countryjoe3551]

OK, Electric Emo......

[@612doteth]

Thanks for making this response video.

[@countryjoe3551]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@FourIntoOne]

Who gives a flying shit either way.

[@LTLT900]

Shame on you for riding an electric pile of junk.!

[@I-Libertine]

No future in gas bikes? 😂

[@freedomiseverything]

None.

[@I-Libertine]

@@freedomiseverything 😂😂 (it keeps getting funnier!!)

[@zavlo72]

Your daily rider definition is odd! I ride everyday and most of your list is just stupid. I don't have a job. I own several vehicles. I often ride in rural areas. And Extreme safety is overdoing it!!! Zac's opinion only has the value you give it! Stopped watching at your daily rider definition.

[@RedBatteryHead]

You're absolutely right. Gonna dump on revzulla video now 🔋⚡💪