Dan Gibson's Latest Discoveries 4 - Origin of the Quran

Al Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith conclude their discussion of the discoveries of Dan Gibson, and how his discoveries are rewriting the history of Islam. Specifically in this episode they discuss the origin and history of the Quran in its earliest versions, along with the biography of Muhammad and the Haddith.
Dan Gibson, historian and author, has been studying the earliest evidence of the origins of islam. Al Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith explore the orgin of the name of Allah. Did the name originate with the god Dushara and his wife Al-Lat?
Muslims are taught that Mecca is the historical home of Muhammad and Islam began from there. Evidence, however, points to another origin, the ancient city of Petra.
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[@b.kodzoofori1491]

Phenomenal! Thanks both of you for digging out and compiling such materials! No doubt, many don't want any discussions at all on the subject.Just believe!

[@libaloumam5692]

As a ex muslim i feel like God has given me another chance in this life

[@krishna-dasamalla-ari-kris3034]

Jay Sri Raam! Salaam Alaikum! Praise be to Lord! Shalom alehem! Hare Krishna!

[@deepreflections1853]

God continue to bless you all for these exposé. May the truth of God prevail over the lies of satan in Jesus name.

[@mimalains5643]

Ameeeeeeeeeen

[@christianfrommuslim]

Great work Dan! Muslims need to know that the Quran has faced many revisions. A fun way to learn about the changes in the Quran is with Terry Kelhawk's book "THE TOPKAPI SECRET." It is an adventure novel that chases across the world while revealing the changes - and then documents the changes in a reference section. Love it!

[@foundthetruth2003]

Absolutely fascinating, thank you so much.

[@dannyhughes4889]

This episode is the best in that Jay outlines his concept of 'where it all probably came from'. He put so much in presenting his material that it was hard to keep up but one of the advantages of a recording is that one can pause it and go back for a 'second look'.

[@m005kennedy]

I agree. You need these summaries. Some of his videos on specific issues are sometimes hard to follow for people like me that doesn’t have the huge background in Arabic studies.

[@OperaRotas-ik2xz]

God bless all of us 🙏 God bless Doctor Jay Smith and AL Fadi 🙏 🙏 🙏

[@anna8576]

Thanks a lot for this video!

[@ShepherdsHook]

Am writing to friends and family in academia. Islamic morass is a gold mine of research for doctrinal thesis

[@seshuaiyar5047]

But be careful,don't be another Rusdhi,may not get in protection,,!

[@andrewtham8093]

Even outside of apologetic work to muslims, these discoveries are important to our understanding of the historical development of Islam. Historical figures like Ilyas Ibn Kabisa and other information presented here should be part of any world and middle eastern history curriculum in schools.

[@normangraham1236]

Thanks for all your hard work 👍

[@111mahaadam]

U r saying thanx to him for soo much telling lie.

[@111mahaadam]

Hard work on lies

[@normangraham1236]

Thank you for all your hard work

[@albusai]

@@muezamueza2797 Islam is based on. The Quran a very small incomplete book full of plagiarism from fake sources as Talmud Gnosticism and other Jewish mysticism even Zoroastrian

[@Navron2K11]

do you have this information, in regards to the linage of persons & dates mentioned in this video in a printed form. Those of us that what to study this information would greatly appreciate it. Cheers Nav

[@rosariodcosta3249]

Great sharing by our great scholars God bless and protect you

[@eagleeye7251]

The rot from inside has already started. Now let's wait and watch.

[@bravo5756]

👍This should be known .. people deserve this Origin

[@jsamuel1035]

Thank you for helping to enlighten.

[@111mahaadam]

To enlighten lie...lolzxxx

[@normangraham1236]

Yes thank you Dr Jay for your hard work

[@danielmedeiros6940]

@Maha Adam why don't you do your own research in a fairly ways, then find the truth in your own and if your reach is more reliable then slap that to our face,

[@FreeRadical7118]

I'm loving all this information, and I hope that Muslims will feel challenged, or curious enough to watch all these efforts, take notes, and ponder what is being revealed about their belief system. It would be wonderful if they could all be set free from the shackles of Islam.

[@dennisveatch8155]

What I find most hilarious is their cry baby attitude. They demote my Savior to nothing more than a prophet, say my books are corrupted but only where it disagrees with their fake god and prophet. I could go on but suffice it to say to them; tough nuts. If you don't like it then observe surah 6:108, stop insulting my God and Savior. Better yet, renounce your fake god and accept Jesus as your Savior and repent.

[@flieswithbats7034]

@@dennisveatch8155 main issue is the whole thing is made by the devil because thier book states christ didnt die on cross. period. Instead it puts judas on the cross. Utter blasphemy. Islam is a bunch of blasphemous dudes in white outfits jumping up and down shouting blasphemy day and night , acting holy.

[@flieswithbats7034]

The only Angels which appear and give revelations after Christ conqured Hades were not the sort of Angels you wanty to listen to at all. Henceforth the teaching on all such angels prophecies and dreams is for them to be ignored, those who do not ignore them become the play thing of demons like mohamed became.

[@dennisveatch8155]

@@mrbrowntvdefendingislam3435 spamalot?

[@dennisveatch8155]

@@mrbrowntvdefendingislam3435 Haven't watch your link. However, let's pretend you and your link are correct just for arguments sake. Where then should I according to you put my faith?

[@anjaliroymukherji1086]

under the digital informative time very broken pieces of puzzle placed in different part of middle east is coming as one piece and solving the zigs of puzzle, that will vanquish Islam from this universe. God is great. Amen

[@musayusuf2284]

Yeah! A good strategy to stop evangelists from spending LARGE amounts of donations on combating Islamic encroachment.

[@williamgarayua5878]

Dear@@musayusuf2284 : The Evangelists of the Armies of JIHAD love to praise and practice DECEPTION, because they believe that it reduces resistance, but... We already know their old trick, but... it is weird that they Trust more on DECEPTION than in the handicapped almighty that they pretend to "defend" by using VIOLENCE, so they speak and trains like a military force, but still call it "religion" to manipulate the naive ... 🤫 What a camaleon used as a Trojan Horse: The Armies of JIHAD! 💰🐪🤺 wgt

[@seshuaiyar5047]

Just like christAnity is trying to destroy Hinduism, even through the UN, why am I not surprised that they are trying to destroy Islam!

[@ramnz6851]

Thanks, brothers for this informative presentation. I have a question concerning the earliest copy we have today for Iben Ishaq and Sahih Bokhari. We heard these books were compiled in 8 and 9 centuries but does the copy we have today come from back from 8-9 century?

[@lesepleowhyte8933]

more like 9th and 10th centuries!

[@anonamos3287]

We have????? You don't have any copy, the Qur'an is protected from those who don't respect it ever getting near the truth of it's message

[@anonamos3287]

@Thomas Thomas Does that make it wrong ? Whats your point ?

[@airacobra8498]

@Thomas Thomas Proove it, Christianity doesn't make sense, the bible doesn't make sense, yet the Quaran has 100000x more logic then the logic your parents tried to put in your tiny brain,

[@airacobra8498]

@Thomas Thomas I am a fool? Because I proved you wrong right? I didn't have to say anything because you know the Bible is wrong.

[@gummiebears9272]

eye opener!

[@ericlima2832]

Thank you 🙏

[@HarshGupta-rs4pl]

Request you a comparative narrative from 620 and 820 AD if you can please discuss it

[@stingk5295]

Very Revealing!

[@doctrineapologetics]

Keep up the good work brothers Al Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith. God bless you all and God bless your ministries.

[@edyp21]

Enlightening information, May God bless you both

[@aldredtawasil9339]

according to Islamic tradition, prophet Muhammad was confronted by the archangel Gabriel while in a cave of mount Hira,outside mecca and command to recite what became the earliest revealed word of the holy Quran...

[@gerardmoloney433]

Just goes to prove that people are prepared to believe lies above truth. Maranatha.

[@gedat5538]

Lies don't stand alone! When one falls, all the rest fall one by one! So it is with Mohammedanism. No amount of reinterpretation will help! May truth triumph.

[@krishna-dasamalla-ari-kris3034]

Jay Sri Raam! Salaam Alaikum! Praise be to Lord! Shalom alehem! Hare Krishna!

[@Heshem_Joel]

Pressing the panic button as the 21st Century's fastest growing religion don't appear to be contracting.

[@shareefisaacs8328]

God told Abraham that He would establish his covenant through Isaac, and when Abraham inquired as to Ishmael's role, God answered that Ishmael has been blessed and that he "will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; , and I will make him a great nation." (Genesis 17)....

[@HarpazoReady2022]

Yes, there is only one God and he is The God of Abraham in the Bible. Written 2,000 years *before the Quran,* in Genesis 16 & 17, Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac. God made an everlasting covenant promise with Isaac & his descendants for the land of Canaan (Israel). Although God said he would also bless Ishmael by his offspring producing 12-kings (Gen 17:20) but Ishmael was not promised the land. This solves the problem of the fighting over there between Muslims & Jews over the land of Israel & the Temple Mount. It belongs to the Jews through Isaac. Genesis 16:12 says Ishmael will be a wild man & his hand will be against every man. He mocked his half brother, Isaac, causing problems. So Abraham cast Ishmael & his mother, Hagar out. (Genesis 21:10) The false god of Islam is a pagan moon god started by Ishmael in the Arab nations. This is why the crescent moon is on the Islamic flag. It’s why their religious observance of Ramadan begins & ends with the crescent moon. It’s from their early origins of moon worship through Ishmael because he rebelled against the God of his father Abraham. For the God of Abraham so loved the world, he sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins (John 3:16) because the wages of sin is death. This gift is free to anyone that believes in Christ. Read John 14 in the Bible: believe in Christ, repent & you will be saved from Hell. The Quran is very clear that their god, Allah, had no son. So he certainly did not die for you. He requires the opposite: *you die for him.* You can read it in chapter 17 verse 111, chapter 23 verse 91 and chapter 112 verses 3 & 4. Christianity & Islam are NOT the same God. There is only one creator and one mediator, Jesus Christ. 1 Timothy 2:5. God Bless✝️ #KnowTheTruth Jesus: I am the way, the truth & the life.

[@thenewapproach1858]

@@HarpazoReady2022 You give long explanations and yet you cut off the verses half way that doesn't suit your view. I can answer you with one verse not a whole book. Genesis 17:20 Do you think God just blesses anyone and make them GREAT NATIONS. You think God will make a pagan great nation no, no, God gave you ISLAM as foretold in this verse. Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. Twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation....

[@HarpazoReady2022]

@@thenewapproach1858 *For a fuller & complete understanding of the above brief synopsis, I highly recommend you Google the entire chapter(s) & verses of what’s sited above for a complete study of the Word. Thank you. Have a great day✝️

[@stevenjohnson-yx1fl]

Yes Babylon was a great nation wasn't it

[@andrewoliver3725]

Look I'm a non-believer and I think this is a fascinating topic, but how do you explain the Birmingham Quran manuscript? It is a very early text and is very close to the modern version.

[@bartv8207]

Islamic ads. They are watching 👍

[@anonamos3287]

Wrong again the video producers are trying to target muslims and Islamic people by using Islamic references to promote their lies

[@mals4400]

@@anonamos3287 and what lies would they be??

[@mals4400]

​@@anonamos3287 And they loved the dark.... because their deeds were evil. They don't want to know the truth...(in case you are wondering...muslims..they prefer to just believe what they are told rather than search for the truth.

[@anonamos3287]

@@mals4400 That the Torah has not been corrupted, that Issac was the first son, not Ismael, go read the story in your own bible the contradiction is still there clearly showing it was changed. That you say you follow Y'esua, but you actually follow the teachings of Paul. That you claim to be true Christians but you do and say things spreading hearsay, when you were not there to know what the truth was, it's one thing to believe something is true, but to spread something you are not a witness to is a huge sin and a clear evil action. I'm happy to explain this fully if you are ignorant about what hearsay is.

[@anonamos3287]

@@mals4400 To the contrary that's what you Christians are doing, you don't question the myths you have been feed to find the truth. When your books clearly explain that Your Creator is not a man that he would lie. You ignore this to patch other pieces of ambiguous text together to cinevuo with the same pagan concepts that were followed in the past like Babel and Baal worship, you ignorant hypocrItes!

[@gedgetjuaton6842]

God bless you both..

[@hans471]

How is the topic of discussion related to Dan Gibson? I dont think he would question the traditional narrative about the origin of the quran (neither of the sira). I think the title is misleading?

[@hans471]

Thank you for the work btw 😉

[@anonamos3287]

Really you don't know Dan Gibson very well then he is a devote Christian evangelists, not a historian at all a wolf in sheep's clothing, go find his Christian Christmas video full of historical non facts that he doesn't bother to question as he does Islamic history, you can just accept everything he says there like little child would!!!! Go watch the video and see for yourself the true dan gibson doctrine

[@hans471]

@@anonamos3287 I merely pointed out that the theories proposed in this video are not from Dan Gibson. I find Dan Gibsons qibla/Petra theory convincing in terms of the arguments, I do not agree with everything he says...

[@user-yz1dl3eu8l]

9:00 Then Jay a "non prophet, non Meccan, non Muslim guy" wrote the Quran? "Muhammad" has not existed there is no need to replace him by anyone. Arabs *believed* he has. It's a belief, nothing else.

[@HarpazoReady2022]

Yes, there is only one God and he is The God of Abraham in the Bible. Written 2,000 years *before the Quran,* in Genesis 16 & 17, Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac. God made an everlasting covenant promise with Isaac & his descendants for the land of Canaan (Israel). Although God said he would also bless Ishmael by his offspring producing 12-kings (Gen 17:20) but Ishmael was not promised the land. This solves the problem of the fighting over there between Muslims & Jews over the land of Israel & the Temple Mount. It belongs to the Jews through Isaac. Genesis 16:12 says Ishmael will be a wild man & his hand will be against every man. He mocked his half brother, Isaac, causing problems. So Abraham cast Ishmael & his mother, Hagar out. (Genesis 21:10) The false god of Islam is a pagan moon god started by Ishmael in the Arab nations. This is why the crescent moon is on the Islamic flag. It’s why their religious observance of Ramadan begins & ends with the crescent moon. It’s from their early origins of moon worship through Ishmael because he rebelled against the God of his father Abraham. For the God of Abraham so loved the world, he sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins (John 3:16) because the wages of sin is death. This gift is free to anyone that believes in Christ. Read John 14 in the Bible: believe in Christ, repent & you will be saved from Hell. The Quran is very clear that their god, Allah, had no son. So he certainly did not die for you. He requires the opposite: *you die for him.* You can read it in chapter 17 verse 111, chapter 23 verse 91 and chapter 112 verses 3 & 4. Christianity & Islam are NOT the same God. There is only one creator and one mediator, Jesus Christ. 1 Timothy 2:5. God Bless✝️ #KnowTheTruth Jesus: I am the way, the truth & the life.

[@rebeccasamuel1987]

Amazing discoveries. Thanks guys. ❤️

[@innovati]

May I one day make the kind of impact in my career like Dan Gibson has made in his!

[@SabeerAbdulla]

Pablo Escobar had a similar impact and much bigger too 😂

[@hans471]

@@SabeerAbdulla or Mohammed, responsible for the worst ideology in the world and the new main reason why the middle earth is still stuck in the middle ages mentally 😉

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@@hans471 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the very fact that Muslims had the largest empire in the world within a hundred years of the advent of Islam shows there's nothing wrong with the ideology. Ironically enough, Wood made the point that lots of Muslims are leaving Islam in the middle East. And that's precisely why it's in such a bad shape. Not to mention the colonialism by the West.

[@hans471]

@@SabeerAbdulla then why don't you worship the mongolian djingis khan? His empire was even bigger...

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@@hans471 😂😂😂😂 not very good at reading comprehension are you? It wasn't the man but the ideology you asked about. And guess what, the Mongols converted to Islam _after_ defeating them at Baghdad. The Islamic empire outlasted the Mongols long after Genghis too. And that's what you call the power of the right ideology.

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

Keep doing videos.

[@ConservativeArabNet]

The chain of narrations were listed during 9th century to make them authativrv

[@maximhollandnederlandthene7640]

Some people even believe earth is flat ......

[@abrahammathew6174]

Thank You

[@lavindragaikwad8371]

Really awesome 👌👌👌👌👌

[@emilioba6770]

The best thing Muslim scholars is to re stablish their history and identity thru new found evidence from archeologist, and to those persons who studied deeply the history step by step, thru time element, the environment, the people,, etc that specifically pinpoint to the originality ,,, not just because the person or persons were such a very exraordinary special person at that time,, may be it's better to depend to our time which have a more advanced and sophisticated technology,,,,

[@raindacer]

Is there any summary or easy to digest diagram on this topic?

[@ismailibrahim6810]

Beliefs mean you do not know. You stop believing when you know. Refers to ALL BELIEFs.

[@thetruthisbetter1339]

You should make a documentary about your findings.

[@DeadlycheesePeople]

That’s what they’re doing. It’s just in a more 21st century format. Documentaries are holdovers from the days of extremely limited video storage capability and a lack of an ability to easily share information with the entirety of the human race at once.

[@thetruthisbetter1339]

@@DeadlycheesePeople okay thanks

[@skellingtonmeteoryballoon]

A documentary would be awesome ❤️

[@SarikaAli-cw9xf]

I am a proud Muslim. I am a truth seeker, too. So, if some people hid the real Islam, I want it to be uncovered. Prophet Muhammad would love to see the truth being uncovered

[@hdl135605]

It depends if you can accept the truth based on facts, or "Islamic Truth," which is something else.

[@jesusislove1272]

Jesus said, he is the truth,are you still looking for the truth??

[@ufh2101]

By the way, Fadi is not Saudi. He’s clearly Jordanian.

[@chrissweeney7782]

How so? Another Arab claimed he was Lebanese.

[@rambsiya]

Doesnt matter where he is from, the fact is he left islam.because he used his brain.

[@ncroc]

Jay keeps saying 2019? Is this an old video?

[@hassanhenry5112]

Hahaha

[@CIRAInternational]

Does it really matter?

[@ncroc]

@@CIRAInternational He mentioned various "new material" that hasn't been public yet. If it's an old video then maybe we can access those "new material" now.

[@phillipoleary2532]

CIRA International, it's only a question.

[@mandalion6709]

It’s December 2019

[@mhdnasir]

I LIKE DR. JAY SMITH BLACK LEATHER JACKET, IF DONT MIND WHERE I CAN FIND AND BUY FROM?

[@kamarajohnisaac3818]

Wonderful message God is great

[@krishna-dasamalla-ari-kris3034]

Jay Sri Raam! Salaam Alaikum! Praise be to Lord! Shalom alehem! Hare Krishna!

[@albusai]

@@krishna-dasamalla-ari-kris3034 krisnah blue demon

[@Saral_Lekhi]

It's very strange. If Islam was not violent no one would care for it at all. It is boring as hell except for violence of every kind imaginable is described. Its a manual for being evil and how to do it safely!

[@nejmalhussain8134]

Even if mohammeds ancestors were from petra it doesn't means that he was born and brought up in petra there are a lot of historical evidences about his presence in mecca and madeena

[@CulinarySpy]

Dear Nejmal, can you please help me understand what pieces of historical evidence exist that support his presence in Mecca in Saudi Arabia?

[@chrissweeney7782]

I'm all ears too.

[@anna8576]

Mohammad did die of poisoning according to his own word in sahih bukhari, volume 5, book 59, hadith 713, " narrated aisha:"the prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, 'o Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at khaibar, and now, I feel as my aorta is being cut from poison "

[@user-ju7py6bi9v]

And?

[@dudeduderinoduderino9689]

Dr King reminds me of the entitled academic sitting on his throne and no one ever questions his expertise and knowledge. Along comes a commoner and de-thrones him by his lack due diligence. Keep the good work up gentlemen. 👍

[@othmanahmad7331]

I am thinking how these persons will face Allah in the day of judgement if they are not repenting. They will face horrible fate,horrible punishment i hellfire forever unless they repent before died.

[@bittertruths4719]

The very same cave (Hira Cave) through which Mohammed received revelation is the opening of the bottomless pit(hell). Allah himself is in the hellfire for ever. Hira Cave, Bermuda Triangle and Dragon Triangle are around the globe within 20-25 deg. N parallel (latitude) and the center points are equally distanced too. If there is anyone who seek truth in Islam, let them research the Hira Cave. They should remove the stones piled over the cave opening. It will reveal what is the cave. It will reveal who is the spirit spoke to Mohammed. Mohammed was in fact fooled by Allah's angel called Azazel who is imprisoned in the same pit together with him. You are all praying looking towards Mecca and your final destiny is together with him (Allah) in the hellfire. Think about yourself how you will face the true ALMIGHTY GOD, THE CREATOR in the day of judgement.

[@melmkoed4828]

Why is it that you (and many many others in your cult) love sadistic punishment and fire so much? Have you been raised with it? Disgusting.

[@chrissweeney7782]

I guess you can't refute their arguments.

[@jesusislove1272]

Jesus is the just judge.who do you think can condamne the Christians???

[@Abdullah-ri7ez]

You worship someone who worships Allah

[@saurabh9417]

Ur ALLAH 🌙 the moon God worships ✝️𝒀𝒆𝒔𝒉𝒖𝒂 𝑴𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒉 ✨

[@Abdullah-ri7ez]

@@saurabh9417 moon god? Rather the all mighty above the majestic lord who is above his creation praise be to he who sent the best of prophets to fulfill his message and woe to those who changed the ways of the messengers and turned them into to things they weren’t

[@shajali5481]

@@saurabh9417 what do christian arabs call God again 🙄.... what do arab Jews call God again. Where did Jesus came to send his message ...... Arabia (Palestine). What did Jesus say on the cross : Allahi allahi lamasaraktani : oh God oh God why hast thau forsken me. Honestly use you brain 🧠 how can you worship a man. Ask God humbly without ascribing partners with him ..... and he will guide you.

[@Abdul-Amburadul]

Qutham Ibn Abd Al Lat?

[@righttime3346]

Sayidnaa Ali wasn't an adopted son of Rasul ALLAH. He was the cousin and son in-law. This means you are misinforming the public. Shame

[@infomix77]

true...the man talking is a liar...

[@mals4400]

​ Really!! well inform us the truth and you independent sources please...not the standard muslim line

[@mals4400]

​@@infomix77 Really!! well inform us the truth and you independent sources please...not the standard muslim line. And they loved the dark.... because their deeds were evil. They don't want to know the truth...(in case you are wondering...muslims..they prefer to just believe what they are told rather than search for the truth.

[@omaryousaf3635]

it's an innocent mistake, no big deal whether ali is a son in law or adopted son, in fact ali was raised up in prophet MD's house so he is some how could be considered as an adopted son of Prophet MD and Allah knows better

[@righttime3346]

@@omaryousaf3635 if am older than my uncle and raised him, does that makes him my adopted son or he's still my uncle?

[@isusjebogisaija96-75]

LORD JESUS IS ETERNAL And ALMIGHTY GOD ❤️ ADONAI ❤️ in Flesh (Isaiah 9 : 6-7) and (Micah 5 : 2) ! LORD JESUS IS ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN 🙏 (Isaiah 53) ! You must be Born Again with Holy Spirit 🤗 .

[@pratimaverma4422]

@@mrbrowntvdefendingislam3435 yeah it is true he himself confessed that he is the bright morning star......

[@franklinpanakkal97]

Very well you know Christ better than Christian.

[@franklinpanakkal97]

@@pratimaverma4422 you know Christ better it seems

[@MindRoasterMir]

@3:15 Ali r.a was killed by Muavia r.a at the battle of siffeen. Please provide me the reference for that. Thanks

[@entertainment111d]

No,he wasn't killed by mawiya but by ibn muljim when he was praying ibn muljim attacked him with the knife and got martydom in next 2 or 3 days

[@rabukkayeshua2479]

Thank you Al Fadhi... Keep up the good work although KZbin alogarithm is more strict ☝🥴👍🎖

[@TreiHutchinson]

Once he said the Black Stone ..I already knew he knows nuts.. Hahaha..Ali is NOT the adopted son of the prophet Muhammad ﷺ..and that Arab guy just kept quiet..

[@MrMazin2]

What I would like to ask our two brothers is to clarify my confusion. If Mohammed was man-made, how does six hadiths collectors and several Siras written spanning over many years and by many different people doesn’t look possible to be “created” stories to support the man-made Mohammed.

[@CIRAInternational]

It is not that difficult to invent hadith... in fact, Bukhari claimed to have found 660,000 hadith, yet he only accepted 7,000 as authentic due to his suspicion of fraud and fabrication of the rest!

[@MrMazin2]

@@CIRAInternational thank you kindly for your response. But there are five others, plus sira. How is it possible to coordinate all of them to tell one story of the man-made Mohammed? I am an ex Muslim and I left Islam because of the horrible life of Mohammed as depicted in the various hadiths and sira, plus of course the violence in the Quran.

[@menblack7980]

@@MrMazin2 oh 'voilence in the Quran' and you are an ex-muslim can you please send me the voilent verses from the Qur'an

[@Qthetar]

@@MrMazin2 let’s entertain you, make me leave islam show me the violence in Quran 😂

[@Qthetar]

@@CIRAInternational you idiots if Muhammad is man made how the hell did all of Arabia tribes united and then defeated Persians and Romans.

[@kizzakasule4929]

Gibson's discoveries are good and we need them to understand the origin of gods we do worship ignorantly

[@kizzakasule4929]

Because it's alleged that man ate the fruit of knowledge to distinguish between good and evil therefore its necessary for man to understand

[@rajathmayurkh7458]

About 30,000 Americans, 5000 British are accepting Islam. Europeans for Islam....

[@saurabh9417]

✨ Hallelujah ✝️🙏🏻

[@krishna-dasamalla-ari-kris3034]

Jay Sri Raam! Salaam Alaikum! Praise be to Lord! Shalom alehem! Hare Krishna!

[@liberator275]

when is this going mainstream?

[@chosenbygodnotbyman5534]

At 6:22 Mark a man named what? Please?

[@indonesiakita2545]

Abdul Maliq. A leader of Arabic from Petra Jordania, who introduced Muhammad as prophet, written in coins..create Arabic messianic religion.

[@jankaretjervag73]

According to Google Maps, the distance between Mecca and Medina is about 285 miles (450 km). The distance between Mecca and Petra is approx. 790 miles (1270 km). According to the "standard narrative", there was a lot of travel and communication in the first years after the Hijra, although the distance between the cities was quite long. The distance between Mecca and Petra is almost three times longer. If Mecca is the "wrong" place, might Medina also be the "wrong" place?

[@ehsankabirirahani9733]

Considering the average speed of camels 12 mph and only 12 hours travel per day. it takes 6 days to travel from petra to Medina. It not that long trip for that era.

[@jojomomster3772]

2019? Dr Jay?

[@pfanderfilms]

Yes, this was recorded last year, and is only now being uploaded. Thus, some of the material we are talking about here is somewhat dated.

[@jojomomster3772]

@@pfanderfilms ok thanks!

[@bebopperbott1517]

Still in shock. thank you .it will take a while for this too sink in ..ok i b ok took .1 sec too think that over i have too pray for them me lord saids so,thank you lord

[@John-qo6fs]

exactly I also suspected and will patiently wait for new book. Muslims gets unreasonable offended to even talk and discuss with them.

[@mohammadsirajullah3498]

Why we do not have a single Hadith narrated by Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Ali also Khadija ?

[@jukkamantyvaara9106]

You sould also open the "Sirat Rasul Allah" because there is lots of important information according to the islam and Muhammed.

[@wahlao81]

For bukhari to go thru 600, 000 sayings, he would have to go thru on average 102 per day assuming that he worked everyday without rest for 16 years. This should tell you those figures were exaggerated or made up to make it seem like his work was credible.

[@transfergaming3307]

wahlao81 that's the beauty of Islamic scholars. One scholar spent 40 years of his life writing books and reading about Islam, then after he was done he had a lot of letters from over the years which he didn't open while he was writing stuff and learning. When he opened it he realized that his family has passed and many stuff happened. My teachers teacher studied for 12 years day and night and now he's an sheikh ul Islam

[@wahlao81]

@@transfergaming3307 i agree that being hardworking and perseverance are good ethics and we should emulate those who display good ethics. but my point is, it is impossible for a person to collect 104 hadiths a day and study all of them to check whether they are reliable or not. Dishonesty and exaggeration are not a good ethics

[@transfergaming3307]

@@wahlao81 but he wasnt lying, his disciples wrote books on this. not just on imam bukhari but many many scholars of islam. if you read the books you will realize that. his students are also famous some of them include 1. Muslim bin Hajjaj (famously known as Imam Muslim) 2. Abu Isa Mohammad Al-Tirmidhi (famously known as Imam Al-Tirmidhi) 3. Abu Abd-ur-Raḥman Aḥmad ibn Shuaib Al-Nasai (famously known as Imam Al-Nasai)

[@wahlao81]

@@transfergaming3307 they became his disciples after the hadiths were compiled....

[@dovygoodguy1296]

Where is the proof that Bukhari had 600,000? I don't believe it for a minute. It's just a myth.

[@joseabraham1903]

Appreciate your hard work brother

[@ProtagonistPoV]

Who is abdul Malik? please share the story of that Abdul Malik.. thanks

[@davidansari2508]

Is there any one who memorize the quran between 632- 810 in the history ? because Muslim says there was 100 s that called hafiz from the time of MOHammed

[@transfergaming3307]

yes, back then muslims memorize them because they had no way to write properly. not just muslims but the arabs i believe didnt have paper so they relied upon their memory which was very very strong

[@abdulrahimmohdsharif5251]

(أَفَلَا یَتَدَبَّرُونَ ٱلۡقُرۡءَانَۚ وَلَوۡ كَانَ مِنۡ عِندِ غَیۡرِ ٱللَّهِ لَوَجَدُوا۟ فِیهِ ٱخۡتِلَـٰفًا كَثِیرًا) [Surah An-Nisa' 4:82] Most trust The Creator/Originator of the Universe followed The Prophet/Messenger .. NOT the other way around.

[@henktmmr]

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[@CIRAInternational]

يا غبي... هل تدبرت هذه الاية؟ انها تقول "اختلافاً كثيراً" مما يعني ان فيه اختلافاً! استخدم عقلك وفكر...

[@user-vo9nx3fz5k]

@@CIRAInternational لو كان من عند "غير الله" لوجدوا فيه "اختلافا كثيرا" تحتاج فهم بسيط،لا تحتاج فلسفة 🤣 جئتم حتى سنة 2020 من وراء كل هؤلاء الأنبياء والتابعين بإختلاف أجناسهم ولغاتهم،وكتبهم ،لتكذبو على الله ﷻو تكدبو العلماء و الحجج العلمية الثابتة وتقولو ما قال فلان لفلان كذب، وما قال فلانكم على فلان صحيح .أما أنا فلان أقول لفلانكم أو فلالينكم،لقد تأخرتم كثيرا،وستزيدون في تأخركم لأن ما قاله الخالق الحق واقع،تبين في جميع المجالات،والعلوم،والجغرافياوالفلك بالبراهين والحجج أتنكرون كيف صوركم في الأركان كيف يشاء،ابحث عن أدق وصف اخلق البشر،في أي كتاب كتب أدق وصف،قبل حتى أن تصنع الأدوية والمعدات الطبية من الأجهزة المتطورة،و اسئل متى تم اكتشاف مراحل الولادة أتنكرون مراحل تكون الكون وما جاء به القرآن عن توسع الكون ،أصعد أحد إلى الكون في ذلك الزمان،لا لكن القرآن ذكرها في آية من آياته " والسماء بنيناها وإن لموسعون" ,وفي آية أخرى قال الله -تبارك وتعالى- في سورة الأنبياء: {أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كانتا رتقًا ففتقناهما ۖ وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ ۖ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ}[٢]، أيضا في سورة الروم ،نبوءة محمد ﷺ في أن الروم غلبت في أدنى الأرض،وأنهم سيغلبون بعد ذلك ببضع سنين ،وقد تحقق ما أنبأ به الرسول ﷺ،إبحث عن المعركة التي دارت بين الروم والفرس أقوى الإمبراطريات ديالك الزمان،وأيضا عن أدنى نقطة في الأرض. أتنكرون قوله تعالى: في سورة الرحمان :" مرج البحرين يلتقيان بينهما برزخ لا يبغيان"القول بقوله تعالى في سورة فاطر: {وَمَا يَسْتَوِي الْبَحْرَانِ هَذَا عَذْبٌ فُرَاتٌ سَائِغٌ شَرَابُهُ وَهَذَا مِلْحٌ أُجَاجٌ " و الجبال أوتادا " هل كان الناس على علم بأن ما تحت الجبل أكثر طولا من ما هو ظاهر لنا قال سبحانه وتعالى: يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ ضُرِبَ مَثَلٌ فَاسْتَمِعُوا لَه إن الذين تدعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ لَن يَخْلُقُوا ذُبَابًا وَلَوِ اجْتَمَعُوا لَهُ وَإِن يَسْلُبْهُمُ الذُّبَابُ شَيْئًا لَّا يَسْتَنقِذُوهُ مِنْهُ ۚ ضَعُفَ الطَّالِبُ وَالْمَطْلُوبُ* مَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَقَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ} وأخيرا قد أنبأنا رسول الله ﷺ أنه سيأتي هدا الزمان الذى يقول الإنسان خبرا فينتشر في نفس الوقت فى كل مكان ،فهل كان أحد غيره قال ما قال ،لا ،لإنه لم يتخيل أحد كيف يعقل أن يقول شخص كدبة فتنتشر في لحظتها تلك،إلا من أحاطه الخالق سبحانه وتعالى من علم .[سورة الروم: الآيات 48- 49-50]. {اللَّهُ الَّذي يُرْسلُ الرّياحَ فَتُثيرُ سَحابًا فَيَبْسُطُهُ في السَّماء كَيْفَ يَشاءُ وَيَجْعَلُهُ كسَفًا فَتَرَى الْوَدْقَ يَخْرُجُ منْ خلاله فَإذا أَصابَ به مَنْ يَشاءُ منْ عباده إذا هُمْ يَسْتَبْشرُونَ (48) وَإنْ كانُوا منْ قَبْل أَنْ يُنَزَّلَ عَلَيْهمْ منْ قَبْله لَمُبْلسينَ (49)فَانْظُرْ إلى آثار رَحْمَت اللَّه كَيْفَ يُحْي الْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ مَوْتها إنَّ ذلكَ لَمُحْي الْمَوْتى وَهُوَ عَلى كُلّ شَيْءٍ قَديرٌ (50) }.

[@BlackDidThis]

I am trying hard to focus mostly on the evidence in hand for the last few episodes... but unlike listening to Al Fadi's words or just about anything from Dan Gibson's: It has per each video of especially this series: become increasingly hard to focus away from the "ecstatic" nature of Dr. Jay onto how he is taking so much of the findings as personal agenda. I had so enjoyed following up on your "Qibla Dilemma" series but the late Dr. Jay of the "Daniel Gibson's Latest Discoveries" series has literally turned into watching another format of Dr. King he himself seems to not enjoy much... And curiosity wrapped around my respect to Mr. Dan's findings was recently the only thing that has gotten me this so far whilst watching the transformation of Dr. Jay into what he is now. Possibly it is my personal view only and there must be no one else disturbed enough by this. But I sincerely hope in the further videos he has chosen to be a lot less hot headed than he has developed to be presenting through his built up confidence through Mr. Gibson's findings (Especially since he has an important amount of knowledge on the area). None the less (Since I am here only for Mr. Gibson only and the calm/civil pace you have had chosen to always present) I doubt I shall continue watching your series any further to get frustrated by hearing throughout at least half (Mostly two thirds) of your videos of him repeating the same things with an ever growing childish and oddly patronizing joy. I guess there is something the doctorate does to people that study in this area and unless it becomes a personal mission and them a missionary: most fail to continue... rendering themselves taking much of heir findings rather personal. I wish you all the best of luck and hope that you will always present the quality content that has had me go through tens of your videos in a single day. Please do not take this comment as an insult but rather a criticism of your respectable (I am not being sarcastic) guest May piece be with you...

[@m005kennedy]

So what you are saying is you want to discount what he says because he had enthusiasm saying it? If you use that as a standard you need to leave Islam because they also seem enthusiastic about what they say. I think the facts are well laid out and seem extremely sensible to me. What do you mean by hothead? I haven’t seen him display anything past what I see Muslims express in their emotional videos on the internet. The direction of the Mosque’s orientation can be checked by anyone doing a little work on it. At one point the point to Petra and later to Mecca. They have presented very compelling evidence that Mecca is not an ancient city and no records. anywhere exist of it before the seventh century. Also the variations in the Quran are now well documented. In as late as 1924 Egypt destroyed Qurans from schools because they did not match the ones in the parents how. The sunk all these corrupted Qurans in the Nile River to destroy them. This is absolute proof that the Quran can and has been altered. There would have been no need to destroy Qurans that were exactly the same. Many versions of the Quran are in used today and it isn’t just because of dialects. I realize Muslims find this very disturbing. They have been taught sometimes else all their lives. But even a top Muslim scholar has admitted that “there are holes in the narrative “ about preservation. Have you spent time listening to Dr Dan Brubaker’s videos? If the emotionalism of Dr Smith turns you off you won’t find that on Brubaker’s channel. You will find a calm well done scholarly approach to the variations found in early Qurans that are supposedly unable to vary.

[@brendantannam499]

I think you're right about Dr. Smith. He is on a mission that is very personal to him. I think he sees the invalidation of Islam as a greater validation of Christianity. For me, both beliefs are fabrications based on a germ of truth. That truth is probably that there was a man who said he was a Messiah and another man who said he was a Messenger.

[@albusai]

@@brendantannam499 bible has to many fulfilled prophecies to be man made

[@stevejeffries1603]

Good man keep up the good work

[@babymm1664]

Dear continue ur effort. May God bless you

[@marutanray]

dan gibson will be known in history as the one who brought down islam

[@xross1237]

Dan Gibson, Al Fadi, Jay Smith, do you guys celebrate a pagan Christmas on Dec 25? Why don't you make a research about your pagan Christmas?

[@m.calebsannoh8659]

I guess you feel that Muslims going to Mecca, running around and kissing a black stone is not organism? Even during your ritualistic daily prayers, you cannot help but call Mohammad’s name. Islam is truly a monotheistic pagan religion.

[@truthfinder2575]

Can you give the details of brutal killing of Fathima Um Qirfa by Mohammad and team..She was an old lady having 13 children

[@theharvenger2832]

If Petra is Esau , where's Ishmael now located. Or who are they

[@ajrwilde14]

Ishmaelites are Northern Arabians

[@defenderoftruth3212]

How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -09-26-23

[@jesusdeity2010]

What lots of people (even pastors) don't (yet) understand. For the fall of man a perfect atoning sacrifice had to be made.... that is what God did in Christ. He paid the debt for the fall of man for us to be indwelled by His Spirit again and finally receive the divine life of the ages back, the first Adam let got of in the fall of man. That is what you see happening in Christ's first disciples. They too healed all. And yes.... that is still avaible today. The holy blood is in place, the Holy Spirit is here to give us understanding and transform us back to origin. Not to be debated about, but to be embraced and be-come. So: The Kingdom of God already came. Through Christ, in Spiritform, in those that understand. Hence the divine healing miracles we experience. God manifested in Christ to give us back the divine life mankind lost in the fall of Adam. Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after in Gen 1. The image we lost in the fall of man. The image that can be freely restored by Christ's blood and Holy Spirit working IN us. What a plan. What a solution. What a love. What a God. Jesus is amazing. It is the ultimate conclusion of the word and plan of God. God came full circle. He Himself stooped down from glory to restore us back to original created value: Christlikeness. Walking in divine healing power and unselfish love. Jesus, born of the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God. The "Son" of God, the incarnated word, God in the flesh. For three years He healed all, raised the dead, casted out demons, controlled nature, spoke pure divine truth. He said: "Follow Me. If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. The glory I have IN My Father, I give to you. It pleases the Father to give you His Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power. The same miracles i do, you will do too, because you will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am IN you. Freely I give you My Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, freely I give, freely share" Etc, etc, etc. I have experienced thousands of beautifull healing miracles through the power of Holy Spirit IN me already. Broken bones, cancers, covid, all kinds of infirmities healed in seconds. Demons manifesting and casted out by a simple "get out, in Jesus name". Jesus. De name above all names. In Him all power and wisdom is sourced and.... He calls us one with Him. God in man and man in God again. C'mon Jesus!! So.... again: God stooped down IN Christ to restore us back to Gen 1:27 were He said: "Let us make man according to our image and likeness and let them have authority.....": walk as Christ. Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after and being restored to by His atoning blood for the fall of man and indwelling Holy Spirit. You are free to receive this original divine life of the ages by Holy Spirit of Christ/God. Ask Him to guide you into truth. Read the Gospel of John and fall in love with your creator. You are not made for the fall of man and its effects, but for the image/glory of God and to walk like Christ. Holy Spirit is the guide and transforming power that will get you there. Amazing grace. A big leap in faith can be made when we start realizing we are already IN Christ, IN the last Adam. Free from the fall! Loved! Growing into awareness of our new (yet old) godly identity. Changing by Holy Spirit. The most fullfilled life ever. Paul healed all on Malta. He understood and wrote: "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë (= divine life) again". "IN Christ (the last Adam) we are co-cruisified (dead to the fall and its effects), co-raised (justified/made righteousness, holy, blameless, above reproach), co-seated (one with Him)" "The fullness of deity dwells in Christ and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of every principality and power". So.... thank you Jesus! Thank you for redeeming me from the fall of man. Thank you for your Holy Spirit that makes this new (yet old) divine life come alive in me. You are amazing! In the shadow of Peter the sick healed... He understood too and wrote: "By Gods power (Holy Spirit) and knowing Christ, we have become partakers of the divine nature and have escaped the fall of man". The divine life of the ages has been returned to us by Jesus once and for all perfect atoning sacrifice for the debt of the fall of man and His indwelling Holy Spirit in us. Jesus/God is amazing!!! Ask Him to give you revelation and change you to the way it was before the fall of man: Christlikeness. He will do so. For it is written: "the Spirit brings forth after His own kind". "I have come to give you Zoë (divine life) in abundance...."

[@tl7239]

Ummm Rus should make a documentary- will help them deal with Cheh once and for all.

[@carlomartelli8250]

I'am writing specialy to you JAY TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH I ENJOY YOUR VIDEO , BUT THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM , because we understand that you are very exited during your lecture that you forgot to speak in the way to make yourself understand more clearly . yes you SPEAK TO FAST & VERY VERY FAST, I'M A 79 Y/O AND PASSIONATE OF YOUR VIDEO AL FADI IS A REEL GENIUS WITH ALL HIS KNOWLEGETHANK MR AL FADI / BUT YOU JAY Y HAVE TOGO BACK MOST OF THE TIME TO CATCH.UP WITH YOUR SAYING . never the less bravo to all of you 2 HENRI

[@wakawaata9268]

Unbelievable, much homework is needed, thankyou.

[@Abdullah-ri7ez]

Matthew 21:11

[@fernandoriveraramirez1324]

👍🏽💯💪🙌👏👏👏

[@byip2415]

The true book is the Bible, the true man is Jesus Christ, the true place is Bethlehem , the true God is Yahweh. Scholars such a Al Fadi, Dr. Jay Smith, Dr. David Wood, Hatun Tash, Christian Prince, et al. are no doubt leading multitudes of muslims out of Islam.

[@save_sudan_and_palestine]

I believe in Allah more than Historians and these History discoveries are just are Ibtila' (test) to Muslims to see how their faith powerful, and may Allah make the history unclear 100% to test Muslims, to make difference between Allah's worshippers and History's worshippers. and Alhamdu lillah I successful in this simple test.

[@AHMADPAZILMDISA]

I dont understand why people so hard to find Islam is not a real religion but they dont say anything about Bible 😂

[@stress.intonation4546]

Search again and consider the role of Sassanid empire and its conquer of the Lakhmids and work on the role of Iranians in making the religion and also Arabic alphabet

[@gk-qf9hv]

Jay Smith tries to come out as a logical person whenever he is discussing islam.. But have you seen him preaching/discussing christianity? You will get a shock at the level of ignorance!

[@ezekielamuaalua4564]

Jay studied Islam and was born in India. Grew up in the Islamic part of India.

[@ankur7774]

GOOD WORK....👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@ConservativeArabNet]

How can someone reads 600000 saying and sift it into 2% !! Without a huge bath of scholars