Famous Atheist Confronted With Reason To Believe In GOD

In this video, ‪@CosmicSkeptic‬ and I discuss God, the mind, "brute facts", reason, love and a lot more (we end up getting into The Great Isaiah scroll, Wes Huff, Joe Rogan & more in the full podcast, which is coming out soon!) For now - enjoy this clip & subscribe if you aren't so you don't miss anything...
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[@mma3464]

Join me to pray for Alex today! Jesus, encounter him wherever he’s at today, whether that be in an intellectual debate, the Bible, or even his sleep. Jesus, you love him so much to call him Your own. Overwhelm him with Your peace and love he’s never felt before. Amen! We will continually pray for his personal encounter with God ❤️

[@Christina6552]

Amen! I’ve been praying for him the last few weeks. And will continue!

[@nsnowman]

AMEN!

[@Freddyfrm18]

Amem, I believe Alex is going to be like C.S Lewis and is going to convert to Christianity in the future.

[@david-jonayerst5608]

Kind of amazing watching this because I prayed for Alex just this morning. At about 10:00 am GMT +2 as I was leaving the parking lot, I felt the urge to pray for him, and so I did.

[@virgilmontana7]

him and others like him. I have friends like Alex that I cry out to the Lord for

[@pitotzen2387]

Daily Dose of Wisdom + Alex O Connor is not what I expected to see in my feed today. FANTASTIC conversation!

[@jakemize9619]

I know I saw the thumbnail and I was like "no way."

[@DaysofElijah317]

Same I thought it was going to be a reaction video from both directions possibly

[@ethanbrown7198]

Very epic

[@Anyarz7]

me too right? i was about to practice for song and I just had to click.lol

[@FarmerSimulation]

I think this guy genuinely is on his way to becoming saved. He might be an athiest now, but I think God has a plan for him some day.

[@parkerberryhilll]

It's so freaking awesome that yall two are talking. I love that y'all can have a little internet back and forth and then come together face to face and talk rationally and respectfully.

[@RuslanKD]

This was masterfully done!

[@JmPie74]

Yo mama ❤️

[@keatonbeer9674]

Ruslan I’m ready to see you get on Joe Rogan because I think you would be a great vessel for the Lord to use to get to him. You have a great way of presenting the gospel. I have followed your channel for years and think that would be really cool since you have followed Joe Rogan’s journey for so long

[@BioinformaticsBase]

Agree! I wasn’t very eager to press play on this one but I’m happy I did.

[@Arkiejuice]

You’ve done one of the better jobs I’ve seen of engaging with Alex. Good job, man.

[@dogescout5868]

Will have to watch the full discussion. I do appreciate Alex’s ability to have rational and respectful dialogue.

[@boinkermcdoinker]

(unless it's in person with David Wood)

[@jesuschristlovesyoudearly3797]

​@@boinkermcdoinker I can respect his concern for not wanting to attend. Hopefully they can get a chance to debate in the future.

[@dogescout5868]

@@boinkermcdoinker I won’t discredit him for not attending if he genuinely feels it is unsafe. I don’t think Alex is afraid to have a discussion with Wood per se, but I’m not Alex either, so won’t speak for him. I would like to see Alex start talking to more sound Christians like Red Pill and Apologia though.

[@boinkermcdoinker]

@@jesuschristlovesyoudearly3797 @dogescout5868 not sure why he would feel unsafe taking a position Muslims love in a debate against a guy Muslims hate, but it's his choice. I was looking forward to hearing him rationalize a weak position on Jesus (I think Alex is smart and thoughtful but way off on this take) vs D Wood's no nonsense style way more than hearing two Christian friends spar on a tertiary theological topic, so I'm mostly just salty for the loss of a very interesting debate

[@Tristanlj-555]

​@@boinkermcdoinker the problem is that debating against the godly nature of Jesus does not make muslims like him... The videos he received from some muslims saying he should be executed and the threats directly from the source of that hate, Hijab would definitely make me weary of debating in any context where other debaters had received threats from muslims. I don't know all the details of the setup of the debates, though.

[@sandras-p1r]

I have truly never seen anyone challenge Alex so well. Brilliant work. They have differing views but they are on the same exact wavelength, and you can tell they are both loving this. I think Daily Dose of Wisdom is the perfect theological conversation partner for Alex and we need to see much more.

[@richard010nl4]

Being on the same wavelenght would mean that DDOW is willing to accept there isn't a god. I don't think that's the case

[@sandras-p1r]

@@richard010nl4​​⁠ Your statement is non sequitur. Neither DDOW nor Alex claim here that there is no God, so it’s not something that either side need to “accept” in order to be on the same wavelength. Yes, Alex has claimed Atheism in the past, but he has recently stated he is now Agnostic which is different. To be on the same wavelength does not mean you must accept what your opponent is arguing, but that you can properly understand it and consider it on a theoretical level.

[@richard010nl4]

@ To me it's the willingness ( to be wrong and addept) that puts them on different wavelenghts. Alex has always shown he is open to changing his mind (no pun intended). I don't think DDoW is open to do so, but I could be wrong and would have to change my beliefs (pun intended). But I really think it's a difference on the meaning of wavelenght that makes us disagree. Sure, it's a intelligent conversation with mutual understanding, but those are plenty to find on the web.

[@ericsmith5919]

@sandras-p1r If this is the best challenge you've seen, the rest of them must be truly pitiful. The argument here boils down to "God must be real because I don't believe the mind is created by the brain." This statement is absurd on its face. Stick an icepick into a brain and you can watch the mind being obliterated before your eyes. Put some chemicals into the brain to interfere with it and you can feel your mind being changed by them. The notion of a mind existing separately from a brain is nonsensical.

[@francisa4636]

@@sandras-p1r Alex is agnostic with respect to the 'materiality of the mind' not with respect to the existence of god

[@LincolnMcCann]

I love to see these respectful conversations between Theists and Non-theists. So much more useful and helpful than the slinging matches we have so often seen (and still see in the comments section so often). How can we possibly bridge the gap with animosity? Praying for a Holy Spirit encounter for Alex, that the intellectual objections would encounter the reality of God through his Spirit made manifest to him in some way.

[@Iwillreply]

@@LincolnMcCann , Practice steel-manning those you disagree with, and acknowledge any shortcomings of your own arguments and evidence. This will not only allow for greater civility, but, also, a chance to progress any debate or conversation past semantics and avoidable misunderstandings.

[@mitchelltj1]

I truly admire Alex's ability to actively listen, solidify the argument made, and offer his refutation. I hope I can as gracious, yet cunning, in conversations of my own.

[@john-xp4em]

"The 👑GREATEST MAN in HISTORY" had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today! "His name is JESUS❤"

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

Yeah, and as "gawd" he drowned millions of babies

[@ndibunwapeter9013]

💯

[@CSThomasAbrahamC]

Alhamdulliah!!! Christ is KING

[@mamaschmeeda]

Love this!! ❤

[@MichaelHernandez-mv7on]

Wow that's deep, that brought a tear to my eye

[@IlabacaVideoBlog]

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of that which is not yet seen”

[@dane279]

Except that hoping for something is not the same as believing something exists. I hope I get a raise a work, that’s not the same as believing it will happen.

[@songuko4350]

@@dane279 nobody has hope for something they don’t believe exist or is not capable of happening. That is just foolish.

[@dane279]

@ claiming hope is a prerequisite for faith would be more accurate than claiming faith is something you hope for.

[@stephenzaccardelli-thyself]

An ⚛️ answer is a whim Christian 🙏

[@kos-mos1127]

That is poetry. No one believes that faith is a substance in the same way of matter.

[@kxnt_joel1238]

Didn’t expect this collab , God bless the both of you

[@timothy3616]

Y’all haters in the comments gotta chill. This is going to be a great discussion!

[@Cook2430]

Anyone who renounces my higher beings can get fked honestly. Shame hell isn't real so this weak specimen can burn forever but it's not. This is a hellish realm and when we die we all go back to the mainframe as data. Different experiences across all realms, biggest number you can imagine times trillions. No mistakes because we're all vital for the final draft. We're here to suffer that's the point.

[@Swiftninjatrev]

Agreed, regardless of sides.

[@PierreRoustan]

Tremendous conversation. Alex is truly an intellectual of astounding quality, and I do pray for him regardless -- not to "convert" or anything like that (although that would be tremendous), but to continue seeking truth. I vehemently believe he's quite the truth seeker.

[@csajhr]

He is, and has vigorously sought it from all forms of theism and all manner of theists, probably more so that all the watchers of this video combined...and yet he remains an atheist. Truly intellectually astounding, I wonder what kind of person would come to the opposite conclusion?

[@patrickthomas2119]

@@csajhr In recent years I have been in more and more doubt that he is vigorously and openly seeking truth. He has not really adjusted his beliefs with new information in years and he is constantly parroting many of the same cliche ashiest talking points that have been used since atheism was even a relevant worldview. Alex also seems to change his level of courteousness and mocking tone depending on who he is in discussion with; when with William Lane Craig he is really open and fair to christian perspectives, then 2 weeks later is with Dawkins or Rationality Rules on a video and will be openly mocking the same points he was just treating as 'fair' with Craig. If you watch him close he comes across more and more 2 faced as time goes on. He may just being polite; and christians are mistaking his politeness for earnest truth seeking. I think he is doing what he is doing to sort of undermine christian apologetics from inside by appearing as a fair and reasonable opponent; or he could just being doing it to widen his appeal and potential audience to include both christians and atheists alike (more views = more $$$). I do not think he is truly a "non-resistant non-believer" as he claims. Because in order to be a believer you have to accept adjusting some of your presuppositions; for example one what you would count as evidence. While it is true there is no individual piece of evidence that points to a creator; what there is a cumulative case that there being no creator is just less likely. I was an atheist most of my life but in my time studying physics (master's in computational physics) I came to see that there are so many conveniences in nature for reality to be what it is that is became harder and harder to accept that randomness was a viable option. randomness I could accept as an explanation for any 1 thing (such as muons behavior, quarks, other sub atomic phenomenon, origin of life, universal constants, evolution leading to consciousness and on and on). What I could not accept that all of these and more were merely lucky accidents. That would be more of a miracle then a man raising from the dead. So these means I had to adjust what I considered to be valid arguments and valid evidence. A cumulative case that there is a creator IS a form of evidence and a valid argument. But if you don't accept that you are being resistant to the argument and the case, which mean you ARE a resistant non-believer. that is what Alex is. Calling himself "non-resistant" IMO is a sign he is fooling himself (or trying to pull a fast one on his audience).

[@nixlad]

What a civil and honest discussion. No attacks or insults, just genuine discussion. Good on you both for coming together for this.

[@raisondetre.Is53]

Just want to say what a BEAUTIFUL conversation. I’m so glad you two met each other! ❤

[@sdud1801]

Truth isn’t simply facts and information to be apprehended, it’s an embodied, lived experience, and ultimately, a person.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

No.

[@RoninTF2011]

Why should it be an "embodied" anything...or a person?

[@graphicmaths7677]

@@RoninTF2011 Because it fits into their Christian belief system.

[@glheath11]

@@graphicmaths7677yeah truth and love are awful

[@FutureAbe]

why a person? Why not a donkey, for instance?

[@franroxburgh6055]

I've just finished reading "Why the Universe is the way it is" by Hugh Ross. For anyone who is wrestling with the creation of the universe as it's being discussed in this video, I would highly recommend that book.

[@nsnowman]

YES! I love Hugh and his ministry, Reasons to Believe. I also highly recommend Return of the God Hypothesis, by Stephen Meyer

[@warpnweft2192]

Have you seen his lights in the sky and little green men sermon? Absolutely amazing and chilling

[@kos-mos1127]

Hugh Ross does not understand why the universe is the way it is.

[@RoninTF2011]

Does it offer any sound argument?

[@kos-mos1127]

@ No

[@stu1002]

Great conversation . I do find it hilarious how Alex O'Connor is doing more for the Kingdom of God than 90% of Christians out there just by the conversations he is having, God Bless him.

[@arturocabrera4236]

Whoa! Former Atheist. One step closer Thank you Lord! 🙏🏽

[@XiauWuhan]

same, amen

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book claims it's the holy truth." ♦"Religion is founded on the fear & gullibility of many & the cleverness of few." ♦"The delusional religious are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious believe by the millions what only lunatics may believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free the religious from the chains they revere." ♦“To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God.” ♦"The death of dogma is the birth of morality." ♦"Religion fools many bc the brain is susceptible to hallucination & gullibility."

[@DaysofElijah317]

@@AtamMardesYou have never examined the claims of faith seriously if that is what you think.

[@peterbrooks1781]

​@@AtamMardesVoltaire, Kant, Twain, Kierkegaard. All theists.

[@peterbrooks1781]

​@@AtamMardesVoltaire, Kant, Twain, Kierkegaard. All theists.

[@ConvincedofChristianity]

Not only a great video, but the greatest cliffhanger ever!

[@chrismoreno8870]

Appreciate Alex coming on and speaking on this site. One can infer that he has awareness of the mystery of mind v matter great mystery. He wants to explain things in a materialistic manner so bad yet can't really ever conclusively reach a materialistic explanation. Admitting he's agnostic is a remarkable statement in and of itself.

[@exactopposite]

Most atheists are. They just don't feel like participating in the semantics debate.

[@dfwherbie8814]

Stop meat munching this kid 🍆

[@kos-mos1127]

Things cannot be explained in the idealistic world view.

[@debblouin]

@@exactoppositeyes. The biggest nut to crack isn’t the agnostic/atheist but the anti-theist who calls himself an atheist. He actually does believe but rages at God. Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens come to mind.

[@aidanya1336]

You know do know that when talking minds and brains, being materialistic on this does not mean you are a full materialist on everything. Most atheists are naturalists, only 10%-4% or so are full materialists. But when it comes to brains and minds generally there are only 2 groups of explanations, those from materials and those from non-material. Naturalists technically could hold to both, while full materialists would be forced into the first. Alex says he is agnostic, so he probably is not a full materialist. Which makes your statement that he wants to explain things in a materialistic manner but cant, incorrect. I suppose he wants to offer a fair counter view to that of the host eventho he doesn't hold it himself in order to not make people think there is none.

[@christiangibbs391]

Congratulations Brandon 👏 I've been watching your channel for years. I truly appreciate the respect you show your guests, regardless of their beliefs & ideologies 😇🙏❤️ Keep sowing those seeds brother 🏞️ You will see your harvest with all that you've reaped 🙏 And sincere kudos to Alex for coming on the podcast & being willing to converse with others that you inherently disagree with...."Presently" 😇🙏 "God is going to reveal Himself to you, not through your cognitive understanding, but through His Holy Spirit" *Zechariah 4:6* *Not by Might* *Nor by Power* *But by My Holy Spirit* *Says the Lord Almighty*

[@Hazardboymedia]

Alex kills it with common sense every time

[@jamesemerson7445]

I am constantly amazed when people spend their lives seeking truth, just to find that the truth was revealed 2,000 years ago.

[@FutureAbe]

How convenient. Except, of course, for all the billions of people that lived before 2000 years ago

[@360.Tapestry]

the truth is revealed every single moment - if you know where to look

[@DerekHarding]

@@jamesemerson7445 I’m constantly amazed how people spend their lives seeking truth and it’s always revealed in the faith tradition of the society in which they were raised. Regardless of which tradition that is.

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

Only a really gullible person believes everything he reads without doing serious fact checking

[@piage84]

It wasn't. Jesus was liar (Matthew 16:28) he said he was coming back (second coming) during the lifetime of his disciples. He didn't. Also, Jesus didn't fulfil a single messianic prophecies and broke many laws of god. So, he was not only a liar, but also a fraud. Definitely Christianity is not the truth.

[@savageryreally7058]

The way he went about this is very refreshing. Massive W for DDOW

[@debblouin]

This is the most humble and open conversations I have seen Alex have.

[@ExploringReality]

Good job on this interaction bro! There's ALOT I could say on what Alex was saying, for example that "bundle" comment he made in reference to brute facts was really confused imo. Happy to see this.

[@murderessmarbie]

Right. That's exactly what I was thinking😂

[@KalonOrdona2]

Amazing, and props to Alex for continuously engaging in a respectful and open way. Can't wait to see the whole thing!

[@orssonvicviper5795]

Great guest to have. Alex is such a fantastic conversationalist. I love how open he is to speaking with opposing viewpoints.

[@ChildofGod990]

It’s crazy how even Alex strengthens my belief in God. Smart kid just has to open up to him.

[@davethebrahman9870]

@@ChildofGod990 Crazy indeed!

[@ChadKingOfficial]

I don't see how Alex can make someone faith in God stronger. Could you give a reason?

[@Okabe_Rintaro_]

​@@ChadKingOfficialyeah I also wanna know.

[@gachamansama3703]

Could you open up to Atheism? Stop telling people to open up.

[@quiqueesparza8106]

He has done everything to open up to him, still he has seen or felt nothing

[@Biblisch_korrekt]

So Awesome to see how the Lord is working on Alex, all glory to Jesus! Christ is King!

[@paulhadlington8179]

Not so, Alex ditched any idea Christian faith ages ago... He's too smart to be brainwashed again.

[@CiscoWes]

@@paulhadlington8179 You never know what’s going on in someone’s mind. Perhaps he will come out of the “brainwashing” as you say and come back to the truth. Many have ditched atheism once they find it can’t answer any questions and it’s a hopeless belief that has no foundation. Alex might very likely return to the Truth some day.

[@IsaacUncooked]

@@CiscoWes Similarly, many have ditched christianity/islam/judaism when they come to realize there can't possibly be a caring omnipotent being that truly cares about them. They talk about being freed from the guilt and fear of a fairy tale that plagued them their whole lives. It goes both ways.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

@@CiscoWes "Many have ditched atheism" Well not that "many" when compared with amount of people who are ditching Christianity. "it can’t answer any questions" It's not supposed to. But being able to answer questions is not really impressive if you can't demonstrate that your answers are actually true. Science can do that. Religion can't. "it’s a hopeless belief" It's not a belief to begin with, so I see you have no idea what you are talking about to begin with.

[@paulhadlington8179]

@ The "truth" with no demonstrable evidence? Former Christians (like Alex and myself) once we rid the shackles of religion, never go back... most of educated Europe has realised religion is not required)

[@amac9044]

This video should be titled "Brandon, exquisitely demonstrates the Argument from Ignorance Fallacy"...😂😂

[@SethPierce-k8m]

Im so Glad to come across your channel the deconstruction movement on the internet made me doubt but i stand on the word of God an channels like yours have been such a blessing to me ❤

[@adamr456]

I really enjoyed that conversation. Alex was more genuine and relaxed than I’m used to seeing him. Great honest respectful discussion

[@room2growrose623]

I’m glad that he admitted that he’s an agnostic because I think that’s one of the reasons why he is blowing up is because he has a curiosity like a genuine curiosity. This was such a fascinating conversation because the truth is is that we Christians can argue all of the brute facts individually from our place of belief, but more importantly on this concept of the mind, creating matter in our limited understanding, even we can create things we can take things that are available to us and put them together and create something and we have to try to conceptualize that God can see the particles of the universe. God can see theunseen particles of the universe and he can compose them into something because he is the “I Am”. Even in proposing His mind to matter we have to think a little bit higher than our materialistic minds can’t conceptualize .

[@PatJSchreiber]

Idk he might be doing the trick atheists do where they’re like “I’m only 99% sure God isn’t real!” so in their mind they’re not making a positive claim, and they think everyone else has a burden of proof. It’s really annoying because they clearly don’t think God is real. While we think He is. We’re both making claims.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@PatJSchreiberyou DO have the burden of proof there’s absolutely no escaping that. Rejecting your UNPROVEN claims is NOT a claim. I don’t need evidence to say you’re wrong-that’s what the burden of proof is for. And the theist obviously hasn’t met it.

[@jamiegriffin3777]

I dunno... It seems to me that he's gone to agnostic because it's easy to argue with "I don't know" and have to defend nothing than it is to have an actual viewpoint and have to defend it. If you listen to him, he really just knocks everything down without actually placing anything out there to defend. It's brilliant from a debating standpoint, but doesn't help if the true object is to find and understand truth.

[@PatJSchreiber]

@ Precisely.

[@PatJSchreiber]

@ I disagree.

[@mikaeljohansson9341]

Wow! This conversation before bedtime. Although seemingly far from eachother this interaction is healthy. Alex mind is engaged and struggles to connect some dots, or rather accept them. It’s a beautiful conversation. I pray that Alex with Gods help turns his heart to Christ. God bless!

[@RoninTF2011]

What mean is: Alex does not accept assertions made sans evidence?

[@GrimSMPOfficial]

Love watching Alex wrestle with God, wonderful intellectual mind, praying for him 🙏

[@csmoviles]

Alex is a cowardly parasitic creature whose entire career has been built on bashing refuting Christianity. He is full of pride , who is a self-appointed judge of the Almighty. He doesn't take the same stance when it comes go allah. That speaks volume on whether or nor he is sincere and after genuine search for thr truth. He is a spineless cowardly hypocrite, who attacks God and yet, somehow, the Christians still want to platform him. Alex makes his living out of Christianity. He has heard every argument there is about Christianity, but he is just not interested in seeking the Truth. He is interested in self exaltation and humiliating Christian faith. Stop following him and just pray

[@YeshuaMyGod]

He is not wrestling with God, he is waging war and guises it as ‘rational agnosticism’. His articulation and soft spoken nature is very palatable, which is dangerous for a lost masses.

[@sotomarkou9588]

The thought came first. Speaking it into action is the Word.

[@weightednormal3682]

I struggled when I was younger to believe in God because I was constantly bombarded with the atheist message. I wanted to believe God, and so I asked him to explain why there were all of these supposed contradictions between the Bible and science. It was a few months later that I was reading the story of Nicodemus in which Jesus responded "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." While reading those worlds I felt God explain to me that all of science is restricted to flesh. Every scientific inquiry is made of flesh, and that all of those questions will only ever return an answer in the same language that it is asked. In the same way, there is a spiritual inquiry that will return spiritual answers. Romans 8:6 also makes this statement "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,"

[@truthboom]

why God is associated with Human religions, The chance of it not being associated is infinitely higher

[@juananrodriguez6167]

​@@truthboom let every person explain their own way to God to their children and see what comes out of that. We wouldnt even have the Bible if it werent for the Church.

[@mistiehall3440]

Beautiful, made me think. I love how the bible full circle answers all my questions, and logically, and spiritualy connects to make a whole picture .

[@davidplummer2473]

@truthboom You are assigning God's existence and therefore his sovereignty to Probability, which would in such a case be the real "I Am", through which all else has its existence -- or lack thereof. But probability is not a substance or entity unto itself, and certainly not God, but just a way for us to grope through the smoke and haze of apparent chaos. So it is ultimately a phantom. Because either God exists or not; neither he nor anything else can straddle that line. If he exists, you have a point in that we can't reach him or figure him out on our own. That is precisely the Bible's view; his thoughts and ways are higher than ours to put it mildly, it says. Moreover, the Bible asserts that God is keenly aware of our spiritual poverty in reaching out to him and therefore he has reached out in revelation to us because, beyond being innately aware that there is something beyond the physical universe, there isn't much we can do at this end. Either the Bible is right or wrong about that and the God of Probability has nothing to say about it. But if God does exist, there is no avoiding him being associated with human religions. They clearly disagree on many things but none of them is 100% wrong. All agree that there is some kind of supernatural realm, and that the God or gods who run everything are above us and ignoring or disregarding him or them can only be done at our peril. All agree that there is some transcendent moral code we should all know and observe, that morality really isn't just a sociocultural flavor of the month. Atheism or agnosticism are outliers born of the tecnocratic fog of Western affluenza; man's default setting has been an instinct for God across time and continents. But with the exception of hard atheism, a la Nietszche, even they smuggle in supernatural elements as they coast on the fumes of the religious heritage they reject. Either God is real and therefore it's well worth trying to get to know him, to see if he has tried to reveal himself to us, or there is only matter and energy, in which case it doesn't matter what anyone does, ever.

[@DM-dk7js]

Atheist message? You mean k-12 public science education lol?

[@CSThomasAbrahamC]

What is love.... Baby don't hurt me

[@mattandcandle]

@@CSThomasAbrahamC I came to the comments looking for this one.

[@CSThomasAbrahamC]

@@mattandcandle 😆

[@grofakrl]

drop the full interview/discussion ASAP!

[@LJM_144]

I have been praying for Alex for a while now. I think he really wants to know the truth, and one day I do believe God will reveal it to him and give him a heart of flesh. For now, I’m glad to see that he is willing to have these conversations.

[@CMA418]

I didn’t find God until stopped believing in fairy tales.

[@AlexCrouchCFP]

@@LJM_144 I have never prayed for a stranger in my life before (and I hardly pray at all if I’m being honest. But the other day I felt an intense urge to pray for Alex. You can tell he has a good heart. I almost feel like his fame has done him a disservice because he doesn’t have the luxury of working through ideas in a normal timeline in private like the rest of us. Instead he has to be congruent with his prior assertions, and I almost get the sense that he says some things he doesn’t reallllly believe because he would be giving up his identity to say the opposite. I hope some day he takes a break from the spotlight to sort things out on his own without the pressures of the public eye.

[@stayathomemomlifepaigedeck1992]

⁠@@AlexCrouchCFPI totally agree with what you’re saying, there’s been a few notable people within the last few months that have been put on my heart to pray for. I like the way Alex articulates himself, and he reminds me of me a few years ago like he’s struggling with getting the understanding that Jesus is God. It took me doing a deep dive and realizing the monumental amount of evidence God, Jesus, and the Bible has above anything else. Sometimes we blind ourselves by needing that one piece of evidence.

[@Okabe_Rintaro_]

Why hasn't your God already done it? Also how come your god have the time to help him but not the others in imminent need of help? Genuinely asking.

[@alexhernandez2367]

@@Okabe_Rintaro_We believe that anyone who is genuine in their search in truth will have the truth revealed by God. However there could be a number of reasons why it might be hard to accept. One of the reasons could be that someone has had a bad/traumatic experience from someone who claimed to be Christian so they might associate Christianity with those evil actions that were done. Another reason might be that a person finds the commandments that Christianity has and not want to follow them (love your enemies, living a sober life, forgiving people who have wronged you even though they might have done heinous things to you, giving up a life of lust and waiting to have sex before marriage, etc). However even though a person could have these hurdles, if they continue in their search for truth we believe that God will lead them to Him. However the path might take longer according to the hurdles one might have

[@christiandelpino545]

Man, catching him on the immaterial mind was masterfully done. Praying for you and Alex.

[@JonL1986]

Loved this! Anyone else want to see Alex and Chris Langan just have a conversation together?

[@benliftin4awhile]

I pray Alex gets saved soon.

[@isaaccpt6643]

I've been praying for him! I think he's getting close 😊

[@83Bongo]

@@isaaccpt6643 🤣 Maybe if he has a brain injury he might be stupid enough to believe the nonsense. Otherwise, no chance.

[@derrickvaughn7921]

In Jesus Mighty name Amen 🙏

[@BrayanSaverino]

@@benliftin4awhile amen

[@calebsmith7179]

I hope you become an atheist soon.

[@Freddyfrm18]

Wow the author book analogy was awesome. I'm gonna use that next time I'm debating an atheist. That was awesome, right on!

[@QuiqueFuenteSIT]

@Freddyfrm18 I think that one really missed the mark as an atheist and wouldn't recommend it. It's missing the point in a way that the metaphor doesn't follow. A book making an author is a very different set and doesn't in any way interact with the question being discussed of does the brain make conscious or does conscious drive the physical brain. A book is clearly a product as it comes after the author but the same is not clear for the brain and consciousness.

[@kos-mos1127]

That author and book analogy does not work on atheists.

[@CiscoWes]

@@kos-mos1127 It’s hard to say that ANYTHING works on atheists. All we can do is plant a seed and they can reject it or they can honestly examine the opposing views. There’s no telling how many atheists deep down know they are wrong or know they can’t prove their position but won’t dare admit it. All you need to do is offer an argument that someone might actually investigate rather than brush off.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

"the author book analogy was awesome" It's really not. This chair is made of wood, therefore everything is made of wood? It's very obviously incredibly silly, not "awesome". Analogies are not evidence.

[@CiscoWes]

@@WhiteScorpio2 Analogies are an example. The point being they’re all evidence, just as creation is proof of a Creator as we can observe intelligent design and incredible complexity in even the smallest of things like a cell.

[@davejackson5293]

Not sure if you guys ever spoke to one another directly, but I’m glad to you 2 interacting. This is sooo good

[@7Nahshon]

Really looking forward to when you put out the full video of this interaction. It’s a great back and forth conversation, with the truth of Christianity (taught to humanity through Gods Word, the Bible) really coming out on top and shining brightly, as the only beacon of hope. Praise Jesus.

[@notavailable4891]

Awesome you had him on. Good discussion.

[@Michalis_B]

I do believe that people are overthinking and overanalyzing things concerning God's existence. God is hidden in simplicity and humility.

[@arthurcheater3359]

Cor. 1:27 - "but God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong;"

[@truthboom]

that's why i don't take Abrahamic Faith seriously for that's what God is showing me.

[@frankf5426]

God lives in the imagination of people who believe in him. Outside the realm of thoughts you will not find him.

[@davidplummer2473]

@frankf5426 Empty assertion.

[@lucacuradossi1040]

​@@davidplummer2473please find him somewhere else and win a Nobel prize

[@Alex-wv3qe]

Good to see Alex on here.

[@jose11287]

Alex O’Connor is one of the most logical, reasonable and well articulated atheists/agnostics today. If you’re not watching these videos and challenging your own line of thinking with what he says you’re missing out! Keep praying for him what a bonus it’d be to have him on our team 🙏🏽

[@ColinDonisthorpe]

Yeah I’m not a fan of christians bashing on him so hard. I’m okay with people calling out his arguments, but we should be doing it with grace.

[@Disconsonance777]

@@ColinDonisthorpe I think a lot of Christians bash on him because they notice how well-thought out and articulated his arguments and reasoning are so out of a sort of panic they resort to being negative towards him. I say this as a Christian myself.

[@jebediah4780]

Putting a non believing man on a pedestal and saying everyone should "challenge their own line of thinking with what he says"... then saying it would "be a bonus to have him on our team"... that is just not Christian. You don't have to "challenge your own line of thinking" with misinterpretation of scripture or pseudointellectual posturing. The only bonus to "having him on our team" would be a bonus for himself. There is nothing that the intellect of any man can offer to God as help, certainly not a middling intellect catering to the large angry uneducated caste of Generation Z for money.

[@ColinDonisthorpe]

@ I agree! The temptation is there for me as well when I don’t know how to answer a question. I really have to focus on not getting in my feelings. Lord forgive me

[@jebediah4780]

@ None of you are Christians.

[@jameswatts2338]

This has been a delightful conversation. In my opinion, this is one of the best interactions I have seen between Alex and a believer. Keep up the good work guys, and God bless.

[@DM-dk7js]

Alex is always courteous to believers. Even when they can’t prove god exists, or anything else for that matter.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@YuelSea-sw2rpmaybe if I were running around insulting you all but I’m actually engaging in good faith discussions. So no. Good try tho. Pointing out the fact that you have no evidence for your beliefs or claims isn’t rude per se. You’re just thin skinned.

[@TboneWTF]

@@DM-dk7js I've noticed and experienced the wrath of believers before. I've been deemed an "creature" by one "sweet" old believer lady and other utterances (that yt would delete if mentioned) by supposed preachers and evangelists! Nothing is more alarming than the "love" of a believer! Just look at how this guy makes disparaging remarks when he has run out of excuses.

[@DM-dk7js]

⁠@@YuelSea-sw2rpyeah dude don’t be so thin skinned. You’ve got god on your side after all don’t you 😂. So anyways back to the substance-got any evidence you god exists? No. You don’t. Hence I’m an atheist. And you still believe in imaginary friends.

[@einarorsteinsson5293]

Wow, I really enjoyed that, both very relaxed and respectful, looking forward to more.

[@InvisageStudios]

Alex is very clearly a highly intelligent man and his abstract thinking ability is incredible. When I listen to him explain things I just can’t help but think that the simple answer is God - an immaterial, timeless and infinitely powerful being who can literally do anything. I think what makes Alex so unique is he always seems open to possibly being wrong, he’s always thinking of plausible logical responses which differs him from the likes of Dawkins who seems to fight for atheism as if any counter argument were an attack of his identity rather than what it truely is - a desire to discover and understand the truth. I’m not sure if Alex will ever get to the point where he goes “It’s more logical that God created all of this” but he’s got infinitely more chance of arriving at that conclusion over other atheists who’s entire identity is their atheistic belief. I’m fascinated by deep conversations about the mind like this, especially when we’re using the very thing we don’t understand to try and understand.

[@laze4534]

The only way Alex will ever believe in a god is if actual evidence and reason is discovered in support of a god. So most likely never.

[@asamoahemmanuel4632]

No i believe he is an atheist but claiming to be agnostic. An agnostic seeking for the truth will read the scriptures and consider it's context but for Alex, he wants the Bible to agree with him

[@joannaborg9850]

Well said🙏

[@HunnysPlaylists]

Being Is A Creation Of God.

[@joemiller7082]

@@asamoahemmanuel4632 most atheists are also agnostic. They aren’t exclusive propositions.

[@WhatWouldJesusMeme]

Alex seems extremely intelligent and intellectual, but his PRIDE is so high! Being an atheist has become his religion that I fear he will never explore the possibility of Jesus… Please take a moment to pray for him ❤ God Bless 🙏

[@ithurtsbecauseitstrue]

Also, his audience will become a trap. $$$

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

Jeesus wuz invented so that preachers and apologists could make a fast buck out of low IQ gullible people who can't think for themselves

[@jameshartley7644]

@WhatWouldJesusMeme Let's hope his fate is that of CS Lewis, who also set out to disprove the existence of God and in the process, found salvation.

[@Mahvan.]

i agree with both comments 100%, especially the pride thing. the pride holding people back becomin christians, thats what myself experiencing in talks with family, friends and customers. as more intelligent and intellectual a atheistic person is, the higher the pride

[@julesknight1511]

@@Mahvan. Makes me wonder if Lucifer was so highly intelligent that his sense of pride was unimaginably enormous

[@padronaan9188]

Really complex conversation over mind vs matter and then straight into "what is love?" BOOMMM!! 😂 i love it 😊

[@exactopposite]

The arguments for God where Christianity is sidelined, intentionally or not, are always the best ones. Kudos for some original content.

[@wraves693]

I would say that one fits perfectly with the other, because OK, we've somehow managed to prove that God exists, the next question is: What is he like? Is he good? Does he care about us? It is impossible for human existence to have knowledge of something that transcends the physical world, so the only way we can know what God is like is if he interacts with us, and when you examine all the religions that try to answer these questions, Christianity is not only the most complete point of view, but the most plausible when judging things like historical evidence for example.

[@exactopposite]

@ Agree, those are logical next questions. Hardly answered by the Christian model based on what we can observe, tho.

[@WhiteScorpio2]

@@wraves693 "Christianity is not only the most complete point of view, but the most plausible" I find Christianity to be the most incoherent system of belief I ever encountered. "historical evidence" Historical evidence shows Bible stories to be untrue, I don't know what you are talking about.

[@H3arlet]

“What is love?” Me: 🎶 baby don’t hurt me no more 🎶

[@CiscoWes]

I’m glad I am not the only one with that song going in my head now 😂

[@anthonyleonti739]

This guy, by the grace of God, will hopefully be like a C.S. Lewis type. Extremely intelligent atheist to servant of the Lord. I’ll be praying for you brother.

[@RoninTF2011]

Hmm, none of the works of Lewis, nor stuff written about him, indicates at any point that he was a non believer. Odd....

[@EliWintercross]

​@RoninTF2011 CS Lewis literally said that he became an atheist, then as he got older he came back to God. You must not have looked very hard.

[@vandilay77]

Man, I've been hoping for this one. Nice cliff hanger! As a Christian, I love this channel but I also really appreciate Alex's approach to these questions. I feel one of the bigger objections for us as Christians to attempt to resolve is "the distancing of God" problem or the "hardening of hearts" issue. Alex really puts this issue on the front burner for me. For someone that is so actively pursuing answers, why is it so hard for him to find Him? We all have different paths and His plan is of course, so much greater and beyond our comprehension. My prayer for Alex is that he continues his pursuit of The Truth and somewhere along the journey, enters into a relationship with our personal Lord and Savior.

[@georgepalacios8103]

I believe so, when I talk with other believers I will often ask them if someone was praying for them to know Christ and guess what they almost always say yes. Blessings!!!

[@Maikigai]

“Mind creates matter” Yet we’re learning that even matter is just another form of energy. The supernatural is showing to be more and more science-fact today more than ever before. I HIGHLY recommend watching some Dr. Alphonso Monzo interviews. I haven’t heard anyone explain this better than him.

[@Rell-o7f]

@@Maikigai all matter came from somewhere

[@nicholassmith2237]

I’m confused as to what that proves? We’ve know matter is a form of energy for a while. Neither energy nor matter come from nothing. Either the universe is eternal, or something outside of matter and energy created it. Like a supernatural mind.

[@TrustGod175-uh5bv]

A good portion of the Old Testament has been discovered though, along with their miracles. Like the Egyptian Cartwheels found in the bottom of the sea, as well as the Pharaoh that was buried in white because he died in sea. The war in Kings was also recorded in one of the neighboring nations iirc and the list goes on. You also have the brimstone that was found in sawdhum (youtube censor) made of 98% purity, with no volcanoes in the area and the purest form of sulfur being 48% by natural means, there is no explanation for it. Because it cannot exist in the natural world. The flood is also recorded in over 130+ legends around the world all from different cultures, but the bible offers measurements of the ark that can withstand 30 ft waves. Because when God split the people in the tower of Babel, it would make sense that they would still remember the world wide events, but over time the source was lost without God. Jesus' resurrection was also recorded by the ancient Chinese and they didn't even know who Jesus was, yet on the same day, in the same hour, they intuitively knew that the son of God was killed. And the ancient Chinese also have the story of Genesis recorded inside of their alphabet. Seek Christ so you can go to Heaven, and keep on researching, the list goes on and on, watch NDE's by Shawn Ryan for example. Different people from different religions yet 95% all seen the same heaven described in the Bible.

[@jumanian7346]

@@Rell-o7f in what sense? As in did it come from one place and move to another or are you saying something created matter? It's correct to say matter can move from one place to another but it is hard to say that matter DEFINITIVELY came from something. It is entirely possible that all matter has just existed.

[@Torpax_]

​@@jumanian7346 it's pretty nonsensical to posit that everything functions in a causal relationship and yet deny that there is an initial uncaused causer, or unmoved mover

[@kenother3877]

Romans 1:22 explains all atheist arguments

[@coleberg9569]

Another christian youtube chanel appearance. Though it may not be apparent, I really hope the Lord is up to something beneath the soil. Who knows the heart of man but God? Still praying for Alex's heart today!

[@Torpax_]

Amen!

[@DougTown]

What is it you’re praying for? For God to intervene and open Alex’s heart?

[@c7b7]

A real pleasure listening both, thank you!

[@MaxSchmidt-g4k]

I appreciate you and the content you create.

[@DianaEmily-o6v]

*I'm thrilled you created this!* It reminds me of my incredible journey from humble beginnings to achieving a comfortable life, earning a generous income of $89k biweekly, and a new chapter of financial freedom.

[@LisaNancy-j3p]

How were you able to do It?

[@LisaNancy-j3p]

Am a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down 😭 of myself because of low finance but I still believe God

[@DianaEmily-o6v]

its luck, it's me just being at the right place at the right time. I met a financial and trading consultant at a seminar back at Los Angeles later last year, where she was featured and interviewed and I reached out to her afterwards. Her name is Elizabeth Ann Hanson, I didn't know much about trading and investing so I spoke to her about it, she then later introduced me to her platform where I and other people could invest.

[@DianaEmily-o6v]

Elizabeth Ann Hanson's doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.

[@SherriKistler]

Lovely! I enjoyed it like I enjoy a $100k monthly around the turn!!!

[@tramellcomfort]

All I can do is continue to pray for this man and hope he sees the truth. It would be so beautiful to see him accept God. He would also be a great tool to spread the gospel.

[@grimknight1452]

Here’s the thing though, let’s say he “accepts Jesus into his heart” that still doesn’t mean Jesus was the messiah and there’s a God type being. Even if every single person on planet earth was a Christian that wouldn’t mean anything. Because at the end of the day if Jesus was just another human man and the universe came from something other than an intelligent creator then everyone on earth just wasted their time believing in something incorrect. Who knows though, maybe we’re all wrong about reality.

[@Trucking4Jesus]

@@grimknight1452 i like to paint rocks

[@livesofluxuries]

@@grimknight1452right on

[@livesofluxuries]

What is up with you Christian trying to force your truth. Upon other people truth why does it matter.

[@boogerstastesalty]

@@livesofluxuries There is no "your" truth or "my" truth. There's THE truth. Someone is right, and someone is wrong. If you see someone doing something that will end in their demise, you would try to help them. It's not out of control, it's out of compassion.

[@chadmarquardt3047]

You’re awesome man, thanks for all you do. Where can we find this full talk?

[@exactopposite]

He finally produces some original content - I'm guessing it'll be milked over many, many episodes.

[@LovinGodandmusic]

So grateful for you and what you are doing Brandon. I so look forward to new videos and conversations with incredibly interesting people and thought. God bless you and all who see and hear these conversations, and the gospel of Jesus the Christ. Your deep love for Jesus emanates from every word you utter with the utmost humility and love for your neighbor. Thank you 🙏 ❤️

[@JesseSpeaksYT]

I'm getting strong simulation-avatar vibes here. The mind’s full essence seems to exist beyond our comprehension-our bodies limit our understanding, yet we intuitively sense an external force guiding our decisions, whether for better or worse.

[@TonyTheTemplar]

The "what is love" question leading into a "to be continued" was a great way to end the video and give us more to look forward to. I've noticed Alex seems much more happy now. He seemed to smile a lot more now. I'm wondering if something changed his mood. We will continue to pray for him ❤️

[@Tomonaroma1221]

The Bible answers the 3 most important worldview questions: - How did we get here? - How did it get so messed up? - And how do I fix it? The Atheist has no answer to these questions. But for the Christian, for those born again by the Spirit, our immutable answers come from the immutable GOD, and we have God’s peace which surpasses all understanding. Until the Atheist seeks and finds GOD, they will not find rest. But “For we who have believed enter that rest.” (Hebrews 4:3)

[@Alien1375]

Making up answers does not make them true

[@83Bongo]

No, no and no. The only thing the bible proves is that the God of the bible is an impossibility.

[@jjphank]

The Bible proves how The building blocks of the universe got here; matter, and energy got here and how the law of entropy got here! It’s the only worldview That explains the law of entropy, 2nd Law of thermodynamics found in the second chapter, not the 500th chapter! That’s just the beginning of evidence ! Evolutionists can’t go that far back down the road of truth!

[@Godsfavoritehoneybee]

​@@Alien1375 denying truth doesn't make it not true ❤❤❤

[@Alien1375]

@@Godsfavoritehoneybee Claims are not evidence. 🤗

[@Rockingoldman4777]

Random advice from a metalhead in his 80s, stop being negative, like just see what jesus has done. Smile genuinely. Because God loves yall and I love yall. Please rock on. Christ is risen.

[@HideyoshiR]

Yesss finally! This was so good. Loved (no pun intended) the last question out of nowhere haha

[@b_uppy]

Very good convo. This was less arrogant than many Christian/Atheist interactions.

[@ithurtsbecauseitstrue]

For Alex to be famous for saying tired old discarded things like “Animal Suffering” and “Genocide” and “Jesus never claimed to be God in those exact precise words I loaded as a requirement” shows how stupid social media has made everyone.

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

Almost as stoopid as believing in talking snakes and donkeys, and that 5000 were fed with two McFish burgers

[@misha8112]

Lame comment ​@@zhengfuukusheng9238

[@IramCoercere]

@@zhengfuukusheng9238If there is God those things you have mentioned are nothing

[@lauramann8275]

God created the universe and the laws that govern it. Think about that.​@@zhengfuukusheng9238

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

@@IramCoercere If if if......if the magic seahorse exists, it can create a universe in 5 days (less time than Yahweh)

[@psalm421]

Full talk soon?!

[@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom]

Yes

[@stevenrivard9246]

THAT'S WHY idealism is TRUE. If limited humans can create objects and characters in their mind... Then surely an unlimited mind like God could create a very detailed universe with individual creatures in His mind. Doesn't quantum physics already prove that information is at the bottom of every "physical" object anyways?

[@kos-mos1127]

Idealism is nonsense. The objects and characters we create in our mind lack substance. It's no different than a hallucination. An unlimited mind cannot create matter and physical objects as thoughts themselves lack force. Quantum physics prove that matter is inherently dynamical at the fundamental level.

[@RoninTF2011]

Nah, only if that "unlimited" beeing exists. "Doesn't quantum physics already prove that information is at the bottom of every "physical" object anyways?" Does it? citation....and even more so: definition of information, needed

[@kos-mos1127]

@@RoninTF2011 Quantum physics does not prove that information is at the bottom of everything physical.

[@daybertimagni4841]

Interesting discussion. Perhaps you could have highlighted that the mind is able to create the ‘non-physical’ i.e. ideas, plans, dreams etc. (all of which we cannot deny). We can create worlds, feelings and interactions purely in the mind. And, based on that, bring them into a physical reality.

[@MernFern73]

The book analogy as well as the volitional component is powerful!

[@justinb2374]

Actually gained some respect for Alex. He came across as a pompous ignorant bad faith person in his discussions against Huff. Seeing this, he does articulate well these complex topics, and he is seeking. I pray he opens up to God and pray for salvation, and receive enlightenment.

[@DougTown]

The attack on Huff was honestly puzzling for me. Made me wonder whether those two had previous

[@kevinbarbe799]

Maybe it would be interesting to watch what he ´s doing for years and someone could notice that acting in bad faith and Alex OC cannot really be put in the Same sentence ☺️

[@GenerationofReason]

Alex flatlined him. 😂

[@tyronelol]

Atheists believe the Universe came to be by some means without a Creator(God), said belief is religious by definition as it requires faith and relates humanity to an order of existence.

[@MattBronwyn]

Nope, there’s no *requirement* for an atheist to have a belief about the origins of the universe - it perfectly reasonable to say “I don’t know” (because we don’t)

[@swiftlessytvlogs5637]

@@MattBronwyn if you don’t know how can you be an atheist? Surely that leans towards agnostic?

[@thewalruswasjason101]

It’s the biggest leap of faith we could have. To believe everything came from literal nothing is a fairytale belief

[@TurinTuramber]

Please learn what atheist and agnostic means. ​@swiftlessytvlogs5637

[@MattBronwyn]

@ I can be both, most atheists are. And not knowing how the universe started is only at all related to atheism/theism if you’re talking about a creator-deity. There could be a god that came into being within the universe that has always existed. I’m agnostic and atheist about that kind of god too.

[@kapingalililaeticia2754]

My favorite agnostic/atheist (i just love how HONEST and open he is with his "beliefs" and questioning) and one of my favorite Christian youtuber/internet user (for lack of better word). I am a Christian myself and I am quite reserved, and this is the first I want to comment on KZbin so bad. To add my grain of salt to the discussion, I think in this particular segment, it doesn't matter whether or not we can demonstrate the process through which mind "create" matter, we already know it does just with the exemple of the book. Yet there is NO instances where matter "created" a mind so one is way more likely than the other. And with the data that we have for now, we can definitely say matter creating mind IS false.

[@efo0l]

The example of the book is ridiculous because everything in the analogy is material. I already know that you possess a mind authoring KZbin comments, what would be amazing is that you did not also possess a body. There is no credible scientific evidence for disembodied minds (ghosts), nor is there any theoretical basis.

[@DaddyBooneDon]

Awesome! Keep this conversation going. I love the interaction

[@nephesh-y3e]

Former Atheist here. What I find interesting about Alex is that he inadvertently makes the case for God through the ideas he argues. Alex has brought more people to God than to the false song of Atheism.

[@DM-dk7js]

How, exactly? You left that part out.

[@nephesh-y3e]

@@DM-dk7js I’m not going to respond to you because you are a bad faith troll and unwell. You obsessively post on Brandon’s videos, even calling him “A dishonest clown.” Respectfully, go outside and touch grass.

[@gachamansama3703]

@@DM-dk7js They never explain

[@Mr.E1]

@@gachamansama3703 i mean, we cant really expect them to, he believes this on faith alone 🤣

[@joecaljapan]

Most atheists don't argue for the existence of God, they just claim to be higher than Him.

[@regeneratus-l2w]

It is literally impossible for God not to exist. Newton’s law of cause and effect, the law of causation. God is the ultimate uncaused cause of the universe.

[@kos-mos1127]

We know causation applies in the universe but we do not now if causation applies to the universe. Spacetime is the casual structure and fills the Cosmos. We know that spacetime emerges from deeper structures within the Cosmos.

[@zurewmurew7485]

No. There are a lot of assumptions built in there. For example, that the Universe was caused. Whats the argument for that? The second assumption is - if the Universe was caused, then it could have only been caused by God - whats the argument for that? Why would God needs to be the ultimate uncaused cause of the Universe?

[@regeneratus-l2w]

@@zurewmurew7485 “There are a lot of assumptions built in there. For example, that the Universe was caused. Whats the argument for that?” Have you never heard of the law of cause and effect, the law of causality? This is basic science. Almost all astronomers agree on the theory of the Big Bang, that the universe had a beginning. A Big Bang needs a Big Banger. So let me ask you: Do you not agree on the theory of the Big Bang? If not, how did you come to that conclusion?

[@zurewmurew7485]

@@regeneratus-l2w The "law" of cause and effect is characterized within the Universe not ouside of it. And even in the context of the Universe at the quantum level the cause and effect doesn't necessarily hold up. So no its not "basic science" to suggest that something caused the Universe. Yes I agree with the Big-bang theory, but my understanding is that the Big-Bang theory doesn't state that the Universe began to exist 13.8 billions of years ago , but it says that the expansion of our Universe started 13.8 billions of years ago. So it only describes the evolution of an already existing Universe and the expansion of space itself - how from an already existing - infinitely small and hot and dense state it evolved to be this big as it is now. So , sure if you want to call the expansion of the Universe the beggining of the Universe you can, but again thats different from claiming that the infinitely small and hot and dense state popped into existence 13.8Bllions of years ago. Maybe that state was there eternally and it doesn't have a "beggining". More precisely - my understanding is that the Big-bang theory doesn't claim/prove anything about the absolute beggining of the Universe. It leaves the question open whether the Universe started to exist 13.8 billions of years ago, or whether there isn't any absolute beggining to the Universe (maybe it is eternal and doesn't have a "start"). It only makes a claim about the timing of the expansion and not about giving a timing for when the Universe started to exist (if there is a start to it at all). But again, even if I grant idea that the Universe had a beginning , its still unclear whether that beginning was caused or not. And even if we grant that the beggining was caused, thats still far away from establishing that God did it. But for the sake of the argument I can grant that the Universe had a beggining and that beggining had a cause - Go ahead and defend your claim why only can God be the ultimate uncaused cause.

[@zurewmurew7485]

@@regeneratus-l2w I replied, but my replied was removed for some reason. Shortly, the bigbang theory doesn't state anything about the Universe being caused. It only states when the expansion of the Universe started (from an infinitely hot and dense state), but it doesn't say that the Universe popped into existence 13.8 Billions of years ago those two claim are different. It leaves the question open whether the Universe began to exist or not. So there are multiple things there: there is a question whether the Universe began to exist or not, and there is a further question (if it has a begging) then whether that beggining was caused or not. Causation is problematic even on the quantum level let alone if we start to talk about it outside the universe. So no, its not "basic science" to suggest that the Universe was caused and we cant just assume that causation is applicable everywhere. But even if I grant that the Universe had a begging and a cause, from that we are still far away from establishing that God caused it. So, do you have a defense for this: God is the ultimate uncaused cause of the universe.

[@user-ng2du9jl2h]

Not a single evidence about the existence of god in this video, a shame.

[@twosheds1749]

You expected something different??

[@CodyJoe907]

Thank you for creating this channel and allowing these types of conversations to flood my feed! God is working and as a child of God we are the planters of seeds but HE will water them and help them grow! Keep up the amazing work on this channel and know you are encouraging others to be bold followers of God!!!

[@kristophervorpahl3817]

I really enjoyed listening to the 2 of you having a civil conversation. Alex is certainly one of the top conversationalist I have heard at such a young age. I pop in to Daliy to from time to time and enjoy the unafraid position Brandon takes. I am unfortunately not a Christian but am studing as many things I can get my hands on to try and change my beliefs. Excited to see the full video.

[@scillyautomatic]

That "immaterial mind" is the soul.

[@Iwillreply]

@scillyautomatic , I see it as more of an expression rather than a separate thing. What reason is there, currently, to think there's more than the material, ignorance aside?

[@jameshartley7644]

Every debate tunnels down an endless rabbit hole. Only in the human species is there a moral law. The moral law is good and if followed perfectly if it were even possible would lead to heaven on earth. How does an atheist explain the factual existence of a moral law regardless whether one is a believer or not. A moral law debunks the belief and argument of the atheist.

[@Rell-o7f]

They just say there is no moral law it's all subjective. But at the same time they claim its wrong to do certain crimes. Lol atheists can't escape the dilemma

[@Buddha_Vaenamoenen]

@@jameshartley7644 what are you talking about? Animals have moral laws, just not as complex as humans since humans have much more complex minds. Humans don't have any observable universal timeless moral law either, so I don't know which one you are referring to. That's why different ideologies, cultures and religions have been fighting throughout history, many sincere followers of each honestly feeling like their values are better than the others.

[@joshuapizarro3231]

@Buddha_Vaenamoenenthis is the first I’ve heard of moral laws in the animal kingdom. I think the hardest thing for a materialist is explaining how if we come from animals, why do we have a consciousness that experiences love and beauty.

[@jameshartley7644]

@Buddha_Vaenamoenen So you conclude animals have an innate understanding of right and wrong? If you read the 10 commandments you will understand that there is a universal basic moral law across the cultures. No stealing, no murder, no lying, to just name a couple. If you would like to explore the remaining comments and test them. Animals do not have the capacity to lie, steal, or an understanding of murder.

[@jameshartley7644]

Love your enemy falls within God's moral law. Yes, love is of God.

[@joshranowsky8083]

It's incredible how people think free will doesn't exist..

[@SojiFro_0]

People will deny their own existence before bending the knee to Jesus.

[@DM-dk7js]

You have no evidence god exists but believe that.

[@TurinTuramber]

You don't have free will, you have been sold the illusion of free will. Your subconscious already decided everything before your conscious gets informed.

[@Harry-kc8jr]

I don’t believe free will is possible with god. God is all knowing per scripture. He knows everything you will do till you die he even knows if you will go to heaven or well. You can’t do anything different from the future things god know you will do. In the future. If god knows I’ll do X I can’t possibly do Y. He also knew Adam and Eve would betray them.

[@L0yalEcho]

Stop making fun of people for gods sake. We should love them not fight them

[@YourBrotherCarlos]

Broooooo don’t do us like that lol. Release the whole convo!!!! In all seriousness that was a great way to get me hooked to want to see the rest. God bless you and your families brother.

[@g3ng4rb0i3]

Thinking that there's an omnipotent being out there looking after us, the most humans ego can go

[@RoninTF2011]

Sorry, many category errors here, the ONLY "brute fact" we have to accept, existance. Thats all And an arbitrary entity , does not help in any way with that.

[@TboneWTF]

Unless there is empirical evidence no reasonable person should believe in any supernatural claim.

[@RoninTF2011]

@@TboneWTF Yes, that why its baffling that so many accept "god done it" as an explaination about anything

[@DM-dk7js]

@@YuelSea-sw2rpeven YOU know that would be a lie, bud. Why would you even fake being so dishonest as to ignore the fact that god hasn’t been proven to exist? We DO KNOW god has NOT revealed himself to millions.

[@RoninTF2011]

@ Has? Any verifibale method to demonstrate that? What about the other gods that are also "known" to millions of people? What makes your god right, and theirs wrong? ...and again: how do you verify?

[@DM-dk7js]

@@YuelSea-sw2rp pitiful rebuttal. We’re humans. We exist. lol. So stupid. Humans are very evident to exist. Unlike your god.

[@skaterman8180]

It’s pretty obvious at this point that there’s nothing else that we can say to Alex, it will be at work of God now

[@OfficialBTC1]

Nah, he’s only talking to laymen Christian KZbinrs, he’s never had a formal debate with a Christian apologist like John Lennox or William Lane Craig

[@skaterman8180]

@@OfficialBTC1 Hes talked to lane craig, frank Turrek, Francis Collins, Trent Horn. Very well know Theists. John Lennox would be cool though

[@DougTown]

And this isn’t a problem for you? Whether Alex is saved is dependent on whether he receives the “work of God”?

[@skaterman8180]

@ only God can save

[@DougTown]

@@skaterman8180 and at his sole discretion?